RE: Wired access to SMS?
I have been happy with the services from twilio Cheers Ryan -Original Message- From: Joly MacFie [mailto:j...@punkcast.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:24 PM To: Tim M Edwards Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Wired access to SMS? More precisely http://www.twilio.com/sms j On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Tim M Edwards t...@lifelike.com wrote: Twillio.com On Oct 9, 2012, at 12:36 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: Hi Folks, I'm looking for a way to do wireline access to send and receive cellular phone short message service (SMS) messages. Despite all my google-fu, I have had limited luck finding anyone that meets my needs, so I'm hoping someone here has found the path through. My main criteria are: 1. Low quantity, high reliability. I'll want a few dozen phone numbers and effectively I'll be sending to and receiving from phones I own. 2. Wireline delivery to Honolulu and Northern Virginia. Dynamically move numbers between the two locations for failover purposes. 3. U.S. based carrier. Tying in to the SMS system via Europe isn't acceptable to my customer. 4. Solution must reach phones on all U.S. cellular carriers. 5. Price is a very distant fifth criteria to the preceding four. I can consider Internet based systems where the provider uses U.S. based facilities and ties in to a U.S. phone network, provided that my standards of reliability and redundancy are met by their infrastructure. Alternately, I can also consider a wireless carrier that can provide two SIM-based phones with the same phone number for sending and receiving SMS messages. I'd put the sims in a pair of modems and manage deduplication of the received messages in software. Has anybody had any luck with this kind of requirement? Which vendors should I talk to and who at the vendor? Thanks, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin her...@dirtside.com b...@herrin.us 3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/ Falls Church, VA 22042-3004 -- --- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -- -
Re: Wired access to SMS?
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote: Instead, purchase a cellular USB modem with a standard plan. All 4 major carriers provide APIs to interact with the modems, and you get everything you need*. They aren't cheap (something in the neighborhood of $30/month), * but they work, they are reliable, and you have a committed telecom corp dedicated to keeping uptime high, and the API up-to-date. .. Just my $0.03, If his need is mission critical, and $30/mo breaks the bank .. I'd respectfully submit that there wasn't much of a mission.. :-p I do agree, tho, that an external / serial / aybe-usb gsm device is the route to pursue. I also '+1' / 'bump' the earlier suggestion that the OP (bill) look into Twilio. Their level of support/interaction/help/you-name-it sets standards I wish everyone lived by, and Twilio ease of use reliability is second to none, or, at the least, one of a very few. -- jamie rishaw // .com.arpa@j - reverse it. ish.
Re: Wired access to SMS?
Arent most of the services now wrapped into Google for Business where you are the customer? I dont know about Google voice though. Thanks On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:47 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:05 PM, steve pirk [egrep] st...@pirk.com wrote: Have you looked at Google Voice much? I have mine set up to SMS all my devices, including email delivery, and can enable/disable devices as needed. The big benefit, is that I have an inbox full of all my old inbound and outbound text messages. Hi Steve, Google voice is a fine service and if they sold it with an API, I might well buy it. As a free public service with a strictly unofficial API, I can't seriously consider using it in my product's critical path. I need a service whose provider is actually obligated to keep it working to the standard of resilience typical of the rest of my system. Let me put it another way: with google voice, google mail, google search you are not the customer. You're the product. I use gmail for my personal mail and I can live with that. For business services, I need to be the customer. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin her...@dirtside.com b...@herrin.us 3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/ Falls Church, VA 22042-3004 -- Bryan Tong Nullivex LLC | eSited LLC (507) 298-1624
Re: Wired access to SMS?
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Aaron Toponce aaron.toponceaaron.topo...@gmail.com @ aaron.topo...@gmail.comgmail.com aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote: Instead, purchase a cellular USB modem with a standard plan. All 4 major carriers provide APIs to interact with the modems, and you get everything you need*. They aren't cheap (something in the neighborhood of $30/month), * but they work, they are reliable, and you have a committed telecom corp dedicated to keeping uptime high, and the API up-to-date. .. Just my $0.03, If his need is mission critical, and $30/mo breaks the bank .. I'd respectfully submit that there wasn't much of a mission.. :-p I do agree, tho, that an external / serial / aybe-usb gsm device is the route to pursue. I also '+1' / 'bump' the earlier suggestion that the OP (bill) look into Twilio. Their level of support/interaction/help/you-name-it sets standards I wish everyone lived by, and Twilio ease of use reliability is second to none, or, at the least, one of a very few. -j. -- jamie rishaw // .com.arpa@j - reverse it. ish.
Re: Wired access to SMS?
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:18 PM, jamie rishaw j...@arpa.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Aaron Toponce Instead, purchase a cellular USB modem with a standard plan. All 4 major carriers provide APIs to interact with the modems, and you get everything you need*. They aren't cheap (something in the neighborhood of $30/month), If his need is mission critical, and $30/mo breaks the bank .. I'd respectfully submit that there wasn't much of a mission.. :-p I do agree, tho, that an external / serial / aybe-usb gsm device is the route to pursue. Perhaps I should explain a little further: I have a system in place based on just under a dozen Multitech GSM modems in a room by a window. It works... more or less. It has no provisions for equipment or site failure. The modem breaks, that number is unavailable. The site fails, that number is unavailable. The local cell network gets jammed, the number is unavailable. That's the opposite of high availability. So, I need to replace it with something that offers high availability for each phone number, aka SMS long code. I realize that the phone end will still suffer all the vagaries of SMS. But on the base end I need high availability. I expect this to cost more than throwing a dozen GSM modems in a room. I won't be offended when it does. Anyway, I want to thank everybody for the suggestions, public and private. You've given me some solid leads I can pursue. I'll let you know how it turns out. Thanks, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin her...@dirtside.com b...@herrin.us 3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/ Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
Re: Wired access to SMS?
On 10/10/12 10:10 AM, William Herrin wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:18 PM, jamie rishaw j...@arpa.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Aaron Toponce Instead, purchase a cellular USB modem with a standard plan. All 4 major carriers provide APIs to interact with the modems, and you get everything you need*. They aren't cheap (something in the neighborhood of $30/month), If his need is mission critical, and $30/mo breaks the bank .. I'd respectfully submit that there wasn't much of a mission.. :-p I do agree, tho, that an external / serial / aybe-usb gsm device is the route to pursue. Perhaps I should explain a little further: I have a system in place based on just under a dozen Multitech GSM modems in a room by a window. It works... more or less. It has no provisions for equipment or site failure. The modem breaks, that number is unavailable. The site fails, that number is unavailable. The local cell network gets jammed, the number is unavailable. That's the opposite of high availability. So, I need to replace it with something that offers high availability for each phone number, aka SMS long code. I realize that the phone end will still suffer all the vagaries of SMS. But on the base end I need high availability. I expect this to cost more than throwing a dozen GSM modems in a room. I won't be offended when it does. What about finding someplace offsite and setting up a persistent PPP connection with modems (of the POTS variety) between it and home base? Put half the modems there and maybe a low power Atom server with hooks to send alerts like connection to home hasn't come back after X redials. I do something similar by having cheap DSL with a provider I don't have any other services with to provide a outside world view of things. I have a POTS line there too that can auto-dial back home if needed. ~Seth
Re: Wired access to SMS?
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 10/10/12 10:10 AM, William Herrin wrote: So, I need to replace it with something that offers high availability for each phone number, aka SMS long code. I realize that the phone end will still suffer all the vagaries of SMS. But on the base end I need high availability. What about finding someplace offsite and setting up a persistent PPP connection with modems (of the POTS variety) between it and home base? Put half the modems there and maybe a low power Atom server with hooks to send alerts like connection to home hasn't come back after X redials. To do that, I'd need a way to assign the same phone number (SMS long code) to two different modems, one at the first site, one at the second. I'd welcome a lead on a phone product or vendor who can do that for me. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin her...@dirtside.com b...@herrin.us 3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/ Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
Re: Wired access to SMS?
Inmarsat SMS? http://www.marlink.com/text-messaging.html -Mike On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:41 AM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 10/10/12 10:10 AM, William Herrin wrote: So, I need to replace it with something that offers high availability for each phone number, aka SMS long code. I realize that the phone end will still suffer all the vagaries of SMS. But on the base end I need high availability. What about finding someplace offsite and setting up a persistent PPP connection with modems (of the POTS variety) between it and home base? Put half the modems there and maybe a low power Atom server with hooks to send alerts like connection to home hasn't come back after X redials. To do that, I'd need a way to assign the same phone number (SMS long code) to two different modems, one at the first site, one at the second. I'd welcome a lead on a phone product or vendor who can do that for me. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin her...@dirtside.com b...@herrin.us 3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/ Falls Church, VA 22042-3004 -- Mike Lyon 408-621-4826 mike.l...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon
Re: Wired access to SMS?
On Oct 10, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Bill Herrin wrote: What about finding someplace offsite and setting up a persistent PPP connection with modems (of the POTS variety) between it and home base? Put half the modems there and maybe a low power Atom server with hooks to send alerts like connection to home hasn't come back after X redials. I do something similar by having cheap DSL with a provider I don't have any other services with to provide a outside world view of things. I have a POTS line there too that can auto-dial back home if needed. If we're looking for belt and suspenders solutions (when you lose your primary WAN connection and the cell modems are jammed up...) You could also hitch up an analog modem to a POTS line, and then let your paging software dial your cell/home number. You won't hear anything, but the CallerID will let you know that your monitoring system is *desperately* trying to get in touch :-) Rich Brownrichard.e.br...@dartware.com Dartware, LLC http://www.intermapper.com 66-7 Benning Street Telephone: 603-643-9600 West Lebanon, NH 03784-3407 Fax: 603-643-2289
RE: Wired access to SMS?
You could also hitch up an analog modem to a POTS line, and then let your paging software dial your cell/home number. You won't hear anything, but the CallerID will let you know that your monitoring system is *desperately* trying to get in touch :-) You could take it one step further and get an FXO card and put it in a very basic asterisk server. Write a simple program which call be pinged with issue reports as an argument, then pass those arguments to festvox or other TTS application. Output to WAV, convert to GSM, generate an asterisk call file (or write an extension) that calls you on the analog line, and plays you the sound file. I've done this at several employers. It works fairly well - perhaps better than it sounds. If you can get a SIP upstream that will let you set your CID, then send the calls out that route first, and the POTS line becomes a backup - then if you ever get calls from the POTS DID, you know that you have the original problem, plus you know that the connection to the SIP gateway is down. Nathan Eisenberg
Re: Wired access to SMS?
On 10/10/2012 5:34 PM, Nathan Eisenberg wrote: You could also hitch up an analog modem to a POTS line, and then let your paging software dial your cell/home number. You won't hear anything, but the CallerID will let you know that your monitoring system is *desperately* trying to get in touch :-) You could take it one step further and get an FXO card and put it in a very basic asterisk server. Write a simple program which call be pinged with issue reports as an argument, then pass those arguments to festvox or other TTS application. Output to WAV, convert to GSM, generate an asterisk call file (or write an extension) that calls you on the analog line, and plays you the sound file. I've done this at several employers. It works fairly well - perhaps better than it sounds. If you can get a SIP upstream that will let you set your CID, then send the calls out that route first, and the POTS line becomes a backup - then if you ever get calls from the POTS DID, you know that you have the original problem, plus you know that the connection to the SIP gateway is down. Nathan Eisenberg Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't it be possible to grab SMS via SS7 and feed it into a softswitch or similar like an Asterisk box? All that would be required would be a friendly SMS provider with an SMS peering or gateway with the network(s) you care about. I know Verizon was offering a landline VoIP phone that offered SMS long code support a while ago, but I was never sufficiently interested to examine it further. DJ
Re: Wired access to SMS?
More precisely http://www.twilio.com/sms j On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Tim M Edwards t...@lifelike.com wrote: Twillio.com On Oct 9, 2012, at 12:36 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: Hi Folks, I'm looking for a way to do wireline access to send and receive cellular phone short message service (SMS) messages. Despite all my google-fu, I have had limited luck finding anyone that meets my needs, so I'm hoping someone here has found the path through. My main criteria are: 1. Low quantity, high reliability. I'll want a few dozen phone numbers and effectively I'll be sending to and receiving from phones I own. 2. Wireline delivery to Honolulu and Northern Virginia. Dynamically move numbers between the two locations for failover purposes. 3. U.S. based carrier. Tying in to the SMS system via Europe isn't acceptable to my customer. 4. Solution must reach phones on all U.S. cellular carriers. 5. Price is a very distant fifth criteria to the preceding four. I can consider Internet based systems where the provider uses U.S. based facilities and ties in to a U.S. phone network, provided that my standards of reliability and redundancy are met by their infrastructure. Alternately, I can also consider a wireless carrier that can provide two SIM-based phones with the same phone number for sending and receiving SMS messages. I'd put the sims in a pair of modems and manage deduplication of the received messages in software. Has anybody had any luck with this kind of requirement? Which vendors should I talk to and who at the vendor? Thanks, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin her...@dirtside.com b...@herrin.us 3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/ Falls Church, VA 22042-3004 -- --- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -- -
Re: Wired access to SMS?
Twillio.com On Oct 9, 2012, at 12:36 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: Hi Folks, I'm looking for a way to do wireline access to send and receive cellular phone short message service (SMS) messages. Despite all my google-fu, I have had limited luck finding anyone that meets my needs, so I'm hoping someone here has found the path through. My main criteria are: 1. Low quantity, high reliability. I'll want a few dozen phone numbers and effectively I'll be sending to and receiving from phones I own. 2. Wireline delivery to Honolulu and Northern Virginia. Dynamically move numbers between the two locations for failover purposes. 3. U.S. based carrier. Tying in to the SMS system via Europe isn't acceptable to my customer. 4. Solution must reach phones on all U.S. cellular carriers. 5. Price is a very distant fifth criteria to the preceding four. I can consider Internet based systems where the provider uses U.S. based facilities and ties in to a U.S. phone network, provided that my standards of reliability and redundancy are met by their infrastructure. Alternately, I can also consider a wireless carrier that can provide two SIM-based phones with the same phone number for sending and receiving SMS messages. I'd put the sims in a pair of modems and manage deduplication of the received messages in software. Has anybody had any luck with this kind of requirement? Which vendors should I talk to and who at the vendor? Thanks, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin her...@dirtside.com b...@herrin.us 3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/ Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
Re: Wired access to SMS?
On 10/09/12 14:35, William Herrin wrote: Hi Folks, I'm looking for a way to do wireline access to send and receive cellular phone short message service (SMS) messages. Despite all my google-fu, I have had limited luck finding anyone that meets my needs, so I'm hoping someone here has found the path through. My main criteria are: 1. Low quantity, high reliability. I'll want a few dozen phone numbers and effectively I'll be sending to and receiving from phones I own. 2. Wireline delivery to Honolulu and Northern Virginia. Dynamically move numbers between the two locations for failover purposes. 3. U.S. based carrier. Tying in to the SMS system via Europe isn't acceptable to my customer. 4. Solution must reach phones on all U.S. cellular carriers. 5. Price is a very distant fifth criteria to the preceding four. I can consider Internet based systems where the provider uses U.S. based facilities and ties in to a U.S. phone network, provided that my standards of reliability and redundancy are met by their infrastructure. Alternately, I can also consider a wireless carrier that can provide two SIM-based phones with the same phone number for sending and receiving SMS messages. I'd put the sims in a pair of modems and manage deduplication of the received messages in software. Has anybody had any luck with this kind of requirement? Which vendors should I talk to and who at the vendor? Thanks, Bill Herrin If these are your phones, you will be controlling the carrier. If they are all one carrier, you can find out how to send to that carrier. For other uses where you don't control the carrier, it becomes a nightmare and where you may want to get a service provider to do that for you. Most carriers have a way to send messages directly to phones and I use a phone from one specific carrier that has access via modems(using TAP protocol and I use qpage(www.qpage.org)). You can also use qpage via a public(but carrier specific) snpp server, but I have not had a need for that as I need/want off Internet delivery of messages to the carrier's network. On the expensive side, lookup 'sms short code' and you will see information on how that works and more info on service providers in this area. Lyle Giese LCR Computer Services, Inc.
Re: Wired access to SMS?
Have you looked at Google Voice much? I have mine set up to SMS all my devices, including email delivery, and can enable/disable devices as needed. The big benefit, is that I have an inbox full of all my old inbound and outbound text messages. It might be that I am missing a key element, but it looks like you want a virtual (VoIP) SMS number, and be able to decide which devices in the US receive the messages. On Oct 9, 2012 12:56 PM, Lyle Giese l...@lcrcomputer.net wrote: On 10/09/12 14:35, William Herrin wrote: Hi Folks, I'm looking for a way to do wireline access to send and receive cellular phone short message service (SMS) messages. Despite all my google-fu, I have had limited luck finding anyone that meets my needs, so I'm hoping someone here has found the path through. My main criteria are: 1. Low quantity, high reliability. I'll want a few dozen phone numbers and effectively I'll be sending to and receiving from phones I own. 2. Wireline delivery to Honolulu and Northern Virginia. Dynamically move numbers between the two locations for failover purposes. 3. U.S. based carrier. Tying in to the SMS system via Europe isn't acceptable to my customer. 4. Solution must reach phones on all U.S. cellular carriers. 5. Price is a very distant fifth criteria to the preceding four. I can consider Internet based systems where the provider uses U.S. based facilities and ties in to a U.S. phone network, provided that my standards of reliability and redundancy are met by their infrastructure. Alternately, I can also consider a wireless carrier that can provide two SIM-based phones with the same phone number for sending and receiving SMS messages. I'd put the sims in a pair of modems and manage deduplication of the received messages in software. Has anybody had any luck with this kind of requirement? Which vendors should I talk to and who at the vendor? Thanks, Bill Herrin If these are your phones, you will be controlling the carrier. If they are all one carrier, you can find out how to send to that carrier. For other uses where you don't control the carrier, it becomes a nightmare and where you may want to get a service provider to do that for you. Most carriers have a way to send messages directly to phones and I use a phone from one specific carrier that has access via modems(using TAP protocol and I use qpage(www.qpage.org)). You can also use qpage via a public(but carrier specific) snpp server, but I have not had a need for that as I need/want off Internet delivery of messages to the carrier's network. On the expensive side, lookup 'sms short code' and you will see information on how that works and more info on service providers in this area. Lyle Giese LCR Computer Services, Inc.
Re: Wired access to SMS?
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:05 PM, steve pirk [egrep] st...@pirk.com wrote: Have you looked at Google Voice much? I have mine set up to SMS all my devices, including email delivery, and can enable/disable devices as needed. The big benefit, is that I have an inbox full of all my old inbound and outbound text messages. Hi Steve, Google voice is a fine service and if they sold it with an API, I might well buy it. As a free public service with a strictly unofficial API, I can't seriously consider using it in my product's critical path. I need a service whose provider is actually obligated to keep it working to the standard of resilience typical of the rest of my system. Let me put it another way: with google voice, google mail, google search you are not the customer. You're the product. I use gmail for my personal mail and I can live with that. For business services, I need to be the customer. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin her...@dirtside.com b...@herrin.us 3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/ Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
Re: Wired access to SMS?
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 03:35:37PM -0400, William Herrin wrote: Hi Folks, I'm looking for a way to do wireline access to send and receive cellular phone short message service (SMS) messages. Despite all my google-fu, I have had limited luck finding anyone that meets my needs, so I'm hoping someone here has found the path through. My main criteria are: 1. Low quantity, high reliability. I'll want a few dozen phone numbers and effectively I'll be sending to and receiving from phones I own. 2. Wireline delivery to Honolulu and Northern Virginia. Dynamically move numbers between the two locations for failover purposes. 3. U.S. based carrier. Tying in to the SMS system via Europe isn't acceptable to my customer. 4. Solution must reach phones on all U.S. cellular carriers. 5. Price is a very distant fifth criteria to the preceding four. I can consider Internet based systems where the provider uses U.S. based facilities and ties in to a U.S. phone network, provided that my standards of reliability and redundancy are met by their infrastructure. Alternately, I can also consider a wireless carrier that can provide two SIM-based phones with the same phone number for sending and receiving SMS messages. I'd put the sims in a pair of modems and manage deduplication of the received messages in software. Has anybody had any luck with this kind of requirement? Which vendors should I talk to and who at the vendor? Thanks, Bill Herrin We use the MultiTech MultiModem iSMS SF-100G linked up to an ATT Wireless account. It has a RESTful API and can handle both transmission and reception of text messages. There are probably SaaS options out there, but have never explored. Thanks, Ray
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On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 03:35:37PM -0400, William Herrin wrote: Alternately, I can also consider a wireless carrier that can provide two SIM-based phones with the same phone number for sending and receiving SMS messages. I'd put the sims in a pair of modems and manage deduplication of the received messages in software. We use the MultiTech MultiModem iSMS SF-100G linked up to an ATT Wireless account. It has a RESTful API and can handle both transmission and reception of text messages. Hi Ray, Have you figured out how to get ATT to give you two SIMs with the same phone number? I'm using a different set of multitech modems now but I need the same, I guess the terminology is SMS long code, at both sites. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin her...@dirtside.com b...@herrin.us 3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/ Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
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AWS? http://aws.amazon.com/sns/ On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 2:47 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:05 PM, steve pirk [egrep] st...@pirk.com wrote: Have you looked at Google Voice much? I have mine set up to SMS all my devices, including email delivery, and can enable/disable devices as needed. The big benefit, is that I have an inbox full of all my old inbound and outbound text messages. Hi Steve, Google voice is a fine service and if they sold it with an API, I might well buy it. As a free public service with a strictly unofficial API, I can't seriously consider using it in my product's critical path. I need a service whose provider is actually obligated to keep it working to the standard of resilience typical of the rest of my system. Let me put it another way: with google voice, google mail, google search you are not the customer. You're the product. I use gmail for my personal mail and I can live with that. For business services, I need to be the customer. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin her...@dirtside.com b...@herrin.us 3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/ Falls Church, VA 22042-3004 -- Mike Lyon 408-621-4826 mike.l...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon
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On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 06:17:26PM -0400, William Herrin wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 03:35:37PM -0400, William Herrin wrote: Alternately, I can also consider a wireless carrier that can provide two SIM-based phones with the same phone number for sending and receiving SMS messages. I'd put the sims in a pair of modems and manage deduplication of the received messages in software. We use the MultiTech MultiModem iSMS SF-100G linked up to an ATT Wireless account. It has a RESTful API and can handle both transmission and reception of text messages. Hi Ray, Have you figured out how to get ATT to give you two SIMs with the same phone number? I'm using a different set of multitech modems now but I need the same, I guess the terminology is SMS long code, at both sites. Regards, Bill Herrin Sorry, Bill -- not something we've had a need for so have never tried. :) Ray
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Huh, you'd think they'd have mvno contracts just for this ...? On Oct 9, 2012 6:19 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 03:35:37PM -0400, William Herrin wrote: Alternately, I can also consider a wireless carrier that can provide two SIM-based phones with the same phone number for sending and receiving SMS messages. I'd put the sims in a pair of modems and manage deduplication of the received messages in software. We use the MultiTech MultiModem iSMS SF-100G linked up to an ATT Wireless account. It has a RESTful API and can handle both transmission and reception of text messages. Hi Ray, Have you figured out how to get ATT to give you two SIMs with the same phone number? I'm using a different set of multitech modems now but I need the same, I guess the terminology is SMS long code, at both sites. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin her...@dirtside.com b...@herrin.us 3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/ Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
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On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:47 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:05 PM, steve pirk [egrep] st...@pirk.com wrote: Have you looked at Google Voice much? I have mine set up to SMS all my devices, including email delivery, and can enable/disable devices as needed. The big benefit, is that I have an inbox full of all my old inbound and outbound text messages. ++1 on Google Voice. Hi Steve, Google voice is a fine service and if they sold it with an API, I might well buy it. As a free public service with a strictly unofficial API, I can't seriously consider using it in my product's critical path. I need a service whose provider is actually obligated to keep it working to the standard of resilience typical of the rest of my system. Let me put it another way: with google voice, google mail, google search you are not the customer. You're the product. I use gmail for my personal mail and I can live with that. For business services, I need to be the customer. FWLIW - I think that is a bit harsh, even if mostly accurate. I love GVoice for sending receiving texts across multiple devices, some of which aren't cellular - or wired - at all :). *(Also have phone calls ring not just my phones, but Skype and GChat as well ...)* /TJ
Re: Wired access to SMS?
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 15:35:37PM -0400, William Herrin wrote: 1. Low quantity, high reliability. I'll want a few dozen phone numbers and effectively I'll be sending to and receiving from phones I own. 2. Wireline delivery to Honolulu and Northern Virginia. Dynamically move numbers between the two locations for failover purposes. 3. U.S. based carrier. Tying in to the SMS system via Europe isn't acceptable to my customer. 4. Solution must reach phones on all U.S. cellular carriers. 5. Price is a very distant fifth criteria to the preceding four. vitelity.com? -- Henry Yen Aegis Information Systems, Inc. Senior Systems Programmer Hicksville, New York
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I will need to look into the Google Apps for business part of the voice product. I have not really tried apps accounts yet. As far as APIs go, it looks like most are unofficial, but there is community support. Check googlevoice.org and also code.google. com/p/pygooglevoice for examples of what can be accomplished today. The Canada part is a showstopper, but it should be fairly easy to use a for exit node in the US to allow you to sign up for a US number. I do know that US users can still call all of Canada for free through the end of this year. My gut feel is that the telcos are what is keeping Google from releasing the product to a broader audience, e.g. more countries than the US. On Oct 9, 2012 3:25 PM, TJ trej...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:47 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:05 PM, steve pirk [egrep] st...@pirk.com wrote: Have you looked at Google Voice much? I have mine set up to SMS all my devices, including email delivery, and can enable/disable devices as needed. The big benefit, is that I have an inbox full of all my old inbound and outbound text messages. ++1 on Google Voice. Hi Steve, Google voice is a fine service and if they sold it with an API, I might well buy it. As a free public service with a strictly unofficial API, I can't seriously consider using it in my product's critical path. I need a service whose provider is actually obligated to keep it working to the standard of resilience typical of the rest of my system. Let me put it another way: with google voice, google mail, google search you are not the customer. You're the product. I use gmail for my personal mail and I can live with that. For business services, I need to be the customer. FWLIW - I think that is a bit harsh, even if mostly accurate. I love GVoice for sending receiving texts across multiple devices, some of which aren't cellular - or wired - at all :). *(Also have phone calls ring not just my phones, but Skype and GChat as well ...)* /TJ
Re: Wired access to SMS?
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 03:35:37PM -0400, William Herrin wrote: I'm looking for a way to do wireline access to send and receive cellular phone short message service (SMS) messages. Despite all my google-fu, I have had limited luck finding anyone that meets my needs, so I'm hoping someone here has found the path through. My main criteria are: 1. Low quantity, high reliability. I'll want a few dozen phone numbers and effectively I'll be sending to and receiving from phones I own. 2. Wireline delivery to Honolulu and Northern Virginia. Dynamically move numbers between the two locations for failover purposes. 3. U.S. based carrier. Tying in to the SMS system via Europe isn't acceptable to my customer. 4. Solution must reach phones on all U.S. cellular carriers. 5. Price is a very distant fifth criteria to the preceding four. Avoid Google Voice. I've seen other recommendations on this, and it's horrid. Most solutions are no longer updated, there is no official API from Google, and Google changes their products regularly where stuff breaks. To suggest it as a critical production solution blows my mind. Instead, purchase a cellular USB modem with a standard plan. All 4 major carriers provide APIs to interact with the modems, and you get everything you need. They aren't cheap (something in the neighborhood of $30/month), but they work, they are reliable, and you have a committed telecom corp dedicated to keeping uptime high, and the API up-to-date. -- . o . o . o . . o o . . . o . . . o . o o o . o . o o . . o o o o . o . . o o o o . o o o pgphxXllUFhJc.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Look at TextMagic. They have an easy to work with API and the cost is minimal. If you are using it for monitoring purposes, you'll just have to figure out how to do it out of band. On Oct 9, 2012 10:37 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: Hi Folks, I'm looking for a way to do wireline access to send and receive cellular phone short message service (SMS) messages. Despite all my google-fu, I have had limited luck finding anyone that meets my needs, so I'm hoping someone here has found the path through. My main criteria are: 1. Low quantity, high reliability. I'll want a few dozen phone numbers and effectively I'll be sending to and receiving from phones I own. 2. Wireline delivery to Honolulu and Northern Virginia. Dynamically move numbers between the two locations for failover purposes. 3. U.S. based carrier. Tying in to the SMS system via Europe isn't acceptable to my customer. 4. Solution must reach phones on all U.S. cellular carriers. 5. Price is a very distant fifth criteria to the preceding four. I can consider Internet based systems where the provider uses U.S. based facilities and ties in to a U.S. phone network, provided that my standards of reliability and redundancy are met by their infrastructure. Alternately, I can also consider a wireless carrier that can provide two SIM-based phones with the same phone number for sending and receiving SMS messages. I'd put the sims in a pair of modems and manage deduplication of the received messages in software. Has anybody had any luck with this kind of requirement? Which vendors should I talk to and who at the vendor? Thanks, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin her...@dirtside.com b...@herrin.us 3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/ Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
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Look at TextMagic. They're in the UK. You might take a look at Aerialink who are in the US: http://www.aerialink.com/gateway/options/outbound-sms/ Getting your own cellular modem may well end up being more reliable and cheaper in the long run, since you are less at the mercy of other people's software.
