Question on Route-Set for Arin DB

2014-02-13 Thread Joseph Jenkins
So the Routing Database is something that I am just learning about and trying 
to find out if I need to create a Route-set or not.  I just created my MNTNER 
ID and I also created the Route Objects for my two /24s that were given to my 
by my carriers.  Do I need a route-set or aut-num object created?

Still trying to get my head wrapped around the need for this.  I read through 
this tutorial:

http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog51/presentations/Sunday/NANOG51.Talk34.NANOG51%20IRR%20Tutorial.pdf

and didn't get a really clear idea as to if I needed these.

TIA,

Joe


Re: Question on Route-Set for Arin DB

2014-02-13 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I am a newbie at it as well, having said that.. the short answer to your 
question is  YES to aut-num and NO to  route-set ..
but the longer answer will always be based on how you are using the IRR

If you are doing this for the most common, basic reason, that one of your 
upstream is requiring it.. then you may have to ask them.
 (in most cases aut-num for your ASN and route object for your routes is needed 
at minimum)

BTW, I am curious, if you did not create an aut-num object, what did you enter 
as origin: for your route objects ?


Regards

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
 From: Joseph Jenkins j...@breathe-underwater.com
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 5:28:39 PM
 Subject: Question on Route-Set for Arin DB
 
 So the Routing Database is something that I am just learning about and trying
 to find out if I need to create a Route-set or not.  I just created my
 MNTNER ID and I also created the Route Objects for my two /24s that were
 given to my by my carriers.  Do I need a route-set or aut-num object
 created?
 
 Still trying to get my head wrapped around the need for this.  I read through
 this tutorial:
 
 http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog51/presentations/Sunday/NANOG51.Talk34.NANOG51%20IRR%20Tutorial.pdf
 
 and didn't get a really clear idea as to if I needed these.
 
 TIA,
 
 Joe
 



Re: Question on Route-Set for Arin DB

2014-02-13 Thread Tony Tauber
The origin stands alone; no aut-num needed in many cases.

The way many providers use the IRR info is to take the adjacent ASN and do
a reverse index lookup on the origin field.
That is, for AS1234, what are all the route and route6 objects with that as
an origin.
If you need something more complicated, you can use an aut-num object to
say that an as-set, route-set or combinations of these ought to be folded
in when creating the filters.

Tony


On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.netwrote:

 I am a newbie at it as well, having said that.. the short answer to your
 question is  YES to aut-num and NO to  route-set ..
 but the longer answer will always be based on how you are using the IRR

 If you are doing this for the most common, basic reason, that one of your
 upstream is requiring it.. then you may have to ask them.
  (in most cases aut-num for your ASN and route object for your routes is
 needed at minimum)

 BTW, I am curious, if you did not create an aut-num object, what did you
 enter as origin: for your route objects ?


 Regards

 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 - Original Message -
  From: Joseph Jenkins j...@breathe-underwater.com
  To: nanog@nanog.org
  Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 5:28:39 PM
  Subject: Question on Route-Set for Arin DB
 
  So the Routing Database is something that I am just learning about and
 trying
  to find out if I need to create a Route-set or not.  I just created my
  MNTNER ID and I also created the Route Objects for my two /24s that were
  given to my by my carriers.  Do I need a route-set or aut-num object
  created?
 
  Still trying to get my head wrapped around the need for this.  I read
 through
  this tutorial:
 
 
 http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog51/presentations/Sunday/NANOG51.Talk34.NANOG51%20IRR%20Tutorial.pdf
 
  and didn't get a really clear idea as to if I needed these.
 
  TIA,
 
  Joe
 




Re: Question on Route-Set for Arin DB

2014-02-13 Thread Randy Bush
 The way many providers use the IRR info is to take the adjacent ASN and do
 a reverse index lookup on the origin field.
 That is, for AS1234, what are all the route and route6 objects with that as
 an origin.
 If you need something more complicated, you can use an aut-num object to
 say that an as-set, route-set or combinations of these ought to be folded
 in when creating the filters.

fwiw, i build filters by running peval() over their as-set

randy