Re: ICANN Response (Re: Ukraine request yikes)

2022-03-03 Thread Sean Donelan



https://www.icrc.org/en

Convention (V) respecting the Rights and Duties of Neutral Powers and 
Persons in Case of War on Land. The Hague, 18 October 1907.


CHAPTER I : THE RIGHTS AND DUTIES OF NEUTRAL POWERS - ART. 8.

Art. 8. A neutral Power is not called upon to forbid or restrict the use 
on behalf of the belligerents of telegraph or telephone cables or of 
wireless telegraphy apparatus belonging to it or to companies or private 
individuals.



CHAPTER I : THE RIGHTS AND DUTIES OF NEUTRAL POWERS - ART. 9.

Art. 9. Every measure of restriction or prohibition taken by a neutral 
Power in regard to the matters referred to in Articles 7 and 8

must be impartially applied by it to both belligerents.

A neutral Power must see to the same obligation being observed by 
companies or private individuals owning telegraph or telephone cables or 
wireless telegraphy apparatus.


[not an international relations lawyer]


Re: ICANN Response (Re: Ukraine request yikes)

2022-03-03 Thread Brian R
John,

Thank you for these.  I'm glad to hear the stance on both of these.

Brian

From: NANOG  on behalf of 
John Curran 
Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2022 5:04 AM
To: Nanog 
Subject: ICANN Response (Re: Ukraine request yikes)

ICANN response request from the Ukraine regarding various DNS interventions – 
https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/marby-to-fedorov-02mar22-en.pdf

FYI,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers


On 2 Mar 2022, at 1:01 AM, John Curran 
mailto:jcur...@arin.net>> wrote:

Regarding the portion of the request to the RIPE NCC to withdraw the relevant 
Russia registered IP address blocks, it appears that the RIPE NCC has 
reiterated their position on such disputes -
https://www.ripe.net/publications/news/announcements/ripe-ncc-executive-board-resolution-on-provision-of-critical-services

FYI,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers

On 1 Mar 2022, at 3:25 AM, Ryan Hamel 
mailto:administra...@rkhtech.org>> wrote:

It’s already spread to the news - 
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/ukraine-icann-russia-internet-runet-disconnection-1314278/

Ryan

From: NANOG 
mailto:nanog-bounces+ryan=rkhtech@nanog.org>>
 On Behalf Of George Herbert
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 12:17 AM
To: Nanog mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
Subject: Ukraine request yikes

Posted by Bill Woodcock on Twitter… 
https://twitter.com/woodyatpch/status/1498472865301098500?s=21

https://pastebin.com/DLbmYahS

Ukraine (I think I read as) want ICANN to turn root nameservers off, revoke 
address delegations, and turn off TLDs for Russia.

Seems… instability creating…


-george

Sent from my iPhone




Re: ICANN Response (Re: Ukraine request yikes)

2022-03-03 Thread Jason Kuehl
Yep, I completely agree. I also think if they had done anything else, it
would have been a reputation-ending.

On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 8:19 AM Jorge Amodio  wrote:

>
> I believe it is a proper response, besides that it is not right for ICANN
> to get in the middle of this type of conflict, in situations like this,
> increasing the flow of real information counters the flow of misinformation.
>
> -J
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 7:05 AM John Curran  wrote:
>
>> ICANN response request from the Ukraine regarding various DNS
>> interventions –
>> https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/marby-to-fedorov-02mar22-en.pdf
>>
>> FYI,
>> /John
>>
>> John Curran
>> President and CEO
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers
>>
>>
>> On 2 Mar 2022, at 1:01 AM, John Curran  wrote:
>>
>> Regarding the portion of the request to the RIPE NCC to withdraw the
>> relevant Russia registered IP address blocks, it appears that the RIPE NCC
>> has reiterated their position on such disputes -
>>
>>
>> https://www.ripe.net/publications/news/announcements/ripe-ncc-executive-board-resolution-on-provision-of-critical-services
>>
>>
>> FYI,
>> /John
>>
>> John Curran
>> President and CEO
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers
>>
>> On 1 Mar 2022, at 3:25 AM, Ryan Hamel  wrote:
>>
>> It’s already spread to the news -
>> https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/ukraine-icann-russia-internet-runet-disconnection-1314278/
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> *From:* NANOG  *On Behalf Of 
>> *George
>> Herbert
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 1, 2022 12:17 AM
>> *To:* Nanog 
>> *Subject:* Ukraine request yikes
>>
>> Posted by Bill Woodcock on Twitter…
>> https://twitter.com/woodyatpch/status/1498472865301098500?s=21
>>
>> https://pastebin.com/DLbmYahS
>>
>> Ukraine (I think I read as) want ICANN to turn root nameservers off,
>> revoke address delegations, and turn off TLDs for Russia.
>>
>> Seems… instability creating…
>>
>>
>> -george
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>

-- 
Sincerely,

Jason W Kuehl
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jason.w.ku...@gmail.com


Re: ICANN Response (Re: Ukraine request yikes)

2022-03-03 Thread Jorge Amodio
I believe it is a proper response, besides that it is not right for ICANN
to get in the middle of this type of conflict, in situations like this,
increasing the flow of real information counters the flow of misinformation.

-J

On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 7:05 AM John Curran  wrote:

> ICANN response request from the Ukraine regarding various DNS
> interventions –
> https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/marby-to-fedorov-02mar22-en.pdf
>
> FYI,
> /John
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers
>
>
> On 2 Mar 2022, at 1:01 AM, John Curran  wrote:
>
> Regarding the portion of the request to the RIPE NCC to withdraw the
> relevant Russia registered IP address blocks, it appears that the RIPE NCC
> has reiterated their position on such disputes -
>
>
> https://www.ripe.net/publications/news/announcements/ripe-ncc-executive-board-resolution-on-provision-of-critical-services
>
>
> FYI,
> /John
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers
>
> On 1 Mar 2022, at 3:25 AM, Ryan Hamel  wrote:
>
> It’s already spread to the news -
> https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/ukraine-icann-russia-internet-runet-disconnection-1314278/
>
> Ryan
>
> *From:* NANOG  *On Behalf Of *George
> Herbert
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 1, 2022 12:17 AM
> *To:* Nanog 
> *Subject:* Ukraine request yikes
>
> Posted by Bill Woodcock on Twitter…
> https://twitter.com/woodyatpch/status/1498472865301098500?s=21
>
> https://pastebin.com/DLbmYahS
>
> Ukraine (I think I read as) want ICANN to turn root nameservers off,
> revoke address delegations, and turn off TLDs for Russia.
>
> Seems… instability creating…
>
>
> -george
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>