Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:08:02 -0700 From: Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com Not quite accurate and a bit too dramatic on the panic side but the approach is interesting to put C-Level folks in the hot seat about v6. Would be interesting also to see if folks here get asked by C-Level folks bout IPv6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYffYT2y-Iw Cute. Silly, but cute. I think I see Tony Hain's hand somewhere in this. Tony??? -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: ober...@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751
Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video
On Oct 28, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Zaid Ali wrote: Not quite accurate and a bit too dramatic on the panic side but the approach is interesting to put C-Level folks in the hot seat about v6. Would be interesting also to see if folks here get asked by C-Level folks bout IPv6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYffYT2y-Iw Zaid ROFLMAO... Yeah, it's overstated and ridiculous, but, I especially laughed at the follow-on video for ignore the benefits of IPv6. Owen
Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video
In a message written on Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 01:08:02PM -0700, Zaid Ali wrote: Not quite accurate and a bit too dramatic on the panic side but the approach is interesting to put C-Level folks in the hot seat about v6. Would be interesting also to see if folks here get asked by C-Level folks bout IPv6. If you have been trying to get your C-Level folks to understand the problem for months or years and they won't listen, yet they come to you after watching this Cisco video then you should go visit www.monster.com, or www.careerbuilder.com. -- Leo Bicknell - bickn...@ufp.org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ pgpcCxUqbjYkE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video
lol... Is this video by cisco? what a funny way to mis-inform non-tech folks. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com wrote: Not quite accurate and a bit too dramatic on the panic side but the approach is interesting to put C-Level folks in the hot seat about v6. Would be interesting also to see if folks here get asked by C-Level folks bout IPv6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYffYT2y-Iw Zaid -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video
On 10/28/10 2:11 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: If you have been trying to get your C-Level folks to understand the problem for months or years and they won't listen, yet they come to you after watching this Cisco video then you should go visit www.monster.com, or www.careerbuilder.com. I don't have this problem thankfully but I know many do and it is probably the major reason why v6 adoption is slow. Many networks needs money invested to upgrade for v6 readiness. The message is do it now before the costs dramatically increase. The problem with C-level folks is not they don't want to do it but there is no financial incentive for them to do it, if there is no direct benefit to drive revenue then why put the money? The barrier for v6 is not technical it is purely financial, some understand the economics and some don't. Finance people usually think that the longer you can put off expenses the better it looks for your balance sheet. This is really the crux of the problem. Zaid
Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video
On 10/28/10 2:24 PM, Beavis pfu...@gmail.com wrote: lol... Is this video by cisco? what a funny way to mis-inform non-tech folks. Yes it is. When do marketing people get it right? I actually think the fun hasn't begun yet. Wait till CNN/FOX etc makes this a big issue and claim the internet is going to come to an end then folks with clue will have to go on TV and calm the hysteria. Zaid
RE: Interesting IPv6 viral video
No idea where this came from, and no I didn't have any part in it. If I had, the rental rates on addresses would have been much more in the range of extortion... ;) -Original Message- From: Kevin Oberman [mailto:ober...@es.net] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:59 PM To: Zaid Ali Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:08:02 -0700 From: Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com Not quite accurate and a bit too dramatic on the panic side but the approach is interesting to put C-Level folks in the hot seat about v6. Would be interesting also to see if folks here get asked by C-Level folks bout IPv6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYffYT2y-Iw Cute. Silly, but cute. I think I see Tony Hain's hand somewhere in this. Tony??? -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: ober...@es.netPhone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751
Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video
On 10/28/10 2:32 PM, Zaid Ali wrote: On 10/28/10 2:24 PM, Beavis pfu...@gmail.com wrote: lol... Is this video by cisco? what a funny way to mis-inform non-tech folks. Yes it is. When do marketing people get it right? I actually think the fun hasn't begun yet. Wait till CNN/FOX etc makes this a big issue and claim the internet is going to come to an end then folks with clue will have to go on TV and calm the hysteria. Like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAUyaELfwBo -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV
Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video
On 10/28/2010 4:32 PM, Zaid Ali wrote: Yes it is. When do marketing people get it right? I actually think the fun hasn't begun yet. Wait till CNN/FOX etc makes this a big issue and claim the internet is going to come to an end then folks with clue will have to go on TV and calm the hysteria. Why would someone with clue want to calm the hysteria? I've had hysterical moments dealing with v6 transitions. Come to and end? Nah. Be a really rough ride? Unless things change, probably. Jack
Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video
haha... definitely like this!!! :D On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Jay Hennigan j...@west.net wrote: On 10/28/10 2:32 PM, Zaid Ali wrote: On 10/28/10 2:24 PM, Beavis pfu...@gmail.com wrote: lol... Is this video by cisco? what a funny way to mis-inform non-tech folks. Yes it is. When do marketing people get it right? I actually think the fun hasn't begun yet. Wait till CNN/FOX etc makes this a big issue and claim the internet is going to come to an end then folks with clue will have to go on TV and calm the hysteria. Like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAUyaELfwBo -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video
On Oct 28, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Jack Bates wrote: On 10/28/2010 4:32 PM, Zaid Ali wrote: Yes it is. When do marketing people get it right? I actually think the fun hasn't begun yet. Wait till CNN/FOX etc makes this a big issue and claim the internet is going to come to an end then folks with clue will have to go on TV and calm the hysteria. Why would someone with clue want to calm the hysteria? I've had hysterical moments dealing with v6 transitions. Come to and end? Nah. Be a really rough ride? Unless things change, probably. Wait, if there's no transition to ipv6, the internet will end? And all our piracy and information control problems will end with it? That's just grand! Quick, pass a law against ipv6 adoption! Mandatory death penalty! Why didn't anyone think of this sooner? (NOW who says you can't put the genie back in the bottle? Stupid eggheads! :)
Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video
On 10/28/10 4:06 PM, Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com wrote: --- z...@zaidali.com wrote: Wait till CNN/FOX etc makes this a big issue and claim the internet is going to come to an end - http://www.argee.net/chickenlittleagenda/CLA%2072.jpg scott We have all seen the trend set by the Cyberwar news reports. Zaid
Re: Interesting IPv6 viral video
Wait till CNN/FOX etc makes this a big issue and claim the internet is going to come to an end press frenzy in the '93 '94 era was what forced the ipv6 design, to solve the problem. and it did, the press shut up. problem is it did not solve the needed technical problems. but that is only pain for us, who cares? randy
