RE: UCEProtect Level 3
We had complaints about our entire ASN being listed too, due to a bunch of infected hosts in a sub-allocated /23 (out of our nearly /16 of space). The best part is they don't bother to report the abuse, they just block the entire ASN, not terribly productive. John van Oppen Spectrum Networks LLC Direct: 206.973.8302 Main: 206.973.8300 Website: http://spectrumnetworks.us -Original Message- From: Skywing [mailto:skyw...@valhallalegends.com] Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:31 PM To: Suresh Ramasubramanian; Raleigh Apple Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: UCEProtect Level 3 I seem to recall that Mailstreet/MXlogic firewalls off (not rejects at SMTP level) any AS listed in UCEProtect, at least of about a year or so ago. - S -Original Message- From: Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.li...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 22:25 To: Raleigh Apple rap...@rapidlink.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: UCEProtect Level 3 On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Raleigh Apple rap...@rapidlink.com wrote: Is anyone else out there aware that the UCEProtect Level 3 email blacklist blocks entire AS? Is there anyone out there aware of any significant (or larger than 'man and his dog on a DSL') mail provider using UCEPROTECT? -- Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.li...@gmail.com)
RE: UCEProtect Level 3
Yes. Is that a problem? -Original Message- From: Raleigh Apple [mailto:rap...@rapidlink.com] Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:34 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: UCEProtect Level 3 Is anyone else out there aware that the UCEProtect Level 3 email blacklist blocks entire AS? r
Re: UCEProtect Level 3
On 2009/05/07 08:34 PM Raleigh Apple wrote: Is anyone else out there aware that the UCEProtect Level 3 email blacklist blocks entire AS? Yes. We don't use them anymore.
Re: UCEProtect Level 3
On Thu, 7 May 2009 13:43:14 -0500 Aaron Wendel aa...@wholesaleinternet.net wrote: Yes. Is that a problem? It is. I understand what they are trying to do but we were cut off from some places because someone else in the huge upstream we are with did something that appeared to be spam. It's too broad of a brush. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner.
Re: UCEProtect Level 3
We stopped using UCEProtect in most places recently after using for I think a year or two -- Level 2 was blacklisting giant-sized netblocks (ie, most Cablevision cablemodem IP Space, twice, as well as large chunks of AboveNet space, and that's just what I noticed). - Original Message - From: Raleigh Apple rap...@rapidlink.com To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 2:34:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: UCEProtect Level 3 Is anyone else out there aware that the UCEProtect Level 3 email blacklist blocks entire AS? r
Re: UCEProtect Level 3
On May 7, 2009, at 4:10 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: It is. I understand what they are trying to do but we were cut off from some places because someone else in the huge upstream we are with did something that appeared to be spam. It's too broad of a brush. Indeed. That is the sort of vigilantism that leads to filtering chaos. What happens when other ASNs start filtering the entire AS of UCEProtect's upstream(s) as a response? -Matt
Re: UCEProtect Level 3
On Thu, 7 May 2009 16:21:26 -0400 Rich Kulawiec r...@gsp.org wrote: (a) This discussion should probably be happening someplace other than NANOG (spam-l or mailop, perhaps?), and True. I didn't bring it up but this is my last post on the subject. (b) If you feel that UCEProtect L3 paints with too broad a brush, then you're certainly free not to use it. I happen to agree with you on this particular level of this particular DNSBL for my particular applications, so I don't use it either. However: I'm aware of other folks who are using it quite effectively as *part* of a scoring system. I don't use it but my problem was that other ISPs whose clients were trying to email my clients were using it. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner.
RE: UCEProtect Level 3
Anyone who reads their description of it would be: http://www.uceprotect.net/en/index.php?m=3s=5 Are you one of the ASes they blacklist on that list? -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen [mailto:se...@rollernet.us] Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:44 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: UCEProtect Level 3 Raleigh Apple wrote: Is anyone else out there aware that the UCEProtect Level 3 email blacklist blocks entire AS? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=uceprotect+level+3
Re: UCEProtect Level 3
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Raleigh Apple rap...@rapidlink.com wrote: Is anyone else out there aware that the UCEProtect Level 3 email blacklist blocks entire AS? Is there anyone out there aware of any significant (or larger than 'man and his dog on a DSL') mail provider using UCEPROTECT? -- Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.li...@gmail.com)
RE: UCEProtect Level 3
I seem to recall that Mailstreet/MXlogic firewalls off (not rejects at SMTP level) any AS listed in UCEProtect, at least of about a year or so ago. - S -Original Message- From: Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.li...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 22:25 To: Raleigh Apple rap...@rapidlink.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: UCEProtect Level 3 On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Raleigh Apple rap...@rapidlink.com wrote: Is anyone else out there aware that the UCEProtect Level 3 email blacklist blocks entire AS? Is there anyone out there aware of any significant (or larger than 'man and his dog on a DSL') mail provider using UCEPROTECT? -- Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.li...@gmail.com)
Re: UCEProtect Level 3
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Skywing skyw...@valhallalegends.com wrote: I seem to recall that Mailstreet/MXlogic firewalls off (not rejects at SMTP level) any AS listed in UCEProtect, at least of about a year or so ago. - S I would be very surprised indeed if MX Logic did something like that. srs
