Re: verizon fios bounced a legit private email of mine telling me it was spam and they would not allow it

[Dan Hollis]

This is what's going on at verizon.

http://www.spamhaus.org/news/article/726/

-Dan

On Wed, 13 Jan 2016, Gordon Cook wrote:


dear Nanog

Sorry to bother you,   I am sitting here in shock,   I have been a Verizon to  
FiOS customer for about the past six years at least I think maybe eight.
every now and then the Verizon server will bounce an email back and tell me 
that it’s busy or not functioning but just now it bounced one back and I’m 
sorry I don’t have a screenshot of what it said but it clearly said that it 
considered me to be a spammer.   I may be a lot of things but a spammer I am 
not.  ;-)   when I get an email bounced back Apple OS X  always volunteers to 
use the pair networks server and I always automatically take that choice giving 
it never a second thought.

it also reminded me that there was a limit on the amount of private emails a 
customer could send.

And it said I needed to take the alleged spam and send it to

spamdetector.upd...@verizon.net  and if I remember correctly wait at least an 
hour and then try to send the message again.

Stating very clearly that no human being would talk to me.

what in God’s name is going on?   Please a year and a half or two years ago 
when a route  to Ecuador was being filtered a couple of NANOG folk  knew whom 
to contact and the problem was fixed in record time.   I am hoping   that I 
will experience the same thing.   I should not be a stranger to any old time 
Nanog-ers.   but right now I’m feeling really paranoid!

Re: verizon fios bounced a legit private email of mine telling me it was spam and they would not allow it

[Eric Oosting]

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Christopher Morrow <
morrowc.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

> '4 MILLION IP ADDRESSES!!!'
>

What is that, an /106?

-e


> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Dan Hollis 
> wrote:
> > This is what's going on at verizon.
> >
> > http://www.spamhaus.org/news/article/726/
> >
> > -Dan
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Jan 2016, Gordon Cook wrote:
> >
> >> dear Nanog
> >>
> >> Sorry to bother you,   I am sitting here in shock,   I have been a
> Verizon
> >> to  FiOS customer for about the past six years at least I think maybe
> eight.
> >> every now and then the Verizon server will bounce an email back and
> tell me
> >> that it’s busy or not functioning but just now it bounced one back and
> I’m
> >> sorry I don’t have a screenshot of what it said but it clearly said
> that it
> >> considered me to be a spammer.   I may be a lot of things but a spammer
> I am
> >> not.  ;-)   when I get an email bounced back Apple OS X  always
> volunteers
> >> to use the pair networks server and I always automatically take that
> choice
> >> giving it never a second thought.
> >>
> >> it also reminded me that there was a limit on the amount of private
> emails
> >> a customer could send.
> >>
> >> And it said I needed to take the alleged spam and send it to
> >>
> >> spamdetector.upd...@verizon.net  and if I remember correctly wait at
> least
> >> an hour and then try to send the message again.
> >>
> >> Stating very clearly that no human being would talk to me.
> >>
> >> what in God’s name is going on?   Please a year and a half or two years
> >> ago when a route  to Ecuador was being filtered a couple of NANOG folk
> knew
> >> whom to contact and the problem was fixed in record time.   I am hoping
> >> that I will experience the same thing.   I should not be a stranger to
> any
> >> old time Nanog-ers.   but right now I’m feeling really paranoid!
> >>
> >
>

Re: verizon fios bounced a legit private email of mine telling me it was spam and they would not allow it

[Christopher Morrow]

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Eric Oosting  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Christopher Morrow
>  wrote:
>>
>> '4 MILLION IP ADDRESSES!!!'
>
>
> What is that, an /106?

FALSE! only ipv4 on fios!! silly people and their 'more than 32 bits'
addresses... ha! fiction I say!!

> -e
>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Dan Hollis 
>> wrote:
>> > This is what's going on at verizon.
>> >
>> > http://www.spamhaus.org/news/article/726/
>> >
>> > -Dan
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, 13 Jan 2016, Gordon Cook wrote:
>> >
>> >> dear Nanog
>> >>
>> >> Sorry to bother you,   I am sitting here in shock,   I have been a
>> >> Verizon
>> >> to  FiOS customer for about the past six years at least I think maybe
>> >> eight.
>> >> every now and then the Verizon server will bounce an email back and
>> >> tell me
>> >> that it’s busy or not functioning but just now it bounced one back and
>> >> I’m
>> >> sorry I don’t have a screenshot of what it said but it clearly said
>> >> that it
>> >> considered me to be a spammer.   I may be a lot of things but a spammer
>> >> I am
>> >> not.  ;-)   when I get an email bounced back Apple OS X  always
>> >> volunteers
>> >> to use the pair networks server and I always automatically take that
>> >> choice
>> >> giving it never a second thought.
>> >>
>> >> it also reminded me that there was a limit on the amount of private
>> >> emails
>> >> a customer could send.
>> >>
>> >> And it said I needed to take the alleged spam and send it to
>> >>
>> >> spamdetector.upd...@verizon.net  and if I remember correctly wait at
>> >> least
>> >> an hour and then try to send the message again.
>> >>
>> >> Stating very clearly that no human being would talk to me.
>> >>
>> >> what in God’s name is going on?   Please a year and a half or two years
>> >> ago when a route  to Ecuador was being filtered a couple of NANOG folk
>> >> knew
>> >> whom to contact and the problem was fixed in record time.   I am hoping
>> >> that I will experience the same thing.   I should not be a stranger to
>> >> any
>> >> old time Nanog-ers.   but right now I’m feeling really paranoid!
>> >>
>> >
>
>

Re: verizon fios bounced a legit private email of mine telling me it was spam and they would not allow it

[Christopher Morrow]

'4 MILLION IP ADDRESSES!!!'

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Dan Hollis  wrote:
> This is what's going on at verizon.
>
> http://www.spamhaus.org/news/article/726/
>
> -Dan
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Jan 2016, Gordon Cook wrote:
>
>> dear Nanog
>>
>> Sorry to bother you,   I am sitting here in shock,   I have been a Verizon
>> to  FiOS customer for about the past six years at least I think maybe eight.
>> every now and then the Verizon server will bounce an email back and tell me
>> that it’s busy or not functioning but just now it bounced one back and I’m
>> sorry I don’t have a screenshot of what it said but it clearly said that it
>> considered me to be a spammer.   I may be a lot of things but a spammer I am
>> not.  ;-)   when I get an email bounced back Apple OS X  always volunteers
>> to use the pair networks server and I always automatically take that choice
>> giving it never a second thought.
>>
>> it also reminded me that there was a limit on the amount of private emails
>> a customer could send.
>>
>> And it said I needed to take the alleged spam and send it to
>>
>> spamdetector.upd...@verizon.net  and if I remember correctly wait at least
>> an hour and then try to send the message again.
>>
>> Stating very clearly that no human being would talk to me.
>>
>> what in God’s name is going on?   Please a year and a half or two years
>> ago when a route  to Ecuador was being filtered a couple of NANOG folk  knew
>> whom to contact and the problem was fixed in record time.   I am hoping
>> that I will experience the same thing.   I should not be a stranger to any
>> old time Nanog-ers.   but right now I’m feeling really paranoid!
>>
>

Re: verizon fios bounced a legit private email of mine telling me it was spam and they would not allow it

[Rafael Possamai]

What a disgrace.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Dan Hollis  wrote:

> This is what's going on at verizon.
>
> http://www.spamhaus.org/news/article/726/
>
> -Dan
>
>

Re: verizon fios bounced a legit private email of mine telling me it was spam and they would not allow it

[Dan Hollis]

complacency. it's a winning formula.

-Dan

On Thu, 14 Jan 2016, Christopher Morrow wrote:


'4 MILLION IP ADDRESSES!!!'

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Dan Hollis  wrote:

This is what's going on at verizon.

http://www.spamhaus.org/news/article/726/

-Dan


On Wed, 13 Jan 2016, Gordon Cook wrote:


dear Nanog

Sorry to bother you,   I am sitting here in shock,   I have been a Verizon
to  FiOS customer for about the past six years at least I think maybe eight.
every now and then the Verizon server will bounce an email back and tell me
that it’s busy or not functioning but just now it bounced one back and I’m
sorry I don’t have a screenshot of what it said but it clearly said that it
considered me to be a spammer.   I may be a lot of things but a spammer I am
not.  ;-)   when I get an email bounced back Apple OS X  always volunteers
to use the pair networks server and I always automatically take that choice
giving it never a second thought.

it also reminded me that there was a limit on the amount of private emails
a customer could send.

And it said I needed to take the alleged spam and send it to

spamdetector.upd...@verizon.net  and if I remember correctly wait at least
an hour and then try to send the message again.

Stating very clearly that no human being would talk to me.

what in God’s name is going on?   Please a year and a half or two years
ago when a route  to Ecuador was being filtered a couple of NANOG folk  knew
whom to contact and the problem was fixed in record time.   I am hoping
that I will experience the same thing.   I should not be a stranger to any
old time Nanog-ers.   but right now I’m feeling really paranoid!