Re: Verizon Email to SMS gateway

[Josh Luthman]

A delay wouldn't make sense if it's a lack of FCC registration.
Undeliverable would.

My messages to vtext have worked well, it took <5 minutes as recently as
November 10.

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:27 PM Randy Carpenter 
wrote:

>
> That is the understanding I got when discussing the situation with our
> engineering contact there.
>
> thanks,
> -Randy
>
>
> - On Nov 17, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Eric Tykwinski eric-l...@truenet.com
> wrote:
>
> > As a side note, will the email to text gateways be subject to the FCC's
> A2P
> > 10DLC registration requirements?
> > I'm wondering if that's part of the reason for not officially supporting
> email
> > to text.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Eric Tykwinski
> > TrueNet, Inc.
> > P: 610-429-8300
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: NANOG  On Behalf
> Of Randy
> >> Carpenter
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 12:09 PM
> >> To: Justin H. 
> >> Cc: NANOG 
> >> Subject: Re: Verizon Email to SMS gateway
> >>
> >>
> >> We did a few months back and were told that they are no longer
> officially
> >> supporting it. It may have to do with the volume that is being sent, >
> >> particularly from a single IP address.
> >>
> >> We moved to using Twilio's API and it has been much more solid.
> >>
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >> -Randy
> >>
> >>
> >> - On Nov 17, 2022, at 11:56 AM, Justin H. justindh...@gmail.com
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Anyone else seeing massive delays in Verizon's email to SMS gateway
> >> > lately?  I'm seeing delays on emails to @vtext and @vzwpix addresses
> >> > at anywhere form 45 minutes to 12 hours.
> >> >
> > > > Justin H.
>

Re: Verizon Email to SMS gateway

[Randy Carpenter]

That is the understanding I got when discussing the situation with our 
engineering contact there.

thanks,
-Randy


- On Nov 17, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Eric Tykwinski eric-l...@truenet.com wrote:

> As a side note, will the email to text gateways be subject to the FCC's A2P
> 10DLC registration requirements?
> I'm wondering if that's part of the reason for not officially supporting email
> to text.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Eric Tykwinski
> TrueNet, Inc.
> P: 610-429-8300
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: NANOG  On Behalf Of 
>> Randy
>> Carpenter
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 12:09 PM
>> To: Justin H. 
>> Cc: NANOG 
>> Subject: Re: Verizon Email to SMS gateway
>>
>>
>> We did a few months back and were told that they are no longer officially
>> supporting it. It may have to do with the volume that is being sent, >
>> particularly from a single IP address.
>>
>> We moved to using Twilio's API and it has been much more solid.
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>> -Randy
>>
>>
>> - On Nov 17, 2022, at 11:56 AM, Justin H. justindh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > Anyone else seeing massive delays in Verizon's email to SMS gateway
>> > lately?  I'm seeing delays on emails to @vtext and @vzwpix addresses
>> > at anywhere form 45 minutes to 12 hours.
>> > 
> > > Justin H.

RE: Verizon Email to SMS gateway

[Eric Tykwinski via NANOG]

As a side note, will the email to text gateways be subject to the FCC's A2P 
10DLC registration requirements?
I'm wondering if that's part of the reason for not officially supporting email 
to text.

Sincerely,

Eric Tykwinski
TrueNet, Inc.
P: 610-429-8300

> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG  On Behalf Of 
> Randy Carpenter
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 12:09 PM
> To: Justin H. 
> Cc: NANOG 
> Subject: Re: Verizon Email to SMS gateway
>
>
> We did a few months back and were told that they are no longer officially 
> supporting it. It may have to do with the volume that is being sent, > 
> particularly from a single IP address.
>
> We moved to using Twilio's API and it has been much more solid.
>
>
> thanks,
> -Randy
>
>
> - On Nov 17, 2022, at 11:56 AM, Justin H. justindh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Anyone else seeing massive delays in Verizon's email to SMS gateway 
> > lately?  I'm seeing delays on emails to @vtext and @vzwpix addresses 
> > at anywhere form 45 minutes to 12 hours.
> > 
> > Justin H.

Re: Verizon Email to SMS gateway

[Randy Carpenter]

We did a few months back and were told that they are no longer officially 
supporting it. It may have to do with the volume that is being sent, 
particularly from a single IP address.

We moved to using Twilio's API and it has been much more solid.


thanks,
-Randy


- On Nov 17, 2022, at 11:56 AM, Justin H. justindh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Anyone else seeing massive delays in Verizon's email to SMS gateway
> lately?  I'm seeing delays on emails to @vtext and @vzwpix addresses at
> anywhere form 45 minutes to 12 hours.
> 
> Justin H.

Verizon Email to SMS gateway

[Justin H.]

Anyone else seeing massive delays in Verizon's email to SMS gateway 
lately?  I'm seeing delays on emails to @vtext and @vzwpix addresses at 
anywhere form 45 minutes to 12 hours.


Justin H.

RE: SMS Gateway

[frnkblk]

With earlier releases I did see our unit "lock up", in the sense they
wouldn't send messages.  A reboot resolved those issues.  The last two or
three releases from Multitech for iSMS have been solid, none of those issues
anymore.

Frank

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Nick Nauwelaerts
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 3:10 AM
To: Graham Johnston <johnst...@westmancom.com>; 'nanog@nanog.org'
<nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: RE: SMS Gateway

The multitech multimodems I run seem to like rebooting an awful lot, they do
it at least daily.

At another position I did like the SMS FoxBox ( http://www.smsfoxbox.it/ ),
which had a simple http put command (amongst other interfaces) which allowed
you to send text messages. The do seem to have gone up in price a bit since
2008 however, but they did never fail on me over the 6years they were in
service (sample size was 2 units, so not the best indicator).

// nick



-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Graham Johnston
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 16:54
To: 'nanog@nanog.org' <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: SMS Gateway

Today we use a product from MultiTech Systems call MultiModem iSMS to send
SMS text messages from our monitoring system to our on call staff.  This is
a 2G product and we need to replace it soon. I know there are more generic
cellular modems that can do texting if you are willing to put in the effort,
the product we use currently though has a simple HTTP based API specifically
to send SMS. Is anybody out there using something similar that can work on
3G or 4G networks?





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RE: SMS Gateway

[Clayton Zekelman]

As a retro twist on that, we still use alpha pagers with 
TAP.   Basement level coverage on a single AA battery that lasts 3 months.


The nice thing about them is that you can turn your cellphone off at 
night (yes, I do that), and still know that important alerts will 
come through the pager.


At 01:36 PM 15/09/2015, Gary T. Giesen wrote:

Another option might be an analog modem + phone line + carrier TAP gateway
(if your carrier(s) has/have one). Might or might not be more
cost-effective.

GTG

> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Martin
> Hotze
> Sent: September 15, 2015 8:37 AM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: SMS Gateway
>
> > From: Leonardo Arena <rna...@gmail.com>
> > To: Graham Johnston <johnst...@westmancom.com>
> > Cc: "'nanog@nanog.org'" <nanog@nanog.org>
> >
> > Il giorno lun, 14/09/2015 alle 14.53 +, Graham Johnston ha scritto:
> > > Today we use a product from MultiTech Systems call MultiModem iSMS
> > > to
> > send SMS text messages from our monitoring system to our on call staff.
> > This is a 2G product and we need to replace it soon. I know there are
> > more generic cellular modems that can do texting if you are willing to
> > put in the effort, the product we use currently though has a simple
> > HTTP based API specifically to send SMS. Is anybody out there using
> > something similar that can work on 3G or 4G networks?
> > >
> >
> > Here we use SMSTools (http://smstools3.kekekasvi.com/) on a Linux box
> > with a Multitech Serial/USB modem. It takes formatted text files from
> > a spooling directory. It never let us down since some years.
>
> +1 for smstools.
>
> and I'd add playsms.org
>
> grab yourself a compatible USB 3G stick which you can switch to a modem.
eg
> a HUAWEI E1762 should work. You might want to look into a device with an
> antenna plug so you can put the antenne out of your cabinet for better
> reception.
>
> martin


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RE: SMS Gateway

[Nick Nauwelaerts]

The multitech multimodems I run seem to like rebooting an awful lot, they do it 
at least daily.

At another position I did like the SMS FoxBox ( http://www.smsfoxbox.it/ ), 
which had a simple http put command (amongst other interfaces) which allowed 
you to send text messages. The do seem to have gone up in price a bit since 
2008 however, but they did never fail on me over the 6years they were in 
service (sample size was 2 units, so not the best indicator).

// nick



-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Graham Johnston
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 16:54
To: 'nanog@nanog.org' <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: SMS Gateway

Today we use a product from MultiTech Systems call MultiModem iSMS to send SMS 
text messages from our monitoring system to our on call staff.  This is a 2G 
product and we need to replace it soon. I know there are more generic cellular 
modems that can do texting if you are willing to put in the effort, the product 
we use currently though has a simple HTTP based API specifically to send SMS. 
Is anybody out there using something similar that can work on 3G or 4G networks?





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RE: SMS Gateway

[Gary T. Giesen]

Another option might be an analog modem + phone line + carrier TAP gateway
(if your carrier(s) has/have one). Might or might not be more
cost-effective.

GTG

> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Martin
> Hotze
> Sent: September 15, 2015 8:37 AM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: SMS Gateway
> 
> > From: Leonardo Arena <rna...@gmail.com>
> > To: Graham Johnston <johnst...@westmancom.com>
> > Cc: "'nanog@nanog.org'" <nanog@nanog.org>
> >
> > Il giorno lun, 14/09/2015 alle 14.53 +, Graham Johnston ha scritto:
> > > Today we use a product from MultiTech Systems call MultiModem iSMS
> > > to
> > send SMS text messages from our monitoring system to our on call staff.
> > This is a 2G product and we need to replace it soon. I know there are
> > more generic cellular modems that can do texting if you are willing to
> > put in the effort, the product we use currently though has a simple
> > HTTP based API specifically to send SMS. Is anybody out there using
> > something similar that can work on 3G or 4G networks?
> > >
> >
> > Here we use SMSTools (http://smstools3.kekekasvi.com/) on a Linux box
> > with a Multitech Serial/USB modem. It takes formatted text files from
> > a spooling directory. It never let us down since some years.
> 
> +1 for smstools.
> 
> and I'd add playsms.org
> 
> grab yourself a compatible USB 3G stick which you can switch to a modem.
eg
> a HUAWEI E1762 should work. You might want to look into a device with an
> antenna plug so you can put the antenne out of your cabinet for better
> reception.
> 
> martin

Re: SMS Gateway

[Martin Hotze]

> From: Leonardo Arena 
> To: Graham Johnston 
> Cc: "'nanog@nanog.org'" 
> 
> Il giorno lun, 14/09/2015 alle 14.53 +, Graham Johnston ha scritto:
> > Today we use a product from MultiTech Systems call MultiModem iSMS to
> send SMS text messages from our monitoring system to our on call staff.
> This is a 2G product and we need to replace it soon. I know there are more
> generic cellular modems that can do texting if you are willing to put in
> the effort, the product we use currently though has a simple HTTP based
> API specifically to send SMS. Is anybody out there using something similar
> that can work on 3G or 4G networks?
> >
> 
> Here we use SMSTools (http://smstools3.kekekasvi.com/) on a Linux box
> with a Multitech Serial/USB modem. It takes formatted text files from a
> spooling directory. It never let us down since some years.

+1 for smstools.

and I'd add playsms.org

grab yourself a compatible USB 3G stick which you can switch to a modem. eg a 
HUAWEI E1762 should work. You might want to look into a device with an antenna 
plug so you can put the antenne out of your cabinet for better reception.

martin

SMS Gateway

[Graham Johnston]

Today we use a product from MultiTech Systems call MultiModem iSMS to send SMS 
text messages from our monitoring system to our on call staff.  This is a 2G 
product and we need to replace it soon. I know there are more generic cellular 
modems that can do texting if you are willing to put in the effort, the product 
we use currently though has a simple HTTP based API specifically to send SMS. 
Is anybody out there using something similar that can work on 3G or 4G networks?

Graham Johnston
Network Planner
Westman Communications Group
204.717.2829
johnst...@westmancom.com
P think green; don't print this email.

Re: SMS Gateway

[John Orthoefer]

Take a look at 

https://learn.adafruit.com/network-interface-failover-using-fona

If you want to see what Alan is talking about.  I’ve not used the Adafruit 
card, yet.  But it’s on my hacking list of to-do.  

johno



> On Sep 14, 2015, at 11:08 AM, a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> Today we use a product from MultiTech Systems call MultiModem iSMS to send 
>> SMS text messages from our monitoring system to our on call staff.  This is 
>> a 2G product and we need to replace it soon. I know there are more generic 
>> cellular modems that can do texting if you are willing to put in the effort, 
>> the product we use currently though has a simple HTTP based API specifically 
>> to send SMS. Is anybody out there using something similar that can work on 
>> 3G or 4G networks?
> 
> we have a Linux box with a 3G device attached via serial port. some
> local scripts and a lookup table - sends SMS alerts for monitoring to
> the required people. very basic, very simple. RaspberryPI territory.
> 
> alan

Re: SMS Gateway

[Mel Beckman]

For most of us, the issue is that we don’t want to do this over the Internet, 
since that’s what we are monitoring :)

 -mel

> On Sep 14, 2015, at 9:06 AM, ITechGeek  wrote:
> 
> I know a bunch of people who just use email -> sms gateways (although I
> think all carriers have a disclaimer that messages aren't guaranteed).
> 
> Depending on your SMS costs, you could also outsource this to a service
> such as Twilio.
> 
> As Alan said, RaspberryPi should be able to handle this for under $100
> worth of equipment (including the Pi & Cell modem).
> 
> 
> 
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> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 11:08 AM,  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>>> Today we use a product from MultiTech Systems call MultiModem iSMS to
>> send SMS text messages from our monitoring system to our on call staff.
>> This is a 2G product and we need to replace it soon. I know there are more
>> generic cellular modems that can do texting if you are willing to put in
>> the effort, the product we use currently though has a simple HTTP based API
>> specifically to send SMS. Is anybody out there using something similar that
>> can work on 3G or 4G networks?
>> 
>> we have a Linux box with a 3G device attached via serial port. some
>> local scripts and a lookup table - sends SMS alerts for monitoring to
>> the required people. very basic, very simple. RaspberryPI territory.
>> 
>> alan
>> 

Re: SMS Gateway

[ITechGeek]

I know a bunch of people who just use email -> sms gateways (although I
think all carriers have a disclaimer that messages aren't guaranteed).

Depending on your SMS costs, you could also outsource this to a service
such as Twilio.

As Alan said, RaspberryPi should be able to handle this for under $100
worth of equipment (including the Pi & Cell modem).



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On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 11:08 AM,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > Today we use a product from MultiTech Systems call MultiModem iSMS to
> send SMS text messages from our monitoring system to our on call staff.
> This is a 2G product and we need to replace it soon. I know there are more
> generic cellular modems that can do texting if you are willing to put in
> the effort, the product we use currently though has a simple HTTP based API
> specifically to send SMS. Is anybody out there using something similar that
> can work on 3G or 4G networks?
>
> we have a Linux box with a 3G device attached via serial port. some
> local scripts and a lookup table - sends SMS alerts for monitoring to
> the required people. very basic, very simple. RaspberryPI territory.
>
> alan
>

Re: SMS Gateway

[A . L . M . Buxey]

Hi,

> Today we use a product from MultiTech Systems call MultiModem iSMS to send 
> SMS text messages from our monitoring system to our on call staff.  This is a 
> 2G product and we need to replace it soon. I know there are more generic 
> cellular modems that can do texting if you are willing to put in the effort, 
> the product we use currently though has a simple HTTP based API specifically 
> to send SMS. Is anybody out there using something similar that can work on 3G 
> or 4G networks?

we have a Linux box with a 3G device attached via serial port. some
local scripts and a lookup table - sends SMS alerts for monitoring to
the required people. very basic, very simple. RaspberryPI territory.

alan

Re: SMS Gateway

[Roland Dobbins]

On 14 Sep 2015, at 21:53, Graham Johnston wrote:


Today we use a product from MultiTech Systems


Wow, that brings back some memories - they made rock-solid datasets and 
modems and terminal concentrators, back in the day.


Good to know they're still around!

---
Roland Dobbins 

Re: SMS Gateway

[A . L . M . Buxey]

Hi,
> For most of us, the issue is that we don’t want to do this over the Internet, 
> since that’s what we are monitoring :)

exactly :-)

alan

Re: SMS Gateway

[Baldur Norddahl]

I dropped the SMS messages after I found the aNag Android app. Granted it
requires that people on call stay within areas with cell data or wifi
coverage, but I found that this is not a great problem around here.

The app approach gives a much richer experience. It will keep buzzing until
acknowledge, unlike a message that can be overheard. It even solves the
problem with using the internet for communication while monitoring the
internet - because if the monitoring server is unavailable that is an alarm
by itself.

Even though it polls once a minute, it does not ruin your dataplan. Last
month my aNag used 25 MB on mobile and 17 MB on wifi according to my
cellphone.

And best of all, it is really simple. No need to buy any hardware or put a
lot of effort into it. It is an app that monitors your existing monitoring
system directly.

Regards,

Baldur

Re: SMS Gateway

[Faisal Imtiaz]

If you don't mind integrating a solution (for greater flexibility)

Take a look at the Mikrotik router + Cellular Modem + M2M Plan.

e.g. 
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Cellular_SIMcom_modems_01
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Option_Globetrotter_HSDPA_USB_Modem
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Tools/Sms
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Monitoring_Network_thru_SMS_Alerts
https://aacable.wordpress.com/2012/11/22/howto-enable-mikrotik-to-sendreceive-sms-using-gsm-modem/

BTW. One of the folks who is a subject matter expert on Mikrotik + Cell Modem 
etc is Brian Vargas of Baltic Networks.

etc etc etc...

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Graham Johnston" <johnst...@westmancom.com>
> To: "nanog list" <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:53:58 AM
> Subject: SMS Gateway

> Today we use a product from MultiTech Systems call MultiModem iSMS to send SMS
> text messages from our monitoring system to our on call staff.  This is a 2G
> product and we need to replace it soon. I know there are more generic cellular
> modems that can do texting if you are willing to put in the effort, the 
> product
> we use currently though has a simple HTTP based API specifically to send SMS.
> Is anybody out there using something similar that can work on 3G or 4G
> networks?
> 
> Graham Johnston
> Network Planner
> Westman Communications Group
> 204.717.2829
> johnst...@westmancom.com<mailto:johnst...@westmancom.com>
> P think green; don't print this email.

Re: SMS Gateway

[Leonardo Arena]

Il giorno lun, 14/09/2015 alle 14.53 +, Graham Johnston ha scritto:
> Today we use a product from MultiTech Systems call MultiModem iSMS to send 
> SMS text messages from our monitoring system to our on call staff.  This is a 
> 2G product and we need to replace it soon. I know there are more generic 
> cellular modems that can do texting if you are willing to put in the effort, 
> the product we use currently though has a simple HTTP based API specifically 
> to send SMS. Is anybody out there using something similar that can work on 3G 
> or 4G networks?
> 

Here we use SMSTools (http://smstools3.kekekasvi.com/) on a Linux box
with a Multitech Serial/USB modem. It takes formatted text files from a
spooling directory. It never let us down since some years.

HTH

- leo


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ATT Email/SMS gateway outage

[Drew Linsalata]

Marginally operational, but I'm sure there are at least a few folks using
that service as part of monitoring, so it probably bears mentioning.

ATT appears to be having an email-to-SMS gateway issue.  Messages sent to
xxx...@txt.att.net are not being delivered to handsets.  No bounce, but
no delivery either. As a workaround, messages sent to
xxx...@mms.att.netdo do get delivered.  Confirmed in the NYC metro
area and in Chicago at the
moment.
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Re: ATT Email/SMS gateway outage

[Adam Kennedy]

This appears to have just been restored.

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From: Drew Linsalata drew.linsal...@gmail.commailto:drew.linsal...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:00:25 -0400
To: NANOG nanog@nanog.orgmailto:nanog@nanog.org
Subject: ATT Email/SMS gateway outage

Marginally operational, but I'm sure there are at least a few folks using
that service as part of monitoring, so it probably bears mentioning.

ATT appears to be having an email-to-SMS gateway issue.  Messages sent to
xxx...@txt.att.netmailto:xxx...@txt.att.net are not being delivered 
to handsets.  No bounce, but
no delivery either. As a workaround, messages sent to
xxx...@mms.att.netdomailto:xxx...@mms.att.netdo do get delivered.  
Confirmed in the NYC metro
area and in Chicago at the
moment.
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