Re: reclaiming arin IP allocations?
You can't get their IP space revoked just because you got a stupid response from a confused/uneducated/overworked abuse handler. If you could, Yahoo and Hotmail would have been shut down ages ago. :) On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 goe...@anime.net wrote: i reported abuse to them that was originating directly from 209.17.115.109, they responded stating they have no control over the origin IP and that i should look up the IP in arin to get the owner. -Dan On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Mel Beckman wrote: What makes you think they are disavowing ownership? Did they state that to you personally, or are you inferring that from other information? -mel beckman On Apr 13, 2015, at 1:36 PM, goe...@anime.net goe...@anime.net wrote: web.com/netsol is disavowing ownership of 209.17.115.109. NetRange: 209.17.112.0 - 209.17.127.255 CIDR: 209.17.112.0/20 NetName:WEB-COM-BLK3 NetHandle: NET-209-17-112-0-1 Parent: NET209 (NET-209-0-0-0-0) What is the process to get this netblock reclaimed? -Dan -- Jon Lewis, MCP :) | I route | therefore you are _ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_
Re: reclaiming arin IP allocations?
Rob Seastrom r...@seastrom.com writes: goe...@anime.net writes: Note ARIN has attempted to validate the data for this POC, but has received no response from the POC since 2013-11-06 So if the owner does not care to respond to ARIN, what now? POC validation has an extraordinarily low success rate (under 50% if memory serves). Since this is a direct allocation and the space has not been revoked (pulled for cause, e.g. non-payment), I can only assume that the billing POC over snail mail is continuing to work as anticipated. -r A, irony. :-) goe...@anime.net SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:r...@seastrom.com: host sasami.anime.net [207.109.251.120]: 554 5.7.1 twit filter -r
Re: reclaiming arin IP allocations?
goe...@anime.net writes: Note ARIN has attempted to validate the data for this POC, but has received no response from the POC since 2013-11-06 So if the owner does not care to respond to ARIN, what now? POC validation has an extraordinarily low success rate (under 50% if memory serves). Since this is a direct allocation and the space has not been revoked (pulled for cause, e.g. non-payment), I can only assume that the billing POC over snail mail is continuing to work as anticipated. -r
Re: reclaiming arin IP allocations?
This is just a typical Drop the bomb, and soften the blow technique. On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org wrote: Show them the Whois info and that might change their mind. Asking to reclaim the space is silly. -mel On Apr 13, 2015, at 1:53 PM, goe...@anime.net wrote: i reported abuse to them that was originating directly from 209.17.115.109, they responded stating they have no control over the origin IP and that i should look up the IP in arin to get the owner. -Dan On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Mel Beckman wrote: What makes you think they are disavowing ownership? Did they state that to you personally, or are you inferring that from other information? -mel beckman On Apr 13, 2015, at 1:36 PM, goe...@anime.net goe...@anime.net wrote: web.com/netsol is disavowing ownership of 209.17.115.109. NetRange: 209.17.112.0 - 209.17.127.255 CIDR: 209.17.112.0/20 NetName:WEB-COM-BLK3 NetHandle: NET-209-17-112-0-1 Parent: NET209 (NET-209-0-0-0-0) What is the process to get this netblock reclaimed? -Dan -- eSited LLC (701) 390-9638
Re: reclaiming arin IP allocations?
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Bill Woodcock wrote: Speaking individually, not with my ARIN board hat on: If you???d like to report the address to ab...@arin.net, an ARIN postmaster can contact the web.com POC, and get an authoritative answer. Very interesting: http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-209-17-112-0-1/pft Note ARIN has attempted to validate the data for this POC, but has received no response from the POC since 2013-11-06 So if the owner does not care to respond to ARIN, what now? -Dan
Re: reclaiming arin IP allocations?
kinda looks like their routers still ask it to be routed to them: 19871 | 209.17.112.0 | NETWORK-SOLUTIONS-HOSTING - Network Solutions, LLC,US and stat.ripe.net: https://stat.ripe.net/%20209.17.112.0%2F20#tabId=routing the 2 /21's are 19871 originated, with the last /24 from 36476 (web.com's as) On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org wrote: What makes you think they are disavowing ownership? Did they state that to you personally, or are you inferring that from other information? -mel beckman On Apr 13, 2015, at 1:36 PM, goe...@anime.net goe...@anime.net wrote: web.com/netsol is disavowing ownership of 209.17.115.109. NetRange: 209.17.112.0 - 209.17.127.255 CIDR: 209.17.112.0/20 NetName:WEB-COM-BLK3 NetHandle: NET-209-17-112-0-1 Parent: NET209 (NET-209-0-0-0-0) What is the process to get this netblock reclaimed? -Dan
reclaiming arin IP allocations?
web.com/netsol is disavowing ownership of 209.17.115.109. NetRange: 209.17.112.0 - 209.17.127.255 CIDR: 209.17.112.0/20 NetName:WEB-COM-BLK3 NetHandle: NET-209-17-112-0-1 Parent: NET209 (NET-209-0-0-0-0) What is the process to get this netblock reclaimed? -Dan
Re: reclaiming arin IP allocations?
i reported abuse to them that was originating directly from 209.17.115.109, they responded stating they have no control over the origin IP and that i should look up the IP in arin to get the owner. -Dan On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Mel Beckman wrote: What makes you think they are disavowing ownership? Did they state that to you personally, or are you inferring that from other information? -mel beckman On Apr 13, 2015, at 1:36 PM, goe...@anime.net goe...@anime.net wrote: web.com/netsol is disavowing ownership of 209.17.115.109. NetRange: 209.17.112.0 - 209.17.127.255 CIDR: 209.17.112.0/20 NetName:WEB-COM-BLK3 NetHandle: NET-209-17-112-0-1 Parent: NET209 (NET-209-0-0-0-0) What is the process to get this netblock reclaimed? -Dan
Re: reclaiming arin IP allocations?
What makes you think they are disavowing ownership? Did they state that to you personally, or are you inferring that from other information? -mel beckman On Apr 13, 2015, at 1:36 PM, goe...@anime.net goe...@anime.net wrote: web.com/netsol is disavowing ownership of 209.17.115.109. NetRange: 209.17.112.0 - 209.17.127.255 CIDR: 209.17.112.0/20 NetName:WEB-COM-BLK3 NetHandle: NET-209-17-112-0-1 Parent: NET209 (NET-209-0-0-0-0) What is the process to get this netblock reclaimed? -Dan
Re: reclaiming arin IP allocations?
Show them the Whois info and that might change their mind. Asking to reclaim the space is silly. -mel On Apr 13, 2015, at 1:53 PM, goe...@anime.net wrote: i reported abuse to them that was originating directly from 209.17.115.109, they responded stating they have no control over the origin IP and that i should look up the IP in arin to get the owner. -Dan On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Mel Beckman wrote: What makes you think they are disavowing ownership? Did they state that to you personally, or are you inferring that from other information? -mel beckman On Apr 13, 2015, at 1:36 PM, goe...@anime.net goe...@anime.net wrote: web.com/netsol is disavowing ownership of 209.17.115.109. NetRange: 209.17.112.0 - 209.17.127.255 CIDR: 209.17.112.0/20 NetName:WEB-COM-BLK3 NetHandle: NET-209-17-112-0-1 Parent: NET209 (NET-209-0-0-0-0) What is the process to get this netblock reclaimed? -Dan
Re: reclaiming arin IP allocations?
On Apr 13, 2015, at 1:53 PM, goe...@anime.net wrote: i reported abuse to them that was originating directly from 209.17.115.109, they responded stating they have no control over the origin IP and that i should look up the IP in arin to get the owner. -Dan On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Mel Beckman wrote: What makes you think they are disavowing ownership? Did they state that to you personally, or are you inferring that from other information? -mel beckman On Apr 13, 2015, at 1:36 PM, goe...@anime.net goe...@anime.net wrote: web.com/netsol is disavowing ownership of 209.17.115.109. NetRange: 209.17.112.0 - 209.17.127.255 CIDR: 209.17.112.0/20 NetName:WEB-COM-BLK3 NetHandle: NET-209-17-112-0-1 Parent: NET209 (NET-209-0-0-0-0) What is the process to get this netblock reclaimed? -Dan A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? Speaking individually, not with my ARIN board hat on: If you’d like to report the address to ab...@arin.net, an ARIN postmaster can contact the web.com POC, and get an authoritative answer. -Bill signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: reclaiming arin IP allocations?
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 4:53 PM, goe...@anime.net wrote: i reported abuse to them that was originating directly from 209.17.115.109, they responded stating they have no control over the origin IP and that i should look up the IP in arin to get the owner. it kind of sounds like they are confused and maybe asking them: Are you sure because the call is coming from inside your house is in order.
