Re: Strip AS in BGP peer

2009-11-20 Thread Andy Davidson
Sherwin Ang wrote:
 well here it goes.  we'll soon form a new internet exchange and i
 would like to suggest a model in the route-server wherein the
 route-server would strip out it's own AS and give the neighbors/peers
 the AS's of the members.  I have seen this in Any2IX but i have no
 idea on how to implement it as if i am the Any2 route-server.


Hi, Sherwin

Sorry for the late reply.

We (LONAP, London UK) have deployed our route-servers using BIRD and
OpenBGPd on unix servers, rather than traditional big iron hardware for the
following reasons :

 - Availability of the 'stripped asn' feature as you describe.
 - Multiple RIBs per BGP instance, so that route-server participants who
filter (on the route-server) can do so without causing shadowing of prefixes.
 - Don't need the high-capacity forwarding - the route-servers swap
prefixes, not traffic.

As other posters in this thread have described, it's also possible to do
this with the Quagga software, but the current codebase appears to creak
(and then croak !) with scale, when multiple-ribs are enabled.

This email is pretty brief; the exchange community have been discussing
this and publishing talks on the subject since the beginning of the year,
as our understanding of the problems of running the common open-source so I
can point you to some resources that you may find interesting :

Our decisions and introduction to the LONAP service :
http://www.uknof.org.uk/uknof13/Davidson-LONAP_routeservers.pdf

INEX (Dublin, IE) describe the per-peer RIB problem and Quagga problems :
http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-58/content/presentations/Hilliard-Why_use_Quagga_for_Route_Servers.pdf

LINX (London, UK) also describe the per-peer RIB problem and explain their
efforts to solve the Quagga problems :
http://www.uknof.org.uk/uknof13/Hughes-IXP_routeservers.pdf

EuroIX route server activity report from October :
http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-59/presentations/hiliard-euroix-update.pdf
(Situation is more evolved now, but I don't know if more recent slides are
public)


The situation is likely to move quickly by the middle of next year, if
there is interest it sounds like a good operational BOF for N'49.

Andy



Strip AS in BGP peer

2009-10-28 Thread Sherwin Ang
Hello Nanog,

am not sure if i should have placed this on the cisco-nsp or the
juniper-nsp but someone may have a direct answer.

well here it goes.  we'll soon form a new internet exchange and i
would like to suggest a model in the route-server wherein the
route-server would strip out it's own AS and give the neighbors/peers
the AS's of the members.  I have seen this in Any2IX but i have no
idea on how to implement it as if i am the Any2 route-server.

if you could point me to the right direction or reading, i could take
it from there.

-Sherwin



Re: Strip AS in BGP peer

2009-10-28 Thread Adrian Chadd
Take a read of the quagga documentation. There's a BGP neighbor option
for stripping out the local AS when speaking eBGP.



Adrian

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009, Sherwin Ang wrote:
 Hello Nanog,
 
 am not sure if i should have placed this on the cisco-nsp or the
 juniper-nsp but someone may have a direct answer.
 
 well here it goes.  we'll soon form a new internet exchange and i
 would like to suggest a model in the route-server wherein the
 route-server would strip out it's own AS and give the neighbors/peers
 the AS's of the members.  I have seen this in Any2IX but i have no
 idea on how to implement it as if i am the Any2 route-server.
 
 if you could point me to the right direction or reading, i could take
 it from there.



Re: Strip AS in BGP peer

2009-10-28 Thread Cody Appleby

More specifically: 
-  neighbor *ip or peer-group* attribute-unchanged as-path

Cheers,
Cody 

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:19:54 +0800, Adrian Chadd adr...@creative.net.au
wrote:
 Take a read of the quagga documentation. There's a BGP neighbor option
 for stripping out the local AS when speaking eBGP.
 
 
 
 Adrian
 
 On Wed, Oct 28, 2009, Sherwin Ang wrote:
 Hello Nanog,
 
 am not sure if i should have placed this on the cisco-nsp or the
 juniper-nsp but someone may have a direct answer.
 
 well here it goes.  we'll soon form a new internet exchange and i
 would like to suggest a model in the route-server wherein the
 route-server would strip out it's own AS and give the neighbors/peers
 the AS's of the members.  I have seen this in Any2IX but i have no
 idea on how to implement it as if i am the Any2 route-server.
 
 if you could point me to the right direction or reading, i could take
 it from there.