Re: public scalable vpn?

2012-02-19 Thread Steven Bellovin

On Feb 18, 2012, at 6:51 PM, George Bonser wrote:

>> academics in ontario are gonna need a scalable vpn service until they
>> find jobs elsewhere.
>> 
>> http://www.cautbulletin.ca/en_article.asp?SectionID=1386&SectionName=Ne
>> ws&VolID=336&VolumeName=No%202&VolumeStartDate=2/10/2012&EditionID=36&E
>> ditionName=Vol%2059&EditionStartDate=1/19/2012&ArticleID=3400
>> 
>> i can only handle a dozen or so.  anyone running anything at scale?
>> 
>> randy
> 
> "The agreement reached last month with the licensing agency includes 
> provisions defining e-mailing hyperlinks as equivalent to photocopying a 
> document"
> 
> I certainly hope that is some politicized hype printed in that article and 
> not real.  That is absolutely idiotic on the face of it.  When I have seen 
> stuff like this printed in the past it has generally been over the top 
> catastrophizing of an issue in order to inflame emotions.  I sure hope that's 
> the case here.  Otherwise my impression of Canadians has sunk to a new low.  
> Why would it be in anyone's interest to sign such an agreement?

It seems to be real -- see 
http://communications.uwo.ca/western_news/stories/2012/February/copyright_deal_struck.html

I asked a Canadian friend of mine (who has serious privacy and security 
expertise) about it.  She said "Yes - we were discussing this vile decision in 
my Technopolicy law class...  I have no idea what they were thinking! Idiots."

--Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb








Re: public scalable vpn?

2012-02-18 Thread David Miller

On 2/18/2012 6:27 PM, Randy Bush wrote:

academics in ontario are gonna need a scalable vpn service until they
find jobs elsewhere.

http://www.cautbulletin.ca/en_article.asp?SectionID=1386&SectionName=News&VolID=336&VolumeName=No%202&VolumeStartDate=2/10/2012&EditionID=36&EditionName=Vol%2059&EditionStartDate=1/19/2012&ArticleID=3400

i can only handle a dozen or so.  anyone running anything at scale?

randy



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-DMM




RE: public scalable vpn?

2012-02-18 Thread George Bonser
> I certainly hope that is some politicized hype printed in that article
> and not real.  

For example, if I have a copy of a copyrighted piece that I am not authorized 
to redistribute on a server and I send someone a hyperlink to it so they can 
download it, I can see that as different from sending them a hyperlink to the 
legitimate distribution outlet for the piece and I am concerned that the author 
of the article has been careful not to mention that distinction for the sole 
purpose of making it appear much more draconian than it really is.  On the 
other hand, giving a third party ANY access to my employees' correspondence for 
ANY purpose is reason to be seriously concerned as that could be abused in any 
number of ways.






RE: public scalable vpn?

2012-02-18 Thread George Bonser
> academics in ontario are gonna need a scalable vpn service until they
> find jobs elsewhere.
> 
> http://www.cautbulletin.ca/en_article.asp?SectionID=1386&SectionName=Ne
> ws&VolID=336&VolumeName=No%202&VolumeStartDate=2/10/2012&EditionID=36&E
> ditionName=Vol%2059&EditionStartDate=1/19/2012&ArticleID=3400
> 
> i can only handle a dozen or so.  anyone running anything at scale?
> 
> randy

"The agreement reached last month with the licensing agency includes provisions 
defining e-mailing hyperlinks as equivalent to photocopying a document"

I certainly hope that is some politicized hype printed in that article and not 
real.  That is absolutely idiotic on the face of it.  When I have seen stuff 
like this printed in the past it has generally been over the top 
catastrophizing of an issue in order to inflame emotions.  I sure hope that's 
the case here.  Otherwise my impression of Canadians has sunk to a new low.  
Why would it be in anyone's interest to sign such an agreement?





public scalable vpn?

2012-02-18 Thread Randy Bush
academics in ontario are gonna need a scalable vpn service until they
find jobs elsewhere.

http://www.cautbulletin.ca/en_article.asp?SectionID=1386&SectionName=News&VolID=336&VolumeName=No%202&VolumeStartDate=2/10/2012&EditionID=36&EditionName=Vol%2059&EditionStartDate=1/19/2012&ArticleID=3400

i can only handle a dozen or so.  anyone running anything at scale?

randy