Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

2015-08-28 Thread Mel Beckman
Blake,

There's no call to be blatantly offensive like that. 

-mel 

 On Aug 28, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Blake Dunlap iki...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll just leave this here
 
 https://honestnetworker.wordpress.com/2013/11/04/the-true-meaning-behind-most-rfos/
 
 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Jason Canady ja...@unlimitednet.us wrote:
 Mike, I would take it to mean someone screwed something up and they don't
 want to admit to it.  :-)  That's just a guess.
 
 --
 
 Jason Canady
 Unlimited Net, LLC
 Responsive, Reliable, Secure
 
 www.unlimitednet.us
 ja...@unlimitednet.us
 twitter: @unlimitednet
 
 
 On 8/28/15 12:00 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 
 08/28/2015 3:08 AM GMT
 Event Conclusion Summary
 
 Start: August 27, 2015 13:20 GMT
 Stop: August 28, 2015 00:00 GMT
 
 Root Cause: A protocol issue impacted IP services in multiple markets.
 Fix Action: Adjustments were made to clear the errors.
 
 Summary:
 The IP NOC began investigating the root cause with Tier III Technical
 Support. It was reported that the issue was causing packet loss for
 customers. Operations Engineering teams were engaged, and Field Services
 were dispatched to a site in Chicago, IL to assist with investigations.
 Troubleshooting identified a protocol issue, and Operations Engineering
 worked with Tier III Technical Support to perform adjustments on the links.
 It was confirmed that the errors cleared. The traffic load was also lowered
 on cards in Chicago to alleviate any further issues. Should any additional
 impact be experienced, please contact the Level 3 Technical Service Center.
 
 What the hell is a protocol issue?
 
 I'm not an idiot, you can tell me specifically what happened...
 
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Ryan Gelobter rya...@atwgpc.net
 To: Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 3:14:59 PM
 Subject: Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)
 
 If you have access to the Level3 portal you should see ticket #9639047
 under Network Events now.
 
 Event Summary:IP Network Event ~ Multiple Markets
 
 08/27/2015 8:05 PM GMT
 
 Level 3 Tier III and Operations Engineering teams have identified Internet
 Protocols dropping, affecting customer services. Restoration efforts are
 in progress, but an estimated time of restoral is not available at this
 time.
 
 08/27/2015 6:36 PM GMT
 
 IP and Transport Tier III, Operations Engineering and Field Services
 continue collaboratively working the issue.
 
 
 08/27/2015 4:59 PM GMT
 
 Operations Engineering is engaged and Field Services is on site in
 Chicago,
 IL investigating the issue.
 
 
 08/27/2015 4:38 PM GMT
 
 The engineers are currently migrating traffic in efforts of restoring
 services while troubleshooting continues. Field Services is being
 dispatched to a Chicago, IL site to assist.
 
 08/27/2015 4:21 PM GMT
 
 IP services are affected across multiple markets and the root cause is
 currently under investigation. The IP NOC and IP and Transport Tier III
 are
 actively troubleshooting and working to isolate the cause. The engineers
 have detected peering issues which are resulting in packet loss for
 customers. Please be advised that updates will be provided at minimum of
 hourly unless otherwise noted.
 


Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

2015-08-28 Thread Jason Canady
Mike, I would take it to mean someone screwed something up and they 
don't want to admit to it.  :-)  That's just a guess.


--

Jason Canady
Unlimited Net, LLC
Responsive, Reliable, Secure

www.unlimitednet.us
ja...@unlimitednet.us
twitter: @unlimitednet

On 8/28/15 12:00 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

08/28/2015 3:08 AM GMT
Event Conclusion Summary

Start: August 27, 2015 13:20 GMT
Stop: August 28, 2015 00:00 GMT

Root Cause: A protocol issue impacted IP services in multiple markets.
Fix Action: Adjustments were made to clear the errors.

Summary:
The IP NOC began investigating the root cause with Tier III Technical Support. 
It was reported that the issue was causing packet loss for customers. 
Operations Engineering teams were engaged, and Field Services were dispatched 
to a site in Chicago, IL to assist with investigations. Troubleshooting 
identified a protocol issue, and Operations Engineering worked with Tier III 
Technical Support to perform adjustments on the links. It was confirmed that 
the errors cleared. The traffic load was also lowered on cards in Chicago to 
alleviate any further issues. Should any additional impact be experienced, 
please contact the Level 3 Technical Service Center.

What the hell is a protocol issue?

I'm not an idiot, you can tell me specifically what happened...




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -

From: Ryan Gelobter rya...@atwgpc.net
To: Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org
Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 3:14:59 PM
Subject: Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

If you have access to the Level3 portal you should see ticket #9639047
under Network Events now.

Event Summary:IP Network Event ~ Multiple Markets

08/27/2015 8:05 PM GMT

Level 3 Tier III and Operations Engineering teams have identified Internet
Protocols dropping, affecting customer services. Restoration efforts are
in progress, but an estimated time of restoral is not available at this
time.

08/27/2015 6:36 PM GMT

IP and Transport Tier III, Operations Engineering and Field Services
continue collaboratively working the issue.


08/27/2015 4:59 PM GMT

Operations Engineering is engaged and Field Services is on site in Chicago,
IL investigating the issue.


08/27/2015 4:38 PM GMT

The engineers are currently migrating traffic in efforts of restoring
services while troubleshooting continues. Field Services is being
dispatched to a Chicago, IL site to assist.

08/27/2015 4:21 PM GMT

IP services are affected across multiple markets and the root cause is
currently under investigation. The IP NOC and IP and Transport Tier III are
actively troubleshooting and working to isolate the cause. The engineers
have detected peering issues which are resulting in packet loss for
customers. Please be advised that updates will be provided at minimum of
hourly unless otherwise noted.





Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

2015-08-28 Thread Blake Dunlap
I'll just leave this here

https://honestnetworker.wordpress.com/2013/11/04/the-true-meaning-behind-most-rfos/

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Jason Canady ja...@unlimitednet.us wrote:
 Mike, I would take it to mean someone screwed something up and they don't
 want to admit to it.  :-)  That's just a guess.

 --

 Jason Canady
 Unlimited Net, LLC
 Responsive, Reliable, Secure

 www.unlimitednet.us
 ja...@unlimitednet.us
 twitter: @unlimitednet


 On 8/28/15 12:00 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 08/28/2015 3:08 AM GMT
 Event Conclusion Summary

 Start: August 27, 2015 13:20 GMT
 Stop: August 28, 2015 00:00 GMT

 Root Cause: A protocol issue impacted IP services in multiple markets.
 Fix Action: Adjustments were made to clear the errors.

 Summary:
 The IP NOC began investigating the root cause with Tier III Technical
 Support. It was reported that the issue was causing packet loss for
 customers. Operations Engineering teams were engaged, and Field Services
 were dispatched to a site in Chicago, IL to assist with investigations.
 Troubleshooting identified a protocol issue, and Operations Engineering
 worked with Tier III Technical Support to perform adjustments on the links.
 It was confirmed that the errors cleared. The traffic load was also lowered
 on cards in Chicago to alleviate any further issues. Should any additional
 impact be experienced, please contact the Level 3 Technical Service Center.

 What the hell is a protocol issue?

 I'm not an idiot, you can tell me specifically what happened...




 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 - Original Message -

 From: Ryan Gelobter rya...@atwgpc.net
 To: Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 3:14:59 PM
 Subject: Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

 If you have access to the Level3 portal you should see ticket #9639047
 under Network Events now.

 Event Summary:IP Network Event ~ Multiple Markets

 08/27/2015 8:05 PM GMT

 Level 3 Tier III and Operations Engineering teams have identified Internet
 Protocols dropping, affecting customer services. Restoration efforts are
 in progress, but an estimated time of restoral is not available at this
 time.

 08/27/2015 6:36 PM GMT

 IP and Transport Tier III, Operations Engineering and Field Services
 continue collaboratively working the issue.


 08/27/2015 4:59 PM GMT

 Operations Engineering is engaged and Field Services is on site in
 Chicago,
 IL investigating the issue.


 08/27/2015 4:38 PM GMT

 The engineers are currently migrating traffic in efforts of restoring
 services while troubleshooting continues. Field Services is being
 dispatched to a Chicago, IL site to assist.

 08/27/2015 4:21 PM GMT

 IP services are affected across multiple markets and the root cause is
 currently under investigation. The IP NOC and IP and Transport Tier III
 are
 actively troubleshooting and working to isolate the cause. The engineers
 have detected peering issues which are resulting in packet loss for
 customers. Please be advised that updates will be provided at minimum of
 hourly unless otherwise noted.




Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

2015-08-28 Thread James Sink
Seemed reasonably accurate to me.


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On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org wrote:

 Blake,

 There's no call to be blatantly offensive like that.

 -mel

  On Aug 28, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Blake Dunlap iki...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I'll just leave this here
 
 
 https://honestnetworker.wordpress.com/2013/11/04/the-true-meaning-behind-most-rfos/
 
  On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Jason Canady ja...@unlimitednet.us
 wrote:
  Mike, I would take it to mean someone screwed something up and they
 don't
  want to admit to it.  :-)  That's just a guess.
 
  --
 
  Jason Canady
  Unlimited Net, LLC
  Responsive, Reliable, Secure
 
  www.unlimitednet.us
  ja...@unlimitednet.us
  twitter: @unlimitednet
 
 
  On 8/28/15 12:00 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 
  08/28/2015 3:08 AM GMT
  Event Conclusion Summary
 
  Start: August 27, 2015 13:20 GMT
  Stop: August 28, 2015 00:00 GMT
 
  Root Cause: A protocol issue impacted IP services in multiple markets.
  Fix Action: Adjustments were made to clear the errors.
 
  Summary:
  The IP NOC began investigating the root cause with Tier III Technical
  Support. It was reported that the issue was causing packet loss for
  customers. Operations Engineering teams were engaged, and Field
 Services
  were dispatched to a site in Chicago, IL to assist with investigations.
  Troubleshooting identified a protocol issue, and Operations Engineering
  worked with Tier III Technical Support to perform adjustments on the
 links.
  It was confirmed that the errors cleared. The traffic load was also
 lowered
  on cards in Chicago to alleviate any further issues. Should any
 additional
  impact be experienced, please contact the Level 3 Technical Service
 Center.
 
  What the hell is a protocol issue?
 
  I'm not an idiot, you can tell me specifically what happened...
 
 
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
  - Original Message -
 
  From: Ryan Gelobter rya...@atwgpc.net
  To: Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org
  Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 3:14:59 PM
  Subject: Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)
 
  If you have access to the Level3 portal you should see ticket #9639047
  under Network Events now.
 
  Event Summary:IP Network Event ~ Multiple Markets
 
  08/27/2015 8:05 PM GMT
 
  Level 3 Tier III and Operations Engineering teams have identified
 Internet
  Protocols dropping, affecting customer services. Restoration efforts
 are
  in progress, but an estimated time of restoral is not available at this
  time.
 
  08/27/2015 6:36 PM GMT
 
  IP and Transport Tier III, Operations Engineering and Field Services
  continue collaboratively working the issue.
 
 
  08/27/2015 4:59 PM GMT
 
  Operations Engineering is engaged and Field Services is on site in
  Chicago,
  IL investigating the issue.
 
 
  08/27/2015 4:38 PM GMT
 
  The engineers are currently migrating traffic in efforts of restoring
  services while troubleshooting continues. Field Services is being
  dispatched to a Chicago, IL site to assist.
 
  08/27/2015 4:21 PM GMT
 
  IP services are affected across multiple markets and the root cause is
  currently under investigation. The IP NOC and IP and Transport Tier III
  are
  actively troubleshooting and working to isolate the cause. The
 engineers
  have detected peering issues which are resulting in packet loss for
  customers. Please be advised that updates will be provided at minimum
 of
  hourly unless otherwise noted.
 



Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

2015-08-28 Thread chris
ill just leave this here :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Blake Dunlap iki...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'll just leave this here


 https://honestnetworker.wordpress.com/2013/11/04/the-true-meaning-behind-most-rfos/

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Jason Canady ja...@unlimitednet.us
 wrote:
  Mike, I would take it to mean someone screwed something up and they don't
  want to admit to it.  :-)  That's just a guess.
 
  --
 
  Jason Canady
  Unlimited Net, LLC
  Responsive, Reliable, Secure
 
  www.unlimitednet.us
  ja...@unlimitednet.us
  twitter: @unlimitednet
 
 
  On 8/28/15 12:00 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 
  08/28/2015 3:08 AM GMT
  Event Conclusion Summary
 
  Start: August 27, 2015 13:20 GMT
  Stop: August 28, 2015 00:00 GMT
 
  Root Cause: A protocol issue impacted IP services in multiple markets.
  Fix Action: Adjustments were made to clear the errors.
 
  Summary:
  The IP NOC began investigating the root cause with Tier III Technical
  Support. It was reported that the issue was causing packet loss for
  customers. Operations Engineering teams were engaged, and Field Services
  were dispatched to a site in Chicago, IL to assist with investigations.
  Troubleshooting identified a protocol issue, and Operations Engineering
  worked with Tier III Technical Support to perform adjustments on the
 links.
  It was confirmed that the errors cleared. The traffic load was also
 lowered
  on cards in Chicago to alleviate any further issues. Should any
 additional
  impact be experienced, please contact the Level 3 Technical Service
 Center.
 
  What the hell is a protocol issue?
 
  I'm not an idiot, you can tell me specifically what happened...
 
 
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
  - Original Message -
 
  From: Ryan Gelobter rya...@atwgpc.net
  To: Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org
  Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 3:14:59 PM
  Subject: Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)
 
  If you have access to the Level3 portal you should see ticket #9639047
  under Network Events now.
 
  Event Summary:IP Network Event ~ Multiple Markets
 
  08/27/2015 8:05 PM GMT
 
  Level 3 Tier III and Operations Engineering teams have identified
 Internet
  Protocols dropping, affecting customer services. Restoration efforts are
  in progress, but an estimated time of restoral is not available at this
  time.
 
  08/27/2015 6:36 PM GMT
 
  IP and Transport Tier III, Operations Engineering and Field Services
  continue collaboratively working the issue.
 
 
  08/27/2015 4:59 PM GMT
 
  Operations Engineering is engaged and Field Services is on site in
  Chicago,
  IL investigating the issue.
 
 
  08/27/2015 4:38 PM GMT
 
  The engineers are currently migrating traffic in efforts of restoring
  services while troubleshooting continues. Field Services is being
  dispatched to a Chicago, IL site to assist.
 
  08/27/2015 4:21 PM GMT
 
  IP services are affected across multiple markets and the root cause is
  currently under investigation. The IP NOC and IP and Transport Tier III
  are
  actively troubleshooting and working to isolate the cause. The engineers
  have detected peering issues which are resulting in packet loss for
  customers. Please be advised that updates will be provided at minimum of
  hourly unless otherwise noted.
 
 



Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

2015-08-28 Thread chris
This reminded me of this great clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckIMuvumYrg

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net wrote:

 08/28/2015 3:08 AM GMT
 Event Conclusion Summary

 Start: August 27, 2015 13:20 GMT
 Stop: August 28, 2015 00:00 GMT

 Root Cause: A protocol issue impacted IP services in multiple markets.
 Fix Action: Adjustments were made to clear the errors.

 Summary:
 The IP NOC began investigating the root cause with Tier III Technical
 Support. It was reported that the issue was causing packet loss for
 customers. Operations Engineering teams were engaged, and Field Services
 were dispatched to a site in Chicago, IL to assist with investigations.
 Troubleshooting identified a protocol issue, and Operations Engineering
 worked with Tier III Technical Support to perform adjustments on the links.
 It was confirmed that the errors cleared. The traffic load was also lowered
 on cards in Chicago to alleviate any further issues. Should any additional
 impact be experienced, please contact the Level 3 Technical Service Center.

 What the hell is a protocol issue?

 I'm not an idiot, you can tell me specifically what happened...




 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 - Original Message -

 From: Ryan Gelobter rya...@atwgpc.net
 To: Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 3:14:59 PM
 Subject: Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

 If you have access to the Level3 portal you should see ticket #9639047
 under Network Events now.

 Event Summary:IP Network Event ~ Multiple Markets

 08/27/2015 8:05 PM GMT

 Level 3 Tier III and Operations Engineering teams have identified Internet
 Protocols dropping, affecting customer services. Restoration efforts are
 in progress, but an estimated time of restoral is not available at this
 time.

 08/27/2015 6:36 PM GMT

 IP and Transport Tier III, Operations Engineering and Field Services
 continue collaboratively working the issue.


 08/27/2015 4:59 PM GMT

 Operations Engineering is engaged and Field Services is on site in Chicago,
 IL investigating the issue.


 08/27/2015 4:38 PM GMT

 The engineers are currently migrating traffic in efforts of restoring
 services while troubleshooting continues. Field Services is being
 dispatched to a Chicago, IL site to assist.

 08/27/2015 4:21 PM GMT

 IP services are affected across multiple markets and the root cause is
 currently under investigation. The IP NOC and IP and Transport Tier III are
 actively troubleshooting and working to isolate the cause. The engineers
 have detected peering issues which are resulting in packet loss for
 customers. Please be advised that updates will be provided at minimum of
 hourly unless otherwise noted.




Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

2015-08-28 Thread Randy

On 8/27/2015 11:00 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

08/28/2015 3:08 AM GMT
Event Conclusion Summary

Start: August 27, 2015 13:20 GMT
Stop: August 28, 2015 00:00 GMT

Root Cause: A protocol issue impacted IP services in multiple markets.
Fix Action: Adjustments were made to clear the errors.

Summary:
The IP NOC began investigating the root cause with Tier III Technical Support. 
It was reported that the issue was causing packet loss for customers. 
Operations Engineering teams were engaged, and Field Services were dispatched 
to a site in Chicago, IL to assist with investigations. Troubleshooting 
identified a protocol issue, and Operations Engineering worked with Tier III 
Technical Support to perform adjustments on the links. It was confirmed that 
the errors cleared. The traffic load was also lowered on cards in Chicago to 
alleviate any further issues. Should any additional impact be experienced, 
please contact the Level 3 Technical Service Center.

What the hell is a protocol issue?

I'm not an idiot, you can tell me specifically what happened...
I was having major issues yesterday. It wasn't with all traffic, and its 
seemed to have cleared up now.
I did do packet inspections, and I kept getting ethernet frame check 
errors from certain sources.
vast majority of packets did not have this extra data appended to the 
tcp portion of packet, and I think that is likely the reason for the 
issues, since those packets are supposed to be dropped if there is a 
checksum error. I'm by no means an expert, just voicing what I was seeing.






-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -

From: Ryan Gelobter rya...@atwgpc.net
To: Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org
Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 3:14:59 PM
Subject: Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

If you have access to the Level3 portal you should see ticket #9639047
under Network Events now.

Event Summary:IP Network Event ~ Multiple Markets

08/27/2015 8:05 PM GMT

Level 3 Tier III and Operations Engineering teams have identified Internet
Protocols dropping, affecting customer services. Restoration efforts are
in progress, but an estimated time of restoral is not available at this
time.

08/27/2015 6:36 PM GMT

IP and Transport Tier III, Operations Engineering and Field Services
continue collaboratively working the issue.


08/27/2015 4:59 PM GMT

Operations Engineering is engaged and Field Services is on site in Chicago,
IL investigating the issue.


08/27/2015 4:38 PM GMT

The engineers are currently migrating traffic in efforts of restoring
services while troubleshooting continues. Field Services is being
dispatched to a Chicago, IL site to assist.

08/27/2015 4:21 PM GMT

IP services are affected across multiple markets and the root cause is
currently under investigation. The IP NOC and IP and Transport Tier III are
actively troubleshooting and working to isolate the cause. The engineers
have detected peering issues which are resulting in packet loss for
customers. Please be advised that updates will be provided at minimum of
hourly unless otherwise noted.





Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

2015-08-28 Thread Paras

Personally I thought it was funny

I don't think it was meant to come across as offensive

On 8/28/2015 11:45 AM, Mel Beckman wrote:

Blake,

There's no call to be blatantly offensive like that.

-mel


On Aug 28, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Blake Dunlap iki...@gmail.com wrote:

I'll just leave this here

https://honestnetworker.wordpress.com/2013/11/04/the-true-meaning-behind-most-rfos/


On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Jason Canady ja...@unlimitednet.us wrote:
Mike, I would take it to mean someone screwed something up and they don't
want to admit to it.  :-)  That's just a guess.

--

Jason Canady
Unlimited Net, LLC
Responsive, Reliable, Secure

www.unlimitednet.us
ja...@unlimitednet.us
twitter: @unlimitednet



On 8/28/15 12:00 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

08/28/2015 3:08 AM GMT
Event Conclusion Summary

Start: August 27, 2015 13:20 GMT
Stop: August 28, 2015 00:00 GMT

Root Cause: A protocol issue impacted IP services in multiple markets.
Fix Action: Adjustments were made to clear the errors.

Summary:
The IP NOC began investigating the root cause with Tier III Technical
Support. It was reported that the issue was causing packet loss for
customers. Operations Engineering teams were engaged, and Field Services
were dispatched to a site in Chicago, IL to assist with investigations.
Troubleshooting identified a protocol issue, and Operations Engineering
worked with Tier III Technical Support to perform adjustments on the links.
It was confirmed that the errors cleared. The traffic load was also lowered
on cards in Chicago to alleviate any further issues. Should any additional
impact be experienced, please contact the Level 3 Technical Service Center.

What the hell is a protocol issue?

I'm not an idiot, you can tell me specifically what happened...




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -

From: Ryan Gelobter rya...@atwgpc.net
To: Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org
Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 3:14:59 PM
Subject: Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

If you have access to the Level3 portal you should see ticket #9639047
under Network Events now.

Event Summary:IP Network Event ~ Multiple Markets

08/27/2015 8:05 PM GMT

Level 3 Tier III and Operations Engineering teams have identified Internet
Protocols dropping, affecting customer services. Restoration efforts are
in progress, but an estimated time of restoral is not available at this
time.

08/27/2015 6:36 PM GMT

IP and Transport Tier III, Operations Engineering and Field Services
continue collaboratively working the issue.


08/27/2015 4:59 PM GMT

Operations Engineering is engaged and Field Services is on site in
Chicago,
IL investigating the issue.


08/27/2015 4:38 PM GMT

The engineers are currently migrating traffic in efforts of restoring
services while troubleshooting continues. Field Services is being
dispatched to a Chicago, IL site to assist.

08/27/2015 4:21 PM GMT

IP services are affected across multiple markets and the root cause is
currently under investigation. The IP NOC and IP and Transport Tier III
are
actively troubleshooting and working to isolate the cause. The engineers
have detected peering issues which are resulting in packet loss for
customers. Please be advised that updates will be provided at minimum of
hourly unless otherwise noted.





Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

2015-08-28 Thread Mel Beckman
Randy,

Frame Check Sequence errors are not a problem if you are capturing your packets 
from an endpoint system such as a PC participating in communications. Modern 
network cards do checksum offloading, so the FCS is calculated and applied by 
the NIC instead of by the OS. If you're capturing on one of the endpoints, 
Wireshark will see frames transmitted by that endpoint machine before the NIC 
inserts a correct FCS.

If communication succeeds (e.g., you see replies to pings), then there is not 
really an FCS error. If the FCS really was incorrect, the NIC would have 
discarded them, and you wouldn't see replies.

It's best to capture directly from the wire (for example, from a switch span 
port or a network tap) rather than an endpoint involved in the communication.

-mel

On Aug 28, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Randy na...@afxr.netmailto:na...@afxr.net 
wrote:

On 8/27/2015 11:00 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
08/28/2015 3:08 AM GMT
Event Conclusion Summary

Start: August 27, 2015 13:20 GMT
Stop: August 28, 2015 00:00 GMT

Root Cause: A protocol issue impacted IP services in multiple markets.
Fix Action: Adjustments were made to clear the errors.

Summary:
The IP NOC began investigating the root cause with Tier III Technical Support. 
It was reported that the issue was causing packet loss for customers. 
Operations Engineering teams were engaged, and Field Services were dispatched 
to a site in Chicago, IL to assist with investigations. Troubleshooting 
identified a protocol issue, and Operations Engineering worked with Tier III 
Technical Support to perform adjustments on the links. It was confirmed that 
the errors cleared. The traffic load was also lowered on cards in Chicago to 
alleviate any further issues. Should any additional impact be experienced, 
please contact the Level 3 Technical Service Center.

What the hell is a protocol issue?

I'm not an idiot, you can tell me specifically what happened...
I was having major issues yesterday. It wasn't with all traffic, and its seemed 
to have cleared up now.
I did do packet inspections, and I kept getting ethernet frame check errors 
from certain sources.
vast majority of packets did not have this extra data appended to the tcp 
portion of packet, and I think that is likely the reason for the issues, since 
those packets are supposed to be dropped if there is a checksum error. I'm by 
no means an expert, just voicing what I was seeing.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -

From: Ryan Gelobter rya...@atwgpc.netmailto:rya...@atwgpc.net
To: Mel Beckman m...@beckman.orgmailto:m...@beckman.org
Cc: nanog@nanog.orgmailto:nanog@nanog.org 
nanog@nanog.orgmailto:nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 3:14:59 PM
Subject: Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

If you have access to the Level3 portal you should see ticket #9639047
under Network Events now.

Event Summary:IP Network Event ~ Multiple Markets

08/27/2015 8:05 PM GMT

Level 3 Tier III and Operations Engineering teams have identified Internet
Protocols dropping, affecting customer services. Restoration efforts are
in progress, but an estimated time of restoral is not available at this
time.

08/27/2015 6:36 PM GMT

IP and Transport Tier III, Operations Engineering and Field Services
continue collaboratively working the issue.


08/27/2015 4:59 PM GMT

Operations Engineering is engaged and Field Services is on site in Chicago,
IL investigating the issue.


08/27/2015 4:38 PM GMT

The engineers are currently migrating traffic in efforts of restoring
services while troubleshooting continues. Field Services is being
dispatched to a Chicago, IL site to assist.

08/27/2015 4:21 PM GMT

IP services are affected across multiple markets and the root cause is
currently under investigation. The IP NOC and IP and Transport Tier III are
actively troubleshooting and working to isolate the cause. The engineers
have detected peering issues which are resulting in packet loss for
customers. Please be advised that updates will be provided at minimum of
hourly unless otherwise noted.




Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

2015-08-27 Thread Mel Beckman
Finally got a call back from the Level3 NOC. There is a global ticket for this, 
#ST1878748. This is a wide-ranging outage effecting the entire Level3 network. 
I am supposed to get emailed updates now automatically, and will reflect those 
here.

 -mel


 On Aug 26, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org wrote:
 
 We continue to see 10 to 20 percent packet loss crossing TW border and even 
 between clients in the same region (e.g. LA and Santa Barbara). No news from 
 the NOC yet.
 
 -mel
 
 
 From: NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org on behalf of Jason Hellenthal 
 jhellent...@dataix.net
 Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 5:33 PM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)
 
 Cleared up here in WI TW/Level3 COLO between 19:00 - 19:20 CST - 3235 
 Intertech Dr. Brookfield
 
 On Aug 26, 2015, at 16:44, Ryan K. Brooks r...@hack.net wrote:
 
 Seems to be impacting their entire network now.
 
 On 8/26/15 4:41 PM, Rafael Possamai wrote:
 I have been seeing the same issues, but haven't heard anything back yet. It 
 has improved in the last 30 minutes or so, see below.
 
 
 http://imgur.com/KVAzetA
 *
 *
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Ryan K. Brooks r...@hack.net 
 mailto:r...@hack.net wrote:
 
   Seeing packet loss on AS4323 since 2:30 Central time.   NOC is
   unresponsive to phone and email.  Anyone have an idea what's going
   on over there?
 
 
 
 
 
 --
 Jason Hellenthal
 JJH48-ARIN
 
 
 
 



Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

2015-08-27 Thread Ryan Gelobter
If you have access to the Level3 portal you should see ticket #9639047
under Network Events now.

Event Summary:IP Network Event ~ Multiple Markets

08/27/2015 8:05 PM GMT

Level 3 Tier III and Operations Engineering teams have identified Internet
Protocols dropping, affecting customer services.  Restoration efforts are
in progress, but an estimated time of restoral is not available at this
time.

08/27/2015 6:36 PM GMT

IP and Transport Tier III, Operations Engineering and Field Services
continue collaboratively working the issue.


08/27/2015 4:59 PM GMT

Operations Engineering is engaged and Field Services is on site in Chicago,
IL investigating the issue.


08/27/2015 4:38 PM GMT

The engineers are currently migrating traffic in efforts of restoring
services while troubleshooting continues. Field Services is being
dispatched to a Chicago, IL site to assist.

08/27/2015 4:21 PM GMT

IP services are affected across multiple markets and the root cause is
currently under investigation. The IP NOC and IP and Transport Tier III are
actively troubleshooting and working to isolate the cause. The engineers
have detected peering issues which are resulting in packet loss for
customers. Please be advised that updates will be provided at minimum of
hourly unless otherwise noted.


Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

2015-08-27 Thread Mike Hammett
08/28/2015 3:08 AM GMT 
Event Conclusion Summary 

Start: August 27, 2015 13:20 GMT 
Stop: August 28, 2015 00:00 GMT 

Root Cause: A protocol issue impacted IP services in multiple markets. 
Fix Action: Adjustments were made to clear the errors. 

Summary: 
The IP NOC began investigating the root cause with Tier III Technical Support. 
It was reported that the issue was causing packet loss for customers. 
Operations Engineering teams were engaged, and Field Services were dispatched 
to a site in Chicago, IL to assist with investigations. Troubleshooting 
identified a protocol issue, and Operations Engineering worked with Tier III 
Technical Support to perform adjustments on the links. It was confirmed that 
the errors cleared. The traffic load was also lowered on cards in Chicago to 
alleviate any further issues. Should any additional impact be experienced, 
please contact the Level 3 Technical Service Center. 

What the hell is a protocol issue? 

I'm not an idiot, you can tell me specifically what happened... 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Ryan Gelobter rya...@atwgpc.net 
To: Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 3:14:59 PM 
Subject: Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323) 

If you have access to the Level3 portal you should see ticket #9639047 
under Network Events now. 

Event Summary:IP Network Event ~ Multiple Markets 

08/27/2015 8:05 PM GMT 

Level 3 Tier III and Operations Engineering teams have identified Internet 
Protocols dropping, affecting customer services. Restoration efforts are 
in progress, but an estimated time of restoral is not available at this 
time. 

08/27/2015 6:36 PM GMT 

IP and Transport Tier III, Operations Engineering and Field Services 
continue collaboratively working the issue. 


08/27/2015 4:59 PM GMT 

Operations Engineering is engaged and Field Services is on site in Chicago, 
IL investigating the issue. 


08/27/2015 4:38 PM GMT 

The engineers are currently migrating traffic in efforts of restoring 
services while troubleshooting continues. Field Services is being 
dispatched to a Chicago, IL site to assist. 

08/27/2015 4:21 PM GMT 

IP services are affected across multiple markets and the root cause is 
currently under investigation. The IP NOC and IP and Transport Tier III are 
actively troubleshooting and working to isolate the cause. The engineers 
have detected peering issues which are resulting in packet loss for 
customers. Please be advised that updates will be provided at minimum of 
hourly unless otherwise noted. 



Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

2015-08-26 Thread Rafael Possamai
I have been seeing the same issues, but haven't heard anything back yet. It
has improved in the last 30 minutes or so, see below.


http://imgur.com/KVAzetA



On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Ryan K. Brooks r...@hack.net wrote:

 Seeing packet loss on AS4323 since 2:30 Central time.   NOC is
 unresponsive to phone and email.  Anyone have an idea what's going on over
 there?



Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

2015-08-26 Thread Ryan K. Brooks

Seems to be impacting their entire network now.

On 8/26/15 4:41 PM, Rafael Possamai wrote:
I have been seeing the same issues, but haven't heard anything back 
yet. It has improved in the last 30 minutes or so, see below.



http://imgur.com/KVAzetA
*
*


On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Ryan K. Brooks r...@hack.net 
mailto:r...@hack.net wrote:


Seeing packet loss on AS4323 since 2:30 Central time.   NOC is
unresponsive to phone and email.  Anyone have an idea what's going
on over there?






Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

2015-08-26 Thread Jason Hellenthal
Cleared up here in WI TW/Level3 COLO between 19:00 - 19:20 CST - 3235 Intertech 
Dr. Brookfield

 On Aug 26, 2015, at 16:44, Ryan K. Brooks r...@hack.net wrote:
 
 Seems to be impacting their entire network now.
 
 On 8/26/15 4:41 PM, Rafael Possamai wrote:
 I have been seeing the same issues, but haven't heard anything back yet. It 
 has improved in the last 30 minutes or so, see below.
 
 
 http://imgur.com/KVAzetA
 *
 *
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Ryan K. Brooks r...@hack.net 
 mailto:r...@hack.net wrote:
 
Seeing packet loss on AS4323 since 2:30 Central time.   NOC is
unresponsive to phone and email.  Anyone have an idea what's going
on over there?
 
 
 


--
 Jason Hellenthal
 JJH48-ARIN






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Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

2015-08-26 Thread Mel Beckman
We continue to see 10 to 20 percent packet loss crossing TW border and even 
between clients in the same region (e.g. LA and Santa Barbara). No news from 
the NOC yet.

 -mel


From: NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org on behalf of Jason Hellenthal 
jhellent...@dataix.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 5:33 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Level(3) ex-twtelecom midwest packet loss (4323)

Cleared up here in WI TW/Level3 COLO between 19:00 - 19:20 CST - 3235 Intertech 
Dr. Brookfield

 On Aug 26, 2015, at 16:44, Ryan K. Brooks r...@hack.net wrote:

 Seems to be impacting their entire network now.

 On 8/26/15 4:41 PM, Rafael Possamai wrote:
 I have been seeing the same issues, but haven't heard anything back yet. It 
 has improved in the last 30 minutes or so, see below.


 http://imgur.com/KVAzetA
 *
 *


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Ryan K. Brooks r...@hack.net 
 mailto:r...@hack.net wrote:

Seeing packet loss on AS4323 since 2:30 Central time.   NOC is
unresponsive to phone and email.  Anyone have an idea what's going
on over there?





--
 Jason Hellenthal
 JJH48-ARIN