Re: carrier grade fax boards?

[Pete Mundy]

> On 28/04/2016, at 6:36 pm, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 04:30:23 -, Ryan Finnesey said:
>> I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on carrier grade fax boards
>> that are SIP based?
> 
> What would "carrier grade" even *mean* for a fax board?

I took it to mean "expensive". :)



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RE: carrier grade fax boards?

[Colin Bodor]

If looking for old school industrial faxing capabilities then maybe something 
like:

https://www.dialogic.com/en/products/fax-boards-and-software/fax-boards.aspx

I have a client who used to us them with a custom inbound dictation application 
and multiple PRIs to feed them (not the fax board, but dialogic) worked well. 
Not cheap for licensing...

-C

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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hale
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 11:14 AM
To: Robert Jacobs <rjac...@pslightwave.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: carrier grade fax boards?

Not really fax board, but there are ATA (analog telephony (?)
adapters) that handle fax very well (and others that just suck at it).

Certain versions of the Cisco ATA 180 series worked really well even over 
satellite; others were terrible.  It's somewhat of a hit or miss area.

How many users are you supporting?  If you're looking for a device to just put 
on-prem at a customer site to handle fax, those ATAs are pretty easy to find.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Robert Jacobs <rjac...@pslightwave.com> wrote:
> I would not consider any fax board "carrier grade" that uses sip  sip to 
> pots for faxes is still hit and miss.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of 
> valdis.kletni...@vt.edu
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 1:36 AM
> To: Ryan Finnesey <r...@finnesey.com>
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: carrier grade fax boards?
>
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 04:30:23 -, Ryan Finnesey said:
>> I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on carrier grade 
>> fax boards that are SIP based?
>
> What would "carrier grade" even *mean* for a fax board?



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Re: carrier grade fax boards?

[Mike Hale]

Not really fax board, but there are ATA (analog telephony (?)
adapters) that handle fax very well (and others that just suck at it).

Certain versions of the Cisco ATA 180 series worked really well even
over satellite; others were terrible.  It's somewhat of a hit or miss
area.

How many users are you supporting?  If you're looking for a device to
just put on-prem at a customer site to handle fax, those ATAs are
pretty easy to find.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Robert Jacobs <rjac...@pslightwave.com> wrote:
> I would not consider any fax board "carrier grade" that uses sip  sip to 
> pots for faxes is still hit and miss.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of 
> valdis.kletni...@vt.edu
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 1:36 AM
> To: Ryan Finnesey <r...@finnesey.com>
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: carrier grade fax boards?
>
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 04:30:23 -, Ryan Finnesey said:
>> I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on carrier grade fax
>> boards that are SIP based?
>
> What would "carrier grade" even *mean* for a fax board?



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Re: carrier grade fax boards?

[Kraig Beahn]

100% Dialogic, we are currently using both of their carrier-grade boards
and IMG's to deliver fax services in various flavors of transport
configurations to end-users and wholesale customers.

Pricey, but well worth every penny...

MSP/FSP -
https://www.dialogic.com/en/products/fax-boards-and-software/foip/fsp.aspx
IMG series w/SS7 support -
https://www.dialogic.com/en/products/gateways.aspx



On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Ryan Finnesey  wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on carrier grade fax
> boards that are SIP based?
>
> Cheers
> Ryan
>
>

RE: carrier grade fax boards?

[Robert Jacobs]

I would not consider any fax board "carrier grade" that uses sip  sip to 
pots for faxes is still hit and miss.

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of 
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 1:36 AM
To: Ryan Finnesey <r...@finnesey.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: carrier grade fax boards?

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 04:30:23 -, Ryan Finnesey said:
> I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on carrier grade fax 
> boards that are SIP based?

What would "carrier grade" even *mean* for a fax board?

Re: carrier grade fax boards?

[Faisal Imtiaz]

When you use the terms 'SIP' and 'Fax/Board' in the same sentence, it sort of 
becomes an oxymoron.

In the analog world, we used to use 'Carrier grade' Fax/boards made by 
BrookTrout which was then acquired by Dialogic. (Truefax line), and there were 
a couple of others.. mostly these were cards with large amount of DSP's used 
for fax processing multiple channels on digital links (BRI/PRI/T1's etc).

Since SIP is a 'communication protocol' which works with IP, there is no need 
for 'Fax/Board', since all everything needed can be done via software. The only 
reason one may need Hardware is to convert SIP to traditional TDM (POTS line or 
PRI/T1/E1 etc). Most of us are used to referring to these devices as IAD's.

Having said that, what are you looking to do ? Traditional TDM fax or SIP based 
FOIP ?

:)

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom


- Original Message -
> From: "Ryan Finnesey" <r...@finnesey.com>
> To: "Valdis Kletnieks" <valdis.kletni...@vt.edu>
> Cc: "nanog list" <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:41:23 AM
> Subject: RE: carrier grade fax boards?

> Fax hardware/boards that other members have used  within service provider
> environments to deliver services to their end users .
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu [mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:36 AM
> To: Ryan Finnesey <r...@finnesey.com>
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: carrier grade fax boards?
> 
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 04:30:23 -, Ryan Finnesey said:
>> I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on carrier grade fax
>> boards that are SIP based?
> 
> What would "carrier grade" even *mean* for a fax board?

RE: carrier grade fax boards?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Fax hardware/boards that other members have used  within service provider 
environments to deliver services to their end users .  

-Original Message-
From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu [mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:36 AM
To: Ryan Finnesey <r...@finnesey.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: carrier grade fax boards?

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 04:30:23 -, Ryan Finnesey said:
> I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on carrier grade fax 
> boards that are SIP based?

What would "carrier grade" even *mean* for a fax board?

Re: carrier grade fax boards?

[Valdis . Kletnieks]

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 04:30:23 -, Ryan Finnesey said:
> I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on carrier grade fax boards
> that are SIP based?

What would "carrier grade" even *mean* for a fax board?


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