google troubles?

2013-07-10 Thread Blair Trosper
Seeing lots of reports of people unable to get to many Google services.
 Seems to be affecting Comcast users disproportionately.  It's fine for me,
but a lot of my staff are basically out of luck...but according to the
Google Apps Status page, everything is fine.

It's anecdotal, but it would seem like there's an issue based on these
reports.

Oh, and this:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/tech/web/google-down/index.html

Anyone know what's up?  Fiber cut?  DC outages?

-- blair


RE: google troubles?

2013-07-10 Thread BEN BROWN
I did have connectivity issues for mobile devices this AM between 
8:00am-10:00am EST. I am in NE Ohio.

Seems to be resolved now.

-Original Message-
From: Blair Trosper [mailto:blair.tros...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:28 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: google troubles?

Seeing lots of reports of people unable to get to many Google services.
 Seems to be affecting Comcast users disproportionately.  It's fine for me, but 
a lot of my staff are basically out of luck...but according to the Google Apps 
Status page, everything is fine.

It's anecdotal, but it would seem like there's an issue based on these reports.

Oh, and this:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/tech/web/google-down/index.html

Anyone know what's up?  Fiber cut?  DC outages?

-- blair


Re: google troubles?

2013-07-10 Thread John York
We saw the same thing, but seems to be cleared up now. All our providers
that routed to Google addresses in ATL had the issue. We have one provider
that lands on Google addresses in DFW, and it was working.

...And now I see that it isn't completely resolved. Some Google apps are
still inaccessible via the Atlanta routes.




On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Blair Trosper blair.tros...@gmail.comwrote:

 Seeing lots of reports of people unable to get to many Google services.
  Seems to be affecting Comcast users disproportionately.  It's fine for me,
 but a lot of my staff are basically out of luck...but according to the
 Google Apps Status page, everything is fine.

 It's anecdotal, but it would seem like there's an issue based on these
 reports.

 Oh, and this:
 http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/tech/web/google-down/index.html

 Anyone know what's up?  Fiber cut?  DC outages?

 -- blair




-- 

John York

Information Technology | Network Administrator

Phone: 615-399-7000 x:333

Griffin Technology
2030 Lindell Avenue Nashville, TN  37203 USA

This message and any attachments should be treated as confidential information 
of Griffin Technology, Inc.


Re: google troubles?

2013-07-10 Thread Grant Ridder
Does anyone have traceroutes showing where the issues are?

-Grant

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:45 AM, John York jo...@griffintechnology.comwrote:

 We saw the same thing, but seems to be cleared up now. All our providers
 that routed to Google addresses in ATL had the issue. We have one provider
 that lands on Google addresses in DFW, and it was working.

 ...And now I see that it isn't completely resolved. Some Google apps are
 still inaccessible via the Atlanta routes.




 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Blair Trosper blair.tros...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Seeing lots of reports of people unable to get to many Google services.
   Seems to be affecting Comcast users disproportionately.  It's fine for
 me,
  but a lot of my staff are basically out of luck...but according to the
  Google Apps Status page, everything is fine.
 
  It's anecdotal, but it would seem like there's an issue based on these
  reports.
 
  Oh, and this:
  http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/tech/web/google-down/index.html
 
  Anyone know what's up?  Fiber cut?  DC outages?
 
  -- blair
 



 --

 John York

 Information Technology | Network Administrator

 Phone: 615-399-7000 x:333

 Griffin Technology
 2030 Lindell Avenue Nashville, TN  37203 USA

 This message and any attachments should be treated as confidential
 information of Griffin Technology, Inc.



Re: google troubles?

2013-07-10 Thread N. Max Pierson
Traceroutes worked fine for me during the outage. Seems to have been
something at L4-L7.

--
max

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Grant Ridder shortdudey...@gmail.comwrote:

 Does anyone have traceroutes showing where the issues are?

 -Grant

 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:45 AM, John York jo...@griffintechnology.com
 wrote:

  We saw the same thing, but seems to be cleared up now. All our providers
  that routed to Google addresses in ATL had the issue. We have one
 provider
  that lands on Google addresses in DFW, and it was working.
 
  ...And now I see that it isn't completely resolved. Some Google apps are
  still inaccessible via the Atlanta routes.
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Blair Trosper blair.tros...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Seeing lots of reports of people unable to get to many Google services.
Seems to be affecting Comcast users disproportionately.  It's fine for
  me,
   but a lot of my staff are basically out of luck...but according to the
   Google Apps Status page, everything is fine.
  
   It's anecdotal, but it would seem like there's an issue based on these
   reports.
  
   Oh, and this:
   http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/tech/web/google-down/index.html
  
   Anyone know what's up?  Fiber cut?  DC outages?
  
   -- blair
  
 
 
 
  --
 
  John York
 
  Information Technology | Network Administrator
 
  Phone: 615-399-7000 x:333
 
  Griffin Technology
  2030 Lindell Avenue Nashville, TN  37203 USA
 
  This message and any attachments should be treated as confidential
  information of Griffin Technology, Inc.
 



RE: google troubles?

2013-07-10 Thread Milt Aitken
We (were) peered with Google in Atlanta.
We were unable to bring up web pages for google.com or gmail.com.
Traceroute worked, though.
I shut off the peering  my outbound route switched to Cogent, which
works now.

I'll try peering again tonight.  Maybe they'll have fixed it by then.

-Original Message-
From: N. Max Pierson [mailto:nmaxpier...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:00 AM
To: Grant Ridder
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: google troubles?

Traceroutes worked fine for me during the outage. Seems to have been
something at L4-L7.

--
max

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Grant Ridder
shortdudey...@gmail.comwrote:

 Does anyone have traceroutes showing where the issues are?

 -Grant

 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:45 AM, John York
jo...@griffintechnology.com
 wrote:

  We saw the same thing, but seems to be cleared up now. All our
providers
  that routed to Google addresses in ATL had the issue. We have one
 provider
  that lands on Google addresses in DFW, and it was working.
 
  ...And now I see that it isn't completely resolved. Some Google apps
are
  still inaccessible via the Atlanta routes.
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Blair Trosper
blair.tros...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Seeing lots of reports of people unable to get to many Google
services.
Seems to be affecting Comcast users disproportionately.  It's
fine for
  me,
   but a lot of my staff are basically out of luck...but according to
the
   Google Apps Status page, everything is fine.
  
   It's anecdotal, but it would seem like there's an issue based on
these
   reports.
  
   Oh, and this:
   http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/tech/web/google-down/index.html
  
   Anyone know what's up?  Fiber cut?  DC outages?
  
   -- blair
  
 
 
 
  --
 
  John York
 
  Information Technology | Network Administrator
 
  Phone: 615-399-7000 x:333
 
  Griffin Technology
  2030 Lindell Avenue Nashville, TN  37203 USA
 
  This message and any attachments should be treated as confidential
  information of Griffin Technology, Inc.
 




Re: google troubles?

2013-07-10 Thread Grant Ridder
tcptraceroutes working fine too?

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Milt Aitken m...@net2atlanta.com wrote:

 We (were) peered with Google in Atlanta.
 We were unable to bring up web pages for google.com or gmail.com.
 Traceroute worked, though.
 I shut off the peering  my outbound route switched to Cogent, which
 works now.

 I'll try peering again tonight.  Maybe they'll have fixed it by then.

 -Original Message-
 From: N. Max Pierson [mailto:nmaxpier...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:00 AM
 To: Grant Ridder
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: google troubles?

 Traceroutes worked fine for me during the outage. Seems to have been
 something at L4-L7.

 --
 max

 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Grant Ridder
 shortdudey...@gmail.comwrote:

  Does anyone have traceroutes showing where the issues are?
 
  -Grant
 
  On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:45 AM, John York
 jo...@griffintechnology.com
  wrote:
 
   We saw the same thing, but seems to be cleared up now. All our
 providers
   that routed to Google addresses in ATL had the issue. We have one
  provider
   that lands on Google addresses in DFW, and it was working.
  
   ...And now I see that it isn't completely resolved. Some Google apps
 are
   still inaccessible via the Atlanta routes.
  
  
  
  
   On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Blair Trosper
 blair.tros...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
Seeing lots of reports of people unable to get to many Google
 services.
 Seems to be affecting Comcast users disproportionately.  It's
 fine for
   me,
but a lot of my staff are basically out of luck...but according to
 the
Google Apps Status page, everything is fine.
   
It's anecdotal, but it would seem like there's an issue based on
 these
reports.
   
Oh, and this:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/tech/web/google-down/index.html
   
Anyone know what's up?  Fiber cut?  DC outages?
   
-- blair
   
  
  
  
   --
  
   John York
  
   Information Technology | Network Administrator
  
   Phone: 615-399-7000 x:333
  
   Griffin Technology
   2030 Lindell Avenue Nashville, TN  37203 USA
  
   This message and any attachments should be treated as confidential
   information of Griffin Technology, Inc.
  
 



google troubles?

2013-07-10 Thread Mike Jackson
I can see the Google IP space (64.71.240.0/20) from Verizon/AS701, but not
from Rogers/AS812 in Toronto.  I've done a few other test traceroutes
through Rogers to verify that they didn't filter UDP/ICMP.  At this point
nothing would surprise me from Rogers.

AS701
=

TOR2-CORE-R1#traceroute www.google.com
Translating www.google.com...domain server (8.8.8.8) [OK]

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to www.google.com (74.125.26.99)
VRF info: (vrf in name/id, vrf out name/id)
  1 x.x.x.x [AS701] 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec
  2 0.ge-11-0-0.XT4.TOR2.ALTER.NET (152.63.133.78) [AS 701] 4 msec 0 msec 4
msec
  3 0.so-4-0-3.XT2.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.73) [AS 701] 16 msec 16 msec 16
msec
  4 TenGigE0-7-1-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.21.125) [AS 701] 20 msec
TenGigE0-5-1-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.21.73) [AS 701] 16 msec
TenGigE0-5-4-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.18.206) [AS 701] 20 msec
  5 72.14.238.232 [AS 15169] 16 msec 16 msec 20 msec
  6 72.14.236.208 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 680976 Exp 4] 16 msec 16 msec
72.14.236.206 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 533197 Exp 4] 20 msec
  7 209.85.249.11 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 16668 Exp 4] 24 msec
72.14.239.93 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 14644 Exp 4] 24 msec
209.85.249.11 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 13978 Exp 4] 24 msec
  8 209.85.243.114 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 568789 Exp 4] 32 msec
209.85.241.222 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 632535 Exp 4] 32 msec 32 msec
  9 216.239.48.159 [AS 15169] 36 msec 32 msec
216.239.48.59 [AS 15169] 32 msec
 10 www.google.com (74.125.26.147) [AS 15169] 32 msec 32 msec 32 msec



AS812 (Rogers Looking Glass https://supernoc.rogerstelecom.net/lg/)
===

*Query:* *tr 64.71.249.45*

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 64.71.249.45

  1 64.71.255.62 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
  2 ge-4-3-0.gw02.ym.phub.net.cable.ROGERS.com (66.185.82.237) 4 msec
4 msec 4 msec
  3 69.63.250.189 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
  4 69.63.250.174 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
  5  *  *  *
  6  *  *  *
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Cheers,

  - MJ


-Original Message-
 From: Grant Ridder [mailto:shortdudey...@gmail.com]
 Sent: July-10-13 10:57 AM
 To: John York
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: google troubles?

 Does anyone have traceroutes showing where the issues are?

 -Grant

 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:45 AM, John York
 jo...@griffintechnology.comwrote:

  We saw the same thing, but seems to be cleared up now. All our
  providers that routed to Google addresses in ATL had the issue. We
  have one provider that lands on Google addresses in DFW, and it was
 working.
 
  ...And now I see that it isn't completely resolved. Some Google apps
  are still inaccessible via the Atlanta routes.
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Blair Trosper
  blair.tros...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Seeing lots of reports of people unable to get to many Google
 services.
Seems to be affecting Comcast users disproportionately.  It's fine
   for
  me,
   but a lot of my staff are basically out of luck...but according to
   the Google Apps Status page, everything is fine.
  
   It's anecdotal, but it would seem like there's an issue based on
   these reports.
  
   Oh, and this:
   http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/tech/web/google-down/index.html
  
   Anyone know what's up?  Fiber cut?  DC outages?
  
   -- blair
  
 
 
 
  --
 
  John York
 
  Information Technology | Network Administrator
 
  Phone: 615-399-7000 x:333
 
  Griffin Technology
  2030 Lindell Avenue Nashville, TN  37203 USA
 
  This message and any attachments should be treated as confidential
  information of Griffin Technology, Inc.
 






Re: google troubles?

2013-07-10 Thread Mike Jackson
I just realized that it's not Google IP space (74.125.0.0/16), Rogers is
hijacking the DNS and resolving www.google.com to space within
64.71.240.0/20 which is Rogers IP space! (note the name server set as
8.8.8.8)

davinci#traceroute www.google.com

Translating www.google.com...domain server (8.8.8.8) [OK]

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to www.google.com (66.185.85.29)

  1 x.x.x.x [AS 812] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
  2 so-4-0-2.gw02.ym.phub.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.82.129) [AS 812] 8
msec 8 msec 4 msec
  3 69.63.252.222 [AS 812] 4 msec 0 msec 8 msec
  4 69.63.250.162 [AS 812] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
  5  *  *  *
  6  *  *  *
  7  *  *  *
  8  *  *  *
  9  *  *  *
 10  *  *  *

TOR2-CORE-R1#show ip bgp 66.185.85.29
BGP routing table entry for 66.185.80.0/20, version 13095115
Paths: (1 available, best #1, table default)
  Advertised to update-groups:
 14
  701 6461 812
205.205.23.121 from 205.205.23.121 (137.39.8.42)
  Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best
TOR2-CORE-R1#


Thanks,

  - Mike


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Mike Jackson m...@routed.ca wrote:

 I can see the Google IP space (64.71.240.0/20) from Verizon/AS701, but
 not from Rogers/AS812 in Toronto.  I've done a few other test traceroutes
 through Rogers to verify that they didn't filter UDP/ICMP.  At this point
 nothing would surprise me from Rogers.

 AS701
 =

 TOR2-CORE-R1#traceroute www.google.com
 Translating www.google.com...domain server (8.8.8.8) [OK]

 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Tracing the route to www.google.com (74.125.26.99)
 VRF info: (vrf in name/id, vrf out name/id)
   1 x.x.x.x [AS701] 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec
   2 0.ge-11-0-0.XT4.TOR2.ALTER.NET (152.63.133.78) [AS 701] 4 msec 0 msec
 4 msec
   3 0.so-4-0-3.XT2.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.73) [AS 701] 16 msec 16 msec
 16 msec
   4 TenGigE0-7-1-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.21.125) [AS 701] 20 msec
 TenGigE0-5-1-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.21.73) [AS 701] 16 msec
 TenGigE0-5-4-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.18.206) [AS 701] 20 msec
   5 72.14.238.232 [AS 15169] 16 msec 16 msec 20 msec
   6 72.14.236.208 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 680976 Exp 4] 16 msec 16 msec
 72.14.236.206 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 533197 Exp 4] 20 msec
   7 209.85.249.11 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 16668 Exp 4] 24 msec
 72.14.239.93 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 14644 Exp 4] 24 msec
 209.85.249.11 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 13978 Exp 4] 24 msec
   8 209.85.243.114 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 568789 Exp 4] 32 msec
 209.85.241.222 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 632535 Exp 4] 32 msec 32 msec
   9 216.239.48.159 [AS 15169] 36 msec 32 msec
 216.239.48.59 [AS 15169] 32 msec
  10 www.google.com (74.125.26.147) [AS 15169] 32 msec 32 msec 32 msec



 AS812 (Rogers Looking Glass https://supernoc.rogerstelecom.net/lg/)
 ===

 *Query:* *tr 64.71.249.45*

 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Tracing the route to 64.71.249.45

   1 64.71.255.62 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
   2 ge-4-3-0.gw02.ym.phub.net.cable.ROGERS.com (66.185.82.237) 4 msec 4 msec 
 4 msec
   3 69.63.250.189 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
   4 69.63.250.174 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
   5  *  *  *
   6  *  *  *
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  30  *  *  *


 Cheers,

   - MJ


 -Original Message-
 From: Grant Ridder [mailto:shortdudey...@gmail.com]
 Sent: July-10-13 10:57 AM
 To: John York
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: google troubles?

 Does anyone have traceroutes showing where the issues are?

 -Grant

 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:45 AM, John York
 jo...@griffintechnology.comwrote:

  We saw the same thing, but seems to be cleared up now. All our
  providers that routed to Google addresses in ATL had the issue. We
  have one provider that lands on Google addresses in DFW, and it was
 working.
 
  ...And now I see that it isn't completely resolved. Some Google apps
  are still inaccessible via the Atlanta routes.
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Blair Trosper
  blair.tros...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Seeing lots of reports of people unable to get to many Google
 services.
Seems to be affecting Comcast users disproportionately.  It's fine
   for
  me,
   but a lot of my staff are basically out of luck...but according to
   the Google Apps Status page, everything is fine.
  
   It's anecdotal, but it would seem like there's an issue based on
   these reports.
  
   Oh, and this:
   http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/tech/web/google-down/index.html
  
   Anyone know what's up?  Fiber cut?  DC outages?
  
   -- blair
  
 
 
 
  --
 
  John York
 
  Information Technology | Network Administrator
 
  Phone: 615-399-7000 x:333
 
  Griffin Technology
  2030 Lindell Avenue Nashville, TN  37203 USA

Re: google troubles?

2013-07-10 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mike Jackson m...@routed.ca wrote:
 I just realized that it's not Google IP space (74.125.0.0/16), Rogers is
 hijacking the DNS and resolving www.google.com to space within
 64.71.240.0/20 which is Rogers IP space! (note the name server set as
 8.8.8.8)


so:
 1) rogers is hijacking traffic to 8.8.8.8
 2) the copy of 8.8.8.8 in rogers-land is replying with incorrect
information for google properties (at least).

err... any idea if it's lying about other things too? :)

 davinci#traceroute www.google.com

 Translating www.google.com...domain server (8.8.8.8) [OK]

 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Tracing the route to www.google.com (66.185.85.29)

   1 x.x.x.x [AS 812] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
   2 so-4-0-2.gw02.ym.phub.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.82.129) [AS 812] 8
 msec 8 msec 4 msec
   3 69.63.252.222 [AS 812] 4 msec 0 msec 8 msec
   4 69.63.250.162 [AS 812] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
   5  *  *  *
   6  *  *  *
   7  *  *  *
   8  *  *  *
   9  *  *  *
  10  *  *  *

 TOR2-CORE-R1#show ip bgp 66.185.85.29
 BGP routing table entry for 66.185.80.0/20, version 13095115
 Paths: (1 available, best #1, table default)
   Advertised to update-groups:
  14
   701 6461 812
 205.205.23.121 from 205.205.23.121 (137.39.8.42)
   Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best
 TOR2-CORE-R1#


 Thanks,

   - Mike


 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Mike Jackson m...@routed.ca wrote:

 I can see the Google IP space (64.71.240.0/20) from Verizon/AS701, but
 not from Rogers/AS812 in Toronto.  I've done a few other test traceroutes
 through Rogers to verify that they didn't filter UDP/ICMP.  At this point
 nothing would surprise me from Rogers.

 AS701
 =

 TOR2-CORE-R1#traceroute www.google.com
 Translating www.google.com...domain server (8.8.8.8) [OK]

 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Tracing the route to www.google.com (74.125.26.99)
 VRF info: (vrf in name/id, vrf out name/id)
   1 x.x.x.x [AS701] 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec
   2 0.ge-11-0-0.XT4.TOR2.ALTER.NET (152.63.133.78) [AS 701] 4 msec 0 msec
 4 msec
   3 0.so-4-0-3.XT2.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.73) [AS 701] 16 msec 16 msec
 16 msec
   4 TenGigE0-7-1-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.21.125) [AS 701] 20 msec
 TenGigE0-5-1-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.21.73) [AS 701] 16 msec
 TenGigE0-5-4-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.18.206) [AS 701] 20 msec
   5 72.14.238.232 [AS 15169] 16 msec 16 msec 20 msec
   6 72.14.236.208 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 680976 Exp 4] 16 msec 16 msec
 72.14.236.206 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 533197 Exp 4] 20 msec
   7 209.85.249.11 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 16668 Exp 4] 24 msec
 72.14.239.93 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 14644 Exp 4] 24 msec
 209.85.249.11 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 13978 Exp 4] 24 msec
   8 209.85.243.114 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 568789 Exp 4] 32 msec
 209.85.241.222 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 632535 Exp 4] 32 msec 32 msec
   9 216.239.48.159 [AS 15169] 36 msec 32 msec
 216.239.48.59 [AS 15169] 32 msec
  10 www.google.com (74.125.26.147) [AS 15169] 32 msec 32 msec 32 msec



 AS812 (Rogers Looking Glass https://supernoc.rogerstelecom.net/lg/)
 ===

 *Query:* *tr 64.71.249.45*

 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Tracing the route to 64.71.249.45

   1 64.71.255.62 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
   2 ge-4-3-0.gw02.ym.phub.net.cable.ROGERS.com (66.185.82.237) 4 msec 4 msec 
 4 msec
   3 69.63.250.189 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
   4 69.63.250.174 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
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 Cheers,

   - MJ


 -Original Message-
 From: Grant Ridder [mailto:shortdudey...@gmail.com]
 Sent: July-10-13 10:57 AM
 To: John York
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: google troubles?

 Does anyone have traceroutes showing where the issues are?

 -Grant

 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:45 AM, John York
 jo...@griffintechnology.comwrote:

  We saw the same thing, but seems to be cleared up now. All our
  providers that routed to Google addresses in ATL had the issue. We
  have one provider that lands on Google addresses in DFW, and it was
 working.
 
  ...And now I see that it isn't completely resolved. Some Google apps
  are still inaccessible via the Atlanta routes.
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Blair Trosper
  blair.tros...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Seeing lots of reports of people unable to get to many Google
 services.
Seems to be affecting Comcast users disproportionately.  It's fine
   for
  me,
   but a lot of my staff are basically out of luck...but according to
   the Google Apps Status page, everything is fine.
  
   It's anecdotal, but it would seem like there's an issue based on
   these reports.
  
   Oh

Re: google troubles?

2013-07-10 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Christopher Morrow
morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mike Jackson m...@routed.ca wrote:
 I just realized that it's not Google IP space (74.125.0.0/16), Rogers is
 hijacking the DNS and resolving www.google.com to space within
 64.71.240.0/20 which is Rogers IP space! (note the name server set as
 8.8.8.8)


 so:
  1) rogers is hijacking traffic to 8.8.8.8
  2) the copy of 8.8.8.8 in rogers-land is replying with incorrect
 information for google properties (at least).

 err... any idea if it's lying about other things too? :)


oops, so a polite caller noted that google often ships people at a
local 'google global cache' node if they have one... it seems like
that might be what's going on here with 8.8.8.8 sending you to 64.71
and/or 66.185 addresses.

so maybe rogers isn't doing something untoward after all!

-chris
(thanks for the headslap polite caller)

 davinci#traceroute www.google.com

 Translating www.google.com...domain server (8.8.8.8) [OK]

 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Tracing the route to www.google.com (66.185.85.29)

   1 x.x.x.x [AS 812] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
   2 so-4-0-2.gw02.ym.phub.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.82.129) [AS 812] 8
 msec 8 msec 4 msec
   3 69.63.252.222 [AS 812] 4 msec 0 msec 8 msec
   4 69.63.250.162 [AS 812] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
   5  *  *  *
   6  *  *  *
   7  *  *  *
   8  *  *  *
   9  *  *  *
  10  *  *  *

 TOR2-CORE-R1#show ip bgp 66.185.85.29
 BGP routing table entry for 66.185.80.0/20, version 13095115
 Paths: (1 available, best #1, table default)
   Advertised to update-groups:
  14
   701 6461 812
 205.205.23.121 from 205.205.23.121 (137.39.8.42)
   Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best
 TOR2-CORE-R1#


 Thanks,

   - Mike


 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Mike Jackson m...@routed.ca wrote:

 I can see the Google IP space (64.71.240.0/20) from Verizon/AS701, but
 not from Rogers/AS812 in Toronto.  I've done a few other test traceroutes
 through Rogers to verify that they didn't filter UDP/ICMP.  At this point
 nothing would surprise me from Rogers.

 AS701
 =

 TOR2-CORE-R1#traceroute www.google.com
 Translating www.google.com...domain server (8.8.8.8) [OK]

 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Tracing the route to www.google.com (74.125.26.99)
 VRF info: (vrf in name/id, vrf out name/id)
   1 x.x.x.x [AS701] 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec
   2 0.ge-11-0-0.XT4.TOR2.ALTER.NET (152.63.133.78) [AS 701] 4 msec 0 msec
 4 msec
   3 0.so-4-0-3.XT2.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.73) [AS 701] 16 msec 16 msec
 16 msec
   4 TenGigE0-7-1-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.21.125) [AS 701] 20 msec
 TenGigE0-5-1-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.21.73) [AS 701] 16 msec
 TenGigE0-5-4-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.18.206) [AS 701] 20 msec
   5 72.14.238.232 [AS 15169] 16 msec 16 msec 20 msec
   6 72.14.236.208 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 680976 Exp 4] 16 msec 16 msec
 72.14.236.206 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 533197 Exp 4] 20 msec
   7 209.85.249.11 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 16668 Exp 4] 24 msec
 72.14.239.93 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 14644 Exp 4] 24 msec
 209.85.249.11 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 13978 Exp 4] 24 msec
   8 209.85.243.114 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 568789 Exp 4] 32 msec
 209.85.241.222 [AS 15169] [MPLS: Label 632535 Exp 4] 32 msec 32 msec
   9 216.239.48.159 [AS 15169] 36 msec 32 msec
 216.239.48.59 [AS 15169] 32 msec
  10 www.google.com (74.125.26.147) [AS 15169] 32 msec 32 msec 32 msec



 AS812 (Rogers Looking Glass https://supernoc.rogerstelecom.net/lg/)
 ===

 *Query:* *tr 64.71.249.45*

 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Tracing the route to 64.71.249.45

   1 64.71.255.62 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
   2 ge-4-3-0.gw02.ym.phub.net.cable.ROGERS.com (66.185.82.237) 4 msec 4 
 msec 4 msec
   3 69.63.250.189 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
   4 69.63.250.174 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
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 Cheers,

   - MJ


 -Original Message-
 From: Grant Ridder [mailto:shortdudey...@gmail.com]
 Sent: July-10-13 10:57 AM
 To: John York
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: google troubles?

 Does anyone have traceroutes showing where the issues are?

 -Grant

 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:45 AM, John York
 jo...@griffintechnology.comwrote:

  We saw the same thing, but seems to be cleared up now. All our
  providers that routed to Google addresses in ATL had the issue. We
  have one provider that lands on Google addresses in DFW, and it was
 working.
 
  ...And now I see that it isn't completely resolved. Some Google apps
  are still inaccessible via the Atlanta routes.
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Blair

Re: google troubles?

2013-07-10 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Mike Jackson m...@routed.ca wrote:
 That makes sense, I figured it was some type of a CDN caching environment.

I forget that we do this at times... :)

 I've found that youtube.com is in the same boat:

 Translating www.youtube.com...domain server (8.8.8.8) [OK]

yup, so this makes sense as well... good.



Re: google troubles?

2013-07-10 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Mike Jackson m...@routed.ca wrote:
 Hey Chris, long time!

 From what I can tell, it's only Google Services (that I've found so far;
 other things appear to resolve correctly).  I'm wondering if they're
 bouncing Google based traffic through some type of caching / accelerator?
 Or maybe it's an NSA/DPI box ;)

in .CA? :) don't you mean the meat-helmet-wearing CSE folks? :)

 I've tested Maps, Gmail, Translate as well as www.google.com, www.google.ca
 and they're all hijacked replies 


yup... well, not hijacked in a bad sense... it's actually supposed to
be making things better.


 Translating www.google.com...domain server (8.8.8.8) [OK]

 (www.google.com)

 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Tracing the route to www.google.com (66.185.84.44)

 (www.google.ca)

 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Tracing the route to www.google.ca (66.185.95.44)

 (gmail)

 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Tracing the route to www3.l.google.com (66.185.85.39)

 (maps)

 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Tracing the route to maps.l.google.com (64.71.249.114)

 (translate)

 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Tracing the route to www3.l.google.com (66.185.84.30)

those all seem properly done, yes.

-chris



Re: google troubles?

2013-07-10 Thread Mike Jackson
  *  *  *
 
 
  Cheers,
 
- MJ
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Grant Ridder [mailto:shortdudey...@gmail.com]
  Sent: July-10-13 10:57 AM
  To: John York
  Cc: nanog@nanog.org
  Subject: Re: google troubles?
 
  Does anyone have traceroutes showing where the issues are?
 
  -Grant
 
  On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:45 AM, John York
  jo...@griffintechnology.comwrote:
 
   We saw the same thing, but seems to be cleared up now. All our
   providers that routed to Google addresses in ATL had the issue. We
   have one provider that lands on Google addresses in DFW, and it was
  working.
  
   ...And now I see that it isn't completely resolved. Some Google apps
   are still inaccessible via the Atlanta routes.
  
  
  
  
   On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Blair Trosper
   blair.tros...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
Seeing lots of reports of people unable to get to many Google
  services.
 Seems to be affecting Comcast users disproportionately.  It's fine
for
   me,
but a lot of my staff are basically out of luck...but according to
the Google Apps Status page, everything is fine.
   
It's anecdotal, but it would seem like there's an issue based on
these reports.
   
Oh, and this:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/tech/web/google-down/index.html
   
Anyone know what's up?  Fiber cut?  DC outages?
   
-- blair
   
  
  
  
   --
  
   John York
  
   Information Technology | Network Administrator
  
   Phone: 615-399-7000 x:333
  
   Griffin Technology
   2030 Lindell Avenue Nashville, TN  37203 USA
  
   This message and any attachments should be treated as confidential
   information of Griffin Technology, Inc.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: google troubles?

2013-07-10 Thread Mike Jackson
 [mailto:shortdudey...@gmail.com]
  Sent: July-10-13 10:57 AM
  To: John York
  Cc: nanog@nanog.org
  Subject: Re: google troubles?
 
  Does anyone have traceroutes showing where the issues are?
 
  -Grant
 
  On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:45 AM, John York
  jo...@griffintechnology.comwrote:
 
   We saw the same thing, but seems to be cleared up now. All our
   providers that routed to Google addresses in ATL had the issue. We
   have one provider that lands on Google addresses in DFW, and it was
  working.
  
   ...And now I see that it isn't completely resolved. Some Google apps
   are still inaccessible via the Atlanta routes.
  
  
  
  
   On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Blair Trosper
   blair.tros...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
Seeing lots of reports of people unable to get to many Google
  services.
 Seems to be affecting Comcast users disproportionately.  It's
 fine
for
   me,
but a lot of my staff are basically out of luck...but according to
the Google Apps Status page, everything is fine.
   
It's anecdotal, but it would seem like there's an issue based on
these reports.
   
Oh, and this:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/tech/web/google-down/index.html
   
Anyone know what's up?  Fiber cut?  DC outages?
   
-- blair
   
  
  
  
   --
  
   John York
  
   Information Technology | Network Administrator
  
   Phone: 615-399-7000 x:333
  
   Griffin Technology
   2030 Lindell Avenue Nashville, TN  37203 USA
  
   This message and any attachments should be treated as confidential
   information of Griffin Technology, Inc.