Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed
My company Free Range Cloud (freerangecloud.com) offers BGP sessions. Port 25 is blocked by default, but can be unblocked by opening a support ticket and previsioning justification for the request. On 2023-09-26 03:09, Daniel Corbe wrote: Hey all, I apologize if this isn't the right place to post this; however, I thought maybe the NANOG community would be able to point me in the right direction. I'm looking for a place that I can host a mailer. My primary use case is a Mailman-style technical discussion list; much like NANOG but software related instead of network related: READ: non-commercial in nature. I'm currently a vultr customer, but they're refusing to unblock port 25 on my account. I've tried explaining my use case but no matter who I talk to over there they just keep pointing me to their spam policy. Thanks! -Daniel
RE: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed
Unfortunately, Racknerd provides a majority of their services using a dedicated server hosting company (Colo Crossing) that is known for harboring spam and other malicious activity, so their IP space is generally either blacklisted, of very poor reputation, or in many cases, completely dropped at firewalls. Case in point, your message that originated from one of these IPs tripped up my workstation's local spam filtering plugin from ESET. V/r Tim -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Tony Wicks Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 1:39 PM To: 'Daniel Corbe' ; nanog@nanog.org Subject: [SPAM] RE: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed I can't speak to the bgp feed as this seems like unnecessary complication to me, but I use https://www.racknerd.com/ for personal email/web hosting KVM VM's and have found them to be excellent. They have yearly black Friday specials (last years - https://www.racknerd.com/BlackFriday/ ) that are very attractive. They don't block any ports on their US/Europe VM's. I use a primary pair in one city and rsync everything to a backup pair in another city (as well as home just to make sure). Not all cities can get V6 but most do. -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Daniel Corbe Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 11:09 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed Hey all, I apologize if this isn't the right place to post this; however, I thought maybe the NANOG community would be able to point me in the right direction. I'm looking for a place that I can host a mailer. My primary use case is a Mailman-style technical discussion list; much like NANOG but software related instead of network related: READ: non-commercial in nature. I'm currently a vultr customer, but they're refusing to unblock port 25 on my account. I've tried explaining my use case but no matter who I talk to over there they just keep pointing me to their spam policy. Thanks! -Daniel
RE: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed
Oh, well that's fair enough then. Most engineers I know have sold off the goldmine that is historic IP blocks at this point. I'd doubt there is much advantage in using your own at this point though with Google moving to their highly annoying reputation based blocking. So having no email coming from an IP is almost as bad as having spam coming from other IP's in the block. They will "spam folder" email from fresh IP's until enough users "mark as not spam". I've taken to spending an hour or two replying to my own emails and "marking as not spam" if I change IP on an email host and it clears up eventually. Microsoft can randomly block at any time but reporting it here - https://olcsupport.office.com/ generally gets a human in a day or two that manually whitelists the IP. Google and V6 has been a total nightmare as they just randomly hard block for no reason and there is no way to ever have any human fix it (after ensuring all their guidelines are followed) so I've given up trying to use V6 to send email to google. -Original Message- From: Mel Beckman Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2023 7:51 AM To: Tony Wicks Cc: Daniel Corbe ; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed Tony, BGP is helpful for email servers if you own your own clean IP space, because much cloud IP space is black listed. -mel via cell
Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed
I’ve had great luck with Netactuate. Their pricing is decent, but not super cheap, but they provide excellent customer service and are very friendly and responsive. Their network is also top notch and trouble free. Owen > On Sep 26, 2023, at 11:50, Mel Beckman wrote: > > Tony, > > BGP is helpful for email servers if you own your own clean IP space, because > much cloud IP space is black listed. > > -mel via cell > >> On Sep 26, 2023, at 11:41 AM, Tony Wicks wrote: >> >> I can't speak to the bgp feed as this seems like unnecessary complication >> to me, but I use https://www.racknerd.com/ for personal email/web hosting >> KVM VM's and have found them to be excellent. They have yearly black Friday >> specials (last years - https://www.racknerd.com/BlackFriday/ ) that are very >> attractive. They don't block any ports on their US/Europe VM's. I use a >> primary pair in one city and rsync everything to a backup pair in another >> city (as well as home just to make sure). Not all cities can get V6 but most >> do. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: NANOG On Behalf Of Daniel >> Corbe >> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 11:09 PM >> To: nanog@nanog.org >> Subject: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed >> >> Hey all, >> >> I apologize if this isn't the right place to post this; however, I thought >> maybe the NANOG community would be able to point me in the right direction. >> >> I'm looking for a place that I can host a mailer. My primary use case is a >> Mailman-style technical discussion list; much like NANOG but software >> related instead of network related: READ: non-commercial in nature. >> >> I'm currently a vultr customer, but they're refusing to unblock port 25 on >> my account. I've tried explaining my use case but no matter who I talk to >> over there they just keep pointing me to their spam policy. >> >> Thanks! >> -Daniel >>
Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed
Tony, BGP is helpful for email servers if you own your own clean IP space, because much cloud IP space is black listed. -mel via cell > On Sep 26, 2023, at 11:41 AM, Tony Wicks wrote: > > I can't speak to the bgp feed as this seems like unnecessary complication to > me, but I use https://www.racknerd.com/ for personal email/web hosting KVM > VM's and have found them to be excellent. They have yearly black Friday > specials (last years - https://www.racknerd.com/BlackFriday/ ) that are very > attractive. They don't block any ports on their US/Europe VM's. I use a > primary pair in one city and rsync everything to a backup pair in another > city (as well as home just to make sure). Not all cities can get V6 but most > do. > > > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG On Behalf Of Daniel > Corbe > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 11:09 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed > > Hey all, > > I apologize if this isn't the right place to post this; however, I thought > maybe the NANOG community would be able to point me in the right direction. > > I'm looking for a place that I can host a mailer. My primary use case is a > Mailman-style technical discussion list; much like NANOG but software related > instead of network related: READ: non-commercial in nature. > > I'm currently a vultr customer, but they're refusing to unblock port 25 on my > account. I've tried explaining my use case but no matter who I talk to over > there they just keep pointing me to their spam policy. > > Thanks! > -Daniel >
RE: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed
I can't speak to the bgp feed as this seems like unnecessary complication to me, but I use https://www.racknerd.com/ for personal email/web hosting KVM VM's and have found them to be excellent. They have yearly black Friday specials (last years - https://www.racknerd.com/BlackFriday/ ) that are very attractive. They don't block any ports on their US/Europe VM's. I use a primary pair in one city and rsync everything to a backup pair in another city (as well as home just to make sure). Not all cities can get V6 but most do. -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Daniel Corbe Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 11:09 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed Hey all, I apologize if this isn't the right place to post this; however, I thought maybe the NANOG community would be able to point me in the right direction. I'm looking for a place that I can host a mailer. My primary use case is a Mailman-style technical discussion list; much like NANOG but software related instead of network related: READ: non-commercial in nature. I'm currently a vultr customer, but they're refusing to unblock port 25 on my account. I've tried explaining my use case but no matter who I talk to over there they just keep pointing me to their spam policy. Thanks! -Daniel
Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed
That is extremely good and important advice! It seemed much less pertinent back when I was in my 30's, but planning for the unexpected is, or should be, a key part of all our jobs. Jim Shankland On 9/26/23 10:01 AM, Mel Beckman wrote: One thing you should consider about running a "family" mail server (or any other IT services for friends and family): that you have a clearly documented path of management succession. A dear friend of mine passed away last year and was running just such an email server. Nobody really knew how to get into it for maintenance, and a couple weeks after he passed. it crashed, and none of us knew precisely where it was physically located (on the end of a VPN tunnel, it tuns out). This took down email for 100 of his closest friends and family members for several weeks. We couldn't even unlock the domain, Personally, this has spurred me to create much better documentation of my own client services, and to involve a successor unlikely to be traveling with me -mel *From:* NANOG on behalf of Jim Shankland via NANOG *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2023 9:46 AM *To:* nanog@nanog.org *Subject:* Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed I've been using Linode, also; works fine on the Linode end, but I still see occasional rejections based on my Linode IP address (most recently from outlook.com). It's nothing my specific IP is doing, but appears to be blacklisting of an address range. And gmail randomly puts some outgoing mail into recipients' spam folders. Trying to get an address unblocked by a major provider works almost as well as howling into the wind. Maybe I'm being stubborn to insist on continuing to run what's basically a family mail server, but it does seem like there's a matter of principle there: it should be possible to have an email account without having all the emails stored by a third party. If the answer ends up being, "Oh, just use gmail, everybody else does!" ... well, so be it, I guess, but we should be clear that something got lost in that transition. Jim Shankland On 9/26/23 9:10 AM, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: > I've run a mail server on Linode for 6 or 7 years now; no technical problems. > > End-node, Zimbra, postfix. > > Cheers, > -- jra > > - Original Message - >> From: "Jonathan Leist via NANOG" >> To: "Daniel Corbe" >> Cc: nanog@nanog.org >> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 10:32:51 AM >> Subject: Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed >> Pretty much every popular provider blocks port 25 out by default, and >> they'll instead try to steer customers to use a smart host. However, some, >> including Linode, will unblock port 25 by request: >> https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/running-a-mail-server/#sending-email-on-linode >> >> On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 6:11 AM Daniel Corbe wrote: >> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> I apologize if this isn't the right place to post this; however, I >>> thought maybe the NANOG community would be able to point me in the right >>> direction. >>> >>> I'm looking for a place that I can host a mailer. My primary use case >>> is a Mailman-style technical discussion list; much like NANOG but >>> software related instead of network related: READ: non-commercial in >>> nature. >>> >>> I'm currently a vultr customer, but they're refusing to unblock port 25 >>> on my account. I've tried explaining my use case but no matter who I >>> talk to over there they just keep pointing me to their spam policy. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> -Daniel >>> >> >> -- >> Jonathan Leist >> Staff Engineer
Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed
Once upon a time, Grant Taylor said: > N.B. you will need to tweak IPv6 routing to favor the new dedicated > /64 over the shared /64. Yeah, it appears Linode implements the dedicated /64 by routing it to the shared /64 address, so you can't just remove the shared /64. And unfortunately, for Linux distributions that use NetworkManager (which is probably most current releases), NM changed which v6 address is "preferred" at one point; in old versions, it was the last specified address, but then it changed to the first specified address (which probably makes more sense but was still an annoying change). -- Chris Adams
Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed
One thing you should consider about running a "family" mail server (or any other IT services for friends and family): that you have a clearly documented path of management succession. A dear friend of mine passed away last year and was running just such an email server. Nobody really knew how to get into it for maintenance, and a couple weeks after he passed. it crashed, and none of us knew precisely where it was physically located (on the end of a VPN tunnel, it tuns out). This took down email for 100 of his closest friends and family members for several weeks. We couldn't even unlock the domain, Personally, this has spurred me to create much better documentation of my own client services, and to involve a successor unlikely to be traveling with me -mel From: NANOG on behalf of Jim Shankland via NANOG Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 9:46 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed I've been using Linode, also; works fine on the Linode end, but I still see occasional rejections based on my Linode IP address (most recently from outlook.com). It's nothing my specific IP is doing, but appears to be blacklisting of an address range. And gmail randomly puts some outgoing mail into recipients' spam folders. Trying to get an address unblocked by a major provider works almost as well as howling into the wind. Maybe I'm being stubborn to insist on continuing to run what's basically a family mail server, but it does seem like there's a matter of principle there: it should be possible to have an email account without having all the emails stored by a third party. If the answer ends up being, "Oh, just use gmail, everybody else does!" ... well, so be it, I guess, but we should be clear that something got lost in that transition. Jim Shankland On 9/26/23 9:10 AM, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: > I've run a mail server on Linode for 6 or 7 years now; no technical problems. > > End-node, Zimbra, postfix. > > Cheers, > -- jra > > - Original Message - >> From: "Jonathan Leist via NANOG" >> To: "Daniel Corbe" >> Cc: nanog@nanog.org >> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 10:32:51 AM >> Subject: Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed >> Pretty much every popular provider blocks port 25 out by default, and >> they'll instead try to steer customers to use a smart host. However, some, >> including Linode, will unblock port 25 by request: >> https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/running-a-mail-server/#sending-email-on-linode >> >> On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 6:11 AM Daniel Corbe wrote: >> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> I apologize if this isn't the right place to post this; however, I >>> thought maybe the NANOG community would be able to point me in the right >>> direction. >>> >>> I'm looking for a place that I can host a mailer. My primary use case >>> is a Mailman-style technical discussion list; much like NANOG but >>> software related instead of network related: READ: non-commercial in >>> nature. >>> >>> I'm currently a vultr customer, but they're refusing to unblock port 25 >>> on my account. I've tried explaining my use case but no matter who I >>> talk to over there they just keep pointing me to their spam policy. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> -Daniel >>> >> >> -- >> Jonathan Leist >> Staff Engineer
Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed
On 9/26/23 11:41 AM, Chris Adams wrote: Same, although for about 15 years now. One suggestion I'd make is to use IPv6 and get a dedicated /64 (free on request) - it can help a little with "unclean neighborhood" reputation (an issue with any VPS as they can't police everything). +1 for the dedicated /64. This is relatively simple and avoids unsavory neighbors in a shared /64. N.B. you will need to tweak IPv6 routing to favor the new dedicated /64 over the shared /64. -- Grant. . . . unix || die
Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed
True, but only for IPv4; IPv6 outbound port 25 is summarily blocked: https://docs.digitalocean.com/products/networking/ipv6/details/limits/ Thanks, Ward. Mel Beckman schreef op 26 september 2023 10:43:51 EDT: >DigitalOcean.com also lets you send and receive on port 25, provided your MTA >isn’t configured as an open relay. > > -mel > >> On Sep 26, 2023, at 7:38 AM, Brandon Martin wrote: >> >> On 9/26/23 06:09, Daniel Corbe wrote: >>> I'm looking for a place that I can host a mailer. My primary use case is a >>> Mailman-style technical discussion list; much like NANOG but software >>> related instead of network related: READ: non-commercial in nature. >>> >>> I'm currently a vultr customer, but they're refusing to unblock port 25 on >>> my account. I've tried explaining my use case but no matter who I talk to >>> over there they just keep pointing me to their spam policy. >> >> I've been a happy customer of prgmr.com now TornadoVPS. They will >> definitely allow port 25 outbound. It was unblocked by default when I >> signed up years ago and I think still is even on new accounts. >> >> I don't know if they will do BGP. In the past, they had said they would by >> request provided you had your own AS and IP space. I think they also had >> offered to do one under a private ASN for route collection. >> >> -- >> Brandon Martin >> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed
I've been using Linode, also; works fine on the Linode end, but I still see occasional rejections based on my Linode IP address (most recently from outlook.com). It's nothing my specific IP is doing, but appears to be blacklisting of an address range. And gmail randomly puts some outgoing mail into recipients' spam folders. Trying to get an address unblocked by a major provider works almost as well as howling into the wind. Maybe I'm being stubborn to insist on continuing to run what's basically a family mail server, but it does seem like there's a matter of principle there: it should be possible to have an email account without having all the emails stored by a third party. If the answer ends up being, "Oh, just use gmail, everybody else does!" ... well, so be it, I guess, but we should be clear that something got lost in that transition. Jim Shankland On 9/26/23 9:10 AM, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: I've run a mail server on Linode for 6 or 7 years now; no technical problems. End-node, Zimbra, postfix. Cheers, -- jra - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Leist via NANOG" To: "Daniel Corbe" Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 10:32:51 AM Subject: Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed Pretty much every popular provider blocks port 25 out by default, and they'll instead try to steer customers to use a smart host. However, some, including Linode, will unblock port 25 by request: https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/running-a-mail-server/#sending-email-on-linode On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 6:11 AM Daniel Corbe wrote: Hey all, I apologize if this isn't the right place to post this; however, I thought maybe the NANOG community would be able to point me in the right direction. I'm looking for a place that I can host a mailer. My primary use case is a Mailman-style technical discussion list; much like NANOG but software related instead of network related: READ: non-commercial in nature. I'm currently a vultr customer, but they're refusing to unblock port 25 on my account. I've tried explaining my use case but no matter who I talk to over there they just keep pointing me to their spam policy. Thanks! -Daniel -- Jonathan Leist Staff Engineer
Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed
Once upon a time, Jay R. Ashworth said: > I've run a mail server on Linode for 6 or 7 years now; no technical problems. Same, although for about 15 years now. One suggestion I'd make is to use IPv6 and get a dedicated /64 (free on request) - it can help a little with "unclean neighborhood" reputation (an issue with any VPS as they can't police everything). -- Chris Adams
Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed
Yes, that is the case (read the original post, this is addressed). Le 26 septembre 2023 16:13:37 UTC, Bryan Holloway a écrit : >Not sure if this helps, but they only appear to block 25 for IPv4. > >IPv6 works fine. > >Supposedly you can open a support-ticket to have this block removed, but I'm >assuming you've already done that? > > - bryan > > >On 9/26/23 12:09, Daniel Corbe wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> I apologize if this isn't the right place to post this; however, I thought >> maybe the NANOG community would be able to point me in the right direction. >> >> I'm looking for a place that I can host a mailer. My primary use case is a >> Mailman-style technical discussion list; much like NANOG but software >> related instead of network related: READ: non-commercial in nature. >> >> I'm currently a vultr customer, but they're refusing to unblock port 25 on >> my account. I've tried explaining my use case but no matter who I talk to >> over there they just keep pointing me to their spam policy. >> >> Thanks! >> -Daniel -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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Not sure if this helps, but they only appear to block 25 for IPv4. IPv6 works fine. Supposedly you can open a support-ticket to have this block removed, but I'm assuming you've already done that? - bryan On 9/26/23 12:09, Daniel Corbe wrote: Hey all, I apologize if this isn't the right place to post this; however, I thought maybe the NANOG community would be able to point me in the right direction. I'm looking for a place that I can host a mailer. My primary use case is a Mailman-style technical discussion list; much like NANOG but software related instead of network related: READ: non-commercial in nature. I'm currently a vultr customer, but they're refusing to unblock port 25 on my account. I've tried explaining my use case but no matter who I talk to over there they just keep pointing me to their spam policy. Thanks! -Daniel
Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed
I've run a mail server on Linode for 6 or 7 years now; no technical problems. End-node, Zimbra, postfix. Cheers, -- jra - Original Message - > From: "Jonathan Leist via NANOG" > To: "Daniel Corbe" > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 10:32:51 AM > Subject: Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed > Pretty much every popular provider blocks port 25 out by default, and > they'll instead try to steer customers to use a smart host. However, some, > including Linode, will unblock port 25 by request: > https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/running-a-mail-server/#sending-email-on-linode > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 6:11 AM Daniel Corbe wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I apologize if this isn't the right place to post this; however, I >> thought maybe the NANOG community would be able to point me in the right >> direction. >> >> I'm looking for a place that I can host a mailer. My primary use case >> is a Mailman-style technical discussion list; much like NANOG but >> software related instead of network related: READ: non-commercial in >> nature. >> >> I'm currently a vultr customer, but they're refusing to unblock port 25 >> on my account. I've tried explaining my use case but no matter who I >> talk to over there they just keep pointing me to their spam policy. >> >> Thanks! >> -Daniel >> > > > -- > Jonathan Leist > Staff Engineer -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
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You can try v.ps from xTom, we can provide BGP sessions in some locations as well as port 25 unblock. From: NANOG on behalf of Phil Lavin via NANOG Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 01:12 To: Daniel Corbe Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed > On 26 Sep 2023, at 11:09, Daniel Corbe wrote: > > I'm currently a vultr customer, but they're refusing to unblock port 25 on my > account. I've tried explaining my use case but no matter who I talk to over > there they just keep pointing me to their spam policy. I run an MTA in Hetzner. Once you’ve paid a bill, you can raise a request to unblock port 25
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> On 26 Sep 2023, at 11:09, Daniel Corbe wrote: > > I'm currently a vultr customer, but they're refusing to unblock port 25 on my > account. I've tried explaining my use case but no matter who I talk to over > there they just keep pointing me to their spam policy. I run an MTA in Hetzner. Once you’ve paid a bill, you can raise a request to unblock port 25
Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed
Pretty much every popular provider blocks port 25 out by default, and they'll instead try to steer customers to use a smart host. However, some, including Linode, will unblock port 25 by request: https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/running-a-mail-server/#sending-email-on-linode On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 6:11 AM Daniel Corbe wrote: > Hey all, > > I apologize if this isn't the right place to post this; however, I > thought maybe the NANOG community would be able to point me in the right > direction. > > I'm looking for a place that I can host a mailer. My primary use case > is a Mailman-style technical discussion list; much like NANOG but > software related instead of network related: READ: non-commercial in > nature. > > I'm currently a vultr customer, but they're refusing to unblock port 25 > on my account. I've tried explaining my use case but no matter who I > talk to over there they just keep pointing me to their spam policy. > > Thanks! > -Daniel > -- Jonathan Leist Staff Engineer
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DigitalOcean.com also lets you send and receive on port 25, provided your MTA isn’t configured as an open relay. -mel > On Sep 26, 2023, at 7:38 AM, Brandon Martin wrote: > > On 9/26/23 06:09, Daniel Corbe wrote: >> I'm looking for a place that I can host a mailer. My primary use case is a >> Mailman-style technical discussion list; much like NANOG but software >> related instead of network related: READ: non-commercial in nature. >> >> I'm currently a vultr customer, but they're refusing to unblock port 25 on >> my account. I've tried explaining my use case but no matter who I talk to >> over there they just keep pointing me to their spam policy. > > I've been a happy customer of prgmr.com now TornadoVPS. They will definitely > allow port 25 outbound. It was unblocked by default when I signed up years > ago and I think still is even on new accounts. > > I don't know if they will do BGP. In the past, they had said they would by > request provided you had your own AS and IP space. I think they also had > offered to do one under a private ASN for route collection. > > -- > Brandon Martin >
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On 9/26/23 06:09, Daniel Corbe wrote: I'm looking for a place that I can host a mailer. My primary use case is a Mailman-style technical discussion list; much like NANOG but software related instead of network related: READ: non-commercial in nature. I'm currently a vultr customer, but they're refusing to unblock port 25 on my account. I've tried explaining my use case but no matter who I talk to over there they just keep pointing me to their spam policy. I've been a happy customer of prgmr.com now TornadoVPS. They will definitely allow port 25 outbound. It was unblocked by default when I signed up years ago and I think still is even on new accounts. I don't know if they will do BGP. In the past, they had said they would by request provided you had your own AS and IP space. I think they also had offered to do one under a private ASN for route collection. -- Brandon Martin
