Re: Visio-fu
Subject: Visio-fu Date: Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 08:20:34PM + Quoting Warren Bailey (wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com): All, I have been searching our beloved internet endlessly for months on information regarding Visio technique. Does anyone have a good resource(s) for advanced visio drawings, or more to the point a good place for high quality connectors? There is some great quality work out there, this is something I found just a little while ago http://www.parallels.com/r/upload/figure2-1.gif This may not be a visio drawing (do not have any background on it), but I would really dig some resources that you guys out there may or may not use. The cables in that drawing look fantastic to me, so I would really appreciate any guidance you all have in helping me improve my output. I'd just quit beating the rotting carcass of Visio into producing anything not appalling and go with OmniGraffle instead. http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omnigraffle/ -- Måns Nilsson primary/secondary/besserwisser/machina MN-1334-RIPE +46 705 989668 DON'T go!! I'm not HOWARD COSELL!! I know POLISH JOKES ... WAIT!! Don't go!! I AM Howard Cosell! ... And I DON'T know Polish jokes!! signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Visio-fu
On 25 February 2013 23:22, Michael Hallgren m.hallg...@free.fr wrote: Le 25/02/2013 23:15, Warren Bailey a écrit : I've seen smart draw. I wish these drawing software companies would port their application over to mac.. Every big design guy I know is a mac fanboy, Adobe has it figured out but smart draw and visio have no excuse. Omni is about the only thing out there, but it is hell to use in my opinion. :) Hell is quite structured in the TeX related list I just proposed. :) mh other tool idea: graphviz could be used to generate braincandy, but not eyecandy (most graphics generated by graphviz are awesome, but ugly). also this was cool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=RCa2sjyrUdQ -- -- ℱin del ℳensaje.
Re: Visio-fu
I purchased omni, but it is pretty difficult to get the hang of.. :/ From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. Original message From: Måns Nilsson mansa...@besserwisser.org Date: 02/26/2013 12:01 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com Cc: North American Network Operators Group nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Visio-fu Subject: Visio-fu Date: Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 08:20:34PM + Quoting Warren Bailey (wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com): All, I have been searching our beloved internet endlessly for months on information regarding Visio technique. Does anyone have a good resource(s) for advanced visio drawings, or more to the point a good place for high quality connectors? There is some great quality work out there, this is something I found just a little while ago http://www.parallels.com/r/upload/figure2-1.gif This may not be a visio drawing (do not have any background on it), but I would really dig some resources that you guys out there may or may not use. The cables in that drawing look fantastic to me, so I would really appreciate any guidance you all have in helping me improve my output. I'd just quit beating the rotting carcass of Visio into producing anything not appalling and go with OmniGraffle instead. http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omnigraffle/ -- Måns Nilsson primary/secondary/besserwisser/machina MN-1334-RIPE +46 705 989668 DON'T go!! I'm not HOWARD COSELL!! I know POLISH JOKES ... WAIT!! Don't go!! I AM Howard Cosell! ... And I DON'T know Polish jokes!!
Re: Visio-fu
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: All, I have been searching our beloved internet endlessly for months on information regarding Visio technique. Does anyone have a good resource(s) for advanced visio drawings, or more to the point a good place for high quality connectors? There is some great quality work out there, this is something I found just a little while ago http://www.parallels.com/r/upload/figure2-1.gif This may not be a visio drawing (do not have any background on it), but I would really dig some resources that you guys out there may or may not use. The cables in that drawing look fantastic to me, so I would really appreciate any guidance you all have in helping me improve my output. Thanks! //warren I've seen a lot of .vsd and drawn a few, and that looks like a professional artist and graphics program like Illustrator, not Visio. They might have poached some visio generic system images, but those could be hand-done too. If Visio can do twisted, curved cables like that, it's a feature I've never seen before in it... My company has a Visio whiz, who I'm going to ping for his opinion on that, but I am guessing it's a no. -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com
Re: Visio-fu
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:58 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: [...] My company has a Visio whiz, who I'm going to ping for his opinion on that, but I am guessing it's a no. Our Visio guy's opinion concurred with mine; it's custom drawing, not off-the-shelf capability, and would most likely have been in a graphics program (though he thinks it might have been possible with Visio, it would have been much easier in for example Illustrator). -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com
Re: Visio-fu
Check SmartDraw. On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:58 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: [...] My company has a Visio whiz, who I'm going to ping for his opinion on that, but I am guessing it's a no. Our Visio guy's opinion concurred with mine; it's custom drawing, not off-the-shelf capability, and would most likely have been in a graphics program (though he thinks it might have been possible with Visio, it would have been much easier in for example Illustrator). -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com
Re: Visio-fu
I've seen smart draw. I wish these drawing software companies would port their application over to mac.. Every big design guy I know is a mac fanboy, Adobe has it figured out but smart draw and visio have no excuse. Omni is about the only thing out there, but it is hell to use in my opinion. :) From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. Original message From: Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com Date: 02/25/2013 2:10 PM (GMT-08:00) To: George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com Cc: Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com,North American Network Operators Group nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Visio-fu Check SmartDraw. On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.commailto:george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:58 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.commailto:george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: [...] My company has a Visio whiz, who I'm going to ping for his opinion on that, but I am guessing it's a no. Our Visio guy's opinion concurred with mine; it's custom drawing, not off-the-shelf capability, and would most likely have been in a graphics program (though he thinks it might have been possible with Visio, it would have been much easier in for example Illustrator). -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.commailto:george.herb...@gmail.com
Re: Visio-fu
Le 25/02/2013 23:06, Josh Baird a écrit : Check SmartDraw. pstricks, metapost, TikZ (pgf),... mh On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:58 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: [...] My company has a Visio whiz, who I'm going to ping for his opinion on that, but I am guessing it's a no. Our Visio guy's opinion concurred with mine; it's custom drawing, not off-the-shelf capability, and would most likely have been in a graphics program (though he thinks it might have been possible with Visio, it would have been much easier in for example Illustrator). -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com
Re: Visio-fu
Le 25/02/2013 23:15, Warren Bailey a écrit : I've seen smart draw. I wish these drawing software companies would port their application over to mac.. Every big design guy I know is a mac fanboy, Adobe has it figured out but smart draw and visio have no excuse. Omni is about the only thing out there, but it is hell to use in my opinion. :) Hell is quite structured in the TeX related list I just proposed. :) mh From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. Original message From: Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com Date: 02/25/2013 2:10 PM (GMT-08:00) To: George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com Cc: Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com,North American Network Operators Group nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Visio-fu Check SmartDraw. On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.commailto:george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:58 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.commailto:george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: [...] My company has a Visio whiz, who I'm going to ping for his opinion on that, but I am guessing it's a no. Our Visio guy's opinion concurred with mine; it's custom drawing, not off-the-shelf capability, and would most likely have been in a graphics program (though he thinks it might have been possible with Visio, it would have been much easier in for example Illustrator). -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.commailto:george.herb...@gmail.com
Re: Visio-fu
On Mon, 25 Feb 2013, George Herbert wrote: Our Visio guy's opinion concurred with mine; it's custom drawing, not off-the-shelf capability, and would most likely have been in a graphics program (though he thinks it might have been possible with Visio, it would have been much easier in for example Illustrator). I concur. Visio is not particularly good at (what appear to be) freehand shapes. jm'probably the closest thing to the Visio guy at my workplace's
