Re: [Nanog-futures] Welcome to the Marketing mailing list
Normally, I wouldn't top post, but this one has me stumped. It's *damned* early for me, and I don't yet have the human qualities I might, later in the morning, but I'm pretty sure I didn't sign up for this, and would be absolutely *fascinated* to hear what it was all about (including the possibility that the server is compromised, or the folks *managing* the server have been compromised). I might also point out that, if this is legitimate, it's generally seen as polite to *ASK* before dragging someone out on the dance floor. On 11/17/2011 7:17 AM, marketing-requ...@nanog.org wrote: Welcome to the market...@nanog.org mailing list! To post to this list, send your message to: market...@nanog.org General information about the mailing list is at: https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/options/marketing/shrdlu%40deaddrop.org You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: marketing-requ...@nanog.org with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe without confirmation. It is: [removed] Normally, Mailman will remind you of your nanog.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. -- You've confused equality of opportunity for equality of outcomes, and have seriously confused justice with equality. (Woodchuck) ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Fwd: Welcome to the Marketing mailing list
Um, Can someone explain this one to me? 1. Why was such a list created? 2. Why was I automatically subscribed to it? 3. Why was this done without notice to the community? Thanks, Owen Begin forwarded message: From: marketing-requ...@nanog.org Date: November 17, 2011 7:17:00 AM PST To: o...@delong.com Subject: Welcome to the Marketing mailing list Welcome to the market...@nanog.org mailing list! To post to this list, send your message to: market...@nanog.org General information about the mailing list is at: https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/options/marketing/owen%40delong.com
Re: Fwd: Welcome to the Marketing mailing list
On 11/17/2011 9:35 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: Um, Can someone explain this one to me? 1. Why was such a list created? 2. Why was I automatically subscribed to it? 3. Why was this done without notice to the community? Before this erupts in yet another thread, this was already asked (and answered) on Futures. Betty had an oops moment this morning, and has since repaired it. Followups to Futures. -- You've confused equality of opportunity for equality of outcomes, and have seriously confused justice with equality. (Woodchuck)
Re: Welcome to the Marketing mailing list
So Sorry Owen, as explained earlier, my mistake in list management! All resolved and those members added to the wrong list have been removed. Again sorry for the email noise. Sincerely, Betty On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: Um, Can someone explain this one to me? 1. Why was such a list created? 2. Why was I automatically subscribed to it? 3. Why was this done without notice to the community? Thanks, Owen Begin forwarded message: From: marketing-requ...@nanog.org Date: November 17, 2011 7:17:00 AM PST To: o...@delong.com Subject: Welcome to the Marketing mailing list Welcome to the market...@nanog.org mailing list! To post to this list, send your message to: market...@nanog.org General information about the mailing list is at: https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/options/marketing/owen%40delong.com -- Betty Burke NewNOG/NANOG Executive Director Office (810) 214-1218 Direct (510) 492-4030
Re: Fwd: Welcome to the Marketing mailing list
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 09:35 -0800, Owen DeLong wrote: Can someone explain this one to me? 1. Why was such a list created? 2. Why was I automatically subscribed to it? 3. Why was this done without notice to the community? Thanks, This has a lot of us wondering the same as Owen. This is also not typical of how NANOG does things. Hopefully as the day progresses we will get some insight. Richard Golodner
Re: Welcome to the Marketing mailing list
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:59:38 EST, Betty Burke be...@nanog.org said: So Sorry Owen, as explained earlier, my mistake in list management! All resolved and those members added to the wrong list have been removed. It's OK.. Everybody's entitled to at least one low-caffeine low-impact faux pax a year. ;) pgpZOGivvUcaC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Fwd: Welcome to the Marketing mailing list
Everyone: This was truly just a honest mistake on my part. You are all right, should not have happened and I apologize. market...@nanog.org is a list used in connection with Sponsorship inquiries/activity. refer to http://www.nanog.org/sponsors/ Membership of market...@nanog.or is the Development Committee and NANOG Staff. As I indicated, I was planning to update the members@nanog,org list, and just happened to be in the wrong interface. All best. Betty On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Richard Golodner rgolod...@infratection.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 09:35 -0800, Owen DeLong wrote: Can someone explain this one to me? 1. Why was such a list created? 2. Why was I automatically subscribed to it? 3. Why was this done without notice to the community? Thanks, This has a lot of us wondering the same as Owen. This is also not typical of how NANOG does things. Hopefully as the day progresses we will get some insight. Richard Golodner -- Betty Burke NewNOG/NANOG Executive Director Office (810) 214-1218 Direct (510) 492-4030
Re: Fwd: Welcome to the Marketing mailing list
To echo what Betty said and address an unspoken concern: market...@nanog.org is the mailing list (and external interface?) for the folks who make sure that there are good cookies and other break goodies, beer-n-gear sponsors, meeting hosts, etc. It is most assuredly not a spamming list, which I suppose is probably what went through folks' minds when they got that email. I know that's what I would be wondering if I randomly got that kind of mail with no background info. If you've ever been unfortunate enough to manage Mailman, you're probably as astonished as I am that this sort of pilot error doesn't happen more often. :-) Now that that's out of the way, if you think you might have something to contribute to the community (marketing or otherwise) they're always looking for volunteers... so maybe you *want* to be on that mailing list - the community will be grateful. -R (former Board, fomrer MLC) Betty Burke be...@nanog.org be...@newnog.org writes: Everyone: This was truly just a honest mistake on my part. You are all right, should not have happened and I apologize. market...@nanog.org is a list used in connection with Sponsorship inquiries/activity. refer to http://www.nanog.org/sponsors/ Membership of market...@nanog.or is the Development Committee and NANOG Staff. As I indicated, I was planning to update the members@nanog,org list, and just happened to be in the wrong interface. All best. Betty On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Richard Golodner rgolod...@infratection.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 09:35 -0800, Owen DeLong wrote: Can someone explain this one to me? 1. Why was such a list created? 2. Why was I automatically subscribed to it? 3. Why was this done without notice to the community? Thanks, This has a lot of us wondering the same as Owen. This is also not typical of how NANOG does things. Hopefully as the day progresses we will get some insight. Richard Golodner -- Betty Burke NewNOG/NANOG Executive Director Office (810) 214-1218 Direct (510) 492-4030
Re: Welcome to the Marketing mailing list
- Original Message - From: Richard Golodner rgolod...@infratection.com 1. Why was such a list created? 2. Why was I automatically subscribed to it? 3. Why was this done without notice to the community? This has a lot of us wondering the same as Owen. This is also not typical of how NANOG does things. Hopefully as the day progresses we will get some insight. My, but there are a lot of people, in my best friend's favorite phrase, spring loaded to the pissed-off position. I didn't think NANOGers were quite so prone to recreational indignation... Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
Re: Welcome to the Marketing mailing list
On Nov 17, 2011, at 3:47 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: Richard Golodner rgolod...@infratection.com 1. Why was such a list created? 2. Why was I automatically subscribed to it? 3. Why was this done without notice to the community? This has a lot of us wondering the same as Owen. This is also not typical of how NANOG does things. Hopefully as the day progresses we will get some insight. My, but there are a lot of people, in my best friend's favorite phrase, spring loaded to the pissed-off position. I didn't think NANOGers were quite so prone to recreational indignation... Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Someone once wrote,approximately, Assume the best possible intentions. Thus, bafflement .ne. spring loaded to the pissed-off position. Regards. James R. Cutler james.cut...@consultant.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Welcome to the Marketing mailing list
On 11/17/2011 3:47 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: My, but there are a lot of people, in my best friend's favorite phrase, spring loaded to the pissed-off position. I didn't think NANOGers were quite so prone to recreational indignation... Cheers, -- jra If only there was some sort of movement where they could show up and, by their presence let us know of their impotent rage. Perhaps if they all sat in a park near the hosting facility that holds NANOG.org, occupying it in some way, things might get better here. Andrew
Re: Welcome to the Marketing mailing list
On 11/17/2011 10:47 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: My, but there are a lot of people, in my best friend's favorite phrase, spring loaded to the pissed-off position. I didn't think NANOGers were quite so prone to recreational indignation... Cheers, -- jra NANOG where no day is complete without a bit of righteous indignation. Paul
Re: Fwd: Welcome to the Marketing mailing list
Betty Burke be...@nanog.org wrote: Everyone: This was truly just a honest mistake on my part. You are all right, should not have happened and I apologize. No worries, Betty. The only ones amongst us who don't make mistakes are the ones who don't do anything. --Michael
