Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2020-01-03 Thread Owen DeLong
I’ve done it many times. I’ve got my own resources and I’ve also helped many 
clients through the process.

It really isn’t difficult. It can be a little tedious and a little 
time-consuming, especially if you’re needing to provide documentation
for a significant allocation (e.g. an IPv6 /24), but it’s still quite do-able.

Owen


> On Dec 28, 2019, at 10:37 , Kaiser, Erich  wrote:
> 
> Yes been doing it for years but seems to be more in depth now from latest 
> documentation I received, it has never been an easy process IMO.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 12:22 PM Pennington, Scott 
> mailto:scott.penning...@cinbell.com>> wrote:
> This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to legitimately 
> transfer even from an auction.
> 
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
> From: NANOG mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org>> on 
> behalf of Kaiser, Erich mailto:er...@gotfusion.net>>
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM
> To: Darin Steffl mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>>
> Cc: North American Network Operators' Group  <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
> Subject: Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
>  
> They have changed their policies from what I can tell.  It was easier to get 
> IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now that 
> they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify 
> everything. 
> 
> 
> Erich Kaiser
> The Fusion Network
> er...@gotfusion.net <mailto:er...@gotfusion.net>
> Office: 815-570-3101
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl  <mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote:
> In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.
> 
> ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is not 
> difficult. I've never had to call them before. 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen  <mailto:se...@rollernet.us>> wrote:
> On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
> > Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay That's 
> > why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me 
> > through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this 
> > process.
> 
> 
> Ask ARIN. They will help you.



Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2020-01-03 Thread Owen DeLong



> On Dec 28, 2019, at 06:29 , Matt Hoppes  
> wrote:
> 
> Request it. We just got a /22 direct from ARIN yesterday. 
> 
> There is currently a supply of IPs available from ARIN. 
> 
> Otherwise your option is to buy at auction at a high expense. 

For a /24, there’s also another option… Especially if you are doing a 
greenfield deployment…

Deploy IPv6. If you deploy IPv6, you can get a /24 of IPv4 space from ARIN 
under NRPM section 4.10 to facilitate your IPv6 deployment.

Owen

> 
>> On Dec 28, 2019, at 8:33 AM, Terrance Devor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I know we are very late in the game however, I need the community's help. As 
>> our company continues to grow and establish long term relationships and 
>> bringing additional customers onto our infrastructure, we find ourselves 
>> desperately needing to reserve a /24.
>> 
>> I understand that IPv4 addresses are getting depleted as of 2015, can 
>> someone on here please guide us on how to best secure /24?
>> 
>> Thank You in Advance,
>> 
>> Terrance 



Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-30 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 2:33 PM Terrance Devor  wrote:

> That is the part I am a little confused about. Justification
>

One major advantage of working through a broker / auctioneer is that they
can help you with this. Documentation and justification is a hidden cost.
It's not hard but it is arcane. The broker can help you phrase the
explanation of your intended use in a way that doesn't cause you difficulty
when ARIN staff analyzes it for compliance with the many policies. And help
you make inexpensive changes and additions which will align your intended
use with those policies. All of which you really want to do before the
first time you tell ARIN staff what you intend to do with the addresses.
Cause it's harder to turn a no into a yes than to get your ducks in a row
so that it's a yes the first time.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-30 Thread Josh Luthman
I did my first one back in 2015 I think.  It's really not that difficult.
Give me a call if you would like a general idea on what needs to be done.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 2:53 PM Terrance Devor  wrote:

> Thank you Chris, and I really appreciate the information I have received
> so far.
>
> Apologies everyone for the noise.
>
> Terrance
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 2:47 PM Christopher Morrow <
> morrowc.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm going to bet that:
>>   1) the docs at ARIN talk about all you need to do to get this mission
>> accomplished
>>   2) questions to the hostmaster/registration-services-desk will also get
>> all of these questions answered
>>   3) taking up 10k+ people's time on what is solved with the above 2
>> things isn't really helpful anymore
>>
>> call the registration services desk, Mr Sweating already provided the
>> contact details.
>> good luck fellow traveler.
>> -chris
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 2:41 PM Pennington, Scott <
>> scott.penning...@cinbell.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Terrance.   I don't represent ARIN in any way, but typically proof of
>>> dual BGP homing with 2 or more upstreams is adequate for my customers.
>>>
>>> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* Terrance Devor 
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 2:33:09 PM
>>> *To:* Pennington, Scott 
>>> *Cc:* Kaiser, Erich ; Darin Steffl <
>>> darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>; North American Network Operators' Group <
>>> nanog@nanog.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
>>>
>>> Hello Scott,
>>>
>>> That is the part I am a little confused about. Justification? We are
>>> cloud based solution/service providers with ISP reseller accounts and
>>> increased amount of long term relationships who need dedicated IP
>>> addresses. Securing a /24 is our entry point and we will require more as we
>>> move forward. What type of justifications will they need?
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Terrance
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 1:23 PM Pennington, Scott <
>>> scott.penning...@cinbell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to
>>> legitimately transfer even from an auction.
>>>
>>> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* NANOG  on behalf of Kaiser, Erich <
>>> er...@gotfusion.net>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM
>>> *To:* Darin Steffl 
>>> *Cc:* North American Network Operators' Group 
>>> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
>>>
>>> They have changed their policies from what I can tell.  It was easier to
>>> get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now
>>> that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify
>>> everything.
>>>
>>>
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>> The Fusion Network
>>> er...@gotfusion.net
>>> Office: 815-570-3101
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.
>>>
>>> ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It
>>> is not difficult. I've never had to call them before.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
>>> > Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay That's
>>> > why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me
>>> > through this with a few links? This is my first time going
>>> through this
>>> > process.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ask ARIN. They will help you.
>>>
>>>


RE: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-30 Thread rylandkremeier
Could go through Level3, or CenturyLink now I guess. We received a /24 a few 
weeks ago from CenturyLink without much hassle. Not sure what you're at 
network-wise so there may be a step in-between but it's something to look into. 
 Original message From: Terrance Devor  
Date: 12/28/19  7:35 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Requesting 
/24 from ARIN Hello Everyone,I know we are very late in the game however, I 
need the community's help. As our company continues to grow and establish long 
term relationships and bringing additional customers onto our infrastructure, 
we find ourselves desperately needing to reserve a /24.I understand that IPv4 
addresses are getting depleted as of 2015, can someone on here please guide us 
on how to best secure /24?Thank You in Advance,Terrance 


Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-30 Thread Jorge Santiago
Go to ARIN and request the block. We just received ours after getting on
their waiting list. Took about 6 months, though.

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 9:57 AM Terrance Devor  wrote:

> Thank You Matt! Can we please connect directly off the list to limit the
> noise? I would really appreciate a setup-by-step.
>
> Best,
>
> Terrance
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 9:29 AM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> Request it. We just got a /22 direct from ARIN yesterday.
>>
>> There is currently a supply of IPs available from ARIN.
>>
>> Otherwise your option is to buy at auction at a high expense.
>>
>> > On Dec 28, 2019, at 8:33 AM, Terrance Devor 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello Everyone,
>> >
>> > I know we are very late in the game however, I need the community's
>> help. As our company continues to grow and establish long term
>> relationships and bringing additional customers onto our infrastructure, we
>> find ourselves desperately needing to reserve a /24.
>> >
>> > I understand that IPv4 addresses are getting depleted as of 2015, can
>> someone on here please guide us on how to best secure /24?
>> >
>> > Thank You in Advance,
>> >
>> > Terrance
>>
>


Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Terrance Devor
Thank you Chris, and I really appreciate the information I have received so
far.

Apologies everyone for the noise.

Terrance

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 2:47 PM Christopher Morrow 
wrote:

> I'm going to bet that:
>   1) the docs at ARIN talk about all you need to do to get this mission
> accomplished
>   2) questions to the hostmaster/registration-services-desk will also get
> all of these questions answered
>   3) taking up 10k+ people's time on what is solved with the above 2
> things isn't really helpful anymore
>
> call the registration services desk, Mr Sweating already provided the
> contact details.
> good luck fellow traveler.
> -chris
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 2:41 PM Pennington, Scott <
> scott.penning...@cinbell.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Terrance.   I don't represent ARIN in any way, but typically proof of
>> dual BGP homing with 2 or more upstreams is adequate for my customers.
>>
>> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Terrance Devor 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 2:33:09 PM
>> *To:* Pennington, Scott 
>> *Cc:* Kaiser, Erich ; Darin Steffl <
>> darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>; North American Network Operators' Group <
>> nanog@nanog.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
>>
>> Hello Scott,
>>
>> That is the part I am a little confused about. Justification? We are
>> cloud based solution/service providers with ISP reseller accounts and
>> increased amount of long term relationships who need dedicated IP
>> addresses. Securing a /24 is our entry point and we will require more as we
>> move forward. What type of justifications will they need?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Terrance
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 1:23 PM Pennington, Scott <
>> scott.penning...@cinbell.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to
>> legitimately transfer even from an auction.
>>
>> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* NANOG  on behalf of Kaiser, Erich <
>> er...@gotfusion.net>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM
>> *To:* Darin Steffl 
>> *Cc:* North American Network Operators' Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
>>
>> They have changed their policies from what I can tell.  It was easier to
>> get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now
>> that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify
>> everything.
>>
>>
>> Erich Kaiser
>> The Fusion Network
>> er...@gotfusion.net
>> Office: 815-570-3101
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl 
>> wrote:
>>
>> In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.
>>
>> ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is
>> not difficult. I've never had to call them before.
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen  wrote:
>>
>> On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
>> > Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay That's
>> > why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me
>> > through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this
>> > process.
>>
>>
>> Ask ARIN. They will help you.
>>
>>


Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Christopher Morrow
I'm going to bet that:
  1) the docs at ARIN talk about all you need to do to get this mission
accomplished
  2) questions to the hostmaster/registration-services-desk will also get
all of these questions answered
  3) taking up 10k+ people's time on what is solved with the above 2 things
isn't really helpful anymore

call the registration services desk, Mr Sweating already provided the
contact details.
good luck fellow traveler.
-chris

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 2:41 PM Pennington, Scott <
scott.penning...@cinbell.com> wrote:

> Hi Terrance.   I don't represent ARIN in any way, but typically proof of
> dual BGP homing with 2 or more upstreams is adequate for my customers.
>
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>
> --
> *From:* Terrance Devor 
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 2:33:09 PM
> *To:* Pennington, Scott 
> *Cc:* Kaiser, Erich ; Darin Steffl <
> darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>; North American Network Operators' Group <
> nanog@nanog.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
>
> Hello Scott,
>
> That is the part I am a little confused about. Justification? We are cloud
> based solution/service providers with ISP reseller accounts and increased
> amount of long term relationships who need dedicated IP addresses. Securing
> a /24 is our entry point and we will require more as we move forward. What
> type of justifications will they need?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Terrance
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 1:23 PM Pennington, Scott <
> scott.penning...@cinbell.com> wrote:
>
> This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to
> legitimately transfer even from an auction.
>
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>
> --
> *From:* NANOG  on behalf of Kaiser, Erich <
> er...@gotfusion.net>
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM
> *To:* Darin Steffl 
> *Cc:* North American Network Operators' Group 
> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
>
> They have changed their policies from what I can tell.  It was easier to
> get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now
> that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify
> everything.
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
> The Fusion Network
> er...@gotfusion.net
> Office: 815-570-3101
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl 
> wrote:
>
> In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.
>
> ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is
> not difficult. I've never had to call them before.
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen  wrote:
>
> On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
> > Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay That's
> > why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me
> > through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this
> > process.
>
>
> Ask ARIN. They will help you.
>
>


Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Pennington, Scott
Hi Terrance.   I don't represent ARIN in any way, but typically proof of dual 
BGP homing with 2 or more upstreams is adequate for my customers.

Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>


From: Terrance Devor 
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 2:33:09 PM
To: Pennington, Scott 
Cc: Kaiser, Erich ; Darin Steffl 
; North American Network Operators' Group 

Subject: Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

Hello Scott,

That is the part I am a little confused about. Justification? We are cloud 
based solution/service providers with ISP reseller accounts and increased 
amount of long term relationships who need dedicated IP addresses. Securing a 
/24 is our entry point and we will require more as we move forward. What type 
of justifications will they need?

Kind Regards,

Terrance

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 1:23 PM Pennington, Scott 
mailto:scott.penning...@cinbell.com>> wrote:
This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to legitimately 
transfer even from an auction.

Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>


From: NANOG mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org>> on behalf 
of Kaiser, Erich mailto:er...@gotfusion.net>>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM
To: Darin Steffl mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group 
mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
Subject: Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

They have changed their policies from what I can tell.  It was easier to get 
IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now that they 
have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify everything.


Erich Kaiser
The Fusion Network
er...@gotfusion.net<mailto:er...@gotfusion.net>
Office: 815-570-3101

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On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl 
mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote:
In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.

ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is not 
difficult. I've never had to call them before.

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen 
mailto:se...@rollernet.us>> wrote:
On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
> Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay That's
> why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me
> through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this
> process.


Ask ARIN. They will help you.


Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Terrance Devor
Hello Scott,

That is the part I am a little confused about. Justification? We are cloud
based solution/service providers with ISP reseller accounts and increased
amount of long term relationships who need dedicated IP addresses. Securing
a /24 is our entry point and we will require more as we move forward. What
type of justifications will they need?

Kind Regards,

Terrance

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 1:23 PM Pennington, Scott <
scott.penning...@cinbell.com> wrote:

> This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to
> legitimately transfer even from an auction.
>
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>
> --
> *From:* NANOG  on behalf of Kaiser, Erich <
> er...@gotfusion.net>
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM
> *To:* Darin Steffl 
> *Cc:* North American Network Operators' Group 
> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
>
> They have changed their policies from what I can tell.  It was easier to
> get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now
> that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify
> everything.
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
> The Fusion Network
> er...@gotfusion.net
> Office: 815-570-3101
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl 
> wrote:
>
> In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.
>
> ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is
> not difficult. I've never had to call them before.
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen  wrote:
>
> On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
> > Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay That's
> > why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me
> > through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this
> > process.
>
>
> Ask ARIN. They will help you.
>
>


Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Kaiser, Erich
I think I am feeling sour about having to do the entire process all over
again LOL.  Just looked at doc and it is very similar to old required info.



On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 12:37 PM Kaiser, Erich  wrote:

> Yes been doing it for years but seems to be more in depth now from latest
> documentation I received, it has never been an easy process IMO.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 12:22 PM Pennington, Scott <
> scott.penning...@cinbell.com> wrote:
>
>> This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to
>> legitimately transfer even from an auction.
>>
>> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* NANOG  on behalf of Kaiser, Erich <
>> er...@gotfusion.net>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM
>> *To:* Darin Steffl 
>> *Cc:* North American Network Operators' Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
>>
>> They have changed their policies from what I can tell.  It was easier to
>> get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now
>> that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify
>> everything.
>>
>>
>> Erich Kaiser
>> The Fusion Network
>> er...@gotfusion.net
>> Office: 815-570-3101
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl 
>> wrote:
>>
>> In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.
>>
>> ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is
>> not difficult. I've never had to call them before.
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen  wrote:
>>
>> On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
>> > Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay That's
>> > why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me
>> > through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this
>> > process.
>>
>>
>> Ask ARIN. They will help you.
>>
>>


Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Darin Steffl
I feel it's the same now as it was 5 years ago. Same spreadsheet and
justification as years ago. I just got a /22 yesterday and it was no
different from an ARIN allocation to a purchase and transfer.

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 12:37 PM Kaiser, Erich  wrote:

> Yes been doing it for years but seems to be more in depth now from latest
> documentation I received, it has never been an easy process IMO.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 12:22 PM Pennington, Scott <
> scott.penning...@cinbell.com> wrote:
>
>> This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to
>> legitimately transfer even from an auction.
>>
>> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* NANOG  on behalf of Kaiser, Erich <
>> er...@gotfusion.net>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM
>> *To:* Darin Steffl 
>> *Cc:* North American Network Operators' Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
>>
>> They have changed their policies from what I can tell.  It was easier to
>> get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now
>> that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify
>> everything.
>>
>>
>> Erich Kaiser
>> The Fusion Network
>> er...@gotfusion.net
>> Office: 815-570-3101
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl 
>> wrote:
>>
>> In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.
>>
>> ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is
>> not difficult. I've never had to call them before.
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen  wrote:
>>
>> On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
>> > Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay That's
>> > why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me
>> > through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this
>> > process.
>>
>>
>> Ask ARIN. They will help you.
>>
>>


Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Kaiser, Erich
Yes been doing it for years but seems to be more in depth now from latest
documentation I received, it has never been an easy process IMO.



On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 12:22 PM Pennington, Scott <
scott.penning...@cinbell.com> wrote:

> This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to
> legitimately transfer even from an auction.
>
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>
> --
> *From:* NANOG  on behalf of Kaiser, Erich <
> er...@gotfusion.net>
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM
> *To:* Darin Steffl 
> *Cc:* North American Network Operators' Group 
> *Subject:* Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN
>
> They have changed their policies from what I can tell.  It was easier to
> get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now
> that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify
> everything.
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
> The Fusion Network
> er...@gotfusion.net
> Office: 815-570-3101
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl 
> wrote:
>
> In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.
>
> ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is
> not difficult. I've never had to call them before.
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen  wrote:
>
> On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
> > Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay That's
> > why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me
> > through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this
> > process.
>
>
> Ask ARIN. They will help you.
>
>


Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Pennington, Scott
This is not a change. You've always had to justify in order to legitimately 
transfer even from an auction.

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From: NANOG  on behalf of Kaiser, Erich 

Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 1:13:53 PM
To: Darin Steffl 
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group 
Subject: Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

They have changed their policies from what I can tell.  It was easier to get 
IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now that they 
have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify everything.


Erich Kaiser
The Fusion Network
er...@gotfusion.net<mailto:er...@gotfusion.net>
Office: 815-570-3101

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On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl 
mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote:
In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.

ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is not 
difficult. I've never had to call them before.

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen 
mailto:se...@rollernet.us>> wrote:
On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
> Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay That's
> why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me
> through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this
> process.


Ask ARIN. They will help you.


Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Kaiser, Erich
They have changed their policies from what I can tell.  It was easier to
get IPs when there were none and you were buying from an auction but now
that they have them they want you to fill out a bunch of info and recertify
everything.


Erich Kaiser
The Fusion Network
er...@gotfusion.net
Office: 815-570-3101





On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Darin Steffl 
wrote:

> In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.
>
> ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is
> not difficult. I've never had to call them before.
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen  wrote:
>
>> On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
>> > Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay That's
>> > why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me
>> > through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this
>> > process.
>>
>>
>> Ask ARIN. They will help you.
>>
>


Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Darin Steffl
In the most polite manner possible, RTFM.

ARIN has all the info on their website on how to request resources. It is
not difficult. I've never had to call them before.

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 9:53 AM Seth Mattinen  wrote:

> On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
> > Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay That's
> > why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me
> > through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this
> > process.
>
>
> Ask ARIN. They will help you.
>


Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Seth Mattinen

On 12/28/19 7:12 AM, Terrance Devor wrote:
Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay That's 
why auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me 
through this with a few links? This is my first time going through this 
process.



Ask ARIN. They will help you.


Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread John Sweeting
Hi Terrence

Your best bet and for the most accurate information is to call the ARIN help 
desk first thing Monday morning and talk with one of our awesome Analysts. Wait 
time is usually less than a minute.

ARIN's Registration Services Help Desk is open and available by phone at 
+1.703.227.0660, Monday through Friday, 7:00 AM to 7:00 PM 
Eastern Time.

You may also visit arin.net and review the section "Request IP Addresses & ASNs"

Thanks
John


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On Dec 28, 2019, at 8:34 AM, Terrance Devor  wrote:

?
Hello Everyone,

I know we are very late in the game however, I need the community's help. As 
our company continues to grow and establish long term relationships and 
bringing additional customers onto our infrastructure, we find ourselves 
desperately needing to reserve a /24.

I understand that IPv4 addresses are getting depleted as of 2015, can someone 
on here please guide us on how to best secure /24?

Thank You in Advance,

Terrance


Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Terrance Devor
Thank You Jorge! What is important for us is not to overpay That's why
auctions are really a last resort. Can someone please walk me through this
with a few links? This is my first time going through this process.

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 10:04 AM Jorge Santiago 
wrote:

> Go to ARIN and request the block. We just received ours after getting on
> their waiting list. Took about 6 months, though.
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 9:57 AM Terrance Devor 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank You Matt! Can we please connect directly off the list to limit the
>> noise? I would really appreciate a setup-by-step.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Terrance
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 9:29 AM Matt Hoppes <
>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Request it. We just got a /22 direct from ARIN yesterday.
>>>
>>> There is currently a supply of IPs available from ARIN.
>>>
>>> Otherwise your option is to buy at auction at a high expense.
>>>
>>> > On Dec 28, 2019, at 8:33 AM, Terrance Devor 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello Everyone,
>>> >
>>> > I know we are very late in the game however, I need the community's
>>> help. As our company continues to grow and establish long term
>>> relationships and bringing additional customers onto our infrastructure, we
>>> find ourselves desperately needing to reserve a /24.
>>> >
>>> > I understand that IPv4 addresses are getting depleted as of 2015, can
>>> someone on here please guide us on how to best secure /24?
>>> >
>>> > Thank You in Advance,
>>> >
>>> > Terrance
>>>
>>


Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Terrance Devor
Thank You Matt! Can we please connect directly off the list to limit the
noise? I would really appreciate a setup-by-step.

Best,

Terrance

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 9:29 AM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Request it. We just got a /22 direct from ARIN yesterday.
>
> There is currently a supply of IPs available from ARIN.
>
> Otherwise your option is to buy at auction at a high expense.
>
> > On Dec 28, 2019, at 8:33 AM, Terrance Devor  wrote:
> >
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > I know we are very late in the game however, I need the community's
> help. As our company continues to grow and establish long term
> relationships and bringing additional customers onto our infrastructure, we
> find ourselves desperately needing to reserve a /24.
> >
> > I understand that IPv4 addresses are getting depleted as of 2015, can
> someone on here please guide us on how to best secure /24?
> >
> > Thank You in Advance,
> >
> > Terrance
>


Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Warren Kumari
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 8:34 AM Terrance Devor  wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I know we are very late in the game however, I need the community's help.
> As our company continues to grow and establish long term relationships and
> bringing additional customers onto our infrastructure, we find ourselves
> desperately needing to reserve a /24.
>
> I understand that IPv4 addresses are getting depleted as of 2015, can
> someone on here please guide us on how to best secure /24?
>

Buying this on the auction market is probably the best (only realistic?)
way — e.g:
https://auctions.ipv4.global/

W


> Thank You in Advance,
>
> Terrance
>
-- 
I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in
the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of
pants.
   ---maf


Re: Requesting /24 from ARIN

2019-12-28 Thread Matt Hoppes
Request it. We just got a /22 direct from ARIN yesterday. 

There is currently a supply of IPs available from ARIN. 

Otherwise your option is to buy at auction at a high expense. 

> On Dec 28, 2019, at 8:33 AM, Terrance Devor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I know we are very late in the game however, I need the community's help. As 
> our company continues to grow and establish long term relationships and 
> bringing additional customers onto our infrastructure, we find ourselves 
> desperately needing to reserve a /24.
> 
> I understand that IPv4 addresses are getting depleted as of 2015, can someone 
> on here please guide us on how to best secure /24?
> 
> Thank You in Advance,
> 
> Terrance