Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-13 Thread Henry Linneweh
Blackbox also has some offerings in this area, made to order
http://www.blackbox.com/solutions/infrastructure/Wireless-Bridges.aspx


-henry




From: Andrey Khomyakov 
To: Nanog 
Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 4:23:24 PM
Subject: Re: Rugged wireless bridge

I found this sucker so far, I guess it has to be waterproof rather than just 
rugged.

http://www.korenixsecurity.com/products/weatherproof-ethernet-switch/jetnet-3706-rj



On May 12, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:

> Not sure how outdoor-worthy those guys are...
> 
> -Mike
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:
> 
>> On 5/12/2010 15:53, Andrey Khomyakov wrote:
>>> Hi all again
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all the links. Lots of wifi solutions. The main problem I'm
>> facing is the fact that I need more than one copper ethernet connection at
>> those outdoor locations. Meaning that I'll have at least two or three IP
>> cameras (PoE desired) and a automatic security gate. So, I feel like some
>> outdoor rated copper ethernet switches with PoE is the hardest part here.
>>> 
>>> Anyone came across any 5-8 port PoE switches that can be put outdoors?
>>> 
>> 
>> Like these?
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.bb-elec.com/product_multi_family.asp?MultiFamilyId=90&Trail=1&TrailType=Top
>> 
>> The EIRP305-T and EIRP610-2SFP-T have POE.
>> 
>> ~Seth
>> 
>> 



Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Pete Carah
On 05/12/2010 08:30 PM, Pete Carah wrote:
> On 05/12/2010 07:23 PM, Andrey Khomyakov wrote:
>   
>> I found this sucker so far, I guess it has to be waterproof rather than just 
>> rugged.
>>
>> http://www.korenixsecurity.com/products/weatherproof-ethernet-switch/jetnet-3706-rj
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
> And,
> http://www.sixnet.com/product/8-port-ip67-ethernet-managed-unmanaged-switch-116.cfm
>
> I bet it isn't cheap...  And I don't know where you get the connectors,
> either.
>
> -- Pete
And:

http://www.weidmuller.com/ethernet/ip67switches

Note that Digikey sells IP67 RJ45's (don't know whose) for only $7 each...
I'm afraid to ask about the mil ones from sixnet...

-- Pete




Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Pete Carah
On 05/12/2010 07:23 PM, Andrey Khomyakov wrote:
> I found this sucker so far, I guess it has to be waterproof rather than just 
> rugged.
>
> http://www.korenixsecurity.com/products/weatherproof-ethernet-switch/jetnet-3706-rj
>
>
>   
And,
http://www.sixnet.com/product/8-port-ip67-ethernet-managed-unmanaged-switch-116.cfm

I bet it isn't cheap...  And I don't know where you get the connectors,
either.

-- Pete

> On May 12, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:
>
>   
>> Not sure how outdoor-worthy those guys are...
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> On 5/12/2010 15:53, Andrey Khomyakov wrote:
>>>   
 Hi all again

 Thanks for all the links. Lots of wifi solutions. The main problem I'm
 
>>> facing is the fact that I need more than one copper ethernet connection at
>>> those outdoor locations. Meaning that I'll have at least two or three IP
>>> cameras (PoE desired) and a automatic security gate. So, I feel like some
>>> outdoor rated copper ethernet switches with PoE is the hardest part here.
>>>   
 Anyone came across any 5-8 port PoE switches that can be put outdoors?

 
>>> Like these?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.bb-elec.com/product_multi_family.asp?MultiFamilyId=90&Trail=1&TrailType=Top
>>>
>>> The EIRP305-T and EIRP610-2SFP-T have POE.
>>>
>>> ~Seth
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>
>
>   




Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Andrey Khomyakov
I found this sucker so far, I guess it has to be waterproof rather than just 
rugged.

http://www.korenixsecurity.com/products/weatherproof-ethernet-switch/jetnet-3706-rj



On May 12, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:

> Not sure how outdoor-worthy those guys are...
> 
> -Mike
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:
> 
>> On 5/12/2010 15:53, Andrey Khomyakov wrote:
>>> Hi all again
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all the links. Lots of wifi solutions. The main problem I'm
>> facing is the fact that I need more than one copper ethernet connection at
>> those outdoor locations. Meaning that I'll have at least two or three IP
>> cameras (PoE desired) and a automatic security gate. So, I feel like some
>> outdoor rated copper ethernet switches with PoE is the hardest part here.
>>> 
>>> Anyone came across any 5-8 port PoE switches that can be put outdoors?
>>> 
>> 
>> Like these?
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.bb-elec.com/product_multi_family.asp?MultiFamilyId=90&Trail=1&TrailType=Top
>> 
>> The EIRP305-T and EIRP610-2SFP-T have POE.
>> 
>> ~Seth
>> 
>> 




Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/12/2010 16:11, Mike Lyon wrote:
> Not sure how outdoor-worthy those guys are...
> 


Put them in a box.

~Seth



Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Andrey Khomyakov
I got a two floor parking ram and a surface lot, so in a nut shell I have to do 
this twice.

Two separate wifi links, two PoE switches 4-6 cameras at each location plus the 
entrance gates all IP enabled.

Andrey


On May 12, 2010, at 7:00 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:

> Andrey,
> 
> Some of the UBNT gear have two ethernet ports, some models pass PoE, some 
> don't.
> 
> What I would do is to get a switch with or without PoE, put them into a NEMA 
> 4 enclosure. Then put water-proof ethernet feedthrough bushings on the 
> enclosure.
> 
> How many locations do you have to do this at? 
> 
> -Mike
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Andrey Khomyakov 
>  wrote:
> Hi all again
> 
> Thanks for all the links. Lots of wifi solutions. The main problem I'm facing 
> is the fact that I need more than one copper ethernet connection at those 
> outdoor locations. Meaning that I'll have at least two or three IP cameras 
> (PoE desired) and a automatic security gate. So, I feel like some outdoor 
> rated copper ethernet switches with PoE is the hardest part here.
> 
> Anyone came across any 5-8 port PoE switches that can be put outdoors?
> 
> thanks again
> 



Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Mike Lyon
Not sure how outdoor-worthy those guys are...

-Mike


On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:

> On 5/12/2010 15:53, Andrey Khomyakov wrote:
> > Hi all again
> >
> > Thanks for all the links. Lots of wifi solutions. The main problem I'm
> facing is the fact that I need more than one copper ethernet connection at
> those outdoor locations. Meaning that I'll have at least two or three IP
> cameras (PoE desired) and a automatic security gate. So, I feel like some
> outdoor rated copper ethernet switches with PoE is the hardest part here.
> >
> > Anyone came across any 5-8 port PoE switches that can be put outdoors?
> >
>
> Like these?
>
>
> http://www.bb-elec.com/product_multi_family.asp?MultiFamilyId=90&Trail=1&TrailType=Top
>
> The EIRP305-T and EIRP610-2SFP-T have POE.
>
> ~Seth
>
>


Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/12/2010 15:53, Andrey Khomyakov wrote:
> Hi all again
> 
> Thanks for all the links. Lots of wifi solutions. The main problem I'm facing 
> is the fact that I need more than one copper ethernet connection at those 
> outdoor locations. Meaning that I'll have at least two or three IP cameras 
> (PoE desired) and a automatic security gate. So, I feel like some outdoor 
> rated copper ethernet switches with PoE is the hardest part here.
> 
> Anyone came across any 5-8 port PoE switches that can be put outdoors?
> 

Like these?

http://www.bb-elec.com/product_multi_family.asp?MultiFamilyId=90&Trail=1&TrailType=Top

The EIRP305-T and EIRP610-2SFP-T have POE.

~Seth



Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Pete Carah
On 05/12/2010 06:53 PM, Andrey Khomyakov wrote:
> Hi all again
>
> Thanks for all the links. Lots of wifi solutions. The main problem I'm facing 
> is the fact that I need more than one copper ethernet connection at those 
> outdoor locations. Meaning that I'll have at least two or three IP cameras 
> (PoE desired) and a automatic security gate. So, I feel like some outdoor 
> rated copper ethernet switches with PoE is the hardest part here.
>
> Anyone came across any 5-8 port PoE switches that can be put outdoors?
>   
My friends all seem to be using ubiquiti wi-fi stuff lately.

Somehow I've gotten on these guy's (paper catalog) mailing list.  Not
cheap, and I've never actually used them...  Also there are other
vendors in the industrial-electronics arena:

http://www.bb-elec.com/

Don't know about their quality either, but in the industrial-electronics
field one doesn't last long with bad stuff.

-- Pete

> thanks again
>
>   




Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Mike Lyon
Andrey,

Some of the UBNT gear have two ethernet ports, some models pass PoE, some
don't.

What I would do is to get a switch with or without PoE, put them into a NEMA
4 enclosure. Then put water-proof ethernet feedthrough bushings on the
enclosure.

How many locations do you have to do this at?

-Mike


On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Andrey Khomyakov <
khomyakov.and...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all again
>
> Thanks for all the links. Lots of wifi solutions. The main problem I'm
> facing is the fact that I need more than one copper ethernet connection at
> those outdoor locations. Meaning that I'll have at least two or three IP
> cameras (PoE desired) and a automatic security gate. So, I feel like some
> outdoor rated copper ethernet switches with PoE is the hardest part here.
>
> Anyone came across any 5-8 port PoE switches that can be put outdoors?
>
> thanks again
>


Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Andrey Khomyakov
Hi all again

Thanks for all the links. Lots of wifi solutions. The main problem I'm facing 
is the fact that I need more than one copper ethernet connection at those 
outdoor locations. Meaning that I'll have at least two or three IP cameras (PoE 
desired) and a automatic security gate. So, I feel like some outdoor rated 
copper ethernet switches with PoE is the hardest part here.

Anyone came across any 5-8 port PoE switches that can be put outdoors?

thanks again


Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Hugh Irvine

I've had the same problems with the WAP200E units - 3 DOA before getting two 
that worked.

regards

Hugh


On 12 May 2010, at 02:02, Shane Short wrote:

> I've had multiple issues with the WAP200E units in the field-- from the 
> Internal PoE cabling being crushed and not working properly, to finding some 
> of the internal antennas wern't even soldered to the PCB properly.
> 
> I'd definitely +1 on the ubiquiti stuff. however, they've been extremely 
> solid.
> 
> 
> On 11/05/2010, at 11:30 PM, Curtis Maurand wrote:
> 
>> On 5/11/2010 9:36 AM, Andrey Khomyakov wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I need to provide IP connectivity to an outdoor parking lot for security
>>> devices like a camera, and emergency phone and a gate. Does anyone have any
>>> suggestions on a wireless bridge and an outdoor rated switch if such exists?
>>> How do people provide IP to outdoor locations like a surface parking lot?
>>> 
>>> 
>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10050/index.html
>> 
>> --Curtis
> 
> 



NB: 

Have you read the reference manual ("doc/ref.html")?
Have you searched the mailing list archive (www.open.com.au/archives/radiator)?
Have you had a quick look on Google (www.google.com)?
Have you included a copy of your configuration file (no secrets), 
together with a trace 4 debug showing what is happening?

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anywhere. Available on *NIX, *BSD, Windows, MacOS X.
Includes support for reliable RADIUS transport (RadSec),
and DIAMETER translation agent.
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Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-11 Thread Paul Bosworth
Hey Andrey,

I've deployed Cisco Aironet 1300's for specifically what you're looking to
do (as well as remote ATM connectivity). They are robust and have great
centralized management tools if you have a large deployment.  They're also
very flexible and obviously have great support from the manufacturer.

Thanks

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Andrey Khomyakov <
khomyakov.and...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I need to provide IP connectivity to an outdoor parking lot for security
> devices like a camera, and emergency phone and a gate. Does anyone have any
> suggestions on a wireless bridge and an outdoor rated switch if such
> exists?
> How do people provide IP to outdoor locations like a surface parking lot?
>
> Thanks,
> Andrey
>
> --
> Andrey Khomyakov
> [khomyakov.and...@gmail.com]
>



-- 
Paul H Bosworth
GSEC, GCFW, GCIH
CCNP, CCIP, CCDP


Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-11 Thread Shane Short
I've had multiple issues with the WAP200E units in the field-- from the 
Internal PoE cabling being crushed and not working properly, to finding some of 
the internal antennas wern't even soldered to the PCB properly.

I'd definitely +1 on the ubiquiti stuff. however, they've been extremely solid.


On 11/05/2010, at 11:30 PM, Curtis Maurand wrote:

> On 5/11/2010 9:36 AM, Andrey Khomyakov wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I need to provide IP connectivity to an outdoor parking lot for security
>> devices like a camera, and emergency phone and a gate. Does anyone have any
>> suggestions on a wireless bridge and an outdoor rated switch if such exists?
>> How do people provide IP to outdoor locations like a surface parking lot?
>> 
>>   
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10050/index.html
> 
> --Curtis




Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-11 Thread Curtis Maurand

On 5/11/2010 9:36 AM, Andrey Khomyakov wrote:

Hi all,

I need to provide IP connectivity to an outdoor parking lot for security
devices like a camera, and emergency phone and a gate. Does anyone have any
suggestions on a wireless bridge and an outdoor rated switch if such exists?
How do people provide IP to outdoor locations like a surface parking lot?

   

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10050/index.html

--Curtis


Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-11 Thread todd glassey
On 5/11/2010 6:57 AM, Truman Boyes wrote:
> You can use a soekris embedded computer. (http://soekris.com/). You can put 
> the boards into rugged cases like this:
> 
> http://socalfreenet.org/node/267
> 
> Here is the case:
> 
> http://www.yourbroadbandstore.com/product.php?pid=201838
> 
> Kind regards,
> Truman
> 
> 
> On 11/05/2010, at 9:36 AM, Andrey Khomyakov wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I need to provide IP connectivity to an outdoor parking lot for security
>> devices like a camera, and emergency phone and a gate. Does anyone have any
>> suggestions on a wireless bridge and an outdoor rated switch if such exists?
>> How do people provide IP to outdoor locations like a surface parking lot?

If it is going into a FIPS compliant deployment or there is legal impact
of this system I would suggest something like the FortressTech ES520
which is approved for military rollout in battlefield applications.

These are NOT cheap but you get what you pay for in todays world hopefully.

The case the 520 is packaged in is unlike any other WAP I have worked
with and we used them quite a bit for wireless-time services.

http://www.fortresstech.com/Products/SecWiBridges.aspx

Todd Glassey
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andrey
>>
>> -- 
>> Andrey Khomyakov
>> [khomyakov.and...@gmail.com]
>>
> 
> 
> 

<>

Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-11 Thread Roy

Lots of good stuff here

http://www.wlanparts.com/

I have had good luck with the Ez-Bridge Lite



On 5/11/2010 6:36 AM, Andrey Khomyakov wrote:

Hi all,

I need to provide IP connectivity to an outdoor parking lot for security
devices like a camera, and emergency phone and a gate. Does anyone have any
suggestions on a wireless bridge and an outdoor rated switch if such exists?
How do people provide IP to outdoor locations like a surface parking lot?

Thanks,
Andrey

   





Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-11 Thread Truman Boyes
You can use a soekris embedded computer. (http://soekris.com/). You can put the 
boards into rugged cases like this:

http://socalfreenet.org/node/267

Here is the case:

http://www.yourbroadbandstore.com/product.php?pid=201838

Kind regards,
Truman


On 11/05/2010, at 9:36 AM, Andrey Khomyakov wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I need to provide IP connectivity to an outdoor parking lot for security
> devices like a camera, and emergency phone and a gate. Does anyone have any
> suggestions on a wireless bridge and an outdoor rated switch if such exists?
> How do people provide IP to outdoor locations like a surface parking lot?
> 
> Thanks,
> Andrey
> 
> -- 
> Andrey Khomyakov
> [khomyakov.and...@gmail.com]
> 




Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-11 Thread Andrey Khomyakov
Hi all,

I need to provide IP connectivity to an outdoor parking lot for security
devices like a camera, and emergency phone and a gate. Does anyone have any
suggestions on a wireless bridge and an outdoor rated switch if such exists?
How do people provide IP to outdoor locations like a surface parking lot?

Thanks,
Andrey

-- 
Andrey Khomyakov
[khomyakov.and...@gmail.com]