Re: [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Jeff,

That is still the going price.  There seems to be an endless supply of 
Z566M and IN-18's out there.



On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 7:17:52 PM UTC-4, Jeff Walton wrote:
>
> Last time I bought any, they were $45 each plus shipping.   Maybe he was 
> confused with Z568...  I guess if you put "rare" in the description the 
> price automatically goes up.  :) 
>
> Jeff 
>
>  Original message 
> From: Nicholas Stock > 
> Date: 5/12/19 5:58 PM (GMT-06:00) 
> To: neoni...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity 
>
> Clearly living his own reality...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On May 12, 2019, at 14:43, alex nolan  > wrote:
>
> For what it's worth, the seller countered my fair price offer with an 
> offer of $750.00, much more reasonable /s
>
> On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 10:14:45 AM UTC-4, Greg P wrote:
>>
>> Seller must have had a change of heart after all the chatter circling the 
>> web on this topic.  He's now lowered them to a much more affordable $950.00
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Z566M-VINTAGE-NIXIE-6pcs-Perfect-Working-NOT-Used-BEYOND-RARE/133047448056?hash=item1efa3ef1f8:g:uZkAAOSwsVtc1KpE
>>
>> I guess now they're just RARE and not BEYOND Rare.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 9:32:41 AM UTC-4, Pramanicin wrote:
>>>
>>> Ha ha hanice one Bill.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 10, 2019, at 06:30, Bill van Dijk  wrote:
>>>
>>> But you’ll earn $10 in Ebay bucks……. J
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* 'Greg P' via neonixie-l [mailto:n...@googlegroups.com] 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 09, 2019 8:16 PM
>>> *To:* neonixie-l 
>>> *Subject:* [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I want some of what this guy is drinking.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Z566M-VINTAGE-NIXIE-6pcs-Perfect-Working-NOT-Used-BEYOND-RARE/133047448056?hash=item1efa3ef1f8:g:uZkAAOSwsVtc1KpE
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> When the going price is $250-300 for a set of 6.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Silly thing is someone will probably pay it.
>>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Anode current and voltage measurement

[Bill Notfaded]

This is interesting to me because the current baffled me some.  I like how the 
Nixie tester/healer has the connections to hook up to MM to measure current and 
voltage.  To have this measured by the processor in the clock is neat idea.  I 
also like the idea of controllable current and voltage from software... That's 
true flexibility.

Bill

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Re: [neonixie-l] Anyone still make dekatron spinners or have any pcb's or kits?

[Bill Notfaded]

For what it's worth I've been trying to track totugascuba dekatron expert down 
but can't find him.  I emailed the tube only dekatron guy... Who's in here and 
haven't gotten anything back yet.  I even bought two of those weird GC12/4B-UN 
dekatrons if they make the clocks eventually...I had to go outside eBay because 
the only one was way too expensive:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GC12-4B-TUBE-CV5243-TUBE-ETL-BRAND-TUBE-DEKATRON-NOS-TUBE-RC13/142293960448?hash=item2121618700:g:54gAAOSwXYtYszrd


Bill

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Re: [neonixie-l] Hewlett Packard Power Cord

[martin martin]

I definitely want to see it in operation.
I’ll fire up the counter timer too!
M

On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 16:27 Mac Doktor  wrote:

> I promised a picture...
>
> On May 9, 2019, at 4:33 PM, Mac Doktor  wrote:
>
> I have a Systron Donner frequency counter with an integral cord that's
> 120V only. Some idiot chopped the ground pin off. With it plugged in and
> turned OFF I can feel a tingle when I touch the case. I measure 54V RMS
> from the case to ground.
>
> I asked a friend who's an EE about it and he told me that the EMI
> filtering contains resistors from both hot and neutral to ground. In his
> words, "Put a damn grounded plug on it!" I installed a new grounded plug
> and the tingle is gone. Zero volts from case to ground.
>
> I'll post some pictures of it later.
>
>
> And here it is:
>
>
>
> Up next: video of the counter in operation.
>
>
> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
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Re: [neonixie-l] Hewlett Packard Power Cord

[Mac Doktor]

I promised a picture...

> On May 9, 2019, at 4:33 PM, Mac Doktor  wrote:
> 
> I have a Systron Donner frequency counter with an integral cord that's 120V 
> only. Some idiot chopped the ground pin off. With it plugged in and turned 
> OFF I can feel a tingle when I touch the case. I measure 54V RMS from the 
> case to ground.
> 
> I asked a friend who's an EE about it and he told me that the EMI filtering 
> contains resistors from both hot and neutral to ground. In his words, "Put a 
> damn grounded plug on it!" I installed a new grounded plug and the tingle is 
> gone. Zero volts from case to ground.
> 
> I'll post some pictures of it later.

And here it is:




Up next: video of the counter in operation.


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Re: [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity

[Jeff Walton]

Last time I bought any, they were $45 each plus shipping.   Maybe he was 
confused with Z568...  I guess if you put "rare" in the description the price 
automatically goes up.  :) Jeff 
 Original message From: Nicholas Stock  
Date: 5/12/19  5:58 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: 
Re: [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity Clearly living his own reality...Sent from my 
iPhoneOn May 12, 2019, at 14:43, alex nolan  
wrote:For what it's worth, the seller countered my fair price offer with an 
offer of $750.00, much more reasonable /sOn Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 10:14:45 AM 
UTC-4, Greg P wrote:Seller must have had a change of heart after all the 
chatter circling the web on this topic.  He's now lowered them to a much more 
affordable 
$950.00https://www.ebay.com/itm/Z566M-VINTAGE-NIXIE-6pcs-Perfect-Working-NOT-Used-BEYOND-RARE/133047448056?hash=item1efa3ef1f8:g:uZkAAOSwsVtc1KpEI
 guess now they're just RARE and not BEYOND Rare.On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 
9:32:41 AM UTC-4, Pramanicin wrote:Ha ha hanice one Bill.Sent from my 
iPhoneOn May 10, 2019, at 06:30, Bill van Dijk  wrote:But 
you’ll earn $10 in Ebay bucks……. J From: 'Greg P' via neonixie-l 
[mailto:n...@googlegroups.com] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2019 8:16 PMTo: 
neonixie-l Subject: [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity I 
want some of what this guy is drinking. 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Z566M-VINTAGE-NIXIE-6pcs-Perfect-Working-NOT-Used-BEYOND-RARE/133047448056?hash=item1efa3ef1f8:g:uZkAAOSwsVtc1KpE
 When the going price is $250-300 for a set of 6. Silly thing is someone will 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity

[Nicholas Stock]

Clearly living his own reality...

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 12, 2019, at 14:43, alex nolan  wrote:
> 
> For what it's worth, the seller countered my fair price offer with an offer 
> of $750.00, much more reasonable /s
> 
>> On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 10:14:45 AM UTC-4, Greg P wrote:
>> Seller must have had a change of heart after all the chatter circling the 
>> web on this topic.  He's now lowered them to a much more affordable $950.00
>> 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Z566M-VINTAGE-NIXIE-6pcs-Perfect-Working-NOT-Used-BEYOND-RARE/133047448056?hash=item1efa3ef1f8:g:uZkAAOSwsVtc1KpE
>> 
>> I guess now they're just RARE and not BEYOND Rare.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 9:32:41 AM UTC-4, Pramanicin wrote:
>>> Ha ha hanice one Bill.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 10, 2019, at 06:30, Bill van Dijk  wrote:
 
 But you’ll earn $10 in Ebay bucks……. J
 
  
 
 From: 'Greg P' via neonixie-l [mailto:n...@googlegroups.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2019 8:16 PM
 To: neonixie-l 
 Subject: [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity
 
  
 
 I want some of what this guy is drinking.
 
  
 
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Z566M-VINTAGE-NIXIE-6pcs-Perfect-Working-NOT-Used-BEYOND-RARE/133047448056?hash=item1efa3ef1f8:g:uZkAAOSwsVtc1KpE
 
  
 
 When the going price is $250-300 for a set of 6.
 
  
 
 Silly thing is someone will probably pay it.
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Anode current and voltage measurement

[David Forbes]

You can measure cathode current much easier than anode current, and it's
the same thing. Tie all your cathode driver grounds together, and put a
small resistance between them and ground. Select the resistance so that it
has a bit less than one volt when operating.


On Sun, May 12, 2019, 5:28 AM Paul Andrews  wrote:

> I would like to be able to measure the anode voltage and current on one of
> my clocks and have a permanent display of those values built in to it. I
> came across this reference design at TI (
> http://www.ti.com/tool/tida-00528?jktype=design#technicaldocuments) but
> was wondering if anyone can point me at other possible solutions?
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Re: [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity

[alex nolan]

For what it's worth, the seller countered my fair price offer with an offer 
of $750.00, much more reasonable /s

On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 10:14:45 AM UTC-4, Greg P wrote:
>
> Seller must have had a change of heart after all the chatter circling the 
> web on this topic.  He's now lowered them to a much more affordable $950.00
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Z566M-VINTAGE-NIXIE-6pcs-Perfect-Working-NOT-Used-BEYOND-RARE/133047448056?hash=item1efa3ef1f8:g:uZkAAOSwsVtc1KpE
>
> I guess now they're just RARE and not BEYOND Rare.
>
>
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 9:32:41 AM UTC-4, Pramanicin wrote:
>>
>> Ha ha hanice one Bill.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 10, 2019, at 06:30, Bill van Dijk  wrote:
>>
>> But you’ll earn $10 in Ebay bucks……. J
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* 'Greg P' via neonixie-l [mailto:n...@googlegroups.com] 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 09, 2019 8:16 PM
>> *To:* neonixie-l 
>> *Subject:* [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity
>>
>>  
>>
>> I want some of what this guy is drinking.
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Z566M-VINTAGE-NIXIE-6pcs-Perfect-Working-NOT-Used-BEYOND-RARE/133047448056?hash=item1efa3ef1f8:g:uZkAAOSwsVtc1KpE
>>
>>  
>>
>> When the going price is $250-300 for a set of 6.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Silly thing is someone will probably pay it.
>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity

[Charles MacDonald]

On 2019-05-12 4:40 p.m., Robert L wrote:


At least this seller adds exclusive packaging!



which is shipped without an over-wrap will almost certainly NOT prevent 
breakage.



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Re: [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity

[【ツ】John Smout]

Was he selling the donkey also?

John S

> On 12 May 2019, at 22:08, Thomas Kummer  wrote:
> 
> I’m tempted to ask the guy if they come with a bottle of KY jelly to shove 
> ‘em up his ass. lol

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Re: [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity

[Thomas Kummer]

I’m tempted to ask the guy if they come with a bottle of KY jelly to shove ‘em 
up his ass. lol 

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[neonixie-l] Re: Anode current and voltage measurement

[gregebert]

Anode voltage is easy; just use a resistive divider to get the voltage 
within the range of your ADC, and be sure to put a filter cap (0.01uF 
should work) at the ADC input (most ADC inputs appear as a 
switched-capacitor).

Current is a different animal. The easiest way to dodge this is to use a 
current-limit circuit at each anode and you really dont need to measure it 
anymore.

Anode current can be measured at the cathode side by tying all of the 
cathode drivers together, then connecting to GND thru a sense-resistor. For 
example, if you use an HV5530 to drive your cathodes, connect all of the 
VSS pins together, then to GND thru a sense resistor. If you drive 3 tubes 
from single HV5530, your max current will be about 15mA. Next, select a 
sense-resistor that will give about 1V drop at 15mA; by ohms law this works 
to about 67 ohms. Be aware the sense-resistor will affect the 
signal-integrity into the HV5530, so be sure to use the recommended input 
levels (12V logic), and this will directly impact your low-level noise 
margin. But with a 1V drop, the overall impact to noise margin at 12V 
signal swing is negligible.

The other option is high-side current-monitoring. You could use a cheap 
analog or digital meter and put in-series with the anode supply. If you 
want to extract that info for you microcontroller, then your best option is 
to have an A/D converter on the high-side, and use opto-isolators on the 
serial interface to the ADC. There will be a fair amount of support 
circuitry for this, so be warned.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity

[Robert L]

At least this seller adds exclusive packaging!


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Re: [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity

[Bill Notfaded]

Not even worth half that.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Anyone still make dekatron spinners or have any pcb's or kits?

[Bill Notfaded]

I just snagged the GC12/4B's a couple of them.  They're getting harder to find 
for a decent price.

Bill

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[neonixie-l] Re: Where our Nixie's may have come from.. well, cool pics anyway...

[martin martin]

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[neonixie-l] Re: Where our Nixie's may have come from?- well, cool pics anyway...

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[neonixie-l] Where our Nixie may have come from?

[martin martin]

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Re: [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Seller must have had a change of heart after all the chatter circling the 
web on this topic.  He's now lowered them to a much more affordable $950.00

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Z566M-VINTAGE-NIXIE-6pcs-Perfect-Working-NOT-Used-BEYOND-RARE/133047448056?hash=item1efa3ef1f8:g:uZkAAOSwsVtc1KpE

I guess now they're just RARE and not BEYOND Rare.



On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 9:32:41 AM UTC-4, Pramanicin wrote:
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> Ha ha hanice one Bill.
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> On May 10, 2019, at 06:30, Bill van Dijk  > wrote:
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> But you’ll earn $10 in Ebay bucks……. J
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> I want some of what this guy is drinking.
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> When the going price is $250-300 for a set of 6.
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[neonixie-l] Anode current and voltage measurement

[Paul Andrews]

I would like to be able to measure the anode voltage and current on one of my 
clocks and have a permanent display of those values built in to it. I came 
across this reference design at TI 
(http://www.ti.com/tool/tida-00528?jktype=design#technicaldocuments) but was 
wondering if anyone can point me at other possible solutions?

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