Re: qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to pick them up please...

2012-11-03 Thread PC
For some more information, this previous document and presentation make
good resources:

Document:

http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog47/presentations/Sunday/RAS_Traceroute_N47_Sun.pdf

There's also a presentation here:

http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog45/presentations/Interpret_traceroutes.wmv




On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Randy  wrote:

> --- On Sat, 11/3/12, Christopher Morrow  wrote:
>
> > From: Christopher Morrow 
> > Subject: Re: qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to
> pick them up please...
> > To: "Randy Bush" 
> > Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" 
> > Date: Saturday, November 3, 2012, 7:04 PM
> > On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Randy
> > Bush 
> > wrote:
> > >> one router along the path showing loss that does
> > not continue to
> > >> affect the rest of the path simply means the cpu on
> > that router
> > >> is a bit too busy to respond to icmp messages
> > >
> > > trivial footnote: some folk configure some routers to
> > rate limit
> > > icmp
> >
> > other trivial footnote, not all traceroute is icmp.
> >
>  True, wrt to destination. However all intermediate(including penultimate)
> hops reveal themselves via ICMP type 11 Code 0 (TTL exceeded in transit)
> ./Randy
>
>
>


Re: qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to pick them up please...

2012-11-03 Thread Randy
--- On Sat, 11/3/12, Christopher Morrow  wrote:

> From: Christopher Morrow 
> Subject: Re: qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to pick 
> them up please...
> To: "Randy Bush" 
> Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" 
> Date: Saturday, November 3, 2012, 7:04 PM
> On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Randy
> Bush 
> wrote:
> >> one router along the path showing loss that does
> not continue to
> >> affect the rest of the path simply means the cpu on
> that router
> >> is a bit too busy to respond to icmp messages
> >
> > trivial footnote: some folk configure some routers to
> rate limit
> > icmp
> 
> other trivial footnote, not all traceroute is icmp.
> 
 True, wrt to destination. However all intermediate(including penultimate) hops 
reveal themselves via ICMP type 11 Code 0 (TTL exceeded in transit)
./Randy




Re: qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to pick them up please...

2012-11-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Randy Bush  wrote:
>> one router along the path showing loss that does not continue to
>> affect the rest of the path simply means the cpu on that router
>> is a bit too busy to respond to icmp messages
>
> trivial footnote: some folk configure some routers to rate limit
> icmp

other trivial footnote, not all traceroute is icmp.



Re: qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to pick them up please...

2012-11-03 Thread Randy Bush
> one router along the path showing loss that does not continue to
> affect the rest of the path simply means the cpu on that router
> is a bit too busy to respond to icmp messages

trivial footnote: some folk configure some routers to rate limit
icmp

randy



Re: qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to pick them up please...

2012-11-02 Thread Don Gould

Hi Matt (and other helpful posters off list),

Yes, makes sense.

I'm told this pops up twice a month, so opps, clearly I need to spend 
more time reading and learning! :)


Thanks to the person who pointed out the PTR rec suggests that the 
impacted resource might be more west than I realised.  I confess I don't 
know the .us very well at all.


D

On 3/11/2012 6:43 p.m., Matthew Petach wrote:
Hi Don, based on your mtr output, there's no loss to the end 
destination; one router along the path showing loss that does not 
continue to affect the rest of the path simply means the cpu on that 
router is a bit too busy to respond to icmp messages; but there's 0% 
loss beyond it, which means it's doing its primary job of forwarding 
packets just fine. Thanks, and have a wonderful weekend! Matt 



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Mairehau
Christchurch, New Zealand
Ph: + 64 3 348 7235
Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699




Re: qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to pick them up please...

2012-11-02 Thread Matthew Petach
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Don Gould  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Hope you're all getting on top of Sandy.
>
> Trying to hit kajabi.com, I'm getting up to 60% packet loss off qwest.net -
> dca2-edge-02.inet.qwest.net
>
> A bit of quick googleing and we assumed that they're on the west coast of
> US, so please excuse (and just ignore me) if you're on the east coast and
> this is being caused by all the Sandy issues (yes I've been following the
> Outage list and think you guys are just doing an amazing job right now!!!)
>
> Re the subject - told the wife that her problem is likely being caused by
> packets being dropped by qwest, her response "can someone pick them up for
> me plse :)"
>
>
> mx.8013.yournet.co.nz (0.0.0.0)Sat Nov  3 16:43:18
> 2012
> Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
>Packets   Pings
>  HostLoss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best Wrst
> StDev
>  1. router0.0%390.2   0.2   0.2 0.3
> 0.0
>  2. ???
>  3. 218.101.61.1010.0%399.1  21.8   7.0 173.6
> 33.4
>  4. ie2-g-0-0-0.telstraclear.net  0.0%39   38.0  22.9  19.6 38.0
> 3.5
>  5. ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstracl  0.0%39   22.2  22.9  18.9 38.5
> 3.9
>  6. unknown.telstraglobal.net 0.0%39   23.4  22.1  17.6 26.4
> 1.4
>  7. i-0-6-1-0.tlot-core01.bx.telstra  0.0%39  153.4 153.3 151.2 163.9
> 2.3
>  8. i-4-2.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.ne  0.0%39  147.0 154.8 143.5 313.8
> 27.7
>  9. lap-brdr-04.inet.qwest.net0.0%39  154.2 154.5 152.0 159.2
> 1.6
> 10. dca2-edge-02.inet.qwest.net  10.5%39  221.0 223.1 217.1 247.6
> 6.6
> 11. 67.133.224.1940.0%39  220.8 222.2 216.3 268.6
> 8.1
> 12. 72.21.220.161 0.0%39  221.2 225.3 217.6 268.2
> 10.8
> 13. 72.21.222.139 0.0%38  220.9 222.8 216.6 266.6
> 7.5
> 14. 216.182.224.8 0.0%38  221.3 223.2 220.5 243.9
> 4.1
> 15. ???
>
> D
> --
> Don Gould
> 31 Acheson Ave
> Mairehau
> Christchurch, New Zealand
> Ph: + 64 3 348 7235
> Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
>
>


Hi Don,

based on your mtr output, there's no loss to the
end destination; one router along the path showing
loss that does not continue to affect the rest of the
path simply means the cpu on that router is a bit
too busy to respond to icmp messages; but there's
0% loss beyond it, which means it's doing its primary
job of forwarding packets just fine.

Thanks, and have a wonderful weekend!

Matt



qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to pick them up please...

2012-11-02 Thread Don Gould

Hi all,

Hope you're all getting on top of Sandy.

Trying to hit kajabi.com, I'm getting up to 60% packet loss off 
qwest.net - dca2-edge-02.inet.qwest.net


A bit of quick googleing and we assumed that they're on the west coast 
of US, so please excuse (and just ignore me) if you're on the east coast 
and this is being caused by all the Sandy issues (yes I've been 
following the Outage list and think you guys are just doing an amazing 
job right now!!!)


Re the subject - told the wife that her problem is likely being caused 
by packets being dropped by qwest, her response "can someone pick them 
up for me plse :)"



mx.8013.yournet.co.nz (0.0.0.0)Sat Nov  3 
16:43:18 2012

Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
   Packets   Pings
 HostLoss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best 
Wrst StDev
 1. router0.0%390.2   0.2   0.2 
0.3   0.0

 2. ???
 3. 218.101.61.1010.0%399.1  21.8   7.0 
173.6  33.4
 4. ie2-g-0-0-0.telstraclear.net  0.0%39   38.0  22.9  19.6 
38.0   3.5
 5. ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstracl  0.0%39   22.2  22.9  18.9 
38.5   3.9
 6. unknown.telstraglobal.net 0.0%39   23.4  22.1  17.6 
26.4   1.4
 7. i-0-6-1-0.tlot-core01.bx.telstra  0.0%39  153.4 153.3 151.2 
163.9   2.3
 8. i-4-2.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.ne  0.0%39  147.0 154.8 143.5 
313.8  27.7
 9. lap-brdr-04.inet.qwest.net0.0%39  154.2 154.5 152.0 
159.2   1.6
10. dca2-edge-02.inet.qwest.net  10.5%39  221.0 223.1 217.1 
247.6   6.6
11. 67.133.224.1940.0%39  220.8 222.2 216.3 
268.6   8.1
12. 72.21.220.161 0.0%39  221.2 225.3 217.6 
268.2  10.8
13. 72.21.222.139 0.0%38  220.9 222.8 216.6 
266.6   7.5
14. 216.182.224.8 0.0%38  221.3 223.2 220.5 
243.9   4.1

15. ???

D
--
Don Gould
31 Acheson Ave
Mairehau
Christchurch, New Zealand
Ph: + 64 3 348 7235
Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699