Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Tarko Tikan]

hey,


I used Huawei GPON gear at previous job.


+1 for the MA5600 series. They are decent boxes compared to most of the 
other vendors that tend to be hardcore telco with (undocumented) TL1 
management plane.


--
tarko

RE: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Scott Helms]

Frank,

Take a look at this webinar.

https://www.webcaster4.com/Webcast/Page?companyId=116=10264
On Nov 12, 2015 7:03 PM, "Frank Bulk" <frnk...@iname.com> wrote:

> What does ADTRAN's NG-PON2 upgrade path have over Calix's?
>
> Frank
>
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:49 PM
> To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?
>
> We are about do deploy Calix, but after hearing about $company
> deploying Adtran and liking their chassis features and NG-PON2 upgrade
> path, we are now open to other vendors. Price IS a concern for us, but
> not THE concern.
>
> This may sound "wacky" to some, but if anybody on here is using Huawei
> GPON gear, could you contact me off list? Thanks
> (josh AT kyneticwifi.com)
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Jay Patel <cle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Who is your favorite GPON  OLT/ONU Vendor? Why?   I am looking for
> > recommendations
> >
> > I apologize in advance , if you feel my question is inappropriate for
> this
> > mailing list ( feel free to point me to right forum/mailing list).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jay.
>
>
>

RE: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Jason Baugher]

Too bad they require registration, don't need yet another sales person
calling me.

The abstract reads more or less like what Calix is promoting with their
product development.
On Nov 12, 2015 6:25 PM, "Scott Helms" <khe...@zcorum.com> wrote:

> Frank,
>
> Take a look at this webinar.
>
> https://www.webcaster4.com/Webcast/Page?companyId=116=10264
> On Nov 12, 2015 7:03 PM, "Frank Bulk" <frnk...@iname.com> wrote:
>
> > What does ADTRAN's NG-PON2 upgrade path have over Calix's?
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:49 PM
> > To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
> > Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?
> >
> > We are about do deploy Calix, but after hearing about $company
> > deploying Adtran and liking their chassis features and NG-PON2 upgrade
> > path, we are now open to other vendors. Price IS a concern for us, but
> > not THE concern.
> >
> > This may sound "wacky" to some, but if anybody on here is using Huawei
> > GPON gear, could you contact me off list? Thanks
> > (josh AT kyneticwifi.com)
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Jay Patel <cle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Who is your favorite GPON  OLT/ONU Vendor? Why?   I am looking for
> > > recommendations
> > >
> > > I apologize in advance , if you feel my question is inappropriate for
> > this
> > > mailing list ( feel free to point me to right forum/mailing list).
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Jay.
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Mark Tinka]

On 12/Nov/15 20:42, Josh Reynolds wrote:

> Did you guys use them for core and distribution switching/routing as
> well, or just on the GPON access side?

Just GPON.

All IP/MPLS/Ethernet kit was Cisco and Juniper.

Mark.

RE: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Frank Bulk]

What does ADTRAN's NG-PON2 upgrade path have over Calix's?

Frank

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:49 PM
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

We are about do deploy Calix, but after hearing about $company
deploying Adtran and liking their chassis features and NG-PON2 upgrade
path, we are now open to other vendors. Price IS a concern for us, but
not THE concern.

This may sound "wacky" to some, but if anybody on here is using Huawei
GPON gear, could you contact me off list? Thanks
(josh AT kyneticwifi.com)

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Jay Patel <cle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Who is your favorite GPON  OLT/ONU Vendor? Why?   I am looking for
> recommendations
>
> I apologize in advance , if you feel my question is inappropriate for this
> mailing list ( feel free to point me to right forum/mailing list).
>
> Regards,
> Jay.

Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Carlos Alcantar]

I believe with any of these arms dealers (gpon vendors) they all have there 
goods and bads, it really comes down to what poison you feel you can deal with. 
 The one place I can speak on with calix is there consumer connect with there 
800 series ont's has pushed it to a totally different level, it's not perfect 
but it's getting there. 

​
Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com



From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Scott Helms 
<khe...@zcorum.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 4:24 PM
To: Frank Bulk (iname.com)
Cc: NANOG
Subject: RE: Favorite GPON Vendor?

Frank,

Take a look at this webinar.

https://www.webcaster4.com/Webcast/Page?companyId=116=10264
On Nov 12, 2015 7:03 PM, "Frank Bulk" <frnk...@iname.com> wrote:

> What does ADTRAN's NG-PON2 upgrade path have over Calix's?
>
> Frank
>
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:49 PM
> To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?
>
> We are about do deploy Calix, but after hearing about $company
> deploying Adtran and liking their chassis features and NG-PON2 upgrade
> path, we are now open to other vendors. Price IS a concern for us, but
> not THE concern.
>
> This may sound "wacky" to some, but if anybody on here is using Huawei
> GPON gear, could you contact me off list? Thanks
> (josh AT kyneticwifi.com)
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Jay Patel <cle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Who is your favorite GPON  OLT/ONU Vendor? Why?   I am looking for
> > recommendations
> >
> > I apologize in advance , if you feel my question is inappropriate for
> this
> > mailing list ( feel free to point me to right forum/mailing list).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jay.
>
>
>

Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Tiago Arnold]

To me the best solution in GPON is http://www.parks.com.br/ from Brazil.
Good support and innovation.

RE: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[nanog-isp]

> Too bad they require registration

Direct download link:

http://www.webcaster4.com/Player/Material?uid=2305846=5f4478fb-d75f-4ef6-93f3-e25b67862c7a

Or login with d...@sharklasers.com. 

Jared

Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Aftab Siddiqui]

On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 at 08:43 Tarko Tikan  wrote:

> hey,
>
> > I used Huawei GPON gear at previous job.
>
> +1 for the MA5600 series.
>

+1 for MA5600. Very stable and inter-op is also possible.
-- 
Best Wishes,

Aftab A. Siddiqui

Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Jonathan Falcão]

I thought I would see something about fiberhome here

Em sex, 13 de nov de 2015 00:04, Aftab Siddiqui 
escreveu:

> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 at 08:43 Tarko Tikan  wrote:
>
> > hey,
> >
> > > I used Huawei GPON gear at previous job.
> >
> > +1 for the MA5600 series.
> >
>
> +1 for MA5600. Very stable and inter-op is also possible.
> --
> Best Wishes,
>
> Aftab A. Siddiqui
>

Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Josh Reynolds]

Did you guys use them for core and distribution switching/routing as
well, or just on the GPON access side?

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:41 PM, Mark Tinka  wrote:
>
>
> On 12/Nov/15 04:48, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
>>
>> This may sound "wacky" to some, but if anybody on here is using Huawei
>> GPON gear, could you contact me off list?
>
> I used Huawei GPON gear at previous job.
>
> I won't lie, it worked great. A few bugs with the IGMP implementation,
> but nothing a plane full of Huawei engineers from China with a local
> translator couldn't fix.
>
> That network probably still uses Huawei today. I'm more into Active-E
> myself, these days.
>
> Mark.

Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Josh Reynolds]

We are about do deploy Calix, but after hearing about $company
deploying Adtran and liking their chassis features and NG-PON2 upgrade
path, we are now open to other vendors. Price IS a concern for us, but
not THE concern.

This may sound "wacky" to some, but if anybody on here is using Huawei
GPON gear, could you contact me off list? Thanks
(josh AT kyneticwifi.com)

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Jay Patel  wrote:
> Who is your favorite GPON  OLT/ONU Vendor? Why?   I am looking for
> recommendations
>
> I apologize in advance , if you feel my question is inappropriate for this
> mailing list ( feel free to point me to right forum/mailing list).
>
> Regards,
> Jay.

Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Jason Baugher]

That is the case with Calix Active Ethernet ONT's, but not with GPON. AE
ONT's need a tftp server on boot to get a configuration.
On Nov 11, 2015 2:00 PM, "Brian R" <briansupp...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Previously I had stated we tested Calix equipment.  That was wrong, we had
> deployed Tellabs GPON equipment.  That was what we had had problems with
> and had not received much support on.
> Apologies for the error.
>
> I believe the reason we chose not to go with Calix was the requirement to
> have a constant connection between the configuration server/hardware and
> the ONTs.  If there was a problem with the configuration server or if the
> ONT reloaded and was not able to reach the configuration server the ONT
> would not configure.  We like the fact that the Adtrans were configured
> directly off their uplink hardware and that they were capable of storing
> the configuration on the ONT.
> We did not have any problems with Calix support that I can recall.
>
> Brian
> 
> From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Brian R <
> briansupp...@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:32 AM
> To: Art Plato
> Cc: nanog
> Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?
>
> Art,
>
> I can't say we have a lot of experience with the Adtran GPON units.  On
> the Active Ethernet side if we assign an IP to the ONT we can view all the
> stats going back to the TA5K.  From the TA5K we can also view the
> individual Ethernet ports.  I will send you directly some examples.  I
> don't think NANOG wants to see a bunch of Adtran "show ..." commands  : ]
>
> As far as Shawns Calix experiences the last time we tried Calix GPON was
> 5-6 years ago.  The CPE seemed solid but the POP side was in constant need
> of rebooting and we gave it up after about 8-12 months of customer
> frustrations.  At that time we did not get much help on the problems.
>
> Brian
>
> 
> From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Art Plato <
> apl...@coldwater.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 5:32 AM
> To: Shawn L
> Cc: nanog
> Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?
>
> Awesome. Thanks for the feedback Brian. Price is important, but not the be
> all of the consideration process. Troubleshooting ease matters just as much.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Shawn L" <sha...@up.net>
> To: "nanog" <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:27:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?
>
>
> We like Calix's gpon gear, especially the E7 series.  Though it's on the
> higher side price-wise than others.  Manageable through their CMS software,
> the web, or command line.  We tend to use their CMS software for most
> things, but the CLI is decent, and gives you access to anything you'd want.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Art Plato" <apl...@coldwater.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:38pm
> To:
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?
>
>
>
> Brian,
> How complex is the troubleshooting side of the Adtran? We Use the
> Enablence Wave7 and getting any useful information from the CPE via the CLI
> is like pulling hens teeth. I have yet to see a way to view the actual
> throughput on the ethernet interfaces, only total bits passed, or the light
> levels at the CPE fiber interface. A bit annoying actually. It means a
> truck roll to get light levels at the CPE.
>
> Art.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian R" <briansupp...@hotmail.com>
> To: "Eric Rogers" <ecrog...@precisionds.com>, "Jay Patel" <
> cle...@gmail.com>
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:25:44 PM
> Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?
>
> We use the Adtran ONT solutions. We are using AE (Active Ethernet) not
> GPON but the solutions are similar for Adtran. We are providing IP and
> Analog this way. If used in the specified scope only there have been very
> little problems. Adtran is constantly updating their firmware, this can be
> a positive and negative at times. LoL
>
> The configuration is Adtran TA5000 with an Active Ethernet 24-Port Module
> (1187562F1) feeding an ONT TA324E (1287737G2) at the customer premise.
> For power we are using the Cyber Power CSN27U12v-NA3 units.
> The clam shell we are using to put the ONT in is TA350 ONT NID HSG SPLICE
> (1187770G1)
> All of these part numbers should be available on Adtrans website to look
> up.
>
> We are also testing some iPhotonix ONTs but have not gotten to the point
> we are sure we want to deploy them.
>
> Bri

Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Mark Tinka]

On 12/Nov/15 04:48, Josh Reynolds wrote:

>
> This may sound "wacky" to some, but if anybody on here is using Huawei
> GPON gear, could you contact me off list?

I used Huawei GPON gear at previous job.

I won't lie, it worked great. A few bugs with the IGMP implementation,
but nothing a plane full of Huawei engineers from China with a local
translator couldn't fix.

That network probably still uses Huawei today. I'm more into Active-E
myself, these days.

Mark.

Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Brian R]

Previously I had stated we tested Calix equipment.  That was wrong, we had 
deployed Tellabs GPON equipment.  That was what we had had problems with and 
had not received much support on.
Apologies for the error.

I believe the reason we chose not to go with Calix was the requirement to have 
a constant connection between the configuration server/hardware and the ONTs.  
If there was a problem with the configuration server or if the ONT reloaded and 
was not able to reach the configuration server the ONT would not configure.  We 
like the fact that the Adtrans were configured directly off their uplink 
hardware and that they were capable of storing the configuration on the ONT.
We did not have any problems with Calix support that I can recall.

Brian

From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Brian R 
<briansupp...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:32 AM
To: Art Plato
Cc: nanog
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

Art,

I can't say we have a lot of experience with the Adtran GPON units.  On the 
Active Ethernet side if we assign an IP to the ONT we can view all the stats 
going back to the TA5K.  From the TA5K we can also view the individual Ethernet 
ports.  I will send you directly some examples.  I don't think NANOG wants to 
see a bunch of Adtran "show ..." commands  : ]

As far as Shawns Calix experiences the last time we tried Calix GPON was 5-6 
years ago.  The CPE seemed solid but the POP side was in constant need of 
rebooting and we gave it up after about 8-12 months of customer frustrations.  
At that time we did not get much help on the problems.

Brian


From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Art Plato 
<apl...@coldwater.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 5:32 AM
To: Shawn L
Cc: nanog
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

Awesome. Thanks for the feedback Brian. Price is important, but not the be all 
of the consideration process. Troubleshooting ease matters just as much.

- Original Message -
From: "Shawn L" <sha...@up.net>
To: "nanog" <nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:27:46 AM
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?


We like Calix's gpon gear, especially the E7 series.  Though it's on the higher 
side price-wise than others.  Manageable through their CMS software, the web, 
or command line.  We tend to use their CMS software for most things, but the 
CLI is decent, and gives you access to anything you'd want.


-Original Message-
From: "Art Plato" <apl...@coldwater.org>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:38pm
To:
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?



Brian,
How complex is the troubleshooting side of the Adtran? We Use the Enablence 
Wave7 and getting any useful information from the CPE via the CLI is like 
pulling hens teeth. I have yet to see a way to view the actual throughput on 
the ethernet interfaces, only total bits passed, or the light levels at the CPE 
fiber interface. A bit annoying actually. It means a truck roll to get light 
levels at the CPE.

Art.

- Original Message -
From: "Brian R" <briansupp...@hotmail.com>
To: "Eric Rogers" <ecrog...@precisionds.com>, "Jay Patel" <cle...@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:25:44 PM
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

We use the Adtran ONT solutions. We are using AE (Active Ethernet) not GPON but 
the solutions are similar for Adtran. We are providing IP and Analog this way. 
If used in the specified scope only there have been very little problems. 
Adtran is constantly updating their firmware, this can be a positive and 
negative at times. LoL

The configuration is Adtran TA5000 with an Active Ethernet 24-Port Module 
(1187562F1) feeding an ONT TA324E (1287737G2) at the customer premise.
For power we are using the Cyber Power CSN27U12v-NA3 units.
The clam shell we are using to put the ONT in is TA350 ONT NID HSG SPLICE 
(1187770G1)
All of these part numbers should be available on Adtrans website to look up.

We are also testing some iPhotonix ONTs but have not gotten to the point we are 
sure we want to deploy them.

Brian

PS I will post this in voiceops as well (it may be more relevant there)


From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Eric Rogers 
<ecrog...@precisionds.com>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 10:09 AM
To: Jay Patel; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Favorite GPON Vendor?

I Personally would like to know as well. We are just getting into GPON and the 
equipment we have been evaluating is clunky at best... It came highly 
recommended and supposed to be stable.

Eric Rogers
PDS Connect
www.pdsconnect.me
(317) 831-3000 x200


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jay Patel
Sent: Mo

Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Brian R]

Art,

I can't say we have a lot of experience with the Adtran GPON units.  On the 
Active Ethernet side if we assign an IP to the ONT we can view all the stats 
going back to the TA5K.  From the TA5K we can also view the individual Ethernet 
ports.  I will send you directly some examples.  I don't think NANOG wants to 
see a bunch of Adtran "show ..." commands  : ]

As far as Shawns Calix experiences the last time we tried Calix GPON was 5-6 
years ago.  The CPE seemed solid but the POP side was in constant need of 
rebooting and we gave it up after about 8-12 months of customer frustrations.  
At that time we did not get much help on the problems.

Brian


From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Art Plato 
<apl...@coldwater.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 5:32 AM
To: Shawn L
Cc: nanog
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

Awesome. Thanks for the feedback Brian. Price is important, but not the be all 
of the consideration process. Troubleshooting ease matters just as much.

- Original Message -
From: "Shawn L" <sha...@up.net>
To: "nanog" <nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:27:46 AM
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?


We like Calix's gpon gear, especially the E7 series.  Though it's on the higher 
side price-wise than others.  Manageable through their CMS software, the web, 
or command line.  We tend to use their CMS software for most things, but the 
CLI is decent, and gives you access to anything you'd want.


-Original Message-
From: "Art Plato" <apl...@coldwater.org>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:38pm
To:
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?



Brian,
How complex is the troubleshooting side of the Adtran? We Use the Enablence 
Wave7 and getting any useful information from the CPE via the CLI is like 
pulling hens teeth. I have yet to see a way to view the actual throughput on 
the ethernet interfaces, only total bits passed, or the light levels at the CPE 
fiber interface. A bit annoying actually. It means a truck roll to get light 
levels at the CPE.

Art.

- Original Message -
From: "Brian R" <briansupp...@hotmail.com>
To: "Eric Rogers" <ecrog...@precisionds.com>, "Jay Patel" <cle...@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:25:44 PM
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

We use the Adtran ONT solutions. We are using AE (Active Ethernet) not GPON but 
the solutions are similar for Adtran. We are providing IP and Analog this way. 
If used in the specified scope only there have been very little problems. 
Adtran is constantly updating their firmware, this can be a positive and 
negative at times. LoL

The configuration is Adtran TA5000 with an Active Ethernet 24-Port Module 
(1187562F1) feeding an ONT TA324E (1287737G2) at the customer premise.
For power we are using the Cyber Power CSN27U12v-NA3 units.
The clam shell we are using to put the ONT in is TA350 ONT NID HSG SPLICE 
(1187770G1)
All of these part numbers should be available on Adtrans website to look up.

We are also testing some iPhotonix ONTs but have not gotten to the point we are 
sure we want to deploy them.

Brian

PS I will post this in voiceops as well (it may be more relevant there)


From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Eric Rogers 
<ecrog...@precisionds.com>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 10:09 AM
To: Jay Patel; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Favorite GPON Vendor?

I Personally would like to know as well. We are just getting into GPON and the 
equipment we have been evaluating is clunky at best... It came highly 
recommended and supposed to be stable.

Eric Rogers
PDS Connect
www.pdsconnect.me
(317) 831-3000 x200


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jay Patel
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 9:50 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Favorite GPON Vendor?

Who is your favorite GPON OLT/ONU Vendor? Why? I am looking for
recommendations

I apologize in advance , if you feel my question is inappropriate for this 
mailing list ( feel free to point me to right forum/mailing list).

Regards,
Jay.

Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Jérôme Nicolle]

Hello Jay,

Le 09/11/2015 15:49, Jay Patel a écrit :
> Who is your favorite GPON  OLT/ONU Vendor? Why?   I am looking for
> recommendations

I've had great operationnal feedback with Alcatel's gear. Not the old
7302 series, rather the 7360s which support up to 16 ports/slot.

The best part is their provisionning system, because it's a "service
template" driven logic. It scales well, as long as you don't try to
produce L3 services right on the OLT chassis (better trunk to a 7750 SR
or any other L3 router).

The 7360FX line also has a P2P linecard, which is usefull when you want
to serve both residential and business accesses from the same device.

Higlights :
- Up to 32k GPON subscribers per chassis
- Up to 1152 gigabit ports per chassis in PtP setup (ideal for B2B)
- Unlimited customers from the same mamangement server (5620SAM,
optionnal but worth it past 5+ chassis)

On the financial aspects, well, it's surprisingly cheap as soon as you
have to scale past the chinese pizabox OLTs. Over 9 trees out of a
single PoP, you're definitely more effective with such devices.

Best regards,

-- 
Jérôme Nicolle
+33 6 19 31 27 14

Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Art Plato]

Awesome. Thanks for the feedback Brian. Price is important, but not the be all 
of the consideration process. Troubleshooting ease matters just as much.

- Original Message -
From: "Shawn L" <sha...@up.net>
To: "nanog" <nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:27:46 AM
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?


We like Calix's gpon gear, especially the E7 series.  Though it's on the higher 
side price-wise than others.  Manageable through their CMS software, the web, 
or command line.  We tend to use their CMS software for most things, but the 
CLI is decent, and gives you access to anything you'd want.
 

-Original Message-
From: "Art Plato" <apl...@coldwater.org>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:38pm
To: 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?



Brian,
How complex is the troubleshooting side of the Adtran? We Use the Enablence 
Wave7 and getting any useful information from the CPE via the CLI is like 
pulling hens teeth. I have yet to see a way to view the actual throughput on 
the ethernet interfaces, only total bits passed, or the light levels at the CPE 
fiber interface. A bit annoying actually. It means a truck roll to get light 
levels at the CPE.

Art.

- Original Message -
From: "Brian R" <briansupp...@hotmail.com>
To: "Eric Rogers" <ecrog...@precisionds.com>, "Jay Patel" <cle...@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:25:44 PM
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

We use the Adtran ONT solutions. We are using AE (Active Ethernet) not GPON but 
the solutions are similar for Adtran. We are providing IP and Analog this way. 
If used in the specified scope only there have been very little problems. 
Adtran is constantly updating their firmware, this can be a positive and 
negative at times. LoL

The configuration is Adtran TA5000 with an Active Ethernet 24-Port Module 
(1187562F1) feeding an ONT TA324E (1287737G2) at the customer premise.
For power we are using the Cyber Power CSN27U12v-NA3 units.
The clam shell we are using to put the ONT in is TA350 ONT NID HSG SPLICE 
(1187770G1)
All of these part numbers should be available on Adtrans website to look up.

We are also testing some iPhotonix ONTs but have not gotten to the point we are 
sure we want to deploy them.

Brian

PS I will post this in voiceops as well (it may be more relevant there)


From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Eric Rogers 
<ecrog...@precisionds.com>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 10:09 AM
To: Jay Patel; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Favorite GPON Vendor?

I Personally would like to know as well. We are just getting into GPON and the 
equipment we have been evaluating is clunky at best... It came highly 
recommended and supposed to be stable.

Eric Rogers
PDS Connect
www.pdsconnect.me
(317) 831-3000 x200


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jay Patel
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 9:50 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Favorite GPON Vendor?

Who is your favorite GPON OLT/ONU Vendor? Why? I am looking for
recommendations

I apologize in advance , if you feel my question is inappropriate for this 
mailing list ( feel free to point me to right forum/mailing list).

Regards,
Jay.

Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Shawn L]

We like Calix's gpon gear, especially the E7 series.  Though it's on the higher 
side price-wise than others.  Manageable through their CMS software, the web, 
or command line.  We tend to use their CMS software for most things, but the 
CLI is decent, and gives you access to anything you'd want.
 

-Original Message-
From: "Art Plato" <apl...@coldwater.org>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:38pm
To: 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?



Brian,
How complex is the troubleshooting side of the Adtran? We Use the Enablence 
Wave7 and getting any useful information from the CPE via the CLI is like 
pulling hens teeth. I have yet to see a way to view the actual throughput on 
the ethernet interfaces, only total bits passed, or the light levels at the CPE 
fiber interface. A bit annoying actually. It means a truck roll to get light 
levels at the CPE.

Art.

- Original Message -
From: "Brian R" <briansupp...@hotmail.com>
To: "Eric Rogers" <ecrog...@precisionds.com>, "Jay Patel" <cle...@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:25:44 PM
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

We use the Adtran ONT solutions. We are using AE (Active Ethernet) not GPON but 
the solutions are similar for Adtran. We are providing IP and Analog this way. 
If used in the specified scope only there have been very little problems. 
Adtran is constantly updating their firmware, this can be a positive and 
negative at times. LoL

The configuration is Adtran TA5000 with an Active Ethernet 24-Port Module 
(1187562F1) feeding an ONT TA324E (1287737G2) at the customer premise.
For power we are using the Cyber Power CSN27U12v-NA3 units.
The clam shell we are using to put the ONT in is TA350 ONT NID HSG SPLICE 
(1187770G1)
All of these part numbers should be available on Adtrans website to look up.

We are also testing some iPhotonix ONTs but have not gotten to the point we are 
sure we want to deploy them.

Brian

PS I will post this in voiceops as well (it may be more relevant there)


From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Eric Rogers 
<ecrog...@precisionds.com>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 10:09 AM
To: Jay Patel; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Favorite GPON Vendor?

I Personally would like to know as well. We are just getting into GPON and the 
equipment we have been evaluating is clunky at best... It came highly 
recommended and supposed to be stable.

Eric Rogers
PDS Connect
www.pdsconnect.me
(317) 831-3000 x200


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jay Patel
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 9:50 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Favorite GPON Vendor?

Who is your favorite GPON OLT/ONU Vendor? Why? I am looking for
recommendations

I apologize in advance , if you feel my question is inappropriate for this 
mailing list ( feel free to point me to right forum/mailing list).

Regards,
Jay.

RE: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Eric Rogers]

I Personally would like to know as well.  We are just getting into GPON and the 
equipment we have been evaluating is clunky at best... It came highly 
recommended and supposed to be stable.

Eric Rogers
PDS Connect
www.pdsconnect.me
(317) 831-3000 x200


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jay Patel
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 9:50 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Favorite GPON Vendor?

Who is your favorite GPON  OLT/ONU Vendor? Why?   I am looking for
recommendations

I apologize in advance , if you feel my question is inappropriate for this 
mailing list ( feel free to point me to right forum/mailing list).

Regards,
Jay.

Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Brian R]

We use the Adtran ONT solutions.  We are using AE (Active Ethernet) not GPON 
but the solutions are similar for Adtran.  We are providing IP and Analog this 
way.  If used in the specified scope only there have been very little problems. 
 Adtran is constantly updating their firmware, this can be a positive and 
negative at times.  LoL

The configuration is Adtran TA5000 with an Active Ethernet 24-Port Module 
(1187562F1) feeding an ONT TA324E (1287737G2) at the customer premise.
For power we are using the Cyber Power CSN27U12v-NA3 units.
The clam shell we are using to put the ONT in is TA350 ONT NID HSG SPLICE 
(1187770G1)
All of these part numbers should be available on Adtrans website to look up.

We are also testing some iPhotonix ONTs but have not gotten to the point we are 
sure we want to deploy them.

Brian

PS I will post this in voiceops as well (it may be more relevant there)


From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Eric Rogers 
<ecrog...@precisionds.com>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 10:09 AM
To: Jay Patel; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Favorite GPON Vendor?

I Personally would like to know as well.  We are just getting into GPON and the 
equipment we have been evaluating is clunky at best... It came highly 
recommended and supposed to be stable.

Eric Rogers
PDS Connect
www.pdsconnect.me
(317) 831-3000 x200


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jay Patel
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 9:50 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Favorite GPON Vendor?

Who is your favorite GPON  OLT/ONU Vendor? Why?   I am looking for
recommendations

I apologize in advance , if you feel my question is inappropriate for this 
mailing list ( feel free to point me to right forum/mailing list).

Regards,
Jay.

Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

[Art Plato]

Brian,
How complex is the troubleshooting side of the Adtran? We Use the Enablence 
Wave7 and getting any useful information from the CPE via the CLI is like 
pulling hens teeth. I have yet to see a way to view the actual throughput on 
the ethernet interfaces, only total bits passed, or the light levels at the CPE 
fiber interface. A bit annoying actually. It means a truck roll to get light 
levels at the CPE.

Art.

- Original Message -
From: "Brian R" <briansupp...@hotmail.com>
To: "Eric Rogers" <ecrog...@precisionds.com>, "Jay Patel" <cle...@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 2:25:44 PM
Subject: Re: Favorite GPON Vendor?

We use the Adtran ONT solutions.  We are using AE (Active Ethernet) not GPON 
but the solutions are similar for Adtran.  We are providing IP and Analog this 
way.  If used in the specified scope only there have been very little problems. 
 Adtran is constantly updating their firmware, this can be a positive and 
negative at times.  LoL

The configuration is Adtran TA5000 with an Active Ethernet 24-Port Module 
(1187562F1) feeding an ONT TA324E (1287737G2) at the customer premise.
For power we are using the Cyber Power CSN27U12v-NA3 units.
The clam shell we are using to put the ONT in is TA350 ONT NID HSG SPLICE 
(1187770G1)
All of these part numbers should be available on Adtrans website to look up.

We are also testing some iPhotonix ONTs but have not gotten to the point we are 
sure we want to deploy them.

Brian

PS I will post this in voiceops as well (it may be more relevant there)


From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Eric Rogers 
<ecrog...@precisionds.com>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 10:09 AM
To: Jay Patel; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Favorite GPON Vendor?

I Personally would like to know as well.  We are just getting into GPON and the 
equipment we have been evaluating is clunky at best... It came highly 
recommended and supposed to be stable.

Eric Rogers
PDS Connect
www.pdsconnect.me
(317) 831-3000 x200


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jay Patel
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 9:50 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Favorite GPON Vendor?

Who is your favorite GPON  OLT/ONU Vendor? Why?   I am looking for
recommendations

I apologize in advance , if you feel my question is inappropriate for this 
mailing list ( feel free to point me to right forum/mailing list).

Regards,
Jay.