eBGP Graceful-Restart and GR Helper Mode with external networks.

2014-11-24 Thread Chris Costa
Is there a BCOP (or substantiated opinion) for negotiating eBGP
Graceful-Restart and Graceful-Restart Helper-Mode with external networks?
Implementation looks varied across a few larger transit providers, and in
some cases implemented inconsistently within the same provider.  Seeing
most IX peers with GR disabled, although I don't see they've disabled GR
Helper Mode.  Apparently, Junos (12.3, at least) doesn't offer disabling GR
Helper Mode for BGP.


Thanks.


Re: eBGP Graceful-Restart and GR Helper Mode with external networks.

2014-11-24 Thread Mark Tinka
On Monday, November 24, 2014 10:08:11 PM Chris Costa wrote:

 Is there a BCOP (or substantiated opinion) for
 negotiating eBGP Graceful-Restart and Graceful-Restart
 Helper-Mode with external networks? Implementation looks
 varied across a few larger transit providers, and in
 some cases implemented inconsistently within the same
 provider.  Seeing most IX peers with GR disabled,
 although I don't see they've disabled GR Helper Mode. 
 Apparently, Junos (12.3, at least) doesn't offer
 disabling GR Helper Mode for BGP.

We generally disable GR on eBGP sessions because different 
peers (be they customers, upstreams or peers) have different 
hardware/software that could make this tricky.

Internally, we run NSR on boxes with dual control planes. 
This is recent, as several of your garden-variety (and 
exotic) service provider network protocols and services are 
now reasonably supported that it makes sense to migrate from 
GR to NSR.

We don't generally run GR on boxes with single control 
planes, as there could be operational impact when BFD is 
involved under some circumstances. That said, GR Helper mode 
tends to always be available even when GR is not enabled.

Mark.


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