Re: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-30 Thread Elmar K. Bins
Re,

meh...@akcin.net (Mehmet Akcin) wrote:

  But all the traffic on every Equinix and PAIX switch combined, is still 
  lower than the traffic on any one of the three large exchanges in Europe.  
  It really is all about the PNIs.
 I wonder how is NOTA like, do they ever make the traffic info public?

Not really, but that's probably typical.

http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-58/content/presentations/Snowhorn-NOTA_Update.pdf

mentions 170+Gbps for NOTA, but that was 1.5 years ago.

Yours,
Elmar.

-- 

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Re: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-29 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 04:09:55PM -0600, Aaron Wendel wrote:
 According to pch they don't run most of them.  I would say they run 
 very few compared to how many there actually are.

Uhh... Reality check, with the SD acquisition Equinix controls the VAST 
majority of the IX traffic in the US. The only other IX's doing anything 
even approaching interesting traffic are NOTA (in Miami), NYIIX (in New 
York), SIX (in Seattle), and the former AtlantaIX (now Telx TIE) in 
Atlanta. All are regional players, with very incomplete coverage of the 
important regions in the US, so if you're peering in the US you're 
almost guaranteed to be dealing with Equinix. Nobody else is even 
noteworthy, you can probably do more traffic than the other IX's by 
leaving a bit torrent client running overnight.

Anyone can throw a Linksys switch in their basement and call themselves 
an exchange point, but that doesn't mean anyone is going to show up and 
peer there.

-- 
Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net   http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras
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Re: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-29 Thread Bill Woodcock

On Nov 29, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:

 On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 04:09:55PM -0600, Aaron Wendel wrote:
 According to pch they don't run most of them.  I would say they run 
 very few compared to how many there actually are.
 
 Uhh... Reality check, with the SD acquisition Equinix controls the VAST 
 majority of the IX traffic in the US. The only other IX's doing anything 
 even approaching interesting traffic are NOTA (in Miami), NYIIX (in New 
 York), SIX (in Seattle), and the former AtlantaIX (now Telx TIE) in 
 Atlanta. All are regional players, with very incomplete coverage of the 
 important regions in the US, so if you're peering in the US you're 
 almost guaranteed to be dealing with Equinix. 

I might not state things quite as strongly as RAS, but yes, in essence, that's 
how things stand.  There's a very long tail to the IXP curve, but nearly all of 
the traffic volume in North America is going through Equinix-operated 
facilities, at this point.  RAS has mentioned the main other ones, and I'd 
probably only add Toronto and CoreSite to the list.

-Bill






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Re: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-29 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Nov 29, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote:
 On Nov 29, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 04:09:55PM -0600, Aaron Wendel wrote:
 According to pch they don't run most of them.  I would say they run 
 very few compared to how many there actually are.
 
 Uhh... Reality check, with the SD acquisition Equinix controls the VAST 
 majority of the IX traffic in the US. The only other IX's doing anything 
 even approaching interesting traffic are NOTA (in Miami), NYIIX (in New 
 York), SIX (in Seattle), and the former AtlantaIX (now Telx TIE) in 
 Atlanta. All are regional players, with very incomplete coverage of the 
 important regions in the US, so if you're peering in the US you're 
 almost guaranteed to be dealing with Equinix. 
 
 I might not state things quite as strongly as RAS, but yes, in essence, 
 that's how things stand.  There's a very long tail to the IXP curve, but 
 nearly all of the traffic volume in North America is going through 
 Equinix-operated facilities, at this point.  RAS has mentioned the main other 
 ones, and I'd probably only add Toronto and CoreSite to the list.

The only thing I would change is that Any2 has at least one exchange with 
traffic (Los Angeles) and is distributed throughout the country.

But the vast majority of traffic exchange over IXes in the US is over 
Equinix/PAIX switches.  And a very large amount of traffic over private 
interconnects is also done in their buildings.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick




Re: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-29 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 04:03:21PM -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
 The only thing I would change is that Any2 has at least one exchange 
 with traffic (Los Angeles) and is distributed throughout the country.
 
 But the vast majority of traffic exchange over IXes in the US is over 
 Equinix/PAIX switches.  And a very large amount of traffic over 
 private interconnects is also done in their buildings.

Woops, yes I forgot Any2 (how'd that happen? :P). Like Telx they've 
recently deployed a bunch of new exchanges all over, but there is 
really only the one that does any traffic. :)

For comparison purposes:

http://www.seattleix.net/agg.htm
http://www.nyiix.net/index.php?core=statistics.php
http://tie.telx.com/usage.pl
http://www.coresite.com/peering-any2charts.php

I don't think the combined Equinix / SD numbers are published publicly 
anywhere, but I'm sure it's north of a terabit. :)

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Re: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-29 Thread Fredy Kuenzler

Am 29.11.2010 20:44, schrieb Richard A Steenbergen:

Uhh... Reality check, with the SD acquisition Equinix controls the VAST
majority of the IX traffic in the US. [...]


I was actually quite surprised that, when the merger of Equinix and SD was
announced, no competition commission woke up and regulated it. An order
could have been for example the independence of the former PAIX exchanges.

I don't think in Europe a merger of AMSIX, LINX and DECIX would be accepted
by the EU competition commission. Though these three exchanges are not for
profit, which is, of course, another background.

Fredy Künzler
Init7 / AS13030




Re: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-29 Thread Mehmet Akcin
On Nov 29, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:

 Even combined, no.  It's north of 700 Gbps though.  I am assuming they have 
 combined SD into the graph, though:
 
   https://ix.equinix.com/peeringstats/userHome.do?action=home
 
 Given that Any2 is in the 200 range, Equinix is clearly more - more than all 
 four combined.
 
 But all the traffic on every Equinix and PAIX switch combined, is still lower 
 than the traffic on any one of the three large exchanges in Europe.  It 
 really is all about the PNIs.
 

I wonder how is NOTA like, do they ever make the traffic info public?

Mehmet


RE: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-28 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Would it be fair to say they run most of the peering points within the
States?  I find that peering within Europe is much more open than in the
States.  Does the group feel that is because most of the exchange points
are run as nonprofits?

-Original Message-
From: George Bonser [mailto:gbon...@seven.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:48 AM
To: Ryan Finnesey
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: experience with equinix exchange

I haven't had any specific problems with them but they are a bit
retentive when it comes to doing certain things.  There was the RMA
module that arrived one day.  You have to initiate a shipping ticket
when you think something might arrive.  In other words, you must open a
ticket with them BEFORE something arrives there which can sometimes be a
bit difficult when you are building out a new facility as you have no
idea who is going to ship what when.  They have eased up on that a
little in the past few months, at least at 11 Great Oaks.  Not a
showstopper, just a bit of a pain in the hips, one more little thing
that needs doing and is easily overlooked.

After I replaced that module I went to drop it off at the shipping area,
it came with a return shipper so there wasn't really anything needed
beyond them handing the box to the UPS guy next time he came by ...
another remote hands ticket required for me to hand them a box and for
them to hand the box to someone else.  I suppose I could have dropped it
off myself at a UPS bin on the way home.

BUT, I am overall very pleased with the facility and the operation.
There are little quirky things that make it somewhat of a pain but in my
experience each provider has their own quirks.  At least I can take my
modules in there in the cardboard box, unlike Savvis at 4700 Old
Ironsides where they have a box cop who won't allow a speck of cardboard
past the sign-in window.




 -Original Message-
 From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com]
 Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 7:42 PM
 To: Robert E. Seastrom; Justin Horstman
 Cc: Mehmet Akcin; nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: RE: experience with equinix exchange
 
 I would like to know the issues as well because we are looking to
going
 into at least 4 of their centers.
 Cheers
 Ryan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Robert E. Seastrom [mailto:r...@seastrom.com]
 Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 3:30 AM
 To: Justin Horstman
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Mehmet Akcin
 Subject: Re: experience with equinix exchange
 
 
 Paul is pretty clueful; I think he was asking for specifics as to what

 the layer 8/9 issues are at Equinix, rather than an explanation of
what
 layer 8 and 9 means.
 
 Fly Fast,
 
 -r
 
 
 Justin Horstman justin.horst...@gorillanation.com writes:
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: Paul WALL [mailto:pauldotw...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:55 AM
  To: Mehmet Akcin
  Cc: nanog@nanog.org
  Subject: Re: experience with equinix exchange
 
  What are the layer 8-9 issues?
 
  Drive Slow,
  Paul Wall
 
  On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Mehmet Akcin meh...@akcin.net
  wrote:
  
   On Nov 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Shacolby Jackson wrote:
  
   Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with their exchange
 at
  any of
   their major datacenters, especially Great Oaks? We're wondering
 if
  people
   really love or hate it.
  
   -shac
  
  
   Equinix does a fair job running 7 layers , however the layer8 and
  layer9 seem the lacking part
   which could have been improved greatly. in Great Oaks / SJC ,
they
  seem to be the largest IX
  
   per
  
  
 
 https://www.peeringdb.com/private/exchange_view.php?id=5peerParticip
  an tsPublicsOrder=Sorter_policypeerParticipantsPublicsDir=DESC
  
   so being there while you are in that location seems good, and
they
  are reliable.
  
   mehmet
  
 




RE: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-28 Thread Aaron Wendel
According to pch they don't run most of them.  I would say they run very few  
compared to how many there actually are.


Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless

-Original message-
From: Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 21:45:28 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: experience with equinix exchange

Would it be fair to say they run most of the peering points within the
States?  I find that peering within Europe is much more open than in the
States.  Does the group feel that is because most of the exchange points
are run as nonprofits?

-Original Message-
From: George Bonser [mailto:gbon...@seven.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:48 AM

To: Ryan Finnesey
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: experience with equinix exchange

I haven't had any specific problems with them but they are a bit
retentive when it comes to doing certain things.  There was the RMA
module that arrived one day.  You have to initiate a shipping ticket
when you think something might arrive.  In other words, you must open a
ticket with them BEFORE something arrives there which can sometimes be a
bit difficult when you are building out a new facility as you have no
idea who is going to ship what when.  They have eased up on that a
little in the past few months, at least at 11 Great Oaks.  Not a
showstopper, just a bit of a pain in the hips, one more little thing
that needs doing and is easily overlooked.

After I replaced that module I went to drop it off at the shipping area,
it came with a return shipper so there wasn't really anything needed
beyond them handing the box to the UPS guy next time he came by ...
another remote hands ticket required for me to hand them a box and for
them to hand the box to someone else.  I suppose I could have dropped it
off myself at a UPS bin on the way home.

BUT, I am overall very pleased with the facility and the operation.
There are little quirky things that make it somewhat of a pain but in my
experience each provider has their own quirks.  At least I can take my
modules in there in the cardboard box, unlike Savvis at 4700 Old
Ironsides where they have a box cop who won't allow a speck of cardboard
past the sign-in window.





-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 7:42 PM
To: Robert E. Seastrom; Justin Horstman
Cc: Mehmet Akcin; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: experience with equinix exchange

I would like to know the issues as well because we are looking to

going

into at least 4 of their centers.
Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Robert E. Seastrom [mailto:r...@seastrom.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 3:30 AM
To: Justin Horstman
Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Mehmet Akcin
Subject: Re: experience with equinix exchange


Paul is pretty clueful; I think he was asking for specifics as to what



the layer 8/9 issues are at Equinix, rather than an explanation of

what

layer 8 and 9 means.

Fly Fast,

-r


Justin Horstman justin.horst...@gorillanation.com writes:

 8 users
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 -Original Message-
 From: Paul WALL [mailto:pauldotw...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:55 AM
 To: Mehmet Akcin
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: experience with equinix exchange

 What are the layer 8-9 issues?

 Drive Slow,
 Paul Wall

 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Mehmet Akcin meh...@akcin.net
 wrote:
 
  On Nov 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Shacolby Jackson wrote:
 
  Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with their exchange
at
 any of
  their major datacenters, especially Great Oaks? We're wondering
if
 people
  really love or hate it.
 
  -shac
 
 
  Equinix does a fair job running 7 layers , however the layer8 and
 layer9 seem the lacking part
  which could have been improved greatly. in Great Oaks / SJC ,

they

 seem to be the largest IX
 
  per
 
 

https://www.peeringdb.com/private/exchange_view.php?id=5peerParticip
 an tsPublicsOrder=Sorter_policypeerParticipantsPublicsDir=DESC
 
  so being there while you are in that location seems good, and

they

 are reliable.
 
  mehmet
 






RE: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-28 Thread Ryan Finnesey
I was getting my info from peeringdb I have not yet looked into PCH yet.

From: Aaron Wendel [mailto:aa...@wholesaleinternet.net] 
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 5:10 PM
To: Ryan Finnesey; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: experience with equinix exchange

According to pch they don't run most of them.  I would say they run very few 
compared to how many there actually are.

Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless


-Original message-
From: Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 21:45:28 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: experience with equinix exchange
Would it be fair to say they run most of the peering points within the
States? I find that peering within Europe is much more open than in the
States. Does the group feel that is because most of the exchange points
are run as nonprofits?

-Original Message-
From: George Bonser [mailto:gbon...@seven.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:48 AM
To: Ryan Finnesey
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: experience with equinix exchange

I haven't had any specific problems with them but they are a bit
retentive when it comes to doing certain things. There was the RMA
module that arrived one day. You have to initiate a shipping ticket
when you think something might arrive. In other words, you must open a
ticket with them BEFORE something arrives there which can sometimes be a
bit difficult when you are building out a new facility as you have no
idea who is going to ship what when. They have eased up on that a
little in the past few months, at least at 11 Great Oaks. Not a
showstopper, just a bit of a pain in the hips, one more little thing
that needs doing and is easily overlooked.

After I replaced that module I went to drop it off at the shipping area,
it came with a return shipper so there wasn't really anything needed
beyond them handing the box to the UPS guy next time he came by ...
another remote hands ticket required for me to hand them a box and for
them to hand the box to someone else. I suppose I could have dropped it
off myself at a UPS bin on the way home.

BUT, I am overall very pleased with the facility and the operation.
There are little quirky things that make it somewhat of a pain but in my
experience each provider has their own quirks. At least I can take my
modules in there in the cardboard box, unlike Savvis at 4700 Old
Ironsides where they have a box cop who won't allow a speck of cardboard
past the sign-in window.




 -Original Message-
 From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com]
 Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 7:42 PM
 To: Robert E. Seastrom; Justin Horstman
 Cc: Mehmet Akcin; nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: RE: experience with equinix exchange
 
 I would like to know the issues as well because we are looking to
going
 into at least 4 of their centers.
 Cheers
 Ryan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Robert E. Seastrom [mailto:r...@seastrom.com]
 Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 3:30 AM
 To: Justin Horstman
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Mehmet Akcin
 Subject: Re: experience with equinix exchange
 
 
 Paul is pretty clueful; I think he was asking for specifics as to what

 the layer 8/9 issues are at Equinix, rather than an explanation of
what
 layer 8 and 9 means.
 
 Fly Fast,
 
 -r
 
 
 Justin Horstman writes:
 
  8 users
  9 politics and policies
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul WALL [mailto:pauldotw...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:55 AM
  To: Mehmet Akcin
  Cc: nanog@nanog.org
  Subject: Re: experience with equinix exchange
 
  What are the layer 8-9 issues?
 
  Drive Slow,
  Paul Wall
 
  On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Mehmet Akcin 
  wrote:
  
   On Nov 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Shacolby Jackson wrote:
  
   Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with their exchange
 at
  any of
   their major datacenters, especially Great Oaks? We're wondering
 if
  people
   really love or hate it.
  
   -shac
  
  
   Equinix does a fair job running 7 layers , however the layer8 and
  layer9 seem the lacking part
   which could have been improved greatly. in Great Oaks / SJC ,
they
  seem to be the largest IX
  
   per
  
  
 
 https://www.peeringdb.com/private/exchange_view.php?id=5peerParticip
  an tsPublicsOrder=Sorter_policypeerParticipantsPublicsDir=DESC
  
   so being there while you are in that location seems good, and
they
  are reliable.
  
   mehmet
  
 


RE: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-20 Thread George Bonser
I haven't had any specific problems with them but they are a bit
retentive when it comes to doing certain things.  There was the RMA
module that arrived one day.  You have to initiate a shipping ticket
when you think something might arrive.  In other words, you must open a
ticket with them BEFORE something arrives there which can sometimes be a
bit difficult when you are building out a new facility as you have no
idea who is going to ship what when.  They have eased up on that a
little in the past few months, at least at 11 Great Oaks.  Not a
showstopper, just a bit of a pain in the hips, one more little thing
that needs doing and is easily overlooked.

After I replaced that module I went to drop it off at the shipping area,
it came with a return shipper so there wasn't really anything needed
beyond them handing the box to the UPS guy next time he came by ...
another remote hands ticket required for me to hand them a box and for
them to hand the box to someone else.  I suppose I could have dropped it
off myself at a UPS bin on the way home.

BUT, I am overall very pleased with the facility and the operation.
There are little quirky things that make it somewhat of a pain but in my
experience each provider has their own quirks.  At least I can take my
modules in there in the cardboard box, unlike Savvis at 4700 Old
Ironsides where they have a box cop who won't allow a speck of cardboard
past the sign-in window.




 -Original Message-
 From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com]
 Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 7:42 PM
 To: Robert E. Seastrom; Justin Horstman
 Cc: Mehmet Akcin; nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: RE: experience with equinix exchange
 
 I would like to know the issues as well because we are looking to
going
 into at least 4 of their centers.
 Cheers
 Ryan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Robert E. Seastrom [mailto:r...@seastrom.com]
 Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 3:30 AM
 To: Justin Horstman
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Mehmet Akcin
 Subject: Re: experience with equinix exchange
 
 
 Paul is pretty clueful; I think he was asking for specifics as to what
 the layer 8/9 issues are at Equinix, rather than an explanation of
what
 layer 8 and 9 means.
 
 Fly Fast,
 
 -r
 
 
 Justin Horstman justin.horst...@gorillanation.com writes:
 
  8 users
  9 politics and policies
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul WALL [mailto:pauldotw...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:55 AM
  To: Mehmet Akcin
  Cc: nanog@nanog.org
  Subject: Re: experience with equinix exchange
 
  What are the layer 8-9 issues?
 
  Drive Slow,
  Paul Wall
 
  On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Mehmet Akcin meh...@akcin.net
  wrote:
  
   On Nov 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Shacolby Jackson wrote:
  
   Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with their exchange
 at
  any of
   their major datacenters, especially Great Oaks? We're wondering
 if
  people
   really love or hate it.
  
   -shac
  
  
   Equinix does a fair job running 7 layers , however the layer8 and
  layer9 seem the lacking part
   which could have been improved greatly. in Great Oaks / SJC ,
they
  seem to be the largest IX
  
   per
  
  
 
 https://www.peeringdb.com/private/exchange_view.php?id=5peerParticip
  an tsPublicsOrder=Sorter_policypeerParticipantsPublicsDir=DESC
  
   so being there while you are in that location seems good, and
they
  are reliable.
  
   mehmet
  
 




Re: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-19 Thread Robert E. Seastrom

Paul is pretty clueful; I think he was asking for specifics as to what
the layer 8/9 issues are at Equinix, rather than an explanation of
what layer 8 and 9 means.

Fly Fast,

-r


Justin Horstman justin.horst...@gorillanation.com writes:

 8 users
 9 politics and policies

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul WALL [mailto:pauldotw...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:55 AM
 To: Mehmet Akcin
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: experience with equinix exchange
 
 What are the layer 8-9 issues?
 
 Drive Slow,
 Paul Wall
 
 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Mehmet Akcin meh...@akcin.net
 wrote:
 
  On Nov 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Shacolby Jackson wrote:
 
  Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with their exchange at
 any of
  their major datacenters, especially Great Oaks? We're wondering if
 people
  really love or hate it.
 
  -shac
 
 
  Equinix does a fair job running 7 layers , however the layer8 and
 layer9 seem the lacking part
  which could have been improved greatly. in Great Oaks / SJC , they
 seem to be the largest IX
 
  per
 
 
 https://www.peeringdb.com/private/exchange_view.php?id=5peerParticipan
 tsPublicsOrder=Sorter_policypeerParticipantsPublicsDir=DESC
 
  so being there while you are in that location seems good, and they
 are reliable.
 
  mehmet
 



RE: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-19 Thread Ryan Finnesey
I would like to know the issues as well because we are looking to going
into at least 4 of their centers.
Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Robert E. Seastrom [mailto:r...@seastrom.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 3:30 AM
To: Justin Horstman
Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Mehmet Akcin
Subject: Re: experience with equinix exchange


Paul is pretty clueful; I think he was asking for specifics as to what
the layer 8/9 issues are at Equinix, rather than an explanation of what
layer 8 and 9 means.

Fly Fast,

-r


Justin Horstman justin.horst...@gorillanation.com writes:

 8 users
 9 politics and policies

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul WALL [mailto:pauldotw...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:55 AM
 To: Mehmet Akcin
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: experience with equinix exchange
 
 What are the layer 8-9 issues?
 
 Drive Slow,
 Paul Wall
 
 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Mehmet Akcin meh...@akcin.net
 wrote:
 
  On Nov 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Shacolby Jackson wrote:
 
  Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with their exchange at
 any of
  their major datacenters, especially Great Oaks? We're wondering if
 people
  really love or hate it.
 
  -shac
 
 
  Equinix does a fair job running 7 layers , however the layer8 and
 layer9 seem the lacking part
  which could have been improved greatly. in Great Oaks / SJC , they
 seem to be the largest IX
 
  per
 
 
 https://www.peeringdb.com/private/exchange_view.php?id=5peerParticip
 an tsPublicsOrder=Sorter_policypeerParticipantsPublicsDir=DESC
 
  so being there while you are in that location seems good, and they
 are reliable.
 
  mehmet
 




Re: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-18 Thread Paul WALL
What are the layer 8-9 issues?

Drive Slow,
Paul Wall

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Mehmet Akcin meh...@akcin.net wrote:

 On Nov 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Shacolby Jackson wrote:

 Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with their exchange at any of
 their major datacenters, especially Great Oaks? We're wondering if people
 really love or hate it.

 -shac


 Equinix does a fair job running 7 layers , however the layer8 and layer9 seem 
 the lacking part
 which could have been improved greatly. in Great Oaks / SJC , they seem to be 
 the largest IX

 per

 https://www.peeringdb.com/private/exchange_view.php?id=5peerParticipantsPublicsOrder=Sorter_policypeerParticipantsPublicsDir=DESC

 so being there while you are in that location seems good, and they are 
 reliable.

 mehmet




RE: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-18 Thread Justin Horstman
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 -Original Message-
 From: Paul WALL [mailto:pauldotw...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:55 AM
 To: Mehmet Akcin
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: experience with equinix exchange
 
 What are the layer 8-9 issues?
 
 Drive Slow,
 Paul Wall
 
 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Mehmet Akcin meh...@akcin.net
 wrote:
 
  On Nov 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Shacolby Jackson wrote:
 
  Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with their exchange at
 any of
  their major datacenters, especially Great Oaks? We're wondering if
 people
  really love or hate it.
 
  -shac
 
 
  Equinix does a fair job running 7 layers , however the layer8 and
 layer9 seem the lacking part
  which could have been improved greatly. in Great Oaks / SJC , they
 seem to be the largest IX
 
  per
 
 
 https://www.peeringdb.com/private/exchange_view.php?id=5peerParticipan
 tsPublicsOrder=Sorter_policypeerParticipantsPublicsDir=DESC
 
  so being there while you are in that location seems good, and they
 are reliable.
 
  mehmet
 




Re: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-17 Thread Mehmet Akcin

On Nov 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Shacolby Jackson wrote:

 Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with their exchange at any of
 their major datacenters, especially Great Oaks? We're wondering if people
 really love or hate it.
 
 -shac


Equinix does a fair job running 7 layers , however the layer8 and layer9 seem 
the lacking part 
which could have been improved greatly. in Great Oaks / SJC , they seem to be 
the largest IX

per

https://www.peeringdb.com/private/exchange_view.php?id=5peerParticipantsPublicsOrder=Sorter_policypeerParticipantsPublicsDir=DESC

so being there while you are in that location seems good, and they are reliable.

mehmet