RE: Route Science
As someone that used the routescience/avaya product for 6-7 years and then also demoed the IRP I can tell you that the IRP has a lot of similar functionality that the routescience/avaya CNA product had. The nice thing about the Noction product (the demo at least?) is that you aren't locked into an ancient IBM xServer with a 32 bit kernel like you were with the Avaya product. You can install it on your own machines, so in theory it should be possible to scale it. Scaling was the only reason we decommissioned our CNA, otherwise we'd still be using it. -Drew -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Greg Grabowski Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:41 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Route Science Does anyone still have a Route Science box running out there? Our enterprise still has a box running and working. Just curious..;-)
Re: Route Science
Hi, Thanks for mentioning our name. Our platform does routing optimization but also includes plug play monitoring and reporting tools for network troubleshooting and planning. You can check our brochure at: http://www.border6.com/files/Border6_NSI_en.pdf Do not hesitate to contact me off-list, I’ll provide documentation and can run live demo. -- Regards, Pawel Rybczyk Regional Manager BORDER 6 sp. z o.o. pawel.rybc...@border6.com office: +48 22 242 89 51 (ext.103) mobile: +48 664 300 375 On 11/16/2014 04:03 AM, Jimmy Hess wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Clayton Zekelman clay...@mnsi.net wrote: I would also wonder if someone has more details about how useful and good the Avaya/Routescience are in practice after significant time in deployment in the real world on a large network, were they worth whatever the price tag was to get and maintain ? Oh, and how about Border6 ?I believe they have marketing language claiming to be able to achieve some similar things, in regards to automatic path optimizations and rerouting. :) http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240046663/Google-chooses-RouteScience-Internet-technology Yeah, there are always great news stories.But media tends to exagerate things, and I think when it comes to enterprise products it's strictly promotional. When was the last time you heard a followup news story on one of those sorts of things 1yr later about BigCo dropped Vendor X product because they felt it's no longer worth it, the savings were less than expected and did not exceed the cost of the product, the actual thing fell short of marketing claims, or didn't actually work out so well, etc, etc. -- -JH
Re: Route Science
Didn't Avaya completely drop the old Route Science line at this point? Internap still sells their FCP appliance which does similar things and of course Internap has their own MIRO system they have been using for probably 15+ years now to optimize paths out of their own datacenters/colos. Like the fellow from Border6 mentioned you can get a wealth of information out of the systems along with the path optimization. Phil On 11/16/14, 3:03 AM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Clayton Zekelman clay...@mnsi.net wrote: I would also wonder if someone has more details about how useful and good the Avaya/Routescience are in practice after significant time in deployment in the real world on a large network, were they worth whatever the price tag was to get and maintain ? Oh, and how about Border6 ?I believe they have marketing language claiming to be able to achieve some similar things, in regards to automatic path optimizations and rerouting. :) http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240046663/Google-chooses-RouteScience -Internet-technology Yeah, there are always great news stories.But media tends to exagerate things, and I think when it comes to enterprise products it's strictly promotional. When was the last time you heard a followup news story on one of those sorts of things 1yr later about BigCo dropped Vendor X product because they felt it's no longer worth it, the savings were less than expected and did not exceed the cost of the product, the actual thing fell short of marketing claims, or didn't actually work out so well, etc, etc. -- -JH
Re: Route Science
There's another option called the Noction IRP. I've been told that it's a cheaper FCP replacement. On 11/17/2014 午前 12:42, Phil Bedard wrote: Didn't Avaya completely drop the old Route Science line at this point? Internap still sells their FCP appliance which does similar things and of course Internap has their own MIRO system they have been using for probably 15+ years now to optimize paths out of their own datacenters/colos. Like the fellow from Border6 mentioned you can get a wealth of information out of the systems along with the path optimization. Phil On 11/16/14, 3:03 AM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Clayton Zekelman clay...@mnsi.net wrote: I would also wonder if someone has more details about how useful and good the Avaya/Routescience are in practice after significant time in deployment in the real world on a large network, were they worth whatever the price tag was to get and maintain ? Oh, and how about Border6 ?I believe they have marketing language claiming to be able to achieve some similar things, in regards to automatic path optimizations and rerouting. :) http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240046663/Google-chooses-RouteScience -Internet-technology Yeah, there are always great news stories.But media tends to exagerate things, and I think when it comes to enterprise products it's strictly promotional. When was the last time you heard a followup news story on one of those sorts of things 1yr later about BigCo dropped Vendor X product because they felt it's no longer worth it, the savings were less than expected and did not exceed the cost of the product, the actual thing fell short of marketing claims, or didn't actually work out so well, etc, etc. -- -JH
Re: Route Science
What is that? Never heard of that before. Some kind of routing data collection project? On 14-Nov-2014, at 10:11 am, Greg Grabowski ggrabo...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone still have a Route Science box running out there? Our enterprise still has a box running and working. Just curious..;-) -- Anurag Bhatia http://anuragbhatia.com http://anuragbhatia.com/ signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: Route Science
http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240046663/Google-chooses-RouteScience-Internet-technology At 05:41 PM 15/11/2014, Anurag Bhatia wrote: What is that? Never heard of that before. Some kind of routing data collection project? On 14-Nov-2014, at 10:11 am, Greg Grabowski ggrabo...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone still have a Route Science box running out there? Our enterprise still has a box running and working. Just curious..;-) -- Anurag Bhatia http://anuragbhatia.com http://anuragbhatia.com/ --- Clayton Zekelman Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E Windsor, Ontario N8W 1H4 tel. 519-985-8410 fax. 519-985-8409
Re: Route Science
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Clayton Zekelman clay...@mnsi.net wrote: I would also wonder if someone has more details about how useful and good the Avaya/Routescience are in practice after significant time in deployment in the real world on a large network, were they worth whatever the price tag was to get and maintain ? Oh, and how about Border6 ?I believe they have marketing language claiming to be able to achieve some similar things, in regards to automatic path optimizations and rerouting. :) http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240046663/Google-chooses-RouteScience-Internet-technology Yeah, there are always great news stories.But media tends to exagerate things, and I think when it comes to enterprise products it's strictly promotional. When was the last time you heard a followup news story on one of those sorts of things 1yr later about BigCo dropped Vendor X product because they felt it's no longer worth it, the savings were less than expected and did not exceed the cost of the product, the actual thing fell short of marketing claims, or didn't actually work out so well, etc, etc. -- -JH
Route Science
Does anyone still have a Route Science box running out there? Our enterprise still has a box running and working. Just curious..;-)
