Re: [Nanog-futures] an alternate proposal for NewNOG?s membership structure

2010-12-16 Thread John Osmon
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 05:31:18PM -0800, Steve Feldman wrote:
 In order to jump-start the process of defining a membership structure  
 for NewNOG, I wrote an alternative proposal.  My goals were to keep it  
 as simple and short as possible, and address the concerns which came  
 up during the election and afterwards.
[...]

Steve:

Thanks for taking the time to put this out.  It aligns very well with
what I've been mulling in the back of my head.  It's short, simple, and
defines the important issues.  There may well be nits, but I think
you've hit the important points.


The only thoughts I would add:
The suggested policy discounts meeting registration fees for members.
While I think this is a fine idea, I'd been thinking that registering
for any meeting would include a year's membership -- modelling the
voting policy.

It wouldn't take a lot to convince me that the meeting discount is
a better idea -- but I did want to get the thought out.

Again -- thanks for being pro-active.

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Re: [Nanog-futures] an alternate proposal for NewNOG ’s membership structure

2010-12-16 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Satisfies all of my criticism with the previously proposed membership
structure.

joel

On 12/16/10 5:31 PM, Steve Feldman wrote:
 In order to jump-start the process of defining a membership structure  
 for NewNOG, I wrote an alternative proposal.  My goals were to keep it  
 as simple and short as possible, and address the concerns which came  
 up during the election and afterwards.
 
 There are two parts, a Bylaws amendment to set the framework, and a  
 policy document to set the specific rules.  The policy document would  
 be adopted by board resolution.  Both are appended below.
 
 Please read the proposal (it's short!) and comment.
 
 Thanks,
  Steve
 
 ==
 Bylaws amendment - Replace the current section 5 in its entirety with:
 
 5. Membership
 
 5.1 Membership Qualifications
 
 Membership in NewNOG is open to any individual with an interest in
 Internet operations, engineering, or research and who wishes to
 further education and knowledge sharing within the Internet operations
 community.
 
 Any individual may become a member of NewNOG by completing an
 application and payment of dues.
 
 5.2 Membership Classes
 
 There shall be only one class of membership, with all the rights
 and privileges specified in these Bylaws.
 
 5.3 Membership Dues
 
 The Board of Directors shall specify the cost of annual membership
 dues.  The Board may establish discounts for members meeting certain
 criteria, or for members wishing to pay for more than one year in
 advance.
 
 5.4 Rights and Benefits of Members
 
 Members in good standing shall be entitled to these privileges:
 
   * Vote in all NewNOG elections.
   * Run as a candidate for the Board of Directors
   * Serve on an administrative committee, as defined in section 9
   * Other privileges as specified by the Board of Directors
 
 5.5 Policies and Procedures
 
 The Board of Directors shall establish and publish policies and
 procedures for implementation of the membership program.
 
 ==
 
 Membership Policies and Procedures, to be adopted by Board resolution:
 
 1. Annual Dues
 
 1.1 Standard rate
 
 The standard annual dues is $100.
 
 1.2 Student discount
 
 Students enrolled in an undergraduate or graduate degree program
 at an accredited institution will receive a 50% discount for annual
 dues.  Proof of enrollment is required.  This may not be combined
 with any other discount.
 
 1.3 Multi-year discount
 
 Individuals who prepay three or more years of membership in advance
 will receive a 10% discount.  This may not be combined with any
 other discount.
 
 2. Membership Terms
 
 2.1 Start of membership
 
 The term of membership shall begin immediately upon receipt of the
 member's application and payment for dues.
 
 2.2 Expiration of membership
 
 2.2.1 New memberships
 
 For new members, the term of membership shall expire one year after
 the last day of the month during which the membership started,
 unless membership is renewed.
 
 2.2.2 Continuing memberships
 
 For continuing members, the term of membership shall expire one
 year after the previous expiration date, unless membership is
 renewed.
 
 2.3 Renewal
 
 A member may renew by submitting payment of the current dues amount
 before the expiration of the current membership term.  Members who
 have prepaid for more than one year in advance shall be automatically
 renewed for the additional years prepaid.
 
 3. Additional Benefits
 
 3.1 Meeting discount
 
 Members in good standing will receive a $25 discount for registration
 for any conference operated by NewNOG.  This may not be combined
 with any other discounts, including any discounts for students or
 early registration.
 
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Re: [Nanog-futures] an alternate proposal for NewNOG?s membership structure

2010-12-16 Thread Dorian Kim
This seems much more sensible than anything else I've seen in the past.

-dorian

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 05:31:18PM -0800, Steve Feldman wrote:
 In order to jump-start the process of defining a membership structure  
 for NewNOG, I wrote an alternative proposal.  My goals were to keep it  
 as simple and short as possible, and address the concerns which came  
 up during the election and afterwards.
 
 There are two parts, a Bylaws amendment to set the framework, and a  
 policy document to set the specific rules.  The policy document would  
 be adopted by board resolution.  Both are appended below.
 
 Please read the proposal (it's short!) and comment.
 
 Thanks,
  Steve
 
 ==
 Bylaws amendment - Replace the current section 5 in its entirety with:
 
 5. Membership
 
 5.1 Membership Qualifications
 
 Membership in NewNOG is open to any individual with an interest in
 Internet operations, engineering, or research and who wishes to
 further education and knowledge sharing within the Internet operations
 community.
 
 Any individual may become a member of NewNOG by completing an
 application and payment of dues.
 
 5.2 Membership Classes
 
 There shall be only one class of membership, with all the rights
 and privileges specified in these Bylaws.
 
 5.3 Membership Dues
 
 The Board of Directors shall specify the cost of annual membership
 dues.  The Board may establish discounts for members meeting certain
 criteria, or for members wishing to pay for more than one year in
 advance.
 
 5.4 Rights and Benefits of Members
 
 Members in good standing shall be entitled to these privileges:
 
   * Vote in all NewNOG elections.
   * Run as a candidate for the Board of Directors
   * Serve on an administrative committee, as defined in section 9
   * Other privileges as specified by the Board of Directors
 
 5.5 Policies and Procedures
 
 The Board of Directors shall establish and publish policies and
 procedures for implementation of the membership program.
 
 ==
 
 Membership Policies and Procedures, to be adopted by Board resolution:
 
 1. Annual Dues
 
 1.1 Standard rate
 
 The standard annual dues is $100.
 
 1.2 Student discount
 
 Students enrolled in an undergraduate or graduate degree program
 at an accredited institution will receive a 50% discount for annual
 dues.  Proof of enrollment is required.  This may not be combined
 with any other discount.
 
 1.3 Multi-year discount
 
 Individuals who prepay three or more years of membership in advance
 will receive a 10% discount.  This may not be combined with any
 other discount.
 
 2. Membership Terms
 
 2.1 Start of membership
 
 The term of membership shall begin immediately upon receipt of the
 member's application and payment for dues.
 
 2.2 Expiration of membership
 
 2.2.1 New memberships
 
 For new members, the term of membership shall expire one year after
 the last day of the month during which the membership started,
 unless membership is renewed.
 
 2.2.2 Continuing memberships
 
 For continuing members, the term of membership shall expire one
 year after the previous expiration date, unless membership is
 renewed.
 
 2.3 Renewal
 
 A member may renew by submitting payment of the current dues amount
 before the expiration of the current membership term.  Members who
 have prepaid for more than one year in advance shall be automatically
 renewed for the additional years prepaid.
 
 3. Additional Benefits
 
 3.1 Meeting discount
 
 Members in good standing will receive a $25 discount for registration
 for any conference operated by NewNOG.  This may not be combined
 with any other discounts, including any discounts for students or
 early registration.
 
 ==
 
 
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Re: [Nanog-futures] an alternate proposal for NewNOG ’s membership structure

2010-12-16 Thread Kevin Oberman
Steve,

At last! Something that does not strike me as defective by design! Thank
you.

Based on the last financials I saw, I'd really like to see the discount
on meetings be something more than $25. That mean $0 for those of us who
register early. I would really hope that we can do better.
-- 
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: ober...@es.net  Phone: +1 510 486-8634
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 From: Steve Feldman feld...@twincreeks.net
 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:31:18 -0800
 
 In order to jump-start the process of defining a membership structure  
 for NewNOG, I wrote an alternative proposal.  My goals were to keep it  
 as simple and short as possible, and address the concerns which came  
 up during the election and afterwards.
 
 There are two parts, a Bylaws amendment to set the framework, and a  
 policy document to set the specific rules.  The policy document would  
 be adopted by board resolution.  Both are appended below.
 
 Please read the proposal (it's short!) and comment.
 
 Thanks,
  Steve
 
 ==
 Bylaws amendment - Replace the current section 5 in its entirety with:
 
 5. Membership
 
 5.1 Membership Qualifications
 
 Membership in NewNOG is open to any individual with an interest in
 Internet operations, engineering, or research and who wishes to
 further education and knowledge sharing within the Internet operations
 community.
 
 Any individual may become a member of NewNOG by completing an
 application and payment of dues.
 
 5.2 Membership Classes
 
 There shall be only one class of membership, with all the rights
 and privileges specified in these Bylaws.
 
 5.3 Membership Dues
 
 The Board of Directors shall specify the cost of annual membership
 dues.  The Board may establish discounts for members meeting certain
 criteria, or for members wishing to pay for more than one year in
 advance.
 
 5.4 Rights and Benefits of Members
 
 Members in good standing shall be entitled to these privileges:
 
   * Vote in all NewNOG elections.
   * Run as a candidate for the Board of Directors
   * Serve on an administrative committee, as defined in section 9
   * Other privileges as specified by the Board of Directors
 
 5.5 Policies and Procedures
 
 The Board of Directors shall establish and publish policies and
 procedures for implementation of the membership program.
 
 ==
 
 Membership Policies and Procedures, to be adopted by Board resolution:
 
 1. Annual Dues
 
 1.1 Standard rate
 
 The standard annual dues is $100.
 
 1.2 Student discount
 
 Students enrolled in an undergraduate or graduate degree program
 at an accredited institution will receive a 50% discount for annual
 dues.  Proof of enrollment is required.  This may not be combined
 with any other discount.
 
 1.3 Multi-year discount
 
 Individuals who prepay three or more years of membership in advance
 will receive a 10% discount.  This may not be combined with any
 other discount.
 
 2. Membership Terms
 
 2.1 Start of membership
 
 The term of membership shall begin immediately upon receipt of the
 member's application and payment for dues.
 
 2.2 Expiration of membership
 
 2.2.1 New memberships
 
 For new members, the term of membership shall expire one year after
 the last day of the month during which the membership started,
 unless membership is renewed.
 
 2.2.2 Continuing memberships
 
 For continuing members, the term of membership shall expire one
 year after the previous expiration date, unless membership is
 renewed.
 
 2.3 Renewal
 
 A member may renew by submitting payment of the current dues amount
 before the expiration of the current membership term.  Members who
 have prepaid for more than one year in advance shall be automatically
 renewed for the additional years prepaid.
 
 3. Additional Benefits
 
 3.1 Meeting discount
 
 Members in good standing will receive a $25 discount for registration
 for any conference operated by NewNOG.  This may not be combined
 with any other discounts, including any discounts for students or
 early registration.
 
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