Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Cool clock with 6 x Z568M + 6 spare tubes...

2014-09-05 Thread MichaelB
Yep, thought so, sir Nick.  Seems a shame to drive these beauties any any 
other way than direct drive. 

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 9:19:51 PM UTC-7, Pramanicin wrote:

 Yep, it's a multiplex design...

 http://www.nixieclocks.de/english/nixieclockkit/pcbversion108/index.php


 On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 6:41 PM, MichaelB badn...@badnixie.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Maybe I'm wrong, but aren't his electronics muxed?

 On Thursday, September 4, 2014 5:58:57 AM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

 http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/301302736983 - comes with 6 spare tubes for 
 12 x Z568M in total.

 Not my auction - nice clock with some neat features - I like the little 
 LCD with extra data.

 A bit solid for my personal tastes and the photos don't do it justice 
 - the lighting washes out the digits so the tubes look a bit bland, which 
 is unfortunate as they are amongst my favourites...

 Nick

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[neonixie-l] Re: Looking for documentation package for pete hands old FW-4 clock board

2014-09-05 Thread petehand
Sorry Michael, I don't remember seeing your email or I would have replied. 
I should put all the docs on a web site somewhere. I still have some PCBs 
if anyone wants one.

Pete


On Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:08:35 AM UTC-7, michael ohara wrote:

 I found an old FW-4 board but I don't have the instructions for it (which 
 switch does what, what kind of wall wart does it need?)
 Does anyone here have a copy of those files? I tried emailing pete hand at 
 the last address I had but haven't heard back.
 Many thanks for your assistance.

 (I bought some 7971s and plan on getting this working...)


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Looking for documentation package for pete hands old FW-4 clock board

2014-09-05 Thread Bob Oliver
What are you asking for the PCB's

On Sep 5, 2014 3:06 AM, petehand peteh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry Michael, I don't remember seeing your email or I would have
replied. I should put all the docs on a web site somewhere. I still have
some PCBs if anyone wants one.

 Pete


 On Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:08:35 AM UTC-7, michael ohara wrote:

 I found an old FW-4 board but I don't have the instructions for it
(which switch does what, what kind of wall wart does it need?)
 Does anyone here have a copy of those files? I tried emailing pete hand
at the last address I had but haven't heard back.
 Many thanks for your assistance.

 (I bought some 7971s and plan on getting this working...)

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Neon ring counter nixie clock

2014-09-05 Thread Joe Croft
Hi John,

Nixieneon is stil active. I probably have to check the email I have on the
site. I was also in Poland getting married through a big chunk of August,
but am back now.

-joe


On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:40 AM, electrofish john.johnath...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Does anyone know if NixieNeon Store
 http://www.nixieneon.com/perl/nxStoreFront.pl
 is still active?  Tried emailing but no response

 I would really like to build one of these clocks

 Thanks
 John

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[neonixie-l] Beckmann SP-101

2014-09-05 Thread BEKot
Anyone have pin out info for Beckmann SP-101? It is a one digit panaplex with 
21 pins. Thanks.

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[neonixie-l] Re: Cool clock with 6 x Z568M + 6 spare tubes...

2014-09-05 Thread GastonP
It is funny to verify yet again that that one man's trash is another's 
treasure...

I was just going to post that the LCD robbed much if not all of this 
clock's charm. :)

Gastón

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 9:58:57 AM UTC-3, Nick wrote:


 snip 

  I like the little LCD with extra data. 

/snip 


 Nick


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Cool clock with 6 x Z568M + 6 spare tubes...

2014-09-05 Thread gregebert


 Yep, thought so, sir Nick.  Seems a shame to drive these beauties any any 
 other way than direct drive. 


Judging by the photos on Ebay, which show rather dim digits, I would guess 
the tubes are multiplexed at their rated-current, which reduces brightness 
vs direct-drive.
I definitely would *not* boost the current to compensate for this; much 
safer to make a new clock with direct-drive.

Seems silly to me to save a few dollars by multiplexing when the tubes are 
so costly.


3500 euros.definitely not in my budget even if I were to sell the other 
6 tubes and attempt to justify it as a wedding-anniversary gift

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Cool clock with 6 x Z568M + 6 spare tubes...

2014-09-05 Thread MichaelB
Seems silly to me to save a few dollars by multiplexing when the tubes are 
so costly. My thoughts exactly!

On Friday, September 5, 2014 12:10:27 PM UTC-7, gregebert wrote:

 Yep, thought so, sir Nick.  Seems a shame to drive these beauties any any 
 other way than direct drive. 


 Judging by the photos on Ebay, which show rather dim digits, I would guess 
 the tubes are multiplexed at their rated-current, which reduces brightness 
 vs direct-drive.
 I definitely would *not* boost the current to compensate for this; much 
 safer to make a new clock with direct-drive.

 Seems silly to me to save a few dollars by multiplexing when the tubes are 
 so costly.


 3500 euros.definitely not in my budget even if I were to sell the 
 other 6 tubes and attempt to justify it as a wedding-anniversary gift


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Cool clock with 6 x Z568M + 6 spare tubes...

2014-09-05 Thread Wayne de Geere III
I was thinking of this as a buy for the tube value alone. Then give those tubes 
to Michael Barile who would make me a fantastic Barile/Thomas Nixisat derived 
clock or clocks with those tubes.

On Sep 5, 2014, at 12:38 PM, MichaelB badni...@badnixie.com wrote:

 Seems silly to me to save a few dollars by multiplexing when the tubes are 
 so costly. My thoughts exactly!
 
 On Friday, September 5, 2014 12:10:27 PM UTC-7, gregebert wrote:
 Yep, thought so, sir Nick.  Seems a shame to drive these beauties any any 
 other way than direct drive. 
 
 Judging by the photos on Ebay, which show rather dim digits, I would guess 
 the tubes are multiplexed at their rated-current, which reduces brightness vs 
 direct-drive.
 I definitely would not boost the current to compensate for this; much safer 
 to make a new clock with direct-drive.
 
 Seems silly to me to save a few dollars by multiplexing when the tubes are so 
 costly.
 
 
 3500 euros.definitely not in my budget even if I were to sell the other 6 
 tubes and attempt to justify it as a wedding-anniversary gift
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Cool clock with 6 x Z568M + 6 spare tubes...

2014-09-05 Thread David Forbes

On 9/4/14 12:22 PM, gregebert wrote:

I'm sure some nixie zealots might disagree with me here, but in my opinion
the cost vs. size math doesn't justify spending* that* much on a 50mm tube.
The IN-18 tubes are an impressive 40mm, for about 1/10 the cost.

Despite a few temptations, I have stayed away from digits larger than 20mm,
partly for cost reasons, but also because the large digits seem skinny 
dim compared to smaller tubes. It appears that cathodes are not made
'fatter' for larger tubes, probably because that would impair visibility of
other digits and they would also reflect more.

I see 'Fake Gigantic Nixies'  in my future.




I agree. I'm quite happy with my ZM1040 clock. It is a nice size for a 
standard living room. Plus, the tubes cost only $9 each back when I 
built it in 2002.


I remember people on the yahoo neonixie list giving me a hard time (for 
profiteering!?!) for reselling those tubes for $15 each after importing 
them from Switzerland. Tee hee!



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[neonixie-l] Re: Looking to trade for 6 IN-16s (or buy at a reasonable price)

2014-09-05 Thread michael ohara
Source located for the tubes, and thanks to the group member who supplied 
them!

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 8:49:50 PM UTC-7, michael ohara wrote:


 I thought I had 12 IN-16s when I ordered this clock board, but I can't 
 find the silly things.

 I do have a B7971 to trade and a ton of IN-14 tubes which I'd trade 3:1 
 for new or used tubes in good condition with spacers of the same color.

 Thanks


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