RE: Question about experiences with BGP remote-AS

2017-05-05 Thread Tony Wicks
JunOS has three different modes for Virtual routers depending on your
situation requirements. I would suggest that something in the QFX or ACX
range will be able to replicate what you are after. Otherwise the entry
level MX will certainly do the job for a little more outlay. 

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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of LF OD
Sent: Saturday, 6 May 2017 4:56 AM
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Subject: Question about experiences with BGP remote-AS

We have a number of small routers in co-lo sites that peer with B2B
partners. As more of our partners move to cloud, we are considering a
consolidation effort and putting all of  our peering routers in a cloud
exchange site on a single HA pair of routers. Now, each existing B2B peering
router uses a unique private ASN to EBGP peer with partners and they, in
turn, EBGP peer with our extranet perimeter ASNs for security vetting and
other stuff.


We looked for a medium-density router (or L3-switch) that can replace
multiple small routers (b2b-only, no internet), but we need to retain all of
our existing ASNs and peerings. As it turns out, there are many routers that
can do VRFs but you cannot put a unique ASN on each VRF so replicating the
old environment isn't quite that straightforward. The BGP remote-as looks to
be a possible alternative solution, but we've never used it in production
and we are unsure of the caveats. Taken at face value, it looks like we can
mimic the multi-router/unique-ASN environment we have today on a single
platform. However, networking is rarely as smooth as that so I'm asking some
of the BGP gurus... what are the pros/cons of doing using remote-as? If
anyone here uses it extensively, we could really use some feedback if you
run into challenges or hidden surprises that we wouldn't normally think of
beforehand.


Thanks in advance!


LFOD



Re: Question about experiences with BGP remote-AS

2017-05-05 Thread Radu-Adrian Feurdean
On Fri, May 5, 2017, at 18:55, LF OD wrote:

> of our existing ASNs and peerings. As it turns out, there are many
> routers that can do VRFs but you cannot put a unique ASN on each VRF so
> replicating the old environment isn't quite that straightforward. The BGP
> remote-as looks to be a possible alternative solution, but we've never

You mean *local-as*, right ?

Otherwise, there was a vendor that allowed different ASN per VRF but
only with non-MPLS vrfs, and that product line is both end-of-sale and
major overkill for your set-up.


Re: Question about experiences with BGP remote-AS

2017-05-05 Thread Tyler Conrad
Neighbor x.x.x.x local-as {whateverasn} no-prepend replace-as

On Friday, May 5, 2017, LF OD  wrote:

> We have a number of small routers in co-lo sites that peer with B2B
> partners. As more of our partners move to cloud, we are considering a
> consolidation effort and putting all of  our peering routers in a cloud
> exchange site on a single HA pair of routers. Now, each existing B2B
> peering router uses a unique private ASN to EBGP peer with partners and
> they, in turn, EBGP peer with our extranet perimeter ASNs for security
> vetting and other stuff.
>
>
> We looked for a medium-density router (or L3-switch) that can replace
> multiple small routers (b2b-only, no internet), but we need to retain all
> of our existing ASNs and peerings. As it turns out, there are many routers
> that can do VRFs but you cannot put a unique ASN on each VRF so replicating
> the old environment isn't quite that straightforward. The BGP remote-as
> looks to be a possible alternative solution, but we've never used it in
> production and we are unsure of the caveats. Taken at face value, it looks
> like we can mimic the multi-router/unique-ASN environment we have today on
> a single platform. However, networking is rarely as smooth as that so I'm
> asking some of the BGP gurus... what are the pros/cons of doing using
> remote-as? If anyone here uses it extensively, we could really use some
> feedback if you run into challenges or hidden surprises that we wouldn't
> normally think of beforehand.
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
> LFOD
>


Question about experiences with BGP remote-AS

2017-05-05 Thread LF OD
We have a number of small routers in co-lo sites that peer with B2B partners. 
As more of our partners move to cloud, we are considering a consolidation 
effort and putting all of  our peering routers in a cloud exchange site on a 
single HA pair of routers. Now, each existing B2B peering router uses a unique 
private ASN to EBGP peer with partners and they, in turn, EBGP peer with our 
extranet perimeter ASNs for security vetting and other stuff.


We looked for a medium-density router (or L3-switch) that can replace multiple 
small routers (b2b-only, no internet), but we need to retain all of our 
existing ASNs and peerings. As it turns out, there are many routers that can do 
VRFs but you cannot put a unique ASN on each VRF so replicating the old 
environment isn't quite that straightforward. The BGP remote-as looks to be a 
possible alternative solution, but we've never used it in production and we are 
unsure of the caveats. Taken at face value, it looks like we can mimic the 
multi-router/unique-ASN environment we have today on a single platform. 
However, networking is rarely as smooth as that so I'm asking some of the BGP 
gurus... what are the pros/cons of doing using remote-as? If anyone here uses 
it extensively, we could really use some feedback if you run into challenges or 
hidden surprises that we wouldn't normally think of beforehand.


Thanks in advance!


LFOD