Vancouver, BC providers

2011-10-25 Thread Ravi Pina
Hi,

I was looking for some metro-e options in Vancouver, BC CA
specifically in the Downtown/Gastown area.  I'm finding the area
isn't the most built up so options are very thin.

We already have service through Level3, but would like a
secondary one.  It doesn't have to be tier1 or even terrestrial
service so much as reliable and vouched for.

Any tips would be appreciated.

Thanks,

-r




Re: Vancouver, BC providers

2011-10-25 Thread jim deleskie
I'd expect you could find, Rogers, Telus, Shaw and Bell all there.


-jim

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Ravi Pina r...@cow.org wrote:
 Hi,

 I was looking for some metro-e options in Vancouver, BC CA
 specifically in the Downtown/Gastown area.  I'm finding the area
 isn't the most built up so options are very thin.

 We already have service through Level3, but would like a
 secondary one.  It doesn't have to be tier1 or even terrestrial
 service so much as reliable and vouched for.

 Any tips would be appreciated.

 Thanks,

 -r






Re: Vancouver, BC providers

2011-10-25 Thread Ravi Pina
I suppose I could have been a little more clear on what I've
already found.  Sorry.

The last mile for the Level3 is coming on Telus (after a punch to
the face and gut for build out fee) so I'd like someone else.
Shaw does not offer service without what I suspect is another
punch to the face for a build out.  Bell didn't return any of my
inquiries via email of voice message.

-r

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 03:21:13PM -0300, jim deleskie wrote:
 I'd expect you could find, Rogers, Telus, Shaw and Bell all there.
 
 
 -jim
 
 On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Ravi Pina r...@cow.org wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I was looking for some metro-e options in Vancouver, BC CA
  specifically in the Downtown/Gastown area.  I'm finding the area
  isn't the most built up so options are very thin.
 
  We already have service through Level3, but would like a
  secondary one.  It doesn't have to be tier1 or even terrestrial
  service so much as reliable and vouched for.
 
  Any tips would be appreciated.
 
  Thanks,
 
  -r
 
 
 



RE: Vancouver, BC providers

2011-10-25 Thread Erik Soosalu
May not suit your needs, but I've used Terago with some success for secondary 
links.


Thanks,
Erik Soosalu

-Original Message-
From: Ravi Pina [mailto:r...@cow.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:28 PM
To: jim deleskie
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Vancouver, BC providers

I suppose I could have been a little more clear on what I've
already found.  Sorry.

The last mile for the Level3 is coming on Telus (after a punch to
the face and gut for build out fee) so I'd like someone else.
Shaw does not offer service without what I suspect is another
punch to the face for a build out.  Bell didn't return any of my
inquiries via email of voice message.

-r

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 03:21:13PM -0300, jim deleskie wrote:
 I'd expect you could find, Rogers, Telus, Shaw and Bell all there.
 
 
 -jim
 
 On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Ravi Pina r...@cow.org wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I was looking for some metro-e options in Vancouver, BC CA
  specifically in the Downtown/Gastown area.  I'm finding the area
  isn't the most built up so options are very thin.
 
  We already have service through Level3, but would like a
  secondary one.  It doesn't have to be tier1 or even terrestrial
  service so much as reliable and vouched for.
 
  Any tips would be appreciated.
 
  Thanks,
 
  -r
 
 
 





Re: Vancouver, BC providers

2011-10-25 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
 The last mile for the Level3 is coming on Telus (after a punch to
 the face and gut for build out fee) so I'd like someone else.
 Shaw does not offer service without what I suspect is another
 punch to the face for a build out.  Bell didn't return any of my
 inquiries via email of voice message.

You will pay for buildout no matter who you talk to.

Somebody already mentioned Terago.  I can't vouch for how good
their service or coverage is downtown, but they're definately
worth a call if you can't afford the cost of the fibre pull.

--lyndon




Re: Vancouver, BC providers

2011-10-25 Thread Ryan Wilkins
Sounds like a possible candidate for some of the last mile wireless equipment 
available.  The problem is the wireless equipment may cost more than the punch 
to the face and gut.  How much bandwidth are you talking?  You're looking at 
somewhere around $16k for a 300 Mbps Motorola PTP 800 solution at 18 or 23 GHz. 
 BridgeWave has some 1 Gbps stuff out there for about $30k at 80 GHz, but falls 
out during very heavy rains at 2 miles link distance.  BridgeWave just recently 
announced some 1 Gbps radio links at 18 and 23 but that's all I know about them.

Ryan

On Oct 25, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Ravi Pina r...@cow.org wrote:

 I suppose I could have been a little more clear on what I've
 already found.  Sorry.
 
 The last mile for the Level3 is coming on Telus (after a punch to
 the face and gut for build out fee) so I'd like someone else.
 Shaw does not offer service without what I suspect is another
 punch to the face for a build out.  Bell didn't return any of my
 inquiries via email of voice message.
 
 -r
 
 On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 03:21:13PM -0300, jim deleskie wrote:
 I'd expect you could find, Rogers, Telus, Shaw and Bell all there.
 
 
 -jim
 
 On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Ravi Pina r...@cow.org wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I was looking for some metro-e options in Vancouver, BC CA
 specifically in the Downtown/Gastown area.  I'm finding the area
 isn't the most built up so options are very thin.
 
 We already have service through Level3, but would like a
 secondary one.  It doesn't have to be tier1 or even terrestrial
 service so much as reliable and vouched for.
 
 Any tips would be appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 -r