Re: 2000::/6

2014-09-16 Thread Owen DeLong

On Sep 14, 2014, at 2:19 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Tarko Tikan ta...@lanparty.ee wrote:
 2000::/64 has nothing to do with it.
 
 Any address between 2000::::::: and
 23ff::::::: together with misconfigured prefix
 length (6 instead 64) becomes 2000::/6 prefix.
 
 It should be rejected for the same reason that  192.168.10.0/16 is
 invalid in a prefix list  or access list.
 
 Any decent router won't allow you to enter just anything in that range
 into the export rules  with a /6,  except 2000::  itself, and will
 even show you a failure response instead of silently ignoring the
 invalid input,  for the very purpose of helping you avoid such errors.
   2001::1/6  would be an example of an invalid input --  there are
 one or more non-zero bits listed outside the prefix, or where  bits in
 the mask are zero.
 
 Only 2000:::::::/6properly conforms,
 not just any IP   in that range  can have a /6  appended to the end.

Which is one of the reasons I think it was more likely a typo for 2000::/3
being entered via numeric keypad.

3 and 6 are adjacent on a numeric keypad and both 2000::/3 and 2000::/6 are
valid prefixes.

Owen



Re: 2000::/6

2014-09-15 Thread Tarko Tikan

hey,


Any decent router won't allow you to enter just anything in that range
into the export rules  with a /6,  except 2000::  itself, and will
even show you a failure response instead of silently ignoring the
invalid input,  for the very purpose of helping you avoid such errors.


IOS was already brought up, luckily Junos and TIMOS do just that (both 
for prefix-lists and static routes). Unfortunately directly connected 
networks remain and there is no way to solve that.


--
tarko


Re: 2000::/6

2014-09-14 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Tarko Tikan ta...@lanparty.ee wrote:
 2000::/64 has nothing to do with it.

 Any address between 2000::::::: and
 23ff::::::: together with misconfigured prefix
 length (6 instead 64) becomes 2000::/6 prefix.

It should be rejected for the same reason that  192.168.10.0/16 is
invalid in a prefix list  or access list.

Any decent router won't allow you to enter just anything in that range
into the export rules  with a /6,  except 2000::  itself, and will
even show you a failure response instead of silently ignoring the
invalid input,  for the very purpose of helping you avoid such errors.
   2001::1/6  would be an example of an invalid input --  there are
one or more non-zero bits listed outside the prefix, or where  bits in
the mask are zero.

Only 2000:::::::/6properly conforms,
not just any IP   in that range  can have a /6  appended to the end.


-- 
-JH


Re: 2000::/6

2014-09-14 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 14/09/2014 22:19, Jimmy Hess wrote:
 Any decent router won't allow you to enter just anything in that range
 into the export rules  with a /6,  except 2000::  itself

tarko is right in suggesting that config typos can cause this sort of
thing, e.g.

--
router bgp 6
address-family ipv6
 redistribute static

ipv6 route 2001:418:3ef:1000::/6 2001:db8::1
--

Bear in mind that the network statement in the router bgp stanza on cisco
routers is only one of several methods of injecting prefixes into a bgp
rib, and is a method that many people routinely avoid because it means
duplication of configuration: each network statement requires a grounding
ip{v6} route statement in order to work stably.  So why not combine the two?

Nick



Re: 2000::/6

2014-09-14 Thread Brett Frankenberger
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 04:19:42PM -0500, Jimmy Hess wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Tarko Tikan ta...@lanparty.ee wrote:
  2000::/64 has nothing to do with it.
 
  Any address between 2000::::::: and
  23ff::::::: together with misconfigured prefix
  length (6 instead 64) becomes 2000::/6 prefix.
 
 It should be rejected for the same reason that  192.168.10.0/16 is
 invalid in a prefix list  or access list.

RTR(config)#ip prefix-list TEST permit 192.168.10.0/16
RTR(config)#do sho ip prefix-list TEST
ip prefix-list TEST: 1 entries
   seq 5 permit 192.168.0.0/16

This isn't surprising to people who've been using IOS for a while ...
 
 Any decent router won't allow you to enter just anything in that range
 into the export rules  with a /6,  except 2000::  itself, and will
 even show you a failure response instead of silently ignoring the
 invalid input,  for the very purpose of helping you avoid such errors.

Well, unfortunately, a lot of us have (as you define the term) indecent
routers.

RTR(config)#ipv6 prefix-list TEST permit 2000:::/6
RTR(config)#do sho ipv6 prefix-list TEST
ipv6 prefix-list TEST: 1 entries
   seq 5 permit 2000::/6

2001::1/6  would be an example of an invalid input --  there are
 one or more non-zero bits listed outside the prefix, or where  bits in
 the mask are zero.
 
 Only 2000:::::::/6properly conforms,
 not just any IP   in that range  can have a /6  appended to the end.

 -- Brett


Re: 2000::/6

2014-09-13 Thread Tarko Tikan

hey,


There is no matching entry in whois for 2000::/64 (or shorter), so it is 
unlikely that 2000::/64 was an intended configuration.


2000::/64 has nothing to do with it.

Any address between 2000::::::: and 
23ff::::::: together with misconfigured 
prefix length (6 instead 64) becomes 2000::/6 prefix.


--
tarko


Re: 2000::/6

2014-09-12 Thread Tarko Tikan

hey,


maybe i am more than usually st00pid this evening, but i am no smarter
on what actually happened, how it was detected


Dunno about others but I personally detected it using my tools that look 
for our prefixes (or more specifics) being advertised by someone else. 
Large covering prefix obviously triggered the bells.


I'm pretty sure it was a typo in the config, the prefix length had to be 
/64 but was entered as /6 instead.


--
tarko


Re: 2000::/6

2014-09-12 Thread Nick Hilliard

On 12/09/2014 08:53, Tarko Tikan wrote:

I'm pretty sure it was a typo in the config, the prefix length had to be
/64 but was entered as /6 instead.


2000::/64 doesn't make much sense either.

Nick



Re: 2000::/6

2014-09-12 Thread Tarko Tikan

hey,


2000::/64 doesn't make much sense either.


No and it was obviously not what was configured.

But something like 2001:7d0:1:1::1/64 misconfigured on interface as 
2001:7d0:1:1::1/6 becomes 2000::/6


--
tarko


Re: 2000::/6

2014-09-12 Thread Owen DeLong
My guess, actually, would be that someone was entering a more specific default 
(2000::/3) using a numeric keypad and missed the key with an off by one row 
error.

There is no matching entry in whois for 2000::/64 (or shorter), so it is 
unlikely that 2000::/64 was an intended configuration.

Owen

On Sep 12, 2014, at 12:53 AM, Tarko Tikan ta...@lanparty.ee wrote:

 hey,
 
 maybe i am more than usually st00pid this evening, but i am no smarter
 on what actually happened, how it was detected
 
 Dunno about others but I personally detected it using my tools that look for 
 our prefixes (or more specifics) being advertised by someone else. Large 
 covering prefix obviously triggered the bells.
 
 I'm pretty sure it was a typo in the config, the prefix length had to be /64 
 but was entered as /6 instead.
 
 -- 
 tarko



Re: 2000::/6

2014-09-11 Thread Randy Bush
 According to https://stat.ripe.net/2000%3A%3A%2F6#tabId=routing
 2000::/6 is visible by 79% of 92 IPv6 RIS full peers.
 This problem has been solved.

do we mark it up to pixie dust, or do we get an actual post mortem?

randy


Re: 2000::/6

2014-09-11 Thread Jared Mauch

 On Sep 11, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
 
 According to https://stat.ripe.net/2000%3A%3A%2F6#tabId=routing
 2000::/6 is visible by 79% of 92 IPv6 RIS full peers.
 This problem has been solved.
 
 do we mark it up to pixie dust, or do we get an actual post mortem?

I talked to folks at 3549, they had a few tickets on it that took care of that.

I know we are reviewing our “alloc-boundary” filter to prevent such a large 
prefix passing again.

- Jared

Re: 2000::/6

2014-09-11 Thread Randy Bush
 According to https://stat.ripe.net/2000%3A%3A%2F6#tabId=routing
 2000::/6 is visible by 79% of 92 IPv6 RIS full peers.
 This problem has been solved.
 do we mark it up to pixie dust, or do we get an actual post mortem?
 I talked to folks at 3549, they had a few tickets on it that took care
 of that.

maybe i am more than usually st00pid this evening, but i am no smarter
on what actually happened, how it was detected/reported by/to someone
who could fix it, and how it was fixed.  you know, a basic post mortem,
so some of us could learn a lesson or two.

randy


Re: 2000::/6

2014-09-10 Thread Alain Hebert
As of 8h30m EST.

*i 2000::/6   ipv6 peer1001000  3257 3549 i
   Last update to IP routing table: 21h23m56s

-
Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net   
PubNIX Inc.
50 boul. St-Charles
P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7
Tel: 514-990-5911  http://www.pubnix.netFax: 514-990-9443

On 09/10/14 07:20, Tarko Tikan wrote:
 hey,

 2000::/6 with aspath 3257 3549 has appeared in global routing table.
 Surely we can't be only ones seeing it. Looks like someone messed up
 interface/route config at 3549 by omitting 4 from the prefixlen.

 According to https://stat.ripe.net/2000%3A%3A%2F6#tabId=routing
 2000::/6 is visible by 79% of 92 IPv6 RIS full peers.




Re: 2000::/6

2014-09-10 Thread Wouter Prins
Hi,

::/24 is also present:   AS-PATH 8455 13030 9498 7602

Mailed the tech-c 2 weeks ago, no response so far.

On 10 September 2014 14:33, Alain Hebert aheb...@pubnix.net wrote:

 As of 8h30m EST.

 *i 2000::/6   ipv6 peer1001000  3257 3549 i
Last update to IP routing table: 21h23m56s

 -
 Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net
 PubNIX Inc.
 50 boul. St-Charles
 P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7
 Tel: 514-990-5911  http://www.pubnix.netFax: 514-990-9443

 On 09/10/14 07:20, Tarko Tikan wrote:
  hey,
 
  2000::/6 with aspath 3257 3549 has appeared in global routing table.
  Surely we can't be only ones seeing it. Looks like someone messed up
  interface/route config at 3549 by omitting 4 from the prefixlen.
 
  According to https://stat.ripe.net/2000%3A%3A%2F6#tabId=routing
  2000::/6 is visible by 79% of 92 IPv6 RIS full peers.
 




-- 
Wouter Prins
w...@null0.nl


Re: 2000::/6

2014-09-10 Thread Job Snijders
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 02:20:45PM +0300, Tarko Tikan wrote:
 2000::/6 with aspath 3257 3549 has appeared in global routing table. Surely
 we can't be only ones seeing it. Looks like someone messed up
 interface/route config at 3549 by omitting 4 from the prefixlen.
 
 According to https://stat.ripe.net/2000%3A%3A%2F6#tabId=routing
 2000::/6 is visible by 79% of 92 IPv6 RIS full peers.

This problem has been solved.

Kind regards,

Job