Re: How do I handle a supplier that delivered a faulty product?

2014-11-26 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:41 AM, Nick B n...@pelagiris.org wrote:
 At no point does that spec say a single thing about speed.  The closest
 part I could find was Upstream data rate 1.244Gbps, but I think it's
 pretty clear that that is the link speed, not the actual data rate.  It's
 worth wringing them out over the issue, maybe you can shame them into
 taking the units back, but I don't think you will have much luck pinning
 them down legally on some nebulous belief that it would run at wire rate
 gigabit.

Hi Nick,

That's the beauty of the implied warranty of fitness for particular
purpose. The seller doesn't have to give any specs at all. He just has to
lead you to believe that the product is suitable for some purpose, such as
providing gige to customers. Sometimes, even the fact that the seller was
aware of the buyer's intended use and failed to warn him is enough. If it
then proves unsuitable for that purpose for any reason, the seller is on
the hook.

IANAL and I think Baldur should consult one before taking any action, but
unless Baldur's use obviously and significantly differed from Zhone's
advertised intended use Baldur probably has a case.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/2/2-315

Regards,
Bill Herrin



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Re: Seeking IPv6 Security Resources

2014-11-26 Thread Arturo Servin
Chris

Some that come to my mind:

draft-ietf-v6ops-balanced-ipv6-security and (not sure how up to date is
this one) RFC 6092 Recommended Simple Security Capabilities in Customer
Premises Equipment (CPE) for Providing Residential IPv6 Internet Service
RFC 5157 IPv6 Implications for Network Scanning and
draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-host-scanning
RFC 6104, 6105, 7113 All about Router Advertisement Guard (RA-Guard)
draft-ietf-opsec-v6
RFC 6583 Operational Neighbor Discovery Problems

Regards
as

On Tue Nov 25 2014 at 8:34:16 PM Chris Grundemann cgrundem...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hail NANOG!

 I am looking for IPv6 security resources to add to:
 http://www.internetsociety.org/deploy360/ipv6/security/

 These could be best current practice documents, case-studies,
 lessons-learned/issues-found, research/evaluations, RFCs, or anything else
 focused on IPv6 security really.

 I'm not requesting that anyone do any new work, just that you point me to
 solid public documents that already exist. Feel free to share on-list or
 privately, both documents you may have authored and those you have found
 helpful.

 Thanks!
 ~Chris

 Note: Not every document shared will get posted to the Deploy360 site.

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 http://chrisgrundemann.com



Re: Seeking IPv6 Security Resources

2014-11-26 Thread Marco Davids
Hi,

Perhaps https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7217 might also fit in the list.

--
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Arturo Servin schreef op 26-11-14 om 10:28:
 Chris
 
 Some that come to my mind:
 
 draft-ietf-v6ops-balanced-ipv6-security and (not sure how up to date is
 this one) RFC 6092 Recommended Simple Security Capabilities in Customer
 Premises Equipment (CPE) for Providing Residential IPv6 Internet Service
 RFC 5157 IPv6 Implications for Network Scanning and
 draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-host-scanning
 RFC 6104, 6105, 7113 All about Router Advertisement Guard (RA-Guard)
 draft-ietf-opsec-v6
 RFC 6583 Operational Neighbor Discovery Problems
 
 Regards
 as
 
 On Tue Nov 25 2014 at 8:34:16 PM Chris Grundemann cgrundem...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hail NANOG!

 I am looking for IPv6 security resources to add to:
 http://www.internetsociety.org/deploy360/ipv6/security/

 These could be best current practice documents, case-studies,
 lessons-learned/issues-found, research/evaluations, RFCs, or anything else
 focused on IPv6 security really.

 I'm not requesting that anyone do any new work, just that you point me to
 solid public documents that already exist. Feel free to share on-list or
 privately, both documents you may have authored and those you have found
 helpful.

 Thanks!
 ~Chris

 Note: Not every document shared will get posted to the Deploy360 site.

 --
 @ChrisGrundemann
 http://chrisgrundemann.com



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Re: Buying IP Bandwidth Across a Peering Exchange

2014-11-26 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 09:51:47 PM Colton Conor 
wrote:

 Are exchanges really that unreliable compared to a
 traditional cross connect?

Not necessarily. 

It's just that when money is changing hands, folk tend to 
find (passive) x-connects within the data centre to be far 
more reliable (even though they are not infallible) than 
passing traffic across another (active) system being run by 
someone else in the same physical facility.

Plus, some service providers will drastically reduce or 
eliminate SLA's (for whatever they may be worth) if there is 
another active system in between you and their service.

Mark.


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Re: Buying IP Bandwidth Across a Peering Exchange

2014-11-26 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:34:14 PM Eric Van Tol 
wrote:

 It's been a while since I've checked the Equinix Customer
 Agreement and Policies documents, but I know at one time
 they required a physical presence in the in the IDC for
 an Exchange cross-connect.  This may have changed in the
 past several years.

Several exchange points now support some kind of resale 
model, where peering members are transported into the 
exchange point via network, without the need for physical 
presence at the exchange point location.

I'm not sure whether Equinix's exchange points do this.

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Re: Buying IP Bandwidth Across a Peering Exchange

2014-11-26 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 11:03:16 PM Bob Evans wrote:

 I agree with Bill...going it on the cheap is risky. DOn't
 consider it for primary. It may be good for backup. I
 have sold small amounts of transit to non-ISP companies
 on exchanges (100-200 meg). It's a good extra backup for
 ISPs, if you setup your local pref, MED and then prepend
 your AS an extra time or two to the prefixes you
 transmit. Then if you ever need to use it, it's sitting
 there waiting to send and receive traffic. I let ISPs
 customers do that with us for real low cost backup fees.

We don't support that, for example, for reasons stated by 
many before.

Even if we did, we typically don't offer customer services 
on peering routers. So physically, it would be a nightmare 
trying to terminate an IP Transit service from a peering 
member when the only path between us and them is a peering 
router. Yes, tunneling works, but tunnels insert your 
choice of colourful text here.

Mark.


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Re: Buying IP Bandwidth Across a Peering Exchange

2014-11-26 Thread Ammar Zuberi
Hi,

I’m pretty sure IX Reach can take you into an Equinix exchange, so it is 
probably possible that they allow this kind of stuff to happen.

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 On Nov 26, 2014, at 4:38 PM, Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote:
 
 On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:34:14 PM Eric Van Tol 
 wrote:
 
 It's been a while since I've checked the Equinix Customer
 Agreement and Policies documents, but I know at one time
 they required a physical presence in the in the IDC for
 an Exchange cross-connect.  This may have changed in the
 past several years.
 
 Several exchange points now support some kind of resale 
 model, where peering members are transported into the 
 exchange point via network, without the need for physical 
 presence at the exchange point location.
 
 I'm not sure whether Equinix's exchange points do this.
 
 Mark.



Re: Buying IP Bandwidth Across a Peering Exchange

2014-11-26 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 02:42:39 PM Ammar Zuberi 
wrote:

 I’m pretty sure IX Reach can take you into an Equinix
 exchange, so it is probably possible that they allow
 this kind of stuff to happen.

I meant in terms of a reseller model between the exchange 
point and preferred service providers on behalf of the 
exchange point members.

Of course, anyone can transport anyone anywhere, as long as 
the right people are paid. But exchange points have been 
getting into reseller models with transport providers as a 
way to discount what would be a normal transport service 
between two or more points.

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Re: Buying IP Bandwidth Across a Peering Exchange

2014-11-26 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:34:14 -0500, Eric Van Tol said:
 but I know at one time they required a physical presence in the in the IDC
 for an Exchange cross-connect.

At the risk of being snarky, if somebody doesn't have a presence where do
you connect the other end of the cross-connect cable? :)

(Note that's different than I'm in a PoP on the west side of town, and
the logical place to land my uplink is blade 2, port 3 of a router belonging
to $upstream over on the east side of town - that's an external connection
not a cross-connect)


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Re: Buying IP Bandwidth Across a Peering Exchange

2014-11-26 Thread Colton Conor
Well, we would have a BGP router in another town. Then get a wave from a
transport provider from the other town to the town that equinix or the
peering exchange was located at. The cross connect would go from the
transport providers Z location to the port on the exchange. I have
confirmed that Equinix is willing to sell us a port on the exchange even if
we don't have a physical presence there.

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 8:45 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:

 On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:34:14 -0500, Eric Van Tol said:
  but I know at one time they required a physical presence in the in the
 IDC
  for an Exchange cross-connect.

 At the risk of being snarky, if somebody doesn't have a presence where do
 you connect the other end of the cross-connect cable? :)

 (Note that's different than I'm in a PoP on the west side of town, and
 the logical place to land my uplink is blade 2, port 3 of a router
 belonging
 to $upstream over on the east side of town - that's an external connection
 not a cross-connect)



Re: Buying IP Bandwidth Across a Peering Exchange

2014-11-26 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks

 peering exchange was located at. The cross connect would go from the
 transport providers Z location to the port on the exchange. I have

In which case the cross connect is between the target and Z, who *has*
a physical presence at the exchange


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Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Javier J
Name:   thepiratebay.se
Address: 194.71.107.27

Its reachable from some places and not others.

Is it being filtered?

Is it being hijacked?

Email to them bounced from google apps.

Are we now officially living in a police state?

mtr dies at hop 2 for me:

2. l100.nwrknj-vfttp-134.verizon-gni.net  ( 173.70.26.1 )

Is verizon now censoring the internet for me?


Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Works for me


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us
wrote:

 Name:   thepiratebay.se
 Address: 194.71.107.27

 Its reachable from some places and not others.

 Is it being filtered?

 Is it being hijacked?

 Email to them bounced from google apps.

 Are we now officially living in a police state?

 mtr dies at hop 2 for me:

 2. l100.nwrknj-vfttp-134.verizon-gni.net  ( 173.70.26.1 )

 Is verizon now censoring the internet for me?



Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Alistair Mackenzie
All good from hibernia's network (AS5580).
On 26 Nov 2014 17:43, Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us wrote:

 Name:   thepiratebay.se
 Address: 194.71.107.27

 Its reachable from some places and not others.

 Is it being filtered?

 Is it being hijacked?

 Email to them bounced from google apps.

 Are we now officially living in a police state?

 mtr dies at hop 2 for me:

 2. l100.nwrknj-vfttp-134.verizon-gni.net  ( 173.70.26.1 )

 Is verizon now censoring the internet for me?



Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Ken Chase
im hitting 30 hops tracing from one location, and 30 from some EC2s. another 
shows

 4. v638.core1.tor1.he.net   
 5. 100ge1-2.core1.nyc4.he.net   
 6. 100ge7-2.core1.lon2.he.net   
 7. 100ge3-2.core1.ams1.he.net   
 8. 100ge5-1.core1.fra1.he.net   
 9. rrbone.dus.ecix.net  
10. te-2-1-800.bbr-dtm-01.de.infra.rrbone.net
11. ???
12. xe-3-2.r02.dsdfge01.de.bb.gin.ntt.net
13. xe-0-1-0-20.r02.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net   
14. 129.250.9.50 
15. sl-bb21-ams-.sprintlink.net  
16. sl-crs2-lon-0-8-3-0.sprintlink.net   
17. sl-crs2-lon-.sprintlink.net  
18. sl-crs1-nyc-0-5-2-0.sprintlink.net   
19. 144.232.5.216
20. 144.232.18.59
21. 144.232.1.73 
22. 144.232.11.17
23. 144.232.12.41
24. 144.232.7.124
25. sl-st20-sj-0-0-0.sprintlink.net  
26. sl-china6-192107-0.sprintlink.net
27. 219.158.32.174   
28. 175.45.177.217   
29. ???

with some 1/2 ping times by the end. that's quite the trip around the world,
hitting nyc twice. (no hesprintlink peering?)

/kc


On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:41:07PM -0500, Javier J said:
  Name:   thepiratebay.se
  Address: 194.71.107.27
  
  Its reachable from some places and not others.
  
  Is it being filtered?
  
  Is it being hijacked?
  
  Email to them bounced from google apps.
  
  Are we now officially living in a police state?
  
  mtr dies at hop 2 for me:
  
  2. l100.nwrknj-vfttp-134.verizon-gni.net  ( 173.70.26.1 )
  
  Is verizon now censoring the internet for me?

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Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread TR Shaw
From FL I die at

xe-3-2.r02.dsdfge01.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.174)  172.519 ms  155.386 ms  
187.235 ms

On Nov 26, 2014, at 12:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Works for me
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us
 wrote:
 
 Name:   thepiratebay.se
 Address: 194.71.107.27
 
 Its reachable from some places and not others.
 
 Is it being filtered?
 
 Is it being hijacked?
 
 Email to them bounced from google apps.
 
 Are we now officially living in a police state?
 
 mtr dies at hop 2 for me:
 
 2. l100.nwrknj-vfttp-134.verizon-gni.net  ( 173.70.26.1 )
 
 Is verizon now censoring the internet for me?
 



Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Javier J
Here is one from an EC2 instance in Sydney.

 2. 100.68.201.19   0.0%24
 0.5   0.6   0.4   4.3   0.8
 3. 100.68.201.41   0.0%24
 0.4   0.5   0.4   0.6   0.1
 4. 100.67.166.50.0%24
 0.4   0.4   0.3   0.5   0.1
 5. 100.67.164.126  0.0%24
 8.7   3.0   0.9   9.8   3.0
 6. 100.64.134.79   0.0%24
 1.0   4.7   0.8  13.6   4.6
 7. 100.64.129.14   0.0%24
 1.9   2.5   0.8  15.0   3.7
 8. 100.64.57.640.0%24
 0.8   0.6   0.3   3.8   0.7
 9. 100.64.24.690.0%24
 1.0   1.2   0.8   1.8   0.3
10. ec2-54-252-0-16.ap-southeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com0.0%24
 0.4   8.8   0.3  49.3  17.1
11. 54.240.192.108  0.0%23
 2.2   2.2   2.0   3.6   0.4
12. 54.240.192.78   0.0%23
 2.3   3.5   1.9  21.3   4.0
13. 202.68.70.5 0.0%23
 1.7   1.7   1.3   4.1   0.5
14. xe-3-1-0.r00.sydnau02.au.bb.gin.ntt.net 0.0%23
 1.5   1.5   1.4   1.7   0.1
15. as-0.r22.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net 0.0%23
 133.8 115.9 112.8 133.8   6.0
16. ae-8.r25.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net 0.0%23
 113.0 117.9 112.8 138.5   7.3
17. ae-1.r22.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net 0.0%23
 382.1 382.3 381.4 389.4   2.0
18. ae-1.r02.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net 0.0%23
 370.8 369.5 368.8 370.8   0.5
19. ae7.edge6.Amsterdam.Level3.net  0.0%23
 380.7 381.1 380.7 381.6   0.3
20. ae-232-3608.edge4.Amsterdam1.Level3.net 0.0%23
 380.0 381.2 380.0 387.9   2.2
21. AS5580.edge4.Amsterdam1.Level3.net  0.0%23
 342.5 343.1 342.1 353.3   2.2
22. eth5-4.core1.ams1.nl.as5580.net 0.0%23
 342.1 342.6 342.0 344.4   0.6
23. eth4-1.r1.dus1.de.as5580.net0.0%23
 345.6 346.4 341.4 355.4   4.6
24. 78.152.56.135   9.1%23
 346.5 347.0 345.5 351.3   1.4
25. te-2-1-800.bbr-dtm-01.de.infra.rrbone.net   0.0%23
 349.5 348.4 347.5 349.5   0.6
26. ???
27. xe-3-2.r02.dsdfge01.de.bb.gin.ntt.net   0.0%23
 347.7 348.3 347.3 349.2   0.6
28. xe-0-1-0-20.r02.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net  4.3%23
 348.6 348.7 347.5 349.5   0.5
29. 129.250.9.500.0%23
 354.3 354.4 353.6 355.3   0.5
30. sl-bb21-ams-.sprintlink.net 4.5%23
 356.5 356.2 355.3 357.3   0.6



On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Ken Chase m...@sizone.org wrote:

 im hitting 30 hops tracing from one location, and 30 from some EC2s.
 another shows

  4. v638.core1.tor1.he.net
  5. 100ge1-2.core1.nyc4.he.net
  6. 100ge7-2.core1.lon2.he.net
  7. 100ge3-2.core1.ams1.he.net
  8. 100ge5-1.core1.fra1.he.net
  9. rrbone.dus.ecix.net
 10. te-2-1-800.bbr-dtm-01.de.infra.rrbone.net
 11. ???
 12. xe-3-2.r02.dsdfge01.de.bb.gin.ntt.net
 13. xe-0-1-0-20.r02.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net
 14. 129.250.9.50
 15. sl-bb21-ams-.sprintlink.net
 16. sl-crs2-lon-0-8-3-0.sprintlink.net
 17. sl-crs2-lon-.sprintlink.net
 18. sl-crs1-nyc-0-5-2-0.sprintlink.net
 19. 144.232.5.216
 20. 144.232.18.59
 21. 144.232.1.73
 22. 144.232.11.17
 23. 144.232.12.41
 24. 144.232.7.124
 25. sl-st20-sj-0-0-0.sprintlink.net
 26. sl-china6-192107-0.sprintlink.net
 27. 219.158.32.174
 28. 175.45.177.217
 29. ???

 with some 1/2 ping times by the end. that's quite the trip around the
 world,
 hitting nyc twice. (no hesprintlink peering?)

 /kc


 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:41:07PM -0500, Javier J said:
   Name:   thepiratebay.se
   Address: 194.71.107.27
   
   Its reachable from some places and not others.
   
   Is it being filtered?
   
   Is it being hijacked?
   
   Email to them bounced from google apps.
   
   Are we now officially living in a police state?
   
   mtr dies at hop 2 for me:
   
   2. l100.nwrknj-vfttp-134.verizon-gni.net  ( 173.70.26.1 )
   
   Is verizon now censoring the internet for me?

 --
 Ken Chase - m...@sizone.org Toronto



Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Dominik Bay
On 11/26/2014 06:41 PM, Javier J wrote:
 Its reachable from some places and not others.

Maybe a partial outage.


Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Alistair Mackenzie
They do some wacky routing with internal IP addresses and AS prepending to
make it seem like that they see hosted in Korea.

I have no idea why anyone would but they do.
On 26 Nov 2014 17:54, Ken Chase m...@sizone.org wrote:

 im hitting 30 hops tracing from one location, and 30 from some EC2s.
 another shows

  4. v638.core1.tor1.he.net
  5. 100ge1-2.core1.nyc4.he.net
  6. 100ge7-2.core1.lon2.he.net
  7. 100ge3-2.core1.ams1.he.net
  8. 100ge5-1.core1.fra1.he.net
  9. rrbone.dus.ecix.net
 10. te-2-1-800.bbr-dtm-01.de.infra.rrbone.net
 11. ???
 12. xe-3-2.r02.dsdfge01.de.bb.gin.ntt.net
 13. xe-0-1-0-20.r02.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net
 14. 129.250.9.50
 15. sl-bb21-ams-.sprintlink.net
 16. sl-crs2-lon-0-8-3-0.sprintlink.net
 17. sl-crs2-lon-.sprintlink.net
 18. sl-crs1-nyc-0-5-2-0.sprintlink.net
 19. 144.232.5.216
 20. 144.232.18.59
 21. 144.232.1.73
 22. 144.232.11.17
 23. 144.232.12.41
 24. 144.232.7.124
 25. sl-st20-sj-0-0-0.sprintlink.net
 26. sl-china6-192107-0.sprintlink.net
 27. 219.158.32.174
 28. 175.45.177.217
 29. ???

 with some 1/2 ping times by the end. that's quite the trip around the
 world,
 hitting nyc twice. (no hesprintlink peering?)

 /kc


 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:41:07PM -0500, Javier J said:
   Name:   thepiratebay.se
   Address: 194.71.107.27
   
   Its reachable from some places and not others.
   
   Is it being filtered?
   
   Is it being hijacked?
   
   Email to them bounced from google apps.
   
   Are we now officially living in a police state?
   
   mtr dies at hop 2 for me:
   
   2. l100.nwrknj-vfttp-134.verizon-gni.net  ( 173.70.26.1 )
   
   Is verizon now censoring the internet for me?

 --
 Ken Chase - m...@sizone.org Toronto



Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Joly MacFie
Failing for me from NYC FiOS

http://traceroute.monitis.com/index.jsp?url=thepiratebay.setestId=545087





 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:41:07PM -0500, Javier J said:
   Name:   thepiratebay.se
   Address: 194.71.107.27
   
   Its reachable from some places and not others.
   
   Is it being filtered?
   
   Is it being hijacked?
   
   Email to them bounced from google apps.
   
   Are we now officially living in a police state?
   
   mtr dies at hop 2 for me:
   
   2. l100.nwrknj-vfttp-134.verizon-gni.net  ( 173.70.26.1 )
   
   Is verizon now censoring the internet for me?

 --
 Ken Chase - m...@sizone.org Toronto




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RE: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Aaron D. Osgood
Perhaps it has something to do with Verizon' huge fiber cut in LA? Vandalism
this morning


Aaron D. Osgood

Streamline Solutions L.L.C

274 E. Eau Gallie Blvd. #336
Indian Harbour Beach, FL 32937

TEL: 207-518-8455
MOBILE: 207-831-5829
GTalk: aaron.osgood
aosg...@streamline-solutions.net
www.Streamline-Solutions.net
www.WMDaWARe.com


Introducing Efficiency to Business since 1986 


-Original Message-
From: NANOG
[mailto:nanog-bounces+aosgood=streamline-solutions@nanog.org] On Behalf
Of TR Shaw
Sent: November 26, 2014 12:50
To: Josh Luthman
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

From FL I die at

xe-3-2.r02.dsdfge01.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.174)  172.519 ms  155.386
ms  187.235 ms

On Nov 26, 2014, at 12:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Works for me
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us
 wrote:
 
 Name:   thepiratebay.se
 Address: 194.71.107.27
 
 Its reachable from some places and not others.
 
 Is it being filtered?
 
 Is it being hijacked?
 
 Email to them bounced from google apps.
 
 Are we now officially living in a police state?
 
 mtr dies at hop 2 for me:
 
 2. l100.nwrknj-vfttp-134.verizon-gni.net  ( 173.70.26.1 )
 
 Is verizon now censoring the internet for me?
 




Re: Buying IP Bandwidth Across a Peering Exchange

2014-11-26 Thread Rob Seastrom

Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com writes:

 Some might ask why not get a cross connect to the provider. It is cheaper
 to buy an port on the exchange (which includes the cross connect to the
 exchange) than buy multiple cross connects. Plus we are planning on getting
 a wave to the exchange, and not having any physical routers or switches at
 the datacenter where the exchange/wave terminates at. Is this possible?

Technically possible and advisable are two different things.  If
you enjoy finger-pointing on the occasions where you are trying to
smoke out performance issues, I encourage as many third, fourth, and
fifth-party-managed network layers in the mix as possible.  A wave
with no way to test to the handoff point would of course be the icing
on the cake.

Are you sure you can't afford to sublet a few ru of space from someone
and pay for a couple extra cross connects?

-r



Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Javier J
I heard about that vandalism. Can anyone confirm that is the issue? But I
am in the NY area so why would traffic destined to Europe go to LA?

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Aaron D. Osgood 
aosg...@streamline-solutions.net wrote:

 Perhaps it has something to do with Verizon' huge fiber cut in LA?
 Vandalism
 this morning


 Aaron D. Osgood

 Streamline Solutions L.L.C

 274 E. Eau Gallie Blvd. #336
 Indian Harbour Beach, FL 32937

 TEL: 207-518-8455
 MOBILE: 207-831-5829
 GTalk: aaron.osgood
 aosg...@streamline-solutions.net
 www.Streamline-Solutions.net
 www.WMDaWARe.com


 Introducing Efficiency to Business since 1986


 -Original Message-
 From: NANOG
 [mailto:nanog-bounces+aosgood=streamline-solutions@nanog.org] On
 Behalf
 Of TR Shaw
 Sent: November 26, 2014 12:50
 To: Josh Luthman
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

 From FL I die at

 xe-3-2.r02.dsdfge01.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.174)  172.519 ms  155.386
 ms  187.235 ms

 On Nov 26, 2014, at 12:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

  Works for me
 
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us
  wrote:
 
  Name:   thepiratebay.se
  Address: 194.71.107.27
 
  Its reachable from some places and not others.
 
  Is it being filtered?
 
  Is it being hijacked?
 
  Email to them bounced from google apps.
 
  Are we now officially living in a police state?
 
  mtr dies at hop 2 for me:
 
  2. l100.nwrknj-vfttp-134.verizon-gni.net  ( 173.70.26.1 )
 
  Is verizon now censoring the internet for me?
 





Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Javier J
I confirmed It is also blocked for Comcast users. Even Comcast business
users. This is starting to look like censorship to me.

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us
wrote:

 I heard about that vandalism. Can anyone confirm that is the issue? But I
 am in the NY area so why would traffic destined to Europe go to LA?

 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Aaron D. Osgood 
 aosg...@streamline-solutions.net wrote:

 Perhaps it has something to do with Verizon' huge fiber cut in LA?
 Vandalism
 this morning


 Aaron D. Osgood

 Streamline Solutions L.L.C

 274 E. Eau Gallie Blvd. #336
 Indian Harbour Beach, FL 32937

 TEL: 207-518-8455
 MOBILE: 207-831-5829
 GTalk: aaron.osgood
 aosg...@streamline-solutions.net
 www.Streamline-Solutions.net
 www.WMDaWARe.com


 Introducing Efficiency to Business since 1986


 -Original Message-
 From: NANOG
 [mailto:nanog-bounces+aosgood=streamline-solutions@nanog.org] On
 Behalf
 Of TR Shaw
 Sent: November 26, 2014 12:50
 To: Josh Luthman
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

 From FL I die at

 xe-3-2.r02.dsdfge01.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.174)  172.519 ms
 155.386
 ms  187.235 ms

 On Nov 26, 2014, at 12:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

  Works for me
 
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us
  wrote:
 
  Name:   thepiratebay.se
  Address: 194.71.107.27
 
  Its reachable from some places and not others.
 
  Is it being filtered?
 
  Is it being hijacked?
 
  Email to them bounced from google apps.
 
  Are we now officially living in a police state?
 
  mtr dies at hop 2 for me:
 
  2. l100.nwrknj-vfttp-134.verizon-gni.net  ( 173.70.26.1 )
 
  Is verizon now censoring the internet for me?
 






RE: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread eric-list
Javier,

I can't get to www.rrbone.net, an upstream provider to the IP I was given for 
thepiratebay.se.
I tested on VZ FiOS and Wireless in Philadelphia area and both die within the 
VZ network.

For Comcast, it looks like the space isn't showing up in the BGP table:
route-server.newyork.ny.iboneshow ip bgp 194.71.107.27
% Network not in table

No clue what the cause is, but it bigger than just the PirateBay.

Sincerely,

Eric Tykwinski
TrueNet, Inc.
P: 610-429-8300
F: 610-429-3222


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Javier J
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:44 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

I confirmed It is also blocked for Comcast users. Even Comcast business users. 
This is starting to look like censorship to me.




Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread courtneysmith
Only one of their /24's is in TATA's(AS6453) table.

http://bgp.he.net/AS51040#_prefixes


http://lg.as6453.net

Router: gin-aeq-tcore1
Site: US, Ashburn, AEQ
Command: show route protocol bgp 194.71.107.0/24 terse exact


{master}


Router: gin-aeq-tcore1
Site: US, Ashburn, AEQ
Command: show route protocol bgp 194.14.56.0/24 terse exact


inet.0: 520187 destinations, 3597636 routes (519993 active, 9 holddown, 1053 
hidden)
Restart Complete
+ = Active Route, - = Last Active, * = Both

A V DestinationP Prf   Metric 1   Metric 2  Next hopAS path
* ? 194.14.56.0/24 B  197595 51040 I
  unverified   216.6.87.1
  ?B  197595 51040 I
  unverified   216.6.87.1
  ?B  197595 51040 I
  unverified   216.6.87.1
  ?B 1239 1257 
197595 51040 I
  unverified   144.232.7.61

{master}






On 11/26/14, 2:01 PM,  eric-l...@truenet.com   eric-l...@truenet.com  
wrote: 


Javier, 


I can't get to www.rrbone.net, an upstream provider to the IP I was given for 
thepiratebay.se. 
I tested on VZ FiOS and Wireless in Philadelphia area and both die within the 
VZ network. 


For Comcast, it looks like the space isn't showing up in the BGP table: 
route-server.newyork.ny.iboneshow ip bgp 194.71.107.27 
% Network not in table 


No clue what the cause is, but it bigger than just the PirateBay. 


Sincerely, 


Eric Tykwinski 
TrueNet, Inc. 
P: 610-429-8300 
F: 610-429-3222 




-Original Message- 
From: NANOG [ mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org ] On Behalf Of Javier J 
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:44 PM 
To: nanog@nanog.org 
Subject: Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138 


I confirmed It is also blocked for Comcast users. Even Comcast business users. 
This is starting to look like censorship to me. 


Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Javier J
I can get to www.rrbone.net via ipv6 (HE.net tunnel) but on ipv4, it dies
on hop 2, same as thepiratebay.se on Verizon Fios.

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:01 PM, eric-l...@truenet.com wrote:

 Javier,

 I can't get to www.rrbone.net, an upstream provider to the IP I was given
 for thepiratebay.se.
 I tested on VZ FiOS and Wireless in Philadelphia area and both die within
 the VZ network.

 For Comcast, it looks like the space isn't showing up in the BGP table:
 route-server.newyork.ny.iboneshow ip bgp 194.71.107.27
 % Network not in table

 No clue what the cause is, but it bigger than just the PirateBay.

 Sincerely,

 Eric Tykwinski
 TrueNet, Inc.
 P: 610-429-8300
 F: 610-429-3222


 -Original Message-
 From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Javier J
 Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:44 PM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

 I confirmed It is also blocked for Comcast users. Even Comcast business
 users. This is starting to look like censorship to me.





Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Michael Hallgren
Le 26/11/2014 18:51, Dominik Bay a écrit :
 On 11/26/2014 06:41 PM, Javier J wrote:
 Its reachable from some places and not others.
 Maybe a partial outage.
From France:

mh@home:~$ mtr --report thepiratebay.org
Start: Wed Nov 26 23:09:31 2014
HOST: homeLoss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1.|-- 192.168.0.254  0.0%100.3   0.3   0.3   0.4   0.0
/snip
 29.|-- sl-st20-sj-0-0-0.sprintli 10.0%10  215.3 216.2 213.1 219.6   2.3
 30.|-- sl-china6-192107-0.sprint 10.0%10  455.9 461.0 455.9 464.5   3.0
mh@home:~$ 

Cheers,

mh




Re: Seeking IPv6 Security Resources

2014-11-26 Thread Joe Klein
Chris,

Are you aware IPv6 has 3 or arguably 4 major generations of standards?

Each generation requires nuanced defense strategies, based on which clauses
(must and should) were implemented. Some of the derived security works,
do not reflect, and in some cases contradict current security
recommendations. The perceived newness of the technology, and ambiguities
of recommendations have resulted in 'pushback' by the security community to
implement IPv6. This has forced us to continue with the implement of IPv6
and 'trust' the vender recommendations, based on the limitations of that
venders products.

In the cracks, between the standards and implementation of these standards,
are where security vulnerabilities exist, compromises lay, and defenses
crumble.

Joe Klein
Inveniam viam aut faciam

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Chris Grundemann cgrundem...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hail NANOG!

 I am looking for IPv6 security resources to add to:
 http://www.internetsociety.org/deploy360/ipv6/security/

 These could be best current practice documents, case-studies,
 lessons-learned/issues-found, research/evaluations, RFCs, or anything else
 focused on IPv6 security really.

 I'm not requesting that anyone do any new work, just that you point me to
 solid public documents that already exist. Feel free to share on-list or
 privately, both documents you may have authored and those you have found
 helpful.

 Thanks!
 ~Chris

 Note: Not every document shared will get posted to the Deploy360 site.

 --
 @ChrisGrundemann
 http://chrisgrundemann.com



Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Tim Burke
Reachable from 32748.

tim-macbookair:~ tim$ curl -I thepiratebay.se | head -n 2
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: nginx/1.6.0

tim-macbookair:~ tim$ traceroute thepiratebay.se
traceroute to thepiratebay.se (194.71.107.27), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  ip253 (208.100.33.253)  4.519 ms  3.744 ms  7.527 ms
 2  xe-0-0-1.core4.chi02.steadfast.net (208.100.32.54)  4.327 ms  3.609 ms 
 4.261 ms
 3  equinix-chicago.r1.chi1.us.as5580.net (206.223.119.45)  1.949 ms  
2.118 ms  2.739 ms
 4  eth1-4.core1.nyc1.us.as5580.net (78.152.34.149)  27.405 ms  29.265 ms  
27.324 ms
 5  eth1-5.core1.lon1.uk.as5580.net (78.152.44.134)  112.885 ms  111.443 
ms  115.038 ms
 6  eth13-1.core1.ams2.nl.as5580.net (78.152.44.239)  117.769 ms  117.290 
ms  117.682 ms
 7  eth1-7.core1.ams1.nl.as5580.net (78.152.34.13)  119.281 ms  117.476 ms 
 119.076 ms
 8  eth4-1.r1.dus1.de.as5580.net (78.152.35.81)  127.028 ms  129.374 ms  
121.328 ms
 9  78.152.56.135 (78.152.56.135)  120.359 ms  120.729 ms  122.419 ms
10  te-2-1-800.bbr-dtm-01.de.infra.rrbone.net (31.172.1.10)  125.505 ms  
126.621 ms  124.002 ms
11  * * *
12  xe-3-2.r02.dsdfge01.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.174)  128.702 ms  
123.925 ms  124.836 ms
13  xe-0-1-0-20.r02.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.64)  128.228 ms  
128.397 ms  127.411 ms
14  129.250.9.50 (129.250.9.50)  129.909 ms  129.704 ms  129.277 ms
15  sl-bb21-ams-.sprintlink.net (217.149.32.206)  131.034 ms  128.477 ms  
134.101 ms
16  sl-crs2-lon-0-8-3-0.sprintlink.net (213.206.129.143)  141.237 ms  
144.952 ms  140.634 ms
17  sl-crs2-lon-.sprintlink.net (213.206.128.184)  143.750 ms  143.616 ms *
18  sl-crs1-nyc-0-5-2-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.9.163)  203.638 ms  
203.826 ms  201.930 ms
19  144.232.5.216 (144.232.5.216)  289.414 ms  226.218 ms  223.651 ms
20  144.232.18.59 (144.232.18.59)  225.157 ms  225.886 ms  241.369 ms
21  144.232.1.73 (144.232.1.73)  303.248 ms *  432.785 ms
22  144.232.11.17 (144.232.11.17)  272.401 ms  434.872 ms  269.220 ms
23  * * *
24  *^C



On 11/26/14, 5:41 PM, Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us wrote:

Name:   thepiratebay.se
Address: 194.71.107.27

Its reachable from some places and not others.

Is it being filtered?

Is it being hijacked?

Email to them bounced from google apps.

Are we now officially living in a police state?

mtr dies at hop 2 for me:

2. l100.nwrknj-vfttp-134.verizon-gni.net  ( 173.70.26.1 )

Is verizon now censoring the internet for me?


Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Jay Farrell
Network unreachable from Vz DSL in Philly:

$ traceroute 194.71.107.27

traceroute to 194.71.107.27 (194.71.107.27), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets

 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  1.064 ms  0.709 ms  0.699 ms

 2  10.7.120.1 (10.7.120.1)  24.135 ms  24.033 ms  23.911 ms

 3  g0-5-4-2.phlapa-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.196.51)  27.534 ms !N *
28.486 ms !N

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Tim Burke t...@tburke.us wrote:

 Reachable from 32748.

 tim-macbookair:~ tim$ curl -I thepiratebay.se | head -n 2
 HTTP/1.1 200 OK
 Server: nginx/1.6.0

 tim-macbookair:~ tim$ traceroute thepiratebay.se
 traceroute to thepiratebay.se (194.71.107.27), 64 hops max, 52 byte
 packets
  1  ip253 (208.100.33.253)  4.519 ms  3.744 ms  7.527 ms
  2  xe-0-0-1.core4.chi02.steadfast.net (208.100.32.54)  4.327 ms  3.609 ms
  4.261 ms
  3  equinix-chicago.r1.chi1.us.as5580.net (206.223.119.45)  1.949 ms
 2.118 ms  2.739 ms
  4  eth1-4.core1.nyc1.us.as5580.net (78.152.34.149)  27.405 ms  29.265 ms
 27.324 ms
  5  eth1-5.core1.lon1.uk.as5580.net (78.152.44.134)  112.885 ms  111.443
 ms  115.038 ms
  6  eth13-1.core1.ams2.nl.as5580.net (78.152.44.239)  117.769 ms  117.290
 ms  117.682 ms
  7  eth1-7.core1.ams1.nl.as5580.net (78.152.34.13)  119.281 ms  117.476 ms
  119.076 ms
  8  eth4-1.r1.dus1.de.as5580.net (78.152.35.81)  127.028 ms  129.374 ms
 121.328 ms
  9  78.152.56.135 (78.152.56.135)  120.359 ms  120.729 ms  122.419 ms
 10  te-2-1-800.bbr-dtm-01.de.infra.rrbone.net (31.172.1.10)  125.505 ms
 126.621 ms  124.002 ms
 11  * * *
 12  xe-3-2.r02.dsdfge01.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.174)  128.702 ms
 123.925 ms  124.836 ms
 13  xe-0-1-0-20.r02.amstnl02.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.64)  128.228 ms
 128.397 ms  127.411 ms
 14  129.250.9.50 (129.250.9.50)  129.909 ms  129.704 ms  129.277 ms
 15  sl-bb21-ams-.sprintlink.net (217.149.32.206)  131.034 ms  128.477 ms
 134.101 ms
 16  sl-crs2-lon-0-8-3-0.sprintlink.net (213.206.129.143)  141.237 ms
 144.952 ms  140.634 ms
 17  sl-crs2-lon-.sprintlink.net (213.206.128.184)  143.750 ms  143.616 ms
 *
 18  sl-crs1-nyc-0-5-2-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.9.163)  203.638 ms
 203.826 ms  201.930 ms
 19  144.232.5.216 (144.232.5.216)  289.414 ms  226.218 ms  223.651 ms
 20  144.232.18.59 (144.232.18.59)  225.157 ms  225.886 ms  241.369 ms
 21  144.232.1.73 (144.232.1.73)  303.248 ms *  432.785 ms
 22  144.232.11.17 (144.232.11.17)  272.401 ms  434.872 ms  269.220 ms
 23  * * *
 24  *^C



 On 11/26/14, 5:41 PM, Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us wrote:

 Name:   thepiratebay.se
 Address: 194.71.107.27
 
 Its reachable from some places and not others.
 
 Is it being filtered?
 
 Is it being hijacked?
 
 Email to them bounced from google apps.
 
 Are we now officially living in a police state?
 
 mtr dies at hop 2 for me:
 
 2. l100.nwrknj-vfttp-134.verizon-gni.net  ( 173.70.26.1 )
 
 Is verizon now censoring the internet for me?



Re: Seeking IPv6 Security Resources

2014-11-26 Thread Enno Rey
Hi,

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 08:54:07AM -0500, Joe Klein wrote:
 Chris,
 
 Are you aware IPv6 has 3 or arguably 4 major generations of standards?
 
 Each generation requires nuanced defense strategies, based on which clauses
 (must and should) were implemented. Some of the derived security works,
 do not reflect, and in some cases contradict current security
 recommendations.

both very good points, Joe, which I fully second.
This is - to some degree - discussed in this talk:
https://www.ernw.de/download/TROOPERS_IPv6SecSummit_ERNW_IPv6_Structural_Deficits.pdf

which I suggest to add to the resource list in compilation.
[disclaimer: I'm the author]

best

Enno






 The perceived newness of the technology, and ambiguities
 of recommendations have resulted in 'pushback' by the security community to
 implement IPv6. This has forced us to continue with the implement of IPv6
 and 'trust' the vender recommendations, based on the limitations of that
 venders products.
 
 In the cracks, between the standards and implementation of these standards,
 are where security vulnerabilities exist, compromises lay, and defenses
 crumble.
 
 Joe Klein
 Inveniam viam aut faciam
 
 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Chris Grundemann cgrundem...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hail NANOG!
 
  I am looking for IPv6 security resources to add to:
  http://www.internetsociety.org/deploy360/ipv6/security/
 
  These could be best current practice documents, case-studies,
  lessons-learned/issues-found, research/evaluations, RFCs, or anything else
  focused on IPv6 security really.
 
  I'm not requesting that anyone do any new work, just that you point me to
  solid public documents that already exist. Feel free to share on-list or
  privately, both documents you may have authored and those you have found
  helpful.
 
  Thanks!
  ~Chris
 
  Note: Not every document shared will get posted to the Deploy360 site.
 
  --
  @ChrisGrundemann
  http://chrisgrundemann.com
 

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Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Courtney Smith
I just posted TATA as a single example.  This route is missing from multiple 
networks.  I could not find the specific /24 on, Sprint(1239) ATT(7018) and 
Centurylink either.

rvi...@route-server.ip.att.net show route 194.71.107.0/24 

rvi...@route-server.ip.att.net 

from https://www.sprint.net/lg/lg_start.php

Query Results:


Sprint Source Region: New York, NY (sl-gw27-nyc)
Performing: Show Route
% Network not in table
Completed - Wed Nov 26 21:11:51 EST 2014




Basic troubleshooting of your two example ASN's.  Notice the community 174:991 
on the Cogent path?  Go look that up in Cogent's community guide.  Level3's 
looking glass actually does the translation of communities for you.  I'm not 
going to try to map out all the possible paths this prefix could be reach.  At 
the moment, the /24 is not reachable from several networks.  Either an outage 
or a change at AS51040 or  their upstreams has caused the traffic engineering 
of one of the networks upstream of 51040 to break connectivity for a group of 
networks.

from http://www.cogentco.com/en/network/looking-glass

BGP routing table entry for 194.71.107.0/24, version 2977032097
Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
  5580 39138 22351 2.207 51040
38.104.73.58 (metric 10111041) from 154.54.66.76 (154.54.66.76)
  Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 130, valid, internal, best
  Community: 174:991 174:10004 174:20999 174:21001 174:22013
  Originator: 66.28.1.248, Cluster list: 154.54.66.76, 66.28.1.69, 
66.28.1.103, 66.28.1.9, 154.54.66.49

Route results for 194.71.107.0/24 from Atlanta, GA

BGP routing table entry for 194.71.107.0/24
Paths: (2 available, best #1)
  5580 39138 22351 23456 51040
  AS-path translation: { ATRATO-IP OPENAP-WIRELESS-NETWORKS-AS INTELSAT AS23456 
PIRATE-AS }
ear1.Atlanta2 (metric 2)
  Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, internal, best
  Community: North_America  Lclprf_100 Level3_Customer United_States 
Atlanta Level3:10074 5580:25215 Suppress_to_Peers
  Originator: ear1.Atlanta2
  5580 39138 22351 23456 51040
  AS-path translation: { ATRATO-IP OPENAP-WIRELESS-NETWORKS-AS INTELSAT AS23456 
PIRATE-AS }
ear1.Atlanta2 (metric 2)
  Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, internal
  Community: North_America  Lclprf_100 Level3_Customer United_States 
Atlanta Level3:10074 5580:25215 Suppress_to_Peers
  Originator: ear1.Atlanta2




On Nov 26, 2014, at 7:32 PM, Eric Tykwinski wrote:

 Courtney,
 
 No offense, and I can’t really verify Comcast’s network.  But Verizon peers 
 with the same ASNs I do 3356 and 174 which both have routes to thepiratebay’s 
 prefixes, and I can almost guarantee that Comcast has those routes within 
 your network.  What’s up really?  Just because TATA is  blocking routes 
 shouldn’t effect the whole internet, or this whole thing would have been 
 screwed a long time ago.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Eric Tykwinski
 TrueNet, Inc.
 P: 610-429-8300
 F: 610-429-3222
 
 On Nov 26, 2014, at 2:11 PM, courtneysm...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Only one of their /24's is in TATA's(AS6453) table.
 
 http://bgp.he.net/AS51040#_prefixes
 
 
 http://lg.as6453.net
 
 Router: gin-aeq-tcore1
 Site: US, Ashburn, AEQ
 Command: show route protocol bgp 194.71.107.0/24 terse exact
 
 
 {master}
 
 
 Router: gin-aeq-tcore1
 Site: US, Ashburn, AEQ
 Command: show route protocol bgp 194.14.56.0/24 terse exact
 
 
 inet.0: 520187 destinations, 3597636 routes (519993 active, 9 holddown, 1053 
 hidden)
 Restart Complete
 + = Active Route, - = Last Active, * = Both
 
 A V DestinationP Prf   Metric 1   Metric 2  Next hopAS path
 * ? 194.14.56.0/24 B  197595 
 51040 I
 unverified   216.6.87.1
 ?B  197595 51040 
 I
 unverified   216.6.87.1
 ?B  197595 51040 
 I
 unverified   216.6.87.1
 ?B 1239 1257 
 197595 51040 I
 unverified   144.232.7.61
 
 {master}
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 11/26/14, 2:01 PM,  eric-l...@truenet.com   eric-l...@truenet.com  
 wrote: 
 
 
 Javier, 
 
 
 I can't get to www.rrbone.net, an upstream provider to the IP I was given 
 for thepiratebay.se. 
 I tested on VZ FiOS and Wireless in Philadelphia area and both die within 
 the VZ network. 
 
 
 For Comcast, it looks like the space isn't showing up in the BGP table: 
 route-server.newyork.ny.iboneshow ip bgp 194.71.107.27 
 % Network not in table 
 
 
 No clue what the cause is, but it bigger than just the PirateBay. 
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 
 
 Eric Tykwinski 
 TrueNet, Inc. 
 P: 610-429-8300 
 F: 610-429-3222 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: NANOG [ mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org ] On Behalf Of Javier J 
 Sent: Wednesday, 

kohls.com issues

2014-11-26 Thread oz
Anyone know what’s up ? 

Looks like they are still working thru issues where I am. 

Not sure if their domain was hijacked or what exactly.

If someone has a list where this is already being discussed id appreciate that 
info.

Thanks,
Steve


RE: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Tony Wicks
No problem here in New Zealand

tonyw@vrhost1-w show route 194.71.107.0/24 

icore1-w.inet.0: 519451 destinations, 525214 routes (519437 active, 14
holddown, 0 hidden)
+ = Active Route, - = Last Active, * = Both

194.71.107.0/24*[BGP/170] 10:25:44, MED 0, localpref 90
  AS path: 4826 5580 39138 22351 131279 51040 I,
validation-state: unverified
 to 175.45.102.9 via ae1.526

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Courtney Smith
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2014 3:18 p.m.
To: Eric Tykwinski
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

I just posted TATA as a single example.  This route is missing from multiple
networks.  I could not find the specific /24 on, Sprint(1239) ATT(7018) and
Centurylink either.

rvi...@route-server.ip.att.net show route 194.71.107.0/24 

rvi...@route-server.ip.att.net 



Re: kohls.com issues

2014-11-26 Thread Grant Ridder
http://www.kohls.com/ comes up for me fine on the west coast.

-Grant

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 6:18 PM, o...@columbus.rr.com wrote:

 Anyone know what’s up ?

 Looks like they are still working thru issues where I am.

 Not sure if their domain was hijacked or what exactly.

 If someone has a list where this is already being discussed id appreciate
 that info.

 Thanks,
 Steve



Re: kohls.com issues

2014-11-26 Thread oz
Thanks - it's good now.  Just earlier seemed to be some issues.

http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/kohls.com.html

Guess it could have been a hosting issue.

From: Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us
Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 at 9:25 PM
To: Steven Parsons o...@columbus.rr.com
Subject: Re: kohls.com issues

Works for me on FIOS in the NYC area.

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 9:18 PM, o...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
Anyone know what’s up ?

Looks like they are still working thru issues where I am.

Not sure if their domain was hijacked or what exactly.

If someone has a list where this is already being discussed id appreciate that 
info.

Thanks,
Steve



Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Paul S.
No problem here in Los Angeles either, but seeing a lone route through 
Atrato only.


flags destination  gateway  lpref   med aspath origin
*194.71.107.0/24   100 0 3491 5580 39138 22351 2.207 
51040 i
* 194.71.107.0/24 100 0 174 5580 39138 22351 2.207 
51040 i



On 11/27/2014 午前 11:24, Tony Wicks wrote:

No problem here in New Zealand

tonyw@vrhost1-w show route 194.71.107.0/24

icore1-w.inet.0: 519451 destinations, 525214 routes (519437 active, 14
holddown, 0 hidden)
+ = Active Route, - = Last Active, * = Both

194.71.107.0/24*[BGP/170] 10:25:44, MED 0, localpref 90
   AS path: 4826 5580 39138 22351 131279 51040 I,
validation-state: unverified
  to 175.45.102.9 via ae1.526

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Courtney Smith
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2014 3:18 p.m.
To: Eric Tykwinski
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

I just posted TATA as a single example.  This route is missing from multiple
networks.  I could not find the specific /24 on, Sprint(1239) ATT(7018) and
Centurylink either.

rvi...@route-server.ip.att.net show route 194.71.107.0/24

rvi...@route-server.ip.att.net





Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Javier J
Paul, I think this is isolated to ISP providers in the US.

It seems this is affecting Comcast, ATT U-Verse and Verizon FIOS customers.

Here is some interesting info:

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskTechnology/comments/2ni118/is_att_uverse_blocking_the_pirate_bay/



On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Paul S. cont...@winterei.se wrote:

 No problem here in Los Angeles either, but seeing a lone route through
 Atrato only.

 flags destination  gateway  lpref   med aspath origin
 *194.71.107.0/24   100 0 3491 5580 39138 22351 2.207
 51040 i
 * 194.71.107.0/24 100 0 174 5580 39138 22351 2.207
 51040 i



 On 11/27/2014 午前 11:24, Tony Wicks wrote:

 No problem here in New Zealand

 tonyw@vrhost1-w show route 194.71.107.0/24

 icore1-w.inet.0: 519451 destinations, 525214 routes (519437 active, 14
 holddown, 0 hidden)
 + = Active Route, - = Last Active, * = Both

 194.71.107.0/24*[BGP/170] 10:25:44, MED 0, localpref 90
AS path: 4826 5580 39138 22351 131279 51040 I,
 validation-state: unverified
   to 175.45.102.9 via ae1.526

 -Original Message-
 From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Courtney Smith
 Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2014 3:18 p.m.
 To: Eric Tykwinski
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

 I just posted TATA as a single example.  This route is missing from
 multiple
 networks.  I could not find the specific /24 on, Sprint(1239) ATT(7018)
 and
 Centurylink either.

 rvi...@route-server.ip.att.net show route 194.71.107.0/24

 rvi...@route-server.ip.att.net





Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Courtney Smith


Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Courtney Smith


Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Courtney Smith

 No problem here in Los Angeles either, but seeing a lone route through Atrato 
 only.

 flags destination          gateway          lpref   med aspath origin
 *    194.71.107.0/24           100     0 3491 5580 39138 22351 2.207 51040 
 i
 *     194.71.107.0/24             100     0 174 5580 39138 22351 2.207 
 51040 i


 On 11/27/2014 午前 11:24, Tony Wicks wrote:

 No problem here in New Zealand

 tonyw@vrhost1-w show route 194.71.107.0/24

 icore1-w.inet.0: 519451 destinations, 525214 routes (519437 active, 14
 holddown, 0 hidden)
 + = Active Route, - = Last Active, * = Both

 194.71.107.0/24    *[BGP/170] 10:25:44, MED 0, localpref 90
                        AS path: 4826 5580 39138 22351 131279 51040 I,
 validation-state: unverified
                       to 175.45.102.9 via ae1.526


Hopefully the body cones thru this time.  The issue isn't city or country 
based.  In my last post I pointed out the do not announce to peers community 
AS5580 was sending to Cogent, Level3 and who knows who else.   So any ASN that 
is not a customer of Cogent or Level3 wont learn the 5580 path from them.

When I checked a few hours ago, Comcast, Centurylink, ATT, TATA, and possibly 
Sprint were not seeing the /24 based on their public looking glasses or route 
servers.  Have not had time to run bgplay  to see if routeviews data shows how 
they previously saw the /24 in past 30 days.   Finding the ASN(s) they used to 
see from would shed light on why they stopped seeing.   Checking bgplay and 
contacting AS51040 to reach out to their upstreams is my suggestion.

Re: Anyone else having trouble reaching thepiratebay.se? AS39138

2014-11-26 Thread Courtney Smith

 No problem here in Los Angeles either, but seeing a lone route through Atrato 
 only.

 flags destination          gateway          lpref   med aspath origin
 *    194.71.107.0/24           100     0 3491 5580 39138 22351 2.207 51040 
 i
 *     194.71.107.0/24             100     0 174 5580 39138 22351 2.207 
 51040 i


 On 11/27/2014 午前 11:24, Tony Wicks wrote:

 No problem here in New Zealand

 tonyw@vrhost1-w show route 194.71.107.0/24

 icore1-w.inet.0: 519451 destinations, 525214 routes (519437 active, 14
 holddown, 0 hidden)
 + = Active Route, - = Last Active, * = Both

 194.71.107.0/24    *[BGP/170] 10:25:44, MED 0, localpref 90
                        AS path: 4826 5580 39138 22351 131279 51040 I,
 validation-state: unverified
                       to 175.45.102.9 via ae1.526


Hopefully the body cones thru this time.  The issue isn't city or country 
based.  In my last post I pointed out the do not announce to peers community 
AS5580 was sending to Cogent, Level3 and who knows who else.   So any ASN that 
is not a customer of Cogent or Level3 wont learn the 5580 path from them.

When I checked a few hours ago, Comcast, Centurylink, ATT, TATA, and possibly 
Sprint were not seeing the /24 based on their public looking glasses or route 
servers.  Have not had time to run bgplay  to see if routeviews data shows how 
they previously saw the /24 in past 30 days.   Finding the ASN(s) they used to 
see from would shed light on why they stopped seeing.   Checking bgplay and 
contacting AS51040 to reach out to their upstreams is my suggestion.

Re: Seeking IPv6 Security Resources

2014-11-26 Thread Fernando Gont
Hi, Chris,

On 11/25/2014 05:32 PM, Chris Grundemann wrote:
 Hail NANOG!
 
 I am looking for IPv6 security resources to add to:
 http://www.internetsociety.org/deploy360/ipv6/security/

This is stuff that I've authored or that I've been involved in:


 Tools 

* (Open Source) IPv6 Security Toolkit:
http://www.si6networks.com/tools/ipv6toolkit/index.html


 Articles 

This site links all the articles that I've written so far:
http://www.si6networks.com/publications/articles.html.

They tend to cover stuff that I've covered in IETF RFCs, but in a more
synthetic and human-readable way.

Note while stuffed with some adds (Techtarget has to make money
somehow), the full content of the articles is online, without the
requirement of creating an account or anything just scroll down.


 IETF RFCs  Internet Drafts 

Most of what I've published at the IETF in the last few years is
IPv6-securty related. Please check:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search/?name=rfcs=onactivedrafts=onolddrafts=onsort=by=authorauthor=Gont

Of particular interest would be:

* draft-ietf-6man-ipv6-address-generation-privacy
* draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-host-scanning
* RFC6980
* RFC7112
* RFC7113
* RFC7123
* RFC7217
* RFC7359


 Presentations (slides  videos) 

* Slides: http://www.si6networks.com/presentations/index.html
(More to be uploaded soon... please re-check in a week or so)

* Videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/SI6Networks


 On-line communities 

* IPv6 Hackers mailing-list:
http://lists.si6networks.com/listinfo/ipv6hackers/

* IPv6 Hackers web site: http://www.ipv6hackers.org

This site includes the slideware (and videos) of the first (and so far
only) IPv6 hackers meeting in Berlin 2013.

Thanks!

Best regards,
-- 
Fernando Gont
e-mail: ferna...@gont.com.ar || fg...@si6networks.com
PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1