Re: 192.250.24.0/22 (as 23034) not reachable from Verizon, tinet, global crossing, XO

2014-09-19 Thread Mike Tancsa

On 9/18/2014 4:42 PM, Brock Massel wrote:

Hi folks,
I'm hoping someone can shed some light on the situation.

The 192.250.24 addresses have been reachable for several months in the current 
configuration with no reported issues. Since the 16th we have been hearing 
reports that destinations in that block are unavailable for some.

Several looking glass' report network not in table.


Which ones ? I see you via just Rogers (AS812). Do you have transit with 
anyone else ?


TATA (AS6453) does not seem to know about you for some reason.  They 
peer directly with Rogers. Perhaps the RADB entries are not there for 
you ?  I think they create their filters based on that.



% whois -h whois.ra.net 192.250.24.0
route:  192.250.24.0/24
descr:  PNAP-ACS inflow route
origin: AS19294
mnt-by: MAINT-SGNS
changed:corey.dr...@sungard.com 20070201
source: RADB

route:  192.250.24.0/23
descr:  Encompass Europe
origin: AS702
member-of:  RS-UUNETNL
remarks:---
remarks:E-mail is the preferred contact method!
remarks:---
remarks:Please use one of the following addresses:
remarks:ab...@nl.uu.net   - for abuse notification
remarks:supp...@nl.uu.net - for technical questions
remarks:i...@nl.uu.net- for anything else
remarks:---
notify: ripe-guard...@nl.uu.net
mnt-by: AS1890-MNT
mnt-by: UUNET-MNT
changed:mar...@eu.uu.net 20011030
source: RIPE
remarks:
remarks:* THIS OBJECT IS NOT VALID
remarks:* Please note that all personal data has been removed 
from this object.
remarks:* To view the original object, please query the RIPE 
Database at:

remarks:* http://www.ripe.net/whois
remarks:

route:192.250.24.0/24
descr:Descartes-Inflow-ATL
origin:   AS19294
mnt-by:   ASN-INFLOW-NET
changed:  rdar...@inflow.com 20040330
source:   SAVVIS



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Sentex Communications, m...@sentex.net
Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net
Cambridge, Ontario Canada   http://www.tancsa.com/


Re: 192.250.24.0/22 (as 23034) not reachable from Verizon, tinet, global crossing, XO

2014-09-18 Thread Job Snijders
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 08:42:23PM +, Brock Massel wrote:
 The 192.250.24 addresses have been reachable for several months in the
 current configuration with no reported issues. Since the 16th we have
 been hearing reports that destinations in that block are unavailable
 for some.
 
 Several looking glass' report network not in table. 

Which ones?

 Can someone lend a hand? What is the best way to improve this
 situation? How do we find where the problem is? 

Do you have a pingable IP address in the range which is problematic?
That would help others who are willing to debug your issue enormously.

Kind regards,

Job


Re: 192.250.24.0/22 (as 23034) not reachable from Verizon, tinet, global crossing, XO

2014-09-18 Thread sthaug
  The 192.250.24 addresses have been reachable for several months in the
  current configuration with no reported issues. Since the 16th we have
  been hearing reports that destinations in that block are unavailable
  for some.
  
  Several looking glass' report network not in table. 

Visible from here (AS 2116, Norway). 

 Do you have a pingable IP address in the range which is problematic?
 That would help others who are willing to debug your issue enormously.

192.250.24.1 and 192.250.24.2 (for example) are pingable from 2116.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no


Re: 192.250.24.0/22 (as 23034) not reachable from Verizon, tinet, global crossing, XO

2014-09-18 Thread Hugo Slabbert

On Thu 2014-Sep-18 23:08:55 +0200, sth...@nethelp.no sth...@nethelp.no wrote:

 The 192.250.24 addresses have been reachable for several months in the
 current configuration with no reported issues. Since the 16th we have
 been hearing reports that destinations in that block are unavailable
 for some.

 Several looking glass' report network not in table.


Visible from here (AS 2116, Norway).


Do you have a pingable IP address in the range which is problematic?
That would help others who are willing to debug your issue enormously.


192.250.24.1 and 192.250.24.2 (for example) are pingable from 2116.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no


Same from AS 19171 (Canada).  Shows up in all our transits and the IPs Steinar 
noted are pingable and traceable.  We're currently reaching it through 577 812 
23034.  All our transits are showing the route through 812 (Rogers).


--
Hugo Slabbert
Stargate Connections - AS19171



RE: 192.250.24.0/22 (as 23034) not reachable from Verizon, tinet, global crossing, XO

2014-09-18 Thread Tony Wicks


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of sth...@nethelp.no
Sent: Friday, 19 September 2014 9:09 a.m.
To: bmas...@descartes.com; j...@instituut.net
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: 192.250.24.0/22 (as 23034) not reachable from Verizon, tinet,
global crossing, XO

  The 192.250.24 addresses have been reachable for several months in 
  the current configuration with no reported issues. Since the 16th we 
  have been hearing reports that destinations in that block are 
  unavailable for some.

Reachable from New Zealand -

192.250.24.0/24*[BGP/170] 02:42:04, MED 0, localpref 90
  AS path: 4826 174 812 23034 I, validation-state:
unverified
 to 175.45.102.9 via ae1.526

64 bytes from 192.250.24.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=242 time=193.274 ms
64 bytes from 192.250.24.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=196.312 ms
64 bytes from 192.250.24.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=242 time=197.578 ms







Re: 192.250.24.0/22 (as 23034) not reachable from Verizon, tinet, global crossing, XO

2014-09-18 Thread Gary Baribault
Pingable from Montreal area as well

Gary Baribault
Courriel: g...@baribault.net
GPG Key: 0x685430d1
Fingerprint: 9E4D 1B7C CB9F 9239 11D9 71C3 6C35 C6B7 6854 30D1

On 09/18/2014 05:08 PM, sth...@nethelp.no wrote:
 The 192.250.24 addresses have been reachable for several months in the
 current configuration with no reported issues. Since the 16th we have
 been hearing reports that destinations in that block are unavailable
 for some.

 Several looking glass' report network not in table. 
 Visible from here (AS 2116, Norway). 

 Do you have a pingable IP address in the range which is problematic?
 That would help others who are willing to debug your issue enormously.
 192.250.24.1 and 192.250.24.2 (for example) are pingable from 2116.

 Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no




Re: 192.250.24.0/22 (as 23034) not reachable from Verizon, tinet, global crossing, XO

2014-09-18 Thread Gary Baribault
Hum, Traceroute is not as nice

traceroute to 192.250.24.1 (192.250.24.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  GW (192.168.0.2)  0.459 ms  0.435 ms  0.422 ms
 2  * * *
 3  10.170.182.81 (10.170.182.81)  18.417 ms  18.711 ms  18.702 ms
 4  216.113.124.126 (216.113.124.126)  16.611 ms  17.774 ms  17.774 ms
 5  216.113.122.74 (216.113.122.74)  45.746 ms  46.035 ms  46.025 ms
 6  144.232.7.250 (144.232.7.250)  44.529 ms  45.507 ms  45.178 ms
 7  be3013.ccr21.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.10.37)  38.741 ms 
35.537 ms  37.036 ms
 8  24.156.159.153 (24.156.159.153)  31.433 ms  32.658 ms  29.417 ms
 9  24.156.144.177 (24.156.144.177)  34.106 ms  32.621 ms
van58-10-228-225.dynamic.rogerstelecom.net (209.148.228.225)  30.299 ms
10  24.156.144.126 (24.156.144.126)  30.339 ms  30.329 ms  30.055 ms
11  24.153.4.185 (24.153.4.185)  32.955 ms  34.112 ms  34.146 ms
12  gi-3-0-0.agw02.hrnr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com (24.153.7.82)  30.935
ms  32.375 ms  32.356 ms
13  * * *
14  * * *
15  * * *
16  * * *
17  * * *
18  * * *
19  * * *
20  * * *
21  * * *
22  * * 206.186.1.10 (206.186.1.10)  37.869 ms

Gary Baribault
Courriel: g...@baribault.net
GPG Key: 0x685430d1
Fingerprint: 9E4D 1B7C CB9F 9239 11D9 71C3 6C35 C6B7 6854 30D1

On 09/18/2014 05:08 PM, sth...@nethelp.no wrote:
 The 192.250.24 addresses have been reachable for several months in the
 current configuration with no reported issues. Since the 16th we have
 been hearing reports that destinations in that block are unavailable
 for some.

 Several looking glass' report network not in table. 
 Visible from here (AS 2116, Norway). 

 Do you have a pingable IP address in the range which is problematic?
 That would help others who are willing to debug your issue enormously.
 192.250.24.1 and 192.250.24.2 (for example) are pingable from 2116.

 Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no




RE: 192.250.24.0/22 (as 23034) not reachable from Verizon, tinet, global crossing, XO

2014-09-18 Thread Brock Massel
Karsten,
Thank you I am not sure why those 702 and 19294 old entries would still be 
there. 

We have engaged 812 for help. 

Shall I assume cleaning up the old entries will solve the problems?



-Original Message-
From: Karsten Elfenbein [mailto:karsten.elfenb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:46 PM
To: Brock Massel
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: 192.250.24.0/22 (as 23034) not reachable from Verizon, tinet, 
global crossing, XO

Hi,

looks like you mainly use one transit provider (AS812) or your other transit 
providers correctly filter that prefix.

According to 
https://stat.ripe.net/data/prefix-routing-consistency/data.json?preferred_version=0.7resource=192.250.24.0%2F22
there is no route object for the 192.250.24.0/22.
As a result the AS6453(TATA COMMUNICATIONS (AMERICA) INC) seemed to have 
started filtering the prefix from AS812. Which reduced the visibility of that 
prefix. Check the BGplay from the last days:
https://stat.ripe.net/192.250.24.0%2F22#tabId=routing

so create the correct route object and the prefix should come up over the next 
day(s)

Also get the more specific route objects removed which point to other AS.

192.250.24.0/23 AS702
192.250.24.0/24 AS19294



Karsten

2014-09-18 22:42 GMT+02:00 Brock Massel bmas...@descartes.com:
 Hi folks,
 I'm hoping someone can shed some light on the situation.

 The 192.250.24 addresses have been reachable for several months in the 
 current configuration with no reported issues. Since the 16th we have been 
 hearing reports that destinations in that block are unavailable for some.

 Several looking glass' report network not in table.

 Can someone lend a hand? What is the best way to improve this situation? How 
 do we find where the problem is?

 B



Re: 192.250.24.0/22 (as 23034) not reachable from Verizon, tinet, global crossing, XO

2014-09-18 Thread Karsten Elfenbein
Hi,

looks like you mainly use one transit provider (AS812) or your other
transit providers correctly filter that prefix.

According to 
https://stat.ripe.net/data/prefix-routing-consistency/data.json?preferred_version=0.7resource=192.250.24.0%2F22
there is no route object for the 192.250.24.0/22.
As a result the AS6453(TATA COMMUNICATIONS (AMERICA) INC) seemed to
have started filtering the prefix from AS812. Which reduced the
visibility of that prefix. Check the BGplay from the last days:
https://stat.ripe.net/192.250.24.0%2F22#tabId=routing

so create the correct route object and the prefix should come up over
the next day(s)

Also get the more specific route objects removed which point to other AS.
192.250.24.0/23 AS702
192.250.24.0/24 AS19294


Karsten

2014-09-18 23:46 GMT+02:00 Karsten Elfenbein karsten.elfenb...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 looks like you mainly use one transit provider (AS812) or your other
 transit providers correctly filter that prefix.

 According to 
 https://stat.ripe.net/data/prefix-routing-consistency/data.json?preferred_version=0.7resource=192.250.24.0%2F22
 there is no route object for the 192.250.24.0/22.
 As a result the AS6453(TATA COMMUNICATIONS (AMERICA) INC) seemed to
 have started filtering the prefix from AS812. Which reduced the
 visibility of that prefix. Check the BGplay from the last days:
 https://stat.ripe.net/192.250.24.0%2F22#tabId=routing

 so create the correct route object and the prefix should come up over
 the next day(s)

 Also get the more specific route objects removed which point to other AS.

 192.250.24.0/23 AS702
 192.250.24.0/24 AS19294



 Karsten

 2014-09-18 22:42 GMT+02:00 Brock Massel bmas...@descartes.com:
 Hi folks,
 I'm hoping someone can shed some light on the situation.

 The 192.250.24 addresses have been reachable for several months in the 
 current configuration with no reported issues. Since the 16th we have been 
 hearing reports that destinations in that block are unavailable for some.

 Several looking glass' report network not in table.

 Can someone lend a hand? What is the best way to improve this situation? How 
 do we find where the problem is?

 B


Re: 192.250.24.0/22 (as 23034) not reachable from Verizon, tinet, global crossing, XO

2014-09-18 Thread Karsten Elfenbein
The more specific objects are more cosmetic issue.
The main problem is the missing object for your /22. As well as your
AS23034 does not seem to be listed in AS-ROGERS:AS-CUSTOMERS
http://bgp.he.net/AS812#_irr

Karsten



2014-09-18 23:54 GMT+02:00 Brock Massel bmas...@descartes.com:
 Karsten,
 Thank you I am not sure why those 702 and 19294 old entries would still be 
 there.

 We have engaged 812 for help.

 Shall I assume cleaning up the old entries will solve the problems?



 -Original Message-
 From: Karsten Elfenbein [mailto:karsten.elfenb...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:46 PM
 To: Brock Massel
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: 192.250.24.0/22 (as 23034) not reachable from Verizon, tinet, 
 global crossing, XO

 Hi,

 looks like you mainly use one transit provider (AS812) or your other transit 
 providers correctly filter that prefix.

 According to 
 https://stat.ripe.net/data/prefix-routing-consistency/data.json?preferred_version=0.7resource=192.250.24.0%2F22
 there is no route object for the 192.250.24.0/22.
 As a result the AS6453(TATA COMMUNICATIONS (AMERICA) INC) seemed to have 
 started filtering the prefix from AS812. Which reduced the visibility of that 
 prefix. Check the BGplay from the last days:
 https://stat.ripe.net/192.250.24.0%2F22#tabId=routing

 so create the correct route object and the prefix should come up over the 
 next day(s)

 Also get the more specific route objects removed which point to other AS.

 192.250.24.0/23 AS702
 192.250.24.0/24 AS19294



 Karsten

 2014-09-18 22:42 GMT+02:00 Brock Massel bmas...@descartes.com:
 Hi folks,
 I'm hoping someone can shed some light on the situation.

 The 192.250.24 addresses have been reachable for several months in the 
 current configuration with no reported issues. Since the 16th we have been 
 hearing reports that destinations in that block are unavailable for some.

 Several looking glass' report network not in table.

 Can someone lend a hand? What is the best way to improve this situation? How 
 do we find where the problem is?

 B