Re: Power Analysis/Management Tools

2009-10-30 Thread Stef Walter
Chris Russell wrote:
  I ended up writing our own, custom pollers, Database backend, web frontend
 and rrd to generate the graphing. 

Shameless plug ... rrdbot does efficient light-weight snmp polling, and
should be very flexible for mixing with other software:

http://memberwebs.com/stef/software/rrdbot/

Cheers,

Stef




Re: Power Analysis/Management Tools

2009-10-29 Thread Ryan Langseth

Nathan Ward wrote:
I haven't used cacti in a while, but does it let you combine several RRD 
files in to one graph? If so that's useful for power stuff, because 
you're likely to want to graph an aggregate of several things across 
different devices - for example a+b power of a server, or aggregate 
power usage for one customer with multiple power feeds.


Yes this is possible, without going into it too deeply since this is 
nanog, not cacti-users.  You create the individual graphs, then create a 
new graph Graph management- Add (with host and template set to none) 
then add data sources from other graphs/hosts.  The nice thing about 
doing it this way is if you already have data being graphed, it will use 
the history to create the new graph.


We use this with our bandwidth usage graph for our individual providers 
to show the aggregate bandwidth, and some other internal graphs that 
have history going back years. And at $oldjob I used it to show rf 
usage on our towers, quite handy with equipment that automatically 
changed frequency.




RE: Power Analysis/Management Tools

2009-10-27 Thread Chris Russell

 Cacti is a cracking bit of software, but I found this difficult to
integrate and customize to what we required. 

 I ended up writing our own, custom pollers, Database backend, web frontend
and rrd to generate the graphing. 

 We were quoted something like £50k for something awfully similar..


Cheers,

Chris


-Original Message-
From: Brandon Galbraith [mailto:brandon.galbra...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 26 October 2009 20:59
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Power Analysis/Management Tools

Not to go too off-topic, but if there is a more preferred location for me to
ask, please let me know. I'm looking for recommendations on open source
packages that people are using for monitoring power utilization of their
network/server gear.

We're using Cacti currently, pulling the data from APCs via SNMP, and I
wanted to check if someone had come across a better method before I
reinvented the wheel.




Re: Power Analysis/Management Tools

2009-10-27 Thread Nathan Ward
I haven't used cacti in a while, but does it let you combine several  
RRD files in to one graph? If so that's useful for power stuff,  
because you're likely to want to graph an aggregate of several things  
across different devices - for example a+b power of a server, or  
aggregate power usage for one customer with multiple power feeds.


Note that RRD has some cool stuff that cacti can't use by default,  
including the aberrant behavior detection functionality - that's  
probably quite useful for power and environmental stuff..


On 27/10/2009, at 5:05 PM, Bill Blackford wrote:


Same. Cacti

-b

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Greg Whynott  
greg.whyn...@oicr.on.cawrote:


I'd think SNMP will be what any product uses to query APC gear,   
even their

own suite uses SNMP to collect information and receive traps.
We use cacti to graph our loads on the APC power bars and UPS gear,  
gives

you everything you need on all phases/legs,  was there something in
particular you were after?

-g


-Original Message-
From: Brandon Galbraith [mailto:brandon.galbra...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 4:59 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Power Analysis/Management Tools

Not to go too off-topic, but if there is a more preferred location  
for me

to
ask, please let me know. I'm looking for recommendations on open  
source
packages that people are using for monitoring power utilization of  
their

network/server gear.

We're using Cacti currently, pulling the data from APCs via SNMP,  
and I

wanted to check if someone had come across a better method before I
reinvented the wheel.





--
Bill Blackford
Network Engineer

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Power Analysis/Management Tools

2009-10-26 Thread Brandon Galbraith
Not to go too off-topic, but if there is a more preferred location for me to
ask, please let me know. I'm looking for recommendations on open source
packages that people are using for monitoring power utilization of their
network/server gear.

We're using Cacti currently, pulling the data from APCs via SNMP, and I
wanted to check if someone had come across a better method before I
reinvented the wheel.


Re: Power Analysis/Management Tools

2009-10-26 Thread David B. Peterson


I do the same, but with ganglia.  I've noticed that different APCs  
report power differently (after comparing APC output to BCMS output.)   
Our newer servers also report power consumption via IPMI: /usr/bin/ 
ipmitool sdr type Current.  We also graph that via ganglia.


-Dave


On Oct 26, 2009, at 1:58 PM, Brandon Galbraith wrote:

Not to go too off-topic, but if there is a more preferred location  
for me to
ask, please let me know. I'm looking for recommendations on open  
source
packages that people are using for monitoring power utilization of  
their

network/server gear.

We're using Cacti currently, pulling the data from APCs via SNMP,  
and I

wanted to check if someone had come across a better method before I
reinvented the wheel.





RE: Power Analysis/Management Tools

2009-10-26 Thread Greg Whynott
I'd think SNMP will be what any product uses to query APC gear,  even their own 
suite uses SNMP to collect information and receive traps.
We use cacti to graph our loads on the APC power bars and UPS gear, gives you 
everything you need on all phases/legs,  was there something in particular you 
were after?

-g


-Original Message-
From: Brandon Galbraith [mailto:brandon.galbra...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 4:59 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Power Analysis/Management Tools

Not to go too off-topic, but if there is a more preferred location for me to
ask, please let me know. I'm looking for recommendations on open source
packages that people are using for monitoring power utilization of their
network/server gear.

We're using Cacti currently, pulling the data from APCs via SNMP, and I
wanted to check if someone had come across a better method before I
reinvented the wheel.


Re: Power Analysis/Management Tools

2009-10-26 Thread Bill Blackford
Same. Cacti

-b

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Greg Whynott greg.whyn...@oicr.on.cawrote:

 I'd think SNMP will be what any product uses to query APC gear,  even their
 own suite uses SNMP to collect information and receive traps.
 We use cacti to graph our loads on the APC power bars and UPS gear, gives
 you everything you need on all phases/legs,  was there something in
 particular you were after?

 -g


 -Original Message-
 From: Brandon Galbraith [mailto:brandon.galbra...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 4:59 PM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Power Analysis/Management Tools

 Not to go too off-topic, but if there is a more preferred location for me
 to
 ask, please let me know. I'm looking for recommendations on open source
 packages that people are using for monitoring power utilization of their
 network/server gear.

 We're using Cacti currently, pulling the data from APCs via SNMP, and I
 wanted to check if someone had come across a better method before I
 reinvented the wheel.




-- 
Bill Blackford
Network Engineer