Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Christopher Morrow
https://github.com/morrowc/yt_troubleshooting

might even be useful... I have not run it in a bit so it might die horribly :(
but it might also tell you something useful :)

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Phil Rosenthal p...@isprime.com wrote:

 On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 geolocation is hard :(

 If you would like to see how Google has your geolocation set, check:
 curl http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping

 You might want to force it both IPv4 and IPv6 to see if there is any 
 difference.

 Best Regards,
 -Phil


Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Marco Davids mdav...@forfun.net wrote:

 Geolocation imperfections perhaps?

geolocation is hard :(


Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Stefan Neufeind
Am 25.06.2015 um 15:32 schrieb Christopher Morrow:
 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Marco Davids mdav...@forfun.net wrote:

 Geolocation imperfections perhaps?
 
 geolocation is hard :(

geolocation is a broken concept anyway :-(

Similar to like being allowed by law to only offer some downloads of
series/movies during the night (starting 10pm afaik) for
youth-protection (here in Germany) ... come on ...


Kind regards,
  sn


Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Seth Mos
Marco Davids schreef op 25-6-2015 om 14:33:
 Hi,
 
 Would anyone from Google care to explain to me off-list why certain
 Youtube-content is blocked in the Netherlands while using IPv6 when it
 is working fine via IPv4?
 
 Geolocation imperfections perhaps?
 
 The IPv6-address is within 2a02:a47f:e000::/36
 (actually, it is: 2a02:a444:443b:0::::)

To add to Marco,

The entire 2a02:a400::/25 prefix is used by KPN Netherlands for consumer
and small business DSL internet.

http://bgp.he.net/ip/2A02:A400:C17F:0::

Kind regards,

Seth


Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Marco Davids
Hi,

Would anyone from Google care to explain to me off-list why certain
Youtube-content is blocked in the Netherlands while using IPv6 when it
is working fine via IPv4?

Geolocation imperfections perhaps?

The IPv6-address is within 2a02:a47f:e000::/36
(actually, it is: 2a02:a444:443b:0::::)

Thank you.


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Marco



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Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Phil Rosenthal

 On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 geolocation is hard :(

If you would like to see how Google has your geolocation set, check:
curl http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping

You might want to force it both IPv4 and IPv6 to see if there is any difference.

Best Regards,
-Phil

Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Seth Mos

 Op 25 jun. 2015, om 16:44 heeft Max Tulyev max...@netassist.ua het volgende 
 geschreven:
 
 Hi,
 
 +1.
 
 Our 2a01:d0::/32 is floating by Google's geo all around the world, it
 was Iran, now it is Russia... and I can't do anything with it, and have
 no human contact in Google for complaint.

That sounds like a software problem where it does not match anything in the 
database and then proceeds to return the last known value of the variable. :/

That’s even worse then saying “We don’t know”.

Regards,

Seth
 
 On 25.06.15 15:33, Marco Davids wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Would anyone from Google care to explain to me off-list why certain
 Youtube-content is blocked in the Netherlands while using IPv6 when it
 is working fine via IPv4?
 
 Geolocation imperfections perhaps?
 
 The IPv6-address is within 2a02:a47f:e000::/36
 (actually, it is: 2a02:a444:443b:0::::)
 
 Thank you.
 
 
 



Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Max Tulyev
Hi,

+1.

Our 2a01:d0::/32 is floating by Google's geo all around the world, it
was Iran, now it is Russia... and I can't do anything with it, and have
no human contact in Google for complaint.

On 25.06.15 15:33, Marco Davids wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Would anyone from Google care to explain to me off-list why certain
 Youtube-content is blocked in the Netherlands while using IPv6 when it
 is working fine via IPv4?
 
 Geolocation imperfections perhaps?
 
 The IPv6-address is within 2a02:a47f:e000::/36
 (actually, it is: 2a02:a444:443b:0::::)
 
 Thank you.
 
 



Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Jared Mauch

 On Jun 25, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Phil Rosenthal p...@isprime.com wrote:
 
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 geolocation is hard :(
 
 If you would like to see how Google has your geolocation set, check:
 curl http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping
 
 You might want to force it both IPv4 and IPv6 to see if there is any 
 difference.


And run it a few times, because it may think your IP in asia is in Amsterdam, 
etc..

[jared@eng0 ~]$ curl -4 http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping
203.105.73.114 = ams09x03 : superx_isp_number: 8 (203.105.64.0/20) [s]
[jared@eng0 ~]$ curl -4 http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping
203.105.73.114 = sjc07x04 : superx_isp_number: 1 (203.105.64.0/20) [u]

- Jared

Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Jared Mauch

 On Jun 25, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Scott Whyte swh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 On 6/25/15 07:49, Jared Mauch wrote:
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Phil Rosenthal p...@isprime.com wrote:
 
 
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 geolocation is hard :(
 
 If you would like to see how Google has your geolocation set, check:
 curl http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping
 
 You might want to force it both IPv4 and IPv6 to see if there is any 
 difference.
 
 
 And run it a few times, because it may think your IP in asia is in 
 Amsterdam, etc..
 
 [jared@eng0 ~]$ curl -4 http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping
 203.105.73.114 = ams09x03 : superx_isp_number: 8 (203.105.64.0/20) [s]
 [jared@eng0 ~]$ curl -4 http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping
 203.105.73.114 = sjc07x04 : superx_isp_number: 1 (203.105.64.0/20) [u]
 
 Maybe its actually telling you where youtube is serving videos from for that 
 IP address, in realtime, based on a large number of variables only one of 
 which is where on the Earth that IP might be located.

That might be possible, but sending traffic to Europe vs another site smells
like some other issue.

It’s also interesting to look at the internalized CIDR it’s matching against.

Take puck as an example.

puck:~$ curl http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping -4
204.42.254.5 = ord31x04 : superx_isp_number: 1 (204.42.224.0/19) [u]
puck:~$ curl http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping -6
2001:418:3f4::5 = sjc07s17 (2001:418:200::/39) [u]

Many interesting results as a consequence.

- jared

Re: Youtube / IPv6 / Netherlands

2015-06-25 Thread Scott Whyte



On 6/25/15 07:49, Jared Mauch wrote:



On Jun 25, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Phil Rosenthal p...@isprime.com wrote:



On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:

geolocation is hard :(


If you would like to see how Google has your geolocation set, check:
curl http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping

You might want to force it both IPv4 and IPv6 to see if there is any difference.



And run it a few times, because it may think your IP in asia is in Amsterdam, 
etc..

[jared@eng0 ~]$ curl -4 http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping
203.105.73.114 = ams09x03 : superx_isp_number: 8 (203.105.64.0/20) [s]
[jared@eng0 ~]$ curl -4 http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping
203.105.73.114 = sjc07x04 : superx_isp_number: 1 (203.105.64.0/20) [u]


Maybe its actually telling you where youtube is serving videos from for 
that IP address, in realtime, based on a large number of variables only 
one of which is where on the Earth that IP might be located.




- Jared