Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-18 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Shumon Huque shu...@isc.upenn.edu wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 08:17:40PM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote:
 Another very sad thing about it:

 delong-dhcp202:owen (9) ~ % host www.worldipv6launch.org                   
 2012/01/16 21:24:21
 www.worldipv6launch.org is an alias for 
 www.worldipv6launch.org.edgesuite.net.
 www.worldipv6launch.org.edgesuite.net is an alias for a1448.b.akamai.net.
 a1448.b.akamai.net has address 72.246.53.104
 a1448.b.akamai.net has address 72.246.53.8


 I don't seem to be able to get to the site on IPv6.

 Owen

 I heard that it initially had  records. After the site
 couldn't keep up with the initial load, it was migrated to
 Akamai's CDN (the DNS records you see now are those), and
 Akamai doesn't yet offer IPv6 in production, so no IPv6.

there are places in this world with working v6 at scale the folk
involved COULD use them.
(I thought, actually, that akamai's v6 offering was actually
production, just not wide-spread?)

 Akamai does have a trial IPv6 program though - we host IPv6
 capable Akamai nodes on our campus for example, and a non
 production version of our university website is using it -
 so ISOC could try seeing if they could be hosted on that
 infrastructure.

My question is when is FiOS going to get v6 natively? could we get the
engineers there to actually do something as opposed to trials of
non-production systems that'll never actually get deployed? :)

-chris


 --
 Shumon Huque
 University of Pennsylvania.




Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-18 Thread Shumon Huque
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:46:24AM -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Shumon Huque shu...@isc.upenn.edu wrote:
 
  I heard that it initially had  records. After the site
  couldn't keep up with the initial load, it was migrated to
  Akamai's CDN (the DNS records you see now are those), and
  Akamai doesn't yet offer IPv6 in production, so no IPv6.
 
 there are places in this world with working v6 at scale the folk
 involved COULD use them.
 (I thought, actually, that akamai's v6 offering was actually
 production, just not wide-spread?)

Not sure - our Akamai support people have so far not told us
that it's production ready (we ask periodically; maybe we aren't
talking to the right people). And thus far, they haven't 
permitted us to point the www.upenn.edu  record to Akamai.
A non production name (ipv6.upenn.edu) mirroring the same
content does have a  to Akamai though.

But, checking www.worldipv6launch.org just now shows that it
have IPv6 records now:

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.worldipv6launch.org.   IN  

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.worldipv6launch.org. 297IN  CNAME   
www.worldipv6launch.org.edgesuite.net.
www.worldipv6launch.org.edgesuite.net. 6167 IN CNAME a1448.dscb.akamai.net.
a1448.dscb.akamai.net.  20  IN  2001:590:1:400::451f:4859
a1448.dscb.akamai.net.  20  IN  2001:590:1:400::451f:4868

-- 
Shumon Huque
University of Pennsylvania.



Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-18 Thread Owen DeLong

On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Shumon Huque shu...@isc.upenn.edu wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 08:17:40PM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote:
 Another very sad thing about it:
 
 delong-dhcp202:owen (9) ~ % host www.worldipv6launch.org   
 2012/01/16 21:24:21
 www.worldipv6launch.org is an alias for 
 www.worldipv6launch.org.edgesuite.net.
 www.worldipv6launch.org.edgesuite.net is an alias for a1448.b.akamai.net.
 a1448.b.akamai.net has address 72.246.53.104
 a1448.b.akamai.net has address 72.246.53.8
 
 
 I don't seem to be able to get to the site on IPv6.
 
 Owen
 
 I heard that it initially had  records. After the site
 couldn't keep up with the initial load, it was migrated to
 Akamai's CDN (the DNS records you see now are those), and
 Akamai doesn't yet offer IPv6 in production, so no IPv6.
 
 there are places in this world with working v6 at scale the folk
 involved COULD use them.
 (I thought, actually, that akamai's v6 offering was actually
 production, just not wide-spread?)
 

In fairness, it is up on IPv6 today. I don't know exactly when that
happened, but, kudos to ISOC and Akamai for getting it done
fairly quickly.

 Akamai does have a trial IPv6 program though - we host IPv6
 capable Akamai nodes on our campus for example, and a non
 production version of our university website is using it -
 so ISOC could try seeing if they could be hosted on that
 infrastructure.
 
 My question is when is FiOS going to get v6 natively? could we get the
 engineers there to actually do something as opposed to trials of
 non-production systems that'll never actually get deployed? :)
 

My understanding is that some areas have native IPv6 on FIOS.

Owen




Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-18 Thread Anurag Bhatia
Btw did someone noticed DNS setup of project site is really crazy!

anurag@laptop:~$ ping worldipv6launch.org
ping: unknown host worldipv6launch.org
anurag@laptop:~$ dig worldipv6launch.org ns +short
ns5.he.net.
ns4.he.net.
ns2.he.net.
ns3.he.net.
anurag@laptop:~$ dig worldipv6launch.org soa +short
ns1.he.net. hostmaster.he.net. 2012011801 10800 1800 604800 86400
anurag@laptop:~$ dig worldipv6launch.org a +short
anurag@laptop:~$ dig worldipv6launch.org  +short
anurag@laptop:~$ dig www.worldipv6launch.org +short
www.worldipv6launch.org.edgesuite.net.
a1448.dscb.akamai.net.
58.27.22.162
58.27.22.163



   1. No A or  record on main worldipv6launch.org
   2. www.worldipv6launch.org has cname to Akamai





-- 

Anurag Bhatia

anuragbhatia.com

or simply - http://[2001:470:26:78f::5] if you are on IPv6 connected
network!

Twitter: @anurag_bhatia https://twitter.com/#!/anurag_bhatia


Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-18 Thread Fred Baker

On Jan 18, 2012, at 9:03 AM, Shumon Huque wrote:

 But, checking www.worldipv6launch.org just now shows that it
 have IPv6 records now:

I just successfully accessed it using IPv6. The service is real, not just the 
DNS record. The address I accessed it at was 2600:809:600::3f50:411.


Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-18 Thread Anurag Bhatia
Hi Fred

You can access on www.worldipv6launch.org but not
http://worldipv6launch.org (without
www)

It's available on IPv6 on www since Akami node has  and seems fine.

anurag@laptop:~$ dig www.worldipv6launch.org  +short
www.worldipv6launch.org.edgesuite.net.
a1448.dscb.akamai.net.
2600:140e:1::3cfe:83ca
2600:140e:1::3cfe:83d1



Someone missed a redirection record for worldipv6launch.org to
www.worldipv6launch.org

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Fred Baker f...@cisco.com wrote:


 On Jan 18, 2012, at 9:03 AM, Shumon Huque wrote:

  But, checking www.worldipv6launch.org just now shows that it
  have IPv6 records now:

 I just successfully accessed it using IPv6. The service is real, not just
 the DNS record. The address I accessed it at was 2600:809:600::3f50:411.




-- 

Anurag Bhatia

anuragbhatia.com

or simply - http://[2001:470:26:78f::5] if you are on IPv6 connected
network!

Twitter: @anurag_bhatia https://twitter.com/#!/anurag_bhatia


Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-18 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:


 My question is when is FiOS going to get v6 natively? could we get the
 engineers there to actually do something as opposed to trials of
 non-production systems that'll never actually get deployed? :)


 My understanding is that some areas have native IPv6 on FIOS.

really? I terminate on the same CO/l3 device the testing was done (you
know, the one that was press-released ~1.5 years ago?) ... no v6 for
me... and as near as I can tell each sales/support person I talk to
says: ipvwhat?

I would bet that the VERIZON fios deployments are non-v6 everywhere...
which is just sad, for the internet and for verizon.

-chris



Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-18 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Anurag Bhatia m...@anuragbhatia.com wrote:
 Hi Fred

 You can access on www.worldipv6launch.org but not
 http://worldipv6launch.org (without
 www)


not everyone puts their web content on their domain? nothing to see
here, please drive through...



Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-18 Thread Justin M. Streiner

On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Christopher Morrow wrote:


My question is when is FiOS going to get v6 natively? could we get the
engineers there to actually do something as opposed to trials of
non-production systems that'll never actually get deployed? :)


I wonder when Comcast and Verizon will get into an IPv6 advertising war.
v6... smhee-6!  Ditch that cable modem and switch to Fios!

jms



Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-18 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/18/12 15:56 , Justin M. Streiner wrote:
 On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Christopher Morrow wrote:
 
 My question is when is FiOS going to get v6 natively? could we get the
 engineers there to actually do something as opposed to trials of
 non-production systems that'll never actually get deployed? :)
 
 I wonder when Comcast and Verizon will get into an IPv6 advertising war.
 v6... smhee-6!  Ditch that cable modem and switch to Fios!

LTE has V6 natively and it gets used today...

joel

 jms
 




Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-18 Thread Justin M. Streiner

On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Joel jaeggli wrote:


On 1/18/12 15:56 , Justin M. Streiner wrote:

On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Christopher Morrow wrote:

I wonder when Comcast and Verizon will get into an IPv6 advertising war.
v6... smhee-6!  Ditch that cable modem and switch to Fios!


LTE has V6 natively and it gets used today...


True, but VZW and VZO are two different animals.

jms



Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-18 Thread Antonio Querubin

On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Anurag Bhatia wrote:


  1. No A or  record on main worldipv6launch.org


Odd and annoying.  So 20th century... :)

Antonio Querubin
e-mail:  t...@lavanauts.org
xmpp:  antonioqueru...@gmail.com



Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-18 Thread Joel Jaeggli
By the same token, The mobile broadband network is not some also-ran adjunct to 
the residential broadband  service.

On Jan 18, 2012, at 16:45, Justin M. Streiner strei...@cluebyfour.org wrote:

 On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Joel jaeggli wrote:
 
 On 1/18/12 15:56 , Justin M. Streiner wrote:
 On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Christopher Morrow wrote:
 
 I wonder when Comcast and Verizon will get into an IPv6 advertising war.
 v6... smhee-6!  Ditch that cable modem and switch to Fios!
 
 LTE has V6 natively and it gets used today...
 
 True, but VZW and VZO are two different animals.
 
 jms
 



World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-17 Thread Derek Ivey

Just saw this new site: http://www.worldipv6launch.org/

Many large companies and ISPs are planning to finally go live with IPv6 
by June 6, 2012.


I don't see Verizon (my ISP) on the list though :(. I'm glad to see 
companies moving forward with IPv6!


Derek



Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-17 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 1/17/12 5:02 PM, Derek Ivey wrote:
 Just saw this new site: http://www.worldipv6launch.org/
 
 Many large companies and ISPs are planning to finally go live with IPv6
 by June 6, 2012.
 
 I don't see Verizon (my ISP) on the list though :(. I'm glad to see
 companies moving forward with IPv6!
 


I kind of feel left out with all the fanfare now, having launched IPv6
many years ago.

~Seth




Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-17 Thread Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold
On Jan 17, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
 I kind of feel left out with all the fanfare now, having launched IPv6
 many years ago.

You can always do the Grand Re-Opening thing.. :P

 ~Seth

---
Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold
xenoph...@godshell.com
---
Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology.
- Niven's Inverse of Clarke's Third Law





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Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-17 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:24:18 EST, Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold said:
 On Jan 17, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
  I kind of feel left out with all the fanfare now, having launched IPv6
  many years ago.

 You can always do the Grand Re-Opening thing.. :P

Can we have a What took you guys so long? banner? :)



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Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-17 Thread Owen DeLong
Another very sad thing about it:

delong-dhcp202:owen (9) ~ % host www.worldipv6launch.org   
2012/01/16 21:24:21
www.worldipv6launch.org is an alias for www.worldipv6launch.org.edgesuite.net.
www.worldipv6launch.org.edgesuite.net is an alias for a1448.b.akamai.net.
a1448.b.akamai.net has address 72.246.53.104
a1448.b.akamai.net has address 72.246.53.8


I don't seem to be able to get to the site on IPv6.

Owen

On Jan 17, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Derek Ivey wrote:

 Just saw this new site: http://www.worldipv6launch.org/
 
 Many large companies and ISPs are planning to finally go live with IPv6 by 
 June 6, 2012.
 
 I don't see Verizon (my ISP) on the list though :(. I'm glad to see companies 
 moving forward with IPv6!
 
 Derek




Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-17 Thread Dave Pooser
On 1/17/12 10:17 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:

I don't seem to be able to get to the site on IPv6.

Well not before June 6, duh! You don't open Christmas presents in August
either!  :^)
-- 
Dave Pooser
Manager of Information Services
Alford Media  http://www.alfordmedia.com







Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-17 Thread Shumon Huque
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 08:17:40PM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote:
 Another very sad thing about it:
 
 delong-dhcp202:owen (9) ~ % host www.worldipv6launch.org   
 2012/01/16 21:24:21
 www.worldipv6launch.org is an alias for www.worldipv6launch.org.edgesuite.net.
 www.worldipv6launch.org.edgesuite.net is an alias for a1448.b.akamai.net.
 a1448.b.akamai.net has address 72.246.53.104
 a1448.b.akamai.net has address 72.246.53.8
 
 
 I don't seem to be able to get to the site on IPv6.
 
 Owen

I heard that it initially had  records. After the site
couldn't keep up with the initial load, it was migrated to
Akamai's CDN (the DNS records you see now are those), and
Akamai doesn't yet offer IPv6 in production, so no IPv6.

Akamai does have a trial IPv6 program though - we host IPv6 
capable Akamai nodes on our campus for example, and a non 
production version of our university website is using it - 
so ISOC could try seeing if they could be hosted on that 
infrastructure.

-- 
Shumon Huque
University of Pennsylvania.



Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-17 Thread Thomas Cannon

Under new mismanagement! :)

-t

 
 You can always do the Grand Re-Opening thing.. :P
 
 ~Seth
 
 ---
 Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold
 xenoph...@godshell.com
 ---
 Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology.
 - Niven's Inverse of Clarke's Third Law
 
 
 




Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-17 Thread Thomas Cannon

Under new mismanagement! :)

-t

 
 You can always do the Grand Re-Opening thing.. :P
 
 ~Seth
 
 ---
 Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold
 xenoph...@godshell.com
 ---
 Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology.
 - Niven's Inverse of Clarke's Third Law