Re: South Carolina attempts to repeal Rule 34

2016-12-20 Thread John Levine 
In article  
you write:
>Let's call it for what it is. It's a new tax.

No, it's just grandstanding.  The proposed law egregiously violates
the First Amendment and wouldn't last 5 minutes in a court challenge.

R's,
John

Re: South Carolina attempts to repeal Rule 34

2016-12-20 Thread Stephen Satchell 
On 12/19/2016 11:39 PM, Jay Hennigan wrote:
> Break out the popcorn.
> 
> http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article121673402.html
> 

"A bill pre-filed this month by state Rep. Bill Chumley would require
sellers to install digital blocking capabilities on computers and other
devices that access the internet to prevent the viewing of obscene content."

1.  Buy computer without the $20 tax
2.  Erase operating system
3.  Install Linux Mint (or one's favourite distribution)
4.  PROFIT!

"The bill would fine manufacturers that sell a device without the
blocking system..."

How about if the manufacturer doesn't install an operating system?

Getting this vaguely back to NANOG territory, this is a far greater
improvement over the "plan" to have ISPs block the traffic on their side
of the customer/ISP interface.  THAT is just an invitation to pick up a
mallet and play whack-a-mole...

(N.B.: if this were extended to other states, like Nevada, then stores
like Suzie's in Reno would only increase their business selling porn DVDs.)

Re: South Carolina attempts to repeal Rule 34

2016-12-20 Thread Dovid Bender 
Let's call it for what it is. It's a new tax. The manufactures/stores etc.
wont want to he held liable and they will simply include the cost when
selling a PC (does anyone other than us buy one of those these days?)


On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 5:26 AM, Tei  wrote:

> Users are crafty.
>
> One user on a network I had to admin use to mail porn has Microsoft
> Word documents to his Gmail account.
>
> So if you want to stop porn, you have to ban file attachments and
> monospace fonts.
>
> Good luck with that.
>
> On 20 December 2016 at 09:25, Jippen  wrote:
> > So, $20 tax on all computers sold in SC in practice
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 19, 2016, 11:41 PM Jay Hennigan  wrote:
> >
> >> Break out the popcorn.
> >>
> >> http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article121673402.html
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> >> Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net
> >> Impulse Internet Service  -  http://www.impulse.net/
> >> Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV
> >>
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Re: South Carolina attempts to repeal Rule 34

2016-12-20 Thread Tei 
Users are crafty.

One user on a network I had to admin use to mail porn has Microsoft
Word documents to his Gmail account.

So if you want to stop porn, you have to ban file attachments and
monospace fonts.

Good luck with that.

On 20 December 2016 at 09:25, Jippen  wrote:
> So, $20 tax on all computers sold in SC in practice
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016, 11:41 PM Jay Hennigan  wrote:
>
>> Break out the popcorn.
>>
>> http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article121673402.html
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net
>> Impulse Internet Service  -  http://www.impulse.net/
>> Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV
>>



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Re: South Carolina attempts to repeal Rule 34

2016-12-20 Thread Jippen 
So, $20 tax on all computers sold in SC in practice

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016, 11:41 PM Jay Hennigan  wrote:

> Break out the popcorn.
>
> http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article121673402.html
>
> --
> --
> Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net
> Impulse Internet Service  -  http://www.impulse.net/
> Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV
>

South Carolina attempts to repeal Rule 34

2016-12-19 Thread Jay Hennigan 

Break out the popcorn.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article121673402.html

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Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net
Impulse Internet Service  -  http://www.impulse.net/
Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV