Re: [Nanog-futures] Final bylaws proposal

2010-10-01 Thread Sean Figgins
Maybe I am just picking nits, but why do we have the program committee 
definitions spread between section 9 (9.1) and section 10 (10.3.1 and 
10.3.2)?  Shouldn't it all be within 9.1, along with all the other 
committees?

I am also concerned with the consistency of the outline, but that IS 
just picking nits.

  -Sean

On 10/1/10 3:47 PM, Steve Gibbard wrote:
 The final bylaws that will be voted on in next week's election have been
 posted on the Newnog website.  They are available for review at:

 http://www.newnog.org/docs/newnog-bylaws.pdf

 There are a couple changes from the previous draft.  Due to time
 constraints, these changes are mine, not the Governance Working Group's.
 Sorry for the lack of community involvement.

 The previous draft was missing the section defining the corporate officer
 positions (except for a paragraph on the Executive Director). I moved the
 section over almost verbatum from the initial bylaws that Newnog's
 attorney had prepared.  The only change I made was to make the Executive
 Director section match what the Governance Working Group had agreed on.

 The other change was a minor revision to the Student Membership section,
 which was a last minute request by the Membership Working Group.  It
 allows somebody to go from being a student member to a regular member by
 becoming employed in the industry.

 -Steve

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Re: [Nanog-futures] Final bylaws proposal

2010-10-01 Thread Randy Bush
i started to read the bylaws draft, hit the 42 flavors of membership,
and decided to drop this note and do something more useful with my time.

it left out gold and platinum members, 100 meeting members, extra
legroom members, and dismembers.  why the hell is all this crap needed?

randy

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Re: [Nanog-futures] Final bylaws proposal

2010-10-01 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 10/1/10 9:46 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
 i started to read the bylaws draft, hit the 42 flavors of membership,
 and decided to drop this note and do something more useful with my time.
 
 it left out gold and platinum members, 100 meeting members, extra
 legroom members, and dismembers.  why the hell is all this crap needed?

you forgot honorary troll, distinguished troll and fellow troll.

my comment from 9/22 that at most there should be two membership states,
members and non still stands.

 randy
 
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Re: [Nanog-futures] Final bylaws proposal

2010-10-01 Thread Randy Bush
 you forgot honorary troll, distinguished troll and fellow troll.

my only excuse is tough night in the rack.  and zita-san says redheads
should get a class by themselves (sorry, ren).

 my comment from 9/22 that at most there should be two membership
 states, members and non still stands.

iff there is a membership fee, i can see a student discount.

randy

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Re: [Nanog-futures] Final bylaws proposal

2010-10-01 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 10/1/10 10:19 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
 you forgot honorary troll, distinguished troll and fellow troll.
 
 my only excuse is tough night in the rack.  and zita-san says redheads
 should get a class by themselves (sorry, ren).
 
 my comment from 9/22 that at most there should be two membership
 states, members and non still stands.
 
 iff there is a membership fee, i can see a student discount.

which is a question of fee schedule rather than status. I don't have a
safeway club card, they still take my money.

 randy
 


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