Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
On 13/12/2012 22:28, Nick Hilliard wrote: I also got a quote for BT Diamond IP. I managed to stop laughing some weeks later when I found that they had put me on some spam list of theirs with no unsubscribe option and no response to manual unsubscribe requests (although to be fair, they took me off their spam list about a year later after several more manual requests to be removed). I spoke too soon. Just got more spam today from BT Diamond IP after numerous attempts to get off their mailing lists. Well, that makes me want to become a customer. Even more spam. Nick
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Only if you install it for me, Pierre! :-) (I'm not a sysadmin, I just play one on the Internet) Software prerequisite Netmagis needs the following software:(not the usual yada yada yada, to quote Google) Much appreciated, Eric From: Pierre DAVID pda...@gmail.com To: NANOG Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Sent: Fri, December 21, 2012 7:20:14 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 09:09:40PM -0600, Beavis wrote: +1 for ipplan http://iptrack.sourceforge.net/ May I suggest Netmagis http://netmagis.org ? Pierre P.S.: I'm one of the authors
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Thanks James. We just activated a demo with 6Connect last week. We'll see how it goes. Much appreciated, Eric From: James Wininger jwinin...@ifncom.net To: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Sent: Mon, December 17, 2012 8:56:53 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Eric, We recently migrate away from IPPlan to 6connect. There is significant cost to the application but the end result (IMHO) is well worth it. IPPlan was great that is used MySQL, as many of us use that DB, so integration was easy, but what we were trying to do with the integration on the backend with IPPlan, 6connect does out of the box. DNS integration, RESTful with ARIN, user access control etc. Not trying to sell the product here, just saying that we went through what you are going through and if it helps, I wish we had the time back that we put into IPPlan. They have hosted and local installs available, but they prefer the hosted model. We did local install. -- Jim On Dec 12, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Eric A Louie wrote: I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
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Hey guys - We too are evaluating 6Connect, moving away from BlueCat Proteus. So far so good on the backend and with automation. We start our net ops operational trials tomorrow. Blake -Original Message- From: Eric A Louie [mailto:elo...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:57 AM To: James Wininger Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Thanks James. We just activated a demo with 6Connect last week. We'll see how it goes. Much appreciated, Eric From: James Wininger jwinin...@ifncom.net To: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Sent: Mon, December 17, 2012 8:56:53 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Eric, We recently migrate away from IPPlan to 6connect. There is significant cost to the application but the end result (IMHO) is well worth it. IPPlan was great that is used MySQL, as many of us use that DB, so integration was easy, but what we were trying to do with the integration on the backend with IPPlan, 6connect does out of the box. DNS integration, RESTful with ARIN, user access control etc. Not trying to sell the product here, just saying that we went through what you are going through and if it helps, I wish we had the time back that we put into IPPlan. They have hosted and local installs available, but they prefer the hosted model. We did local install. -- Jim On Dec 12, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Eric A Louie wrote: I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
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On Jan 23, 2013, at 14:42, Blake Gillman bgill...@godaddy.com wrote: Hey guys - We too are evaluating 6Connect, moving away from BlueCat Proteus. What are some of the reasons you are migrating away from BlueCat's products? -Adam So far so good on the backend and with automation. We start our net ops operational trials tomorrow. Blake -Original Message- From: Eric A Louie [mailto:elo...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:57 AM To: James Wininger Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Thanks James. We just activated a demo with 6Connect last week. We'll see how it goes. Much appreciated, Eric From: James Wininger jwinin...@ifncom.net To: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Sent: Mon, December 17, 2012 8:56:53 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Eric, We recently migrate away from IPPlan to 6connect. There is significant cost to the application but the end result (IMHO) is well worth it. IPPlan was great that is used MySQL, as many of us use that DB, so integration was easy, but what we were trying to do with the integration on the backend with IPPlan, 6connect does out of the box. DNS integration, RESTful with ARIN, user access control etc. Not trying to sell the product here, just saying that we went through what you are going through and if it helps, I wish we had the time back that we put into IPPlan. They have hosted and local installs available, but they prefer the hosted model. We did local install. -- Jim On Dec 12, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Eric A Louie wrote: I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
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On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:47:14AM -0800, Eric A Louie wrote: Only if you install it for me, Pierre! :-) (I'm not a sysadmin, I just play one on the Internet) Software prerequisite Netmagis needs the following software:(not the usual yada yada yada, to quote Google) Much appreciated, Eric It not the usual because Netmagis has more than usual functionnalities. You can use a Debian binary package or a FreeBSD port (Netmagis is included in the FreeBSD port collection). Both install all prerequesites for you. http://netmagis.org/download.html Pierre
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I ran Zenoss for a network with about 5k - 7k switches/APs, about 100 L3 devices (routers, firewalls), and about 50 servers/appliances without any polling problems. This was a few years ago on the open source product. With that said, we were reluctant to expand this to monitor the rest of our enterprise as the open source version didn't support distributed polling/collection, which might be the scaling issue Jo mentioned... That, unfortunately, was only available in the paid enterprise one. Other than that, we really liked it. On Dec 25, 2012, at 1:57 AM, Mike Hale eyeronic.des...@gmail.com wrote: Ahhh. That sucks. I've never put our Zenoss installs through quite that much traffic. That's a shame to hear. On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Jo Rhett jrh...@netconsonance.com wrote: Small shop people wise with millions of customers and tens of thousands of application and log-derived data sources. We use Zenoss extensively and mostly we keep having to make decisions what data to pull out of it so it can function. I have previously worked at larger enterprises which had millions of data sources, and Zenoss couldn't dream of handling that, no matter how much hardware we threw at it. On Dec 24, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Mike Hale wrote: Very small shop with millions of data sources? lol? On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Jo Rhett jrh...@netconsonance.comwrote: On Dec 20, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: Zenoss works very well Um... you lost me after the first 4 words. Zenoss might work acceptably for very, very small organizations with very small amounts of data. Zenoss is incapable of scaling to even moderate-sized data sets with tens of thousands of data sources, nevermind medium sized data sets with millions of data sources. I work at a very small shop with three total engineers and Zenoss was unable to scale beyond 1/4 of our data sources with dozens of cores and hundreds of gigabytes of RAM on numerous systems. It doesn't actually use any of these, the internal deadlocks in the architecture make it impossible for it to scale. That Zenoss might make a better IP management tool than what it is purported and sold to do... amuses. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects. -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects. -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
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On Dec 20, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: Zenoss works very well Um... you lost me after the first 4 words. Zenoss might work acceptably for very, very small organizations with very small amounts of data. Zenoss is incapable of scaling to even moderate-sized data sets with tens of thousands of data sources, nevermind medium sized data sets with millions of data sources. I work at a very small shop with three total engineers and Zenoss was unable to scale beyond 1/4 of our data sources with dozens of cores and hundreds of gigabytes of RAM on numerous systems. It doesn't actually use any of these, the internal deadlocks in the architecture make it impossible for it to scale. That Zenoss might make a better IP management tool than what it is purported and sold to do... amuses. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.
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Very small shop with millions of data sources? lol? On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Jo Rhett jrh...@netconsonance.com wrote: On Dec 20, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: Zenoss works very well Um... you lost me after the first 4 words. Zenoss might work acceptably for very, very small organizations with very small amounts of data. Zenoss is incapable of scaling to even moderate-sized data sets with tens of thousands of data sources, nevermind medium sized data sets with millions of data sources. I work at a very small shop with three total engineers and Zenoss was unable to scale beyond 1/4 of our data sources with dozens of cores and hundreds of gigabytes of RAM on numerous systems. It doesn't actually use any of these, the internal deadlocks in the architecture make it impossible for it to scale. That Zenoss might make a better IP management tool than what it is purported and sold to do... amuses. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects. -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
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Small shop people wise with millions of customers and tens of thousands of application and log-derived data sources. We use Zenoss extensively and mostly we keep having to make decisions what data to pull out of it so it can function. I have previously worked at larger enterprises which had millions of data sources, and Zenoss couldn't dream of handling that, no matter how much hardware we threw at it. On Dec 24, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Mike Hale wrote: Very small shop with millions of data sources? lol? On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Jo Rhett jrh...@netconsonance.com wrote: On Dec 20, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: Zenoss works very well Um... you lost me after the first 4 words. Zenoss might work acceptably for very, very small organizations with very small amounts of data. Zenoss is incapable of scaling to even moderate-sized data sets with tens of thousands of data sources, nevermind medium sized data sets with millions of data sources. I work at a very small shop with three total engineers and Zenoss was unable to scale beyond 1/4 of our data sources with dozens of cores and hundreds of gigabytes of RAM on numerous systems. It doesn't actually use any of these, the internal deadlocks in the architecture make it impossible for it to scale. That Zenoss might make a better IP management tool than what it is purported and sold to do... amuses. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects. -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.
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Ahhh. That sucks. I've never put our Zenoss installs through quite that much traffic. That's a shame to hear. On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Jo Rhett jrh...@netconsonance.com wrote: Small shop people wise with millions of customers and tens of thousands of application and log-derived data sources. We use Zenoss extensively and mostly we keep having to make decisions what data to pull out of it so it can function. I have previously worked at larger enterprises which had millions of data sources, and Zenoss couldn't dream of handling that, no matter how much hardware we threw at it. On Dec 24, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Mike Hale wrote: Very small shop with millions of data sources? lol? On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Jo Rhett jrh...@netconsonance.comwrote: On Dec 20, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: Zenoss works very well Um... you lost me after the first 4 words. Zenoss might work acceptably for very, very small organizations with very small amounts of data. Zenoss is incapable of scaling to even moderate-sized data sets with tens of thousands of data sources, nevermind medium sized data sets with millions of data sources. I work at a very small shop with three total engineers and Zenoss was unable to scale beyond 1/4 of our data sources with dozens of cores and hundreds of gigabytes of RAM on numerous systems. It doesn't actually use any of these, the internal deadlocks in the architecture make it impossible for it to scale. That Zenoss might make a better IP management tool than what it is purported and sold to do... amuses. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects. -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects. -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
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On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 09:09:40PM -0600, Beavis wrote: +1 for ipplan http://iptrack.sourceforge.net/ May I suggest Netmagis http://netmagis.org ? Pierre P.S.: I'm one of the authors
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On Dec 20, 2012, at 10:01 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/20/12, Charles N Wyble charles-li...@knownelement.com wrote: Zenoss works very well as a cmdb. Zenoss is very visually appealing, but a monitoring system for network hosts, not a CMDB. In particular, except through extensive custom programming, I see no mechanism to manage CIs with it or query for facts... Zenoss doesn't seem to have any way you can represent or, query, or model a fact that a certain IP address terminates in Vlan X, on device Y, with default gateway IP G that has NSAP ID H, and device Y lives in building A room 1 aisle 2 rack 4 rack slot number 5, fed by breakers 186 and 237, with upstream Ethernet cable ID #G296R plugged into port 39 on patch panel 2, which lands on Switch K port Gig8/44. Networks have many items of importance that are not hosts, also, and are not readily modelled using SNMP. Much less the application layer, physical SW installs or logical groupings layer, or a virtual hosts or internal cloud stack layer. Or tie ins to the release management or DevOps control layer. I know this is NANOG, but configuration control runs a ways up the stack... A proper CMDB will have to be able to take a much bigger picture. Not to slight Zenoss; it's good at what it does do. But that's not a CMDB. That is not to suggest that products that handle a limited slice of the stack in a more organized manner are not valuable. Every little bit helps, in the current absence of a delivered off-the-shelf comprehensive product. But if you've ever watched a comprehensive product run, partnered with a systems deploy tool with all the business logic on physical anti-affinity for power, rack, network layers, ... Provisioning a 1000+ node, 60+ server types app environment into a data center with one command line, selected, booted, network side VLANs allocated and configured, apps installed, apps configured, and ready for traffic... The data to be able to pull that off can be gathered and can be managed and used effectively. That's the power of a real, comprehensive CMDB. George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone
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Racktables does support IPv6. http://demo.racktables.org/ Login: admin PW: admin On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com wrote: Racktables = no IPv6. Bummer, and it does more than what I need. Netdot looks very interesting. It didn't show up when I searched for IPAM. I'll have to evaluate it, to see if it does any kind of wireless documentation (frequency, modulation, etc) Any Netdot users out there who want to comment? Much appreciated, Eric From: Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org To: Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com Cc: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com; NANOG Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 2:25:10 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP On 13/12/2012 10:10, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. I've had a lot more success with Racktables and Netdot, both of which are really good at what they do. Racktables in particular. Nick
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On Thursday 20 December 2012 09:11:43 Saku Ytti wrote: On (2012-12-20 03:24 +), Blake Pfankuch wrote: I actually was doing research on this today as well. Anyone have any experience with the solutions that implement VLAN management as well like Gestioip? I'm not remotely interested in externally developed software for this problem. what do you mean. i'd be fine with an opensource project providing this. But it's fair question. Generally this tool should not be IP or VLAN based but generic resource reservation tool, IP, VLAN, RD, RT, VPLS-ID, site-id, pseudowireID what have you. For me, humans would not do much directly with the tool. They'd give it large chunk of resource. Then maybe mine it to pools like 'coreLink', 'coreLoop', 'custLink', 'custLAN' etc. Then in your provisioning tools, you'd request resource from specific pool via restful API. Humand would never manually write RD/RT/IP/VLAN in the tool or in the configs. And this type of system is vastly simpler than the IPAMs I see listed, once you get rid of all the UI candy, it gets rather easy problem to solve. this is a pretty accurate description of our requirements, as well. off the top of my head we'd also manage phone numbers, key ids, and key box ids, with it, but that would almost be a minor detail. ;-)
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Thilo Bangert (thilo.bangert) writes: Then in your provisioning tools, you'd request resource from specific pool via restful API. Humand would never manually write RD/RT/IP/VLAN in the tool or in the configs. And this type of system is vastly simpler than the IPAMs I see listed, once you get rid of all the UI candy, it gets rather easy problem to solve. this is a pretty accurate description of our requirements, as well. off the top of my head we'd also manage phone numbers, key ids, and key box ids, with it, but that would almost be a minor detail. ;-) I think many of these requirements would be met by Netdot... Cheers, Phil
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On 20/12/2012 09:48, Phil Regnauld wrote: I think many of these requirements would be met by Netdot... netdot doesn't handle vrfs. This is one of its major drawbacks. Nick
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On (2012-12-20 10:30 +0100), Thilo Bangert wrote: I'm not remotely interested in externally developed software for this problem. what do you mean. i'd be fine with an opensource project providing this. If exactly what I want exist, of course I'd love to have it. But evaluating options, working with them until you realise it does not work for you might take more time to just build it in-house to fit your needs and integrate to your existing systems. I have same opinion for NMS also. Everything I see offered is terrible and do not even solve easy-to-solve problems correctly. -- ++ytti
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Saku Ytti (saku) writes: If exactly what I want exist, of course I'd love to have it. But evaluating options, working with them until you realise it does not work for you might take more time to just build it in-house to fit your needs and integrate to your existing systems. http://xkcd.com/927/ I have same opinion for NMS also. Everything I see offered is terrible and do not even solve easy-to-solve problems correctly. Right, that's what's great about Open Source :D Phil
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On (2012-12-20 11:02 +0100), Phil Regnauld wrote: I have same opinion for NMS also. Everything I see offered is terrible and do not even solve easy-to-solve problems correctly. Right, that's what's great about Open Source :D The comment fully applies to system like HP OV or NNM or what is it called today. It does nothing worth while to you without putting hours and hours of work into it. While it's easy to define what every SP wants out of NMS which can be turn-key, without spamming people with so many alarms that they stop caring about them. You can literally start from 0 and in 2h have software to send traps to IRC/XMPP and get alarms from link up/down, isis up/down, bgp up/down, ldp up/down, hardware inserted/removed, PSU offline/online etc. Which already to my demands is superior I can get out of any system in 2h I've looked into. -- ++ytti
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This tool handle most of what you are asking for: http://www.nocproject.org/ -Josh On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 2:30 AM, Thilo Bangert thilo.bang...@gmail.comwrote: On Thursday 20 December 2012 09:11:43 Saku Ytti wrote: On (2012-12-20 03:24 +), Blake Pfankuch wrote: I actually was doing research on this today as well. Anyone have any experience with the solutions that implement VLAN management as well like Gestioip? I'm not remotely interested in externally developed software for this problem. what do you mean. i'd be fine with an opensource project providing this. But it's fair question. Generally this tool should not be IP or VLAN based but generic resource reservation tool, IP, VLAN, RD, RT, VPLS-ID, site-id, pseudowireID what have you. For me, humans would not do much directly with the tool. They'd give it large chunk of resource. Then maybe mine it to pools like 'coreLink', 'coreLoop', 'custLink', 'custLAN' etc. Then in your provisioning tools, you'd request resource from specific pool via restful API. Humand would never manually write RD/RT/IP/VLAN in the tool or in the configs. And this type of system is vastly simpler than the IPAMs I see listed, once you get rid of all the UI candy, it gets rather easy problem to solve. this is a pretty accurate description of our requirements, as well. off the top of my head we'd also manage phone numbers, key ids, and key box ids, with it, but that would almost be a minor detail. ;-)
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On 20/12/2012 16:58, Josh Galvez wrote: This tool handle most of what you are asking for: http://www.nocproject.org/ hard to configure though. When it gets to the stage that it's relatively easy to configure and has good quality documentation, it will be awesome. Nick -Josh On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 2:30 AM, Thilo Bangert thilo.bang...@gmail.comwrote: On Thursday 20 December 2012 09:11:43 Saku Ytti wrote: On (2012-12-20 03:24 +), Blake Pfankuch wrote: I actually was doing research on this today as well. Anyone have any experience with the solutions that implement VLAN management as well like Gestioip? I'm not remotely interested in externally developed software for this problem. what do you mean. i'd be fine with an opensource project providing this. But it's fair question. Generally this tool should not be IP or VLAN based but generic resource reservation tool, IP, VLAN, RD, RT, VPLS-ID, site-id, pseudowireID what have you. For me, humans would not do much directly with the tool. They'd give it large chunk of resource. Then maybe mine it to pools like 'coreLink', 'coreLoop', 'custLink', 'custLAN' etc. Then in your provisioning tools, you'd request resource from specific pool via restful API. Humand would never manually write RD/RT/IP/VLAN in the tool or in the configs. And this type of system is vastly simpler than the IPAMs I see listed, once you get rid of all the UI candy, it gets rather easy problem to solve. this is a pretty accurate description of our requirements, as well. off the top of my head we'd also manage phone numbers, key ids, and key box ids, with it, but that would almost be a minor detail. ;-)
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On 12/20/12, Saku Ytti s...@ytti.fi wrote: On (2012-12-20 03:24 +), Blake Pfankuch wrote: [snip] For me, humans would not do much directly with the tool. They'd give it large chunk of resource. Then maybe mine it to pools like 'coreLink', 'coreLoop', 'custLink', 'custLAN' etc. Then in your provisioning tools, you'd request resource from specific pool via restful API. Humand would never manually write RD/RT/IP/VLAN in the [snip] A CMDB that tracks configuration items. An IP address is just one kind of CI out of thousands. A good CMDBs should ideally provide efficient management, visualization, and reporting for all kinds of CIs Software that tracks such things should understand the internal structure of every kind of CI it tracks, and be able to easily answer simple questions, (eg. Which VLAN ID is assigned to the subnet that IP address Y belongs to. If IP Address Y is part of a static NAT configuration, on a LAN router, what external IP address and external VLAN Id is this IP associated with?). But is there a decently scalable open source application for building a CMDB, that is visually appealing and efficient for humans to use, without a ton of manual development; other than custom building applications and SQL schema by hand, for each kind of CI? I am not aware of one -- -JH
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On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote: ... But is there a decently scalable open source application for building a CMDB, that is visually appealing and efficient for humans to use, without a ton of manual development; other than custom building applications and SQL schema by hand, for each kind of CI? I am not aware of one I have not seen one, and I've been at places that have spent man-years building custom apps and SQL schema by hand in the lack of an available open source tool. -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com
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Zenoss works very well as a cmdb. George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote: ... But is there a decently scalable open source application for building a CMDB, that is visually appealing and efficient for humans to use, without a ton of manual development; other than custom building applications and SQL schema by hand, for each kind of CI? I am not aware of one I have not seen one, and I've been at places that have spent man-years building custom apps and SQL schema by hand in the lack of an available open source tool. -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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On 12/20/12, Charles N Wyble charles-li...@knownelement.com wrote: Zenoss works very well as a cmdb. Zenoss is very visually appealing, but a monitoring system for network hosts, not a CMDB. In particular, except through extensive custom programming, I see no mechanism to manage CIs with it or query for facts... Zenoss doesn't seem to have any way you can represent or, query, or model a fact that a certain IP address terminates in Vlan X, on device Y, with default gateway IP G that has NSAP ID H, and device Y lives in building A room 1 aisle 2 rack 4 rack slot number 5, fed by breakers 186 and 237, with upstream Ethernet cable ID #G296R plugged into port 39 on patch panel 2, which lands on Switch K port Gig8/44. Networks have many items of importance that are not hosts, also, and are not readily modelled using SNMP. -- -JH
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+1 for ipplan http://iptrack.sourceforge.net/ -Ed On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 4:10 AM, Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com wrote: Kindly search the archives for many threads on the same subject, which should be the normal practice. nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. Regards, Aftab A. Siddiqui On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Disclaimer: http://goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
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I actually was doing research on this today as well. Anyone have any experience with the solutions that implement VLAN management as well like Gestioip? -Original Message- From: Beavis [mailto:pfu...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:10 PM To: Aftab Siddiqui Cc: NANOG Operators' Group Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP +1 for ipplan http://iptrack.sourceforge.net/ -Ed On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 4:10 AM, Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com wrote: Kindly search the archives for many threads on the same subject, which should be the normal practice. nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. Regards, Aftab A. Siddiqui On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Disclaimer: http://goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
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On (2012-12-20 03:24 +), Blake Pfankuch wrote: I actually was doing research on this today as well. Anyone have any experience with the solutions that implement VLAN management as well like Gestioip? I'm not remotely interested in externally developed software for this problem. But it's fair question. Generally this tool should not be IP or VLAN based but generic resource reservation tool, IP, VLAN, RD, RT, VPLS-ID, site-id, pseudowireID what have you. For me, humans would not do much directly with the tool. They'd give it large chunk of resource. Then maybe mine it to pools like 'coreLink', 'coreLoop', 'custLink', 'custLAN' etc. Then in your provisioning tools, you'd request resource from specific pool via restful API. Humand would never manually write RD/RT/IP/VLAN in the tool or in the configs. And this type of system is vastly simpler than the IPAMs I see listed, once you get rid of all the UI candy, it gets rather easy problem to solve. -- ++ytti
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Infoblox just started offering the IPAM portion of their software for free, http://www.infoblox.com/en/resources/software-downloads/ip-address-management-freeware.html We've been using the full-blown commercial appliances (IPAM, DHCP, and DNS), not the freeware. I don't know exactly how it works without the other pieces integrated, but it may be worth a look.
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Eric, We recently migrate away from IPPlan to 6connect. There is significant cost to the application but the end result (IMHO) is well worth it. IPPlan was great that is used MySQL, as many of us use that DB, so integration was easy, but what we were trying to do with the integration on the backend with IPPlan, 6connect does out of the box. DNS integration, RESTful with ARIN, user access control etc. Not trying to sell the product here, just saying that we went through what you are going through and if it helps, I wish we had the time back that we put into IPPlan. They have hosted and local installs available, but they prefer the hosted model. We did local install. -- Jim On Dec 12, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Eric A Louie wrote: I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
Kindly search the archives for many threads on the same subject, which should be the normal practice. nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. Regards, Aftab A. Siddiqui On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
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On 13/12/2012 10:10, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. I've had a lot more success with Racktables and Netdot, both of which are really good at what they do. Racktables in particular. Nick
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On 13 Dec 2012, at 12:25 PM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: On 13/12/2012 10:10, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. I've had a lot more success with Racktables and Netdot, both of which are really good at what they do. Racktables in particular. +2c on racktables. Right now we're deprecating IPPlan entirely in favour of Racktables. One day I'll have a round tuit for checking out Netdot. -J
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I've used IPPlan in the past, and it's really useful as a web-based excel-sheet replacement. Plus, the price is right. We're also evaluating Solarwinds' IPAM, but that's way too expensive for the features. On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:31 AM, JP Viljoen froztb...@froztbyte.net wrote: On 13 Dec 2012, at 12:25 PM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: On 13/12/2012 10:10, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. I've had a lot more success with Racktables and Netdot, both of which are really good at what they do. Racktables in particular. +2c on racktables. Right now we're deprecating IPPlan entirely in favour of Racktables. One day I'll have a round tuit for checking out Netdot. -J -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
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A colleague and myself wrote one in PHP that supports v4 and v6. It's available on sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/subnetsmngr/?source=directory We like it. Features Manage subnets and hosts IPv4 and IPv6 support All subnetting math done for you. Auto-allocates and collapses subnets Subnet groups Assign customers to subnets and send SWIPs to ARIN PowerDNS integration to update reverse and A records for hosts Jeremy Malli Mammoth Networks On 12/12/2012 6:22 PM, Eric A Louie wrote: I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
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That is a superb suggestion, Aftab. I actually did a search through the archives for IPAM and IP address management and the results were ... unsatisfactory. Perhaps I used the wrong archive, and you direct me to an alternate: http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/ is the one I used. I've looked at IPPLan but have not installed it yet. Does anyone with direct experience with it care to share their view? Much appreciated, Eric From: Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com To: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com Cc: NANOG Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 2:10:24 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Kindly search the archives for many threads on the same subject, which should be the normal practice. nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. Regards, Aftab A. Siddiqui On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
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Racktables = no IPv6. Bummer, and it does more than what I need. Netdot looks very interesting. It didn't show up when I searched for IPAM. I'll have to evaluate it, to see if it does any kind of wireless documentation (frequency, modulation, etc) Any Netdot users out there who want to comment? Much appreciated, Eric From: Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org To: Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com Cc: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com; NANOG Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 2:25:10 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP On 13/12/2012 10:10, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. I've had a lot more success with Racktables and Netdot, both of which are really good at what they do. Racktables in particular. Nick
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Thanks Jeremy - looks pretty good, and specific, and I like the DNS integration. I haven't downloaded or installed it yet. Do you think it's robust enough for a 24x7 Network Operations Center that has 8 or so users? Is the database a flat file that is easily backed up and restored? or are you using MySQL? Much appreciated, Eric From: Jeremy Malli jma...@mammothnetworks.com To: nanog@nanog.org; elo...@yahoo.com Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 8:26:17 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP A colleague and myself wrote one in PHP that supports v4 and v6. It's available on sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/subnetsmngr/?source=directory Jeremy Malli Mammoth Networks On 12/12/2012 6:22 PM, Eric A Louie wrote: I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
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We're running postgres on the backend due to a limitation we ran into when implementing v6 support in mysql. So standard postgres backup practices would apply. We also run a 24x7 NOC though only 4 support people. It's light on database access so I can't imagine you would have a problem with robustness (it's just PHP/Postgres). We have 8 /19's, a /32 v6 block and a smattering of other blocks that are managed using it. Jeremy On 12/13/2012 10:59 AM, Eric A Louie wrote: Thanks Jeremy - looks pretty good, and specific, and I like the DNS integration. I haven't downloaded or installed it yet. Do you think it's robust enough for a 24x7 Network Operations Center that has 8 or so users? Is the database a flat file that is easily backed up and restored? or are you using MySQL? Much appreciated, Eric *From:* Jeremy Malli jma...@mammothnetworks.com *To:* nanog@nanog.org; elo...@yahoo.com *Sent:* Thu, December 13, 2012 8:26:17 AM *Subject:* Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP A colleague and myself wrote one in PHP that supports v4 and v6. It's available on sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/subnetsmngr/?source=directory Jeremy Malli Mammoth Networks On 12/12/2012 6:22 PM, Eric A Louie wrote: I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
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We've been using ipplan, although it seems the racktables demo site does support ipv6. It looks interesting because it could help us in other ways. Still kind of stuck on ipplan until I find a better solution that understands multiple routing tables since I have many mpls vpn's with overlapping address space. - Original Message - From: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com To: Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org, Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com Cc: NANOG Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:54:11 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Racktables = no IPv6. Bummer, and it does more than what I need. Netdot looks very interesting. It didn't show up when I searched for IPAM. I'll have to evaluate it, to see if it does any kind of wireless documentation (frequency, modulation, etc) Any Netdot users out there who want to comment? Much appreciated, Eric From: Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org To: Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com Cc: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com; NANOG Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 2:25:10 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP On 13/12/2012 10:10, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. I've had a lot more success with Racktables and Netdot, both of which are really good at what they do. Racktables in particular. Nick
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I think 6connect is well worth an eval as well. We've been using it for the InteropNet for a couple of years now and it nicely meets our needs in both v4 and v6, and since you can get it as a hosted application, for a small shop there's zero maintenance. -- Brandon Ross Yahoo AIM: BrandonNRoss +1-404-635-6667ICQ: 2269442 Schedule a meeting: https://doodle.com/brossSkype: brandonross
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phpipam's VRF support looks fairly decent if you haven't checked it out yet. Sent from my iPad On Dec 13, 2012, at 13:15, Walter Keen walter.k...@rainierconnect.net wrote: We've been using ipplan, although it seems the racktables demo site does support ipv6. It looks interesting because it could help us in other ways. Still kind of stuck on ipplan until I find a better solution that understands multiple routing tables since I have many mpls vpn's with overlapping address space. - Original Message - From: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com To: Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org, Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com Cc: NANOG Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:54:11 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Racktables = no IPv6. Bummer, and it does more than what I need. Netdot looks very interesting. It didn't show up when I searched for IPAM. I'll have to evaluate it, to see if it does any kind of wireless documentation (frequency, modulation, etc) Any Netdot users out there who want to comment? Much appreciated, Eric From: Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org To: Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com Cc: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com; NANOG Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 2:25:10 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP On 13/12/2012 10:10, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. I've had a lot more success with Racktables and Netdot, both of which are really good at what they do. Racktables in particular. Nick
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looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. Nobody uses HaCI?
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On 13 Dec 2012, at 17:54, Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com wrote: Racktables = no IPv6. Bummer, and it does more than what I need. Really? I could have sworn I was entering ipv6 data into the ipv6 section in racktables yesterday. Netdot looks very interesting. It didn't show up when I searched for IPAM. I'll have to evaluate it, to see if it does any kind of wireless documentation (frequency, modulation, etc) No, it doesn't do that. Nick Any Netdot users out there who want to comment? Much appreciated, Eric From: Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org To: Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com Cc: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com; NANOG Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 2:25:10 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP On 13/12/2012 10:10, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. I've had a lot more success with Racktables and Netdot, both of which are really good at what they do. Racktables in particular. Nick
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On Wednesday 12 December 2012 17:22:36 Eric A Louie wrote: What are you using and how is it working for you? we are using tipp, and while it doesnt cover all our needs (yet), it's worth a look: http://tipp.tobez.org/ https://github.com/tobez/tipp
RE: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
Eric, you should look at 6connect. They have a good product for IPv4 and IPv6 address management. -Mike -Original Message- From: Eric A Louie [mailto:elo...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:23 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
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From: Mike Hale [mailto:eyeronic.des...@gmail.com] We're also evaluating Solarwinds' IPAM, but that's way too expensive for the features. We've got their netflow software and were considering their IPAM for the seamless integration but you're definitely right on the price; it would have been cost nearly the same as adding an annual full time employee just to manage a few /21's and an /18 insane.
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It looks like it's hosted only - true? That's neither a good or bad - but the MRC could be a concern. Much appreciated, Eric From: Mike Walter mwal...@3z.net To: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com; nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 12:25:44 PM Subject: RE: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Eric, you should look at 6connect. They have a good product for IPv4 and IPv6 address management. -Mike -Original Message- From: Eric A Louie [mailto:elo...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:23 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
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We migrated from excel to IPPLAN (fairly large corp. network, with 150+ global locations),very easy to setup and import data (CSV). Your cost to try it out is near $0 (only money spent is your own $hour). So far the only issue that we encounter now and then is with the search function, though we haven't had time to tshoot. Other than that I think it's a solid solution, and you can't beat the price :) -- Michael Gatti main. 949.371.5474 (UTC -8) On Dec 13, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com wrote: That is a superb suggestion, Aftab. I actually did a search through the archives for IPAM and IP address management and the results were ... unsatisfactory. Perhaps I used the wrong archive, and you direct me to an alternate: http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/ is the one I used. I've looked at IPPLan but have not installed it yet. Does anyone with direct experience with it care to share their view? Much appreciated, Eric From: Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com To: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com Cc: NANOG Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 2:10:24 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Kindly search the archives for many threads on the same subject, which should be the normal practice. nevertheless, IPPlan, PHPIP, PHPIPAM are good enough as per the need. The first one I assume should serve your purpose for both v4 and v6. Regards, Aftab A. Siddiqui On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
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They've had an on-premise product in the past, I'm sure it's still an option. Last time I looked at their VRF support it was still lacking, there's supposed to be improvements to it in 1Q13. Sent from my mobile device, so please excuse any horrible misspellings. On Dec 13, 2012, at 15:48, Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com wrote: It looks like it's hosted only - true? That's neither a good or bad - but the MRC could be a concern. Much appreciated, Eric From: Mike Walter mwal...@3z.net To: Eric A Louie elo...@yahoo.com; nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu, December 13, 2012 12:25:44 PM Subject: RE: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP Eric, you should look at 6connect. They have a good product for IPv4 and IPv6 address management. -Mike -Original Message- From: Eric A Louie [mailto:elo...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:23 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP I'm looking for IPAM solutions for a small regional wireless ISP. There are 4 Tier 2 personnel and 2 NOC technicians who would be using the tool, and a small staff of engineers. They have regionalized IP addresses so blocks are local, but there are subnets that are global. don't care if it's a linux or windows solution. Need to be able to migrate from FreeIPdb (yes, I know, it's a dinosaur) We're not dealing with a lot now, but the potential for growth is pretty high. What are you using and how is it working for you? Much appreciated, Eric
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On Dec 13, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Mike Walter wrote: Eric, you should look at 6connect. They have a good product for IPv4 and IPv6 address management. Agreed, good product, and they have tie-ins to the Registries for filling out and submitting request templates, etc. -b
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On 13/12/2012 19:04, Chris Conn wrote: Nobody uses HaCI? I trialled it for an afternoon before blowing it away. I also had a look at tipp, phpipam and a couple of others before settling on netdot for one client and racktables for another. I also got a quote for BT Diamond IP. I managed to stop laughing some weeks later when I found that they had put me on some spam list of theirs with no unsubscribe option and no response to manual unsubscribe requests (although to be fair, they took me off their spam list about a year later after several more manual requests to be removed). Nick
RE: IP Address Management Tool
I am looking for a management tool which can support BGP Communities/MPLS Tags. And also support conflicting address space uniqued by MPLS RD/RT tags. (For layer3 VPNs). Any ideas? -Original Message- From: D C [mailto:cassel...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2010 1:08 a.m. To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: IP Address Management Tool I am looking for a better way to manage IP addresses. I am currently using an excel spreadsheet, but this is becoming cumbersome as more and more addresses are being added. Does anyone have any recommendations? Thanks, Danielle
Re: IP Address Management Tool
http://www.solarwinds.com/products/freetools/ip_address_tracker/ its free and there are a host of other tools there too, under products some are free others not. -henry - Original Message From: Tim Jackson jackson@gmail.com To: D C cassel...@gmail.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 6:12:07 AM Subject: Re: IP Address Management Tool http://iptrack.sf.net On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:07 AM, D C cassel...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for a better way to manage IP addresses. I am currently using an excel spreadsheet, but this is becoming cumbersome as more and more addresses are being added. Does anyone have any recommendations? Thanks, Danielle
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http://iptrack.sf.net On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:07 AM, D C cassel...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for a better way to manage IP addresses. I am currently using an excel spreadsheet, but this is becoming cumbersome as more and more addresses are being added. Does anyone have any recommendations? Thanks, Danielle
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On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:07 AM, D C cassel...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for a better way to manage IP addresses. I am currently using an excel spreadsheet, but this is becoming cumbersome as more and more addresses are being added. Does anyone have any recommendations? We've found RackTables[1] to meet our needs in IP address management. It also includes some asset management and rack organizing as well (we do, however, have it deployed in one case primarily for the IP address management). [1] http://racktables.org/ --Don Thanks, Danielle
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On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:07 PM, D C cassel...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for a better way to manage IP addresses. I am currently using an excel spreadsheet, but this is becoming cumbersome as more and more addresses are being added. Does anyone have any recommendations? http://tipp.tobez.org/ Under active development at the moment. We've just implemented it and are quite happy with it. Cheers, Bjørn
Re: IP Address Management Tool
There are two that come to mind IP Plan http://iptrack.sourceforge.net/On Jun 1, 2010, at 8:07 AM, D C wrote: and Racktables for IP and rack DC location tracking as well. http://racktables.org/ Marty I am looking for a better way to manage IP addresses. I am currently using an excel spreadsheet, but this is becoming cumbersome as more and more addresses are being added. Does anyone have any recommendations? Thanks, Danielle _ William Marty Buchaus Jr RHCE (RedHat Certified Engineer) - 807101943103186 ICQ: 10579998 AIM: snuffychi Check out the latest Rants and Grumbling at http://snuffy.org yeah that's my Blog! smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: IP Address Management Tool
D C cassel...@gmail.com writes: I am looking for a better way to manage IP addresses. I am currently using an excel spreadsheet, but this is becoming cumbersome as more and more addresses are being added. Does anyone have any recommendations? Somebody recommended http://sourceforge.net/projects/haci/ recently, haven't time to try it. Jens -- - | Foelderichstr. 40 | 13595 Berlin, Germany| +49-151-18721264 | | http://blog.quux.de | jabber: jensl...@guug.de | --- | -
RE: IP Address Management Tool
One of our engineers has started playing with dcTrack from Raritan; he quite likes it so far. It primarily manages information about data centers, like power draw, physical layout, and cable connections. It also provides a change management system tied to power / cabling requirements. In addition to all of that, it will also manage IP addresses. :) http://www.raritan.com/products/infrastructure-management/dctrack/ It is neither open source nor freely available software. It may be (okay, it's likely to be) overkill for your environment. Then again, if a spreadsheet isn't cutting the mustard, you may have other needs along with IP address management. Hope this helps, -Brian Knight Sr. Network Engineer Mizuho Securities USA Inc http://www.mizuhosecurities.com/ * Please note that I do not speak for my employer - only for myself. ** No one I know works for, owns or endorses the company mentioned above. *** All members of the mailing list may consider themselves recipients of this message, in terms of the disclaimer automatically attached below. -Original Message- From: D C [mailto:cassel...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 8:08 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: IP Address Management Tool I am looking for a better way to manage IP addresses. I am currently using an excel spreadsheet, but this is becoming cumbersome as more and more addresses are being added. Does anyone have any recommendations? Thanks, Danielle CONFIDENTIAL: This e-mail, including its contents and attachments, if any, are confidential. It is neither an offer to buy or sell, nor a solicitation of an offer to buy or sell, any securities or any related financial instruments mentioned in it. If you are not the named recipient please notify the sender and immediately delete it. You may not disseminate, distribute, or forward this e-mail message or disclose its contents to anybody else. Unless otherwise indicated, copyright and any other intellectual property rights in its contents are the sole property of Mizuho Securities USA Inc. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. Although we routinely screen for viruses, addressees should check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. We make no representation or warranty as to the absence of viruses in this e-mail or any attachments. Please note that to ensure regulatory compliance and for the protection of our customers and business, we may monitor and read e-mails sent to and from our server(s). #
Re: IP Address Management Tool
On 6/1/10 6:07 AM, D C wrote: I am looking for a better way to manage IP addresses. I am currently using an excel spreadsheet, but this is becoming cumbersome as more and more addresses are being added. Does anyone have any recommendations? I used to use IPplan, but the author was dead set against IPv6 support: One feature request that comes up from time to time is IPv6. Adding IPv6 support will require major effort but has such a limited audience. Ironically the only people that ever requested IPv6 support are either from Telcos, ISP's or government departments, yet they are never interested in contributing resources! I deam them parasites of the Open Source world - leaching off the good will and effort of the Open Source community, yet give nothing in return. This has since been removed from the site, but it gave me a good idea about how the author felt about IPv6 so I stopped using it. I ended up moving to HaCi and it's suited my needs. ~Seth
Re: IP Address Management Tool
He has since reversed that stance and they are working on IPV6 support, at least that is what I read somewhere. I don¹t blame the guy really. If people want a feature they should pony up a little money. Otherwise it is free software with no implied support. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 09:07:23 -0700 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: IP Address Management Tool On 6/1/10 6:07 AM, D C wrote: I am looking for a better way to manage IP addresses. I am currently using an excel spreadsheet, but this is becoming cumbersome as more and more addresses are being added. Does anyone have any recommendations? I used to use IPplan, but the author was dead set against IPv6 support: One feature request that comes up from time to time is IPv6. Adding IPv6 support will require major effort but has such a limited audience. Ironically the only people that ever requested IPv6 support are either from Telcos, ISP's or government departments, yet they are never interested in contributing resources! I deam them parasites of the Open Source world - leaching off the good will and effort of the Open Source community, yet give nothing in return. This has since been removed from the site, but it gave me a good idea about how the author felt about IPv6 so I stopped using it. I ended up moving to HaCi and it's suited my needs. ~Seth
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On 6/1/10 9:22 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: He has since reversed that stance and they are working on IPV6 support, at least that is what I read somewhere. I don¹t blame the guy really. If people want a feature they should pony up a little money. Otherwise it is free software with no implied support. I feel that IPv6 should be a minimum requirement. At the time the author felt it should be an advanced paid-for feature. I treat commercial vendors the same way: no IPv6, no sale. That nastygram made me not want to donate (money or code) to IPplan. One shouldn't get into open source expecting money. The world moves forward and what is seen as a minimum requirement is eventually going to move with it. ~Seth
Re: IP Address Management Tool
D C wrote: I am looking for a better way to manage IP addresses. I am currently using an excel spreadsheet, but this is becoming cumbersome as more and more addresses are being added. Does anyone have any recommendations? Thanks, Danielle Please check out our Network Documentation Tool: http://netdot.uoregon.edu -- = Carlos Vicente Tel: +1(541) 346-1763 Network EngineerFax: +1(541) 346-4397 Information ServicesPGP ID : 8623D99C 1212 University of Oregon Eugene,OR 97403-1205
Re: IP Address Management Tool
Please check out our Network Documentation Tool: http://netdot.uoregon.edu Is there any not-thumbnails screenshots available?
Re: IP Address Management Tool
Seth Mattinen wrote: On 6/1/10 9:22 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: He has since reversed that stance and they are working on IPV6 support, at least that is what I read somewhere. I don¹t blame the guy really. If people want a feature they should pony up a little money. Otherwise it is free software with no implied support. I feel that IPv6 should be a minimum requirement. At the time the author felt it should be an advanced paid-for feature. I treat commercial vendors the same way: no IPv6, no sale. That nastygram made me not want to donate (money or code) to IPplan. One shouldn't get into open source expecting money. The world moves forward and what is seen as a minimum requirement is eventually going to move with it. ~Seth didn't we just have this whole discussion three months ago? that being said, IPv6 exists in the beta versions that are currently available. http://sourceforge.net/projects/iptrack/files/ --Peter
Re: ip address management
Mark Scholten (mark) writes: Hello, I am also working on creating a IP address management tool (including changing rDNS), of course it should work with IPv4 and IPv6. If someone is interested in it, please mail me (so I know I have to inform him/her when I release it). If there are certain features that I should include and are not listed please also inform me about it (by email or via the forum on mscholten.eu). Hi Mark, Considering the number of existing projects that have been mentioned in the last couple of weeks here, and those that haven't, wouldn't it be a good idea to see if any of the existing ones can be adapted or patches sent to the authors so that the required features are integrated ? Not trying to discourage you, and more choice is always good, but it does tend to get confusing ;) Features I have now on my list: - Multi user support (admin - user level 3 - user level 2 - user level 1), a user can create users on lower levels to edit how IPs are assigned from their ranges to their customers (nice for companies with resellers!), of course you could also only create level 1 users. Ideally you should consider some form of role based access control: Create roles, assign users and groups to them, and give rights to the roles. - Multi language support (with language files to translate) - Change rDNS (based on changing PTR records in a MySQL database that could be used by PowerDNS and a script will be provided to convert the MySQL database to Bind files) ... or dynamic updates. Current requirements (to host it, this is what I use to test it, other specs may also work): - To use the rDNS: PowerDNS or Bind nameservers - PHP5 (with MySQLi extension and pear packages Net_IPv4 and Net_IPv6) - MySQL 5 - The option to create a cron if you want to convert the database to a Bind file The planned release date for the first version is this month. That's ambitious :) I've designed and co-developed at least 2 platforms similar to the above, and if you really insist on going this way, I think you should publish some requirement specifications somewhere, and let others come with comments. Nanog is a good starting point, but since this touches on DNS as well, I'm sure a dedicated project page would be more useful, with possibly a wiki to update said specs. Cheers, Phil
Re: ip address management
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 08:40:25AM +1030, Mark Smith wrote: On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:15:30 +0100 Phil Regnauld regna...@nsrc.org wrote: Nick Hilliard (nick) writes: There is a FAQ entry for ipv6 support in ipplan: One feature request that comes up from time to time is IPv6. Adding IPv6 support will require major effort but has such a limited audience. Ironically the only people that ever requested IPv6 support are either from Telcos, ISP?s or government departments, yet they are never interested in contributing resources! I deam them parasites of the Open Source world - leaching off the good will and effort of the Open Source community, yet give nothing in return. Shame. And deam is deem. q.v. http://iptrack.sourceforge.net/doku.php?id=faq I guess we're all entitled to our opinions. Yeah, sad. I think that if he didn't want commercial organisations to use his software, he shouldn't have chosen a licence that permits them to (the GPL according to the home page). If that's his attitude to possible future contributors and to IPv6, then it seems to me that iptrack has jumped the shark. It sounds far more like that's his attitude to those who keep annoying him about supporting something he doesn't care about, without actually contributing anything useful to the project. The data model used in ipplan is to enumerate all IP addresses in the working ranges. This works fine for ipv4, but obviously breaks horribly for ipv6. Political considerations aside, I suspect that this is at least some of the reason that ipplan doesn't support it. It would indeed require a very large screen and lots of memory :) Cheers, Phil -- --
Re: ip address management
Hello Arnd, it would be great if you can put them back. Thank you. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 3:50 AM, Arnd Vehling a...@nethead.de wrote: Hi, Pavel Dimow wrote: does anybody knows what happend with ipat? http://nethead.de/index.php/ipat http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/Tools_and_Resources i did take the sources offline a couple of weeks ago cause there didnt seemed to be a lot interest in the software. If you want i can put em up again or send you a download link but you should keep in mind that this is a carrier grade address management tool which requires quite some time to setup. The IP management stuff has been created ontop of the RIPE whois database, means, you will be running a complete registry server. cheers, Arnd
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On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 09:38:17 + Cian Brennan cian.bren...@redbrick.dcu.ie wrote: On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 08:40:25AM +1030, Mark Smith wrote: On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:15:30 +0100 Phil Regnauld regna...@nsrc.org wrote: Nick Hilliard (nick) writes: There is a FAQ entry for ipv6 support in ipplan: One feature request that comes up from time to time is IPv6. Adding IPv6 support will require major effort but has such a limited audience. Ironically the only people that ever requested IPv6 support are either from Telcos, ISP?s or government departments, yet they are never interested in contributing resources! I deam them parasites of the Open Source world - leaching off the good will and effort of the Open Source community, yet give nothing in return. Shame. And deam is deem. q.v. http://iptrack.sourceforge.net/doku.php?id=faq I guess we're all entitled to our opinions. Yeah, sad. I think that if he didn't want commercial organisations to use his software, he shouldn't have chosen a licence that permits them to (the GPL according to the home page). If that's his attitude to possible future contributors and to IPv6, then it seems to me that iptrack has jumped the shark. It sounds far more like that's his attitude to those who keep annoying him about supporting something he doesn't care about, without actually contributing anything useful to the project. It's fine for him to not want to spend time on people's requests - that is an accepted thing for open source software. But to call people/organisations who use his software legitimately and also make legitimate requests, under *his* chosen license leaches is disingenuous. As I said, if he didn't want commercial users to use his software, or ask for features, then he shouldn't have chosen a license that permits commercial use. Complaining about a situation he has created, by his choice of license, is puerile. The data model used in ipplan is to enumerate all IP addresses in the working ranges. This works fine for ipv4, but obviously breaks horribly for ipv6. Political considerations aside, I suspect that this is at least some of the reason that ipplan doesn't support it. It would indeed require a very large screen and lots of memory :) Cheers, Phil -- --
Re: ip address management
Brian R. Watters wrote: Please do send the dn/load link .. thanks here you go: http://nethead.de/media/files/downloads/ipat/ipadmin-tools.tar.gz http://nethead.de/media/files/downloads/ipat/modrdb.3.3.0-cvs.tar.gz In case you have questions mail me. best regards, Arnd
Re: ip address management
On 02/02/2010 21:14, Scott Berkman wrote: I was about to suggest IPPlan, but it is lacking the V6 support. Here is one I found doing some searching, but I haven't used it myself: We use IPPlan for ipv4 and a fairly flexible, but less fully featured management program called vim for ipv6. Migrating our data out of ipplan to something else is a flashpoint that can lead to error, but we might have to do that. It looks like the lack of ipv6 support in ipplan is partly due to the maintainer not wanting to support it, so we might be tempted to (if the license permits) fork the project and hack in support. We have hacked it a lot already to build user-based containment between resources, so that we can have a vlan schema for many networks, and many customers (with their own logins, and only visability of their own subnets) in the same instance. If we hack v6 support in, we could release the finished project - I think there was opposition to doing that thus far because the developer was embarrassed about some of the hacks ;-) Andy
Re: ip address management
I'm actually writing some IP management code. Web based, it knows about the difference between IPv4 and IPv6 in maybe 3 or 4 places. Intention is to release it publicly when it's good to go. On 3/02/2010, at 10:14 AM, Scott Berkman wrote: I was about to suggest IPPlan, but it is lacking the V6 support. Here is one I found doing some searching, but I haven't used it myself: http://sourceforge.net/projects/haci/ -Scott -Original Message- From: Pavel Dimow [mailto:paveldi...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:55 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: ip address management Hello, does anybody knows what happend with ipat? http://nethead.de/index.php/ipat http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/Tools_and_Resources Any other suggestion for a good foss ip address management app with ipv6 support? !DSPAM:22,4b6895ef126381679815450!
Re: ip address management
Andy Davidson (andy) writes: It looks like the lack of ipv6 support in ipplan is partly due to the maintainer not wanting to support it, so we might be tempted to (if the license permits) It's GPL... So for away :) Also, you might want to look at TIPP: http://tipp.tobez.org/ http://github.com/tobez/tipp 2-clause BSD-style license. Was developed for a large ISP. IPv6 support is planned: Future of TIPP - import/export from/to CSV; - IP availability checks (pinging); - editing ranges of IP addresses at once; - plugin architecture for better integration with the existing systems; - IPv6 support; - installation instructions; - automated install script; - fine-grained access control; - an ability to define new classes; - user documentation; - API documentation; Cheers, Phil
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Phil Regnauld (regnauld) writes: Future of TIPP - import/export from/to CSV; - IP availability checks (pinging); - editing ranges of IP addresses at once; - plugin architecture for better integration with the existing systems; - IPv6 support; Update: IPv6 is planned during february apparently, according to the developer.
Re: ip address management
On 03/02/2010 12:51, Andy Davidson wrote: It looks like the lack of ipv6 support in ipplan is partly due to the maintainer not wanting to support it, so we might be tempted to (if the license permits) fork the project and hack in support. There is a FAQ entry for ipv6 support in ipplan: One feature request that comes up from time to time is IPv6. Adding IPv6 support will require major effort but has such a limited audience. Ironically the only people that ever requested IPv6 support are either from Telcos, ISP’s or government departments, yet they are never interested in contributing resources! I deam them parasites of the Open Source world - leaching off the good will and effort of the Open Source community, yet give nothing in return. q.v. http://iptrack.sourceforge.net/doku.php?id=faq I guess we're all entitled to our opinions. The data model used in ipplan is to enumerate all IP addresses in the working ranges. This works fine for ipv4, but obviously breaks horribly for ipv6. Political considerations aside, I suspect that this is at least some of the reason that ipplan doesn't support it. Nick
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Nick Hilliard (nick) writes: There is a FAQ entry for ipv6 support in ipplan: One feature request that comes up from time to time is IPv6. Adding IPv6 support will require major effort but has such a limited audience. Ironically the only people that ever requested IPv6 support are either from Telcos, ISP?s or government departments, yet they are never interested in contributing resources! I deam them parasites of the Open Source world - leaching off the good will and effort of the Open Source community, yet give nothing in return. Shame. And deam is deem. q.v. http://iptrack.sourceforge.net/doku.php?id=faq I guess we're all entitled to our opinions. Yeah, sad. The data model used in ipplan is to enumerate all IP addresses in the working ranges. This works fine for ipv4, but obviously breaks horribly for ipv6. Political considerations aside, I suspect that this is at least some of the reason that ipplan doesn't support it. It would indeed require a very large screen and lots of memory :) Cheers, Phil
Re: ip address management
Phil Regnauld wrote: Nick Hilliard (nick) writes: There is a FAQ entry for ipv6 support in ipplan: One feature request that comes up from time to time is IPv6. Adding IPv6 support will require major effort but has such a limited audience. Ironically the only people that ever requested IPv6 support are either from Telcos, ISP?s or government departments, yet they are never interested in contributing resources! I deam them parasites of the Open Source world - leaching off the good will and effort of the Open Source community, yet give nothing in return. Shame. And deam is deem. That's a somewhat shallow reading of the motivation for contributing resources to another project in any event... There wasn't a lot of canned address mangement software when I started supporting v6 in a campus environment 10 years ago either. mysql isn't that hard and neither are spreadsheets embedded in wikis. the important part is the business process where the records in the address management system remain congruent with what's represented in the address mangement system. I don't think (although I could be wrong) that most of our organizations are so deliberately helpless that we need a shrinkwrap software package made specifically for the purpose to track foo resource. Having cut my teeth in technical support in era when pc based RDBMSes took over the world, much less technical people then us manage to track employee hours, video rental inventories, beauty supplies, grades etc quite successfully.
Re: ip address management
I want to point out that OpenNetAdmin (ONA) is a great IP/DNS/Host tracking tool, although not supporting IPv6 yet. It's the first GPL I know of that uses the concept of an abstract host which can have multiple DNS names or IPs. I used IPPLAN in the past but have recently converted to ONA for several of our managed projects and been happy since. The developer is actively working on some improvements. I've wrote some script to convert from your BIND/NAME zone file to ONA. As for the interface, you have the option of using its nice AJAX web based or cli through a PHP script. -bn 0216331C On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Pavel Dimow paveldi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, does anybody knows what happend with ipat? http://nethead.de/index.php/ipat http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/Tools_and_Resources Any other suggestion for a good foss ip address management app with ipv6 support?
Re: ip address management
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:15:30 +0100 Phil Regnauld regna...@nsrc.org wrote: Nick Hilliard (nick) writes: There is a FAQ entry for ipv6 support in ipplan: One feature request that comes up from time to time is IPv6. Adding IPv6 support will require major effort but has such a limited audience. Ironically the only people that ever requested IPv6 support are either from Telcos, ISP?s or government departments, yet they are never interested in contributing resources! I deam them parasites of the Open Source world - leaching off the good will and effort of the Open Source community, yet give nothing in return. Shame. And deam is deem. q.v. http://iptrack.sourceforge.net/doku.php?id=faq I guess we're all entitled to our opinions. Yeah, sad. I think that if he didn't want commercial organisations to use his software, he shouldn't have chosen a licence that permits them to (the GPL according to the home page). If that's his attitude to possible future contributors and to IPv6, then it seems to me that iptrack has jumped the shark. The data model used in ipplan is to enumerate all IP addresses in the working ranges. This works fine for ipv4, but obviously breaks horribly for ipv6. Political considerations aside, I suspect that this is at least some of the reason that ipplan doesn't support it. It would indeed require a very large screen and lots of memory :) Cheers, Phil
RE: ip address management
Please take a look at the Network Documentation Tool: http://netdot.uoregon.edu It's more than just IPAM, but it was designed with IPv6 in mind. BTW, I just gave a lighting talk at the I2 Joint Techs meeting in Salt Lake City this morning: http://www.internet2.edu/presentations/jt2010feb/20100203-vincente.pdf Feedback welcome. Regards, Carlos Vicente University of Oregon
Re: ip address management
Hi, Pavel Dimow wrote: does anybody knows what happend with ipat? http://nethead.de/index.php/ipat http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/Tools_and_Resources i did take the sources offline a couple of weeks ago cause there didnt seemed to be a lot interest in the software. If you want i can put em up again or send you a download link but you should keep in mind that this is a carrier grade address management tool which requires quite some time to setup. The IP management stuff has been created ontop of the RIPE whois database, means, you will be running a complete registry server. cheers, Arnd
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Please do send the dn/load link .. thanks - Arnd Vehling a...@nethead.de wrote: Hi, Pavel Dimow wrote: does anybody knows what happend with ipat? http://nethead.de/index.php/ipat http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/Tools_and_Resources i did take the sources offline a couple of weeks ago cause there didnt seemed to be a lot interest in the software. If you want i can put em up again or send you a download link but you should keep in mind that this is a carrier grade address management tool which requires quite some time to setup. The IP management stuff has been created ontop of the RIPE whois database, means, you will be running a complete registry server. cheers, Arnd -- Brian R. Watters Director American Broadband Family of Companies 5718 East Shields Ave Fresno, CA. 93727 brwatt...@absfoc.com http://www.americanbroadbandservice.com tel: 559-420-0205 fax:559-272-5266 toll free: 866-827-4638
RE: ip address management
I was about to suggest IPPlan, but it is lacking the V6 support. Here is one I found doing some searching, but I haven't used it myself: http://sourceforge.net/projects/haci/ -Scott -Original Message- From: Pavel Dimow [mailto:paveldi...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:55 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: ip address management Hello, does anybody knows what happend with ipat? http://nethead.de/index.php/ipat http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/Tools_and_Resources Any other suggestion for a good foss ip address management app with ipv6 support?
