[neonixie-l] Re: IN-28's in real life...

2019-08-07 Thread Tyler Bourne
Adventures with IN-28s.

I have determined that in this clock the IN-28s are operated in the 
following way:

The anode is connected to half wave rectified 240V AC, the cathode is 
grounded through a 4.7K resistor.
The grid is connected to the control board through a 1M resistor with a 
3.9M pulldown.  I assume the grid voltage is around 160-170V

The original transformer is gone so I will have to make a new one.  This 
isn't too bad since I can make it with a 120V primary.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?

2019-08-07 Thread Dekatron42
Don't forget to ask the manufacturer if it can measure high capacitance 
MLCC capacitors if you are going to use that type of capacitor as they are 
a bit tricky to test.

There are some explanations for this from the manufacturers, and this from 
Digikey: https://forum.digikey.com/t/testing-high-capacitance-mlcc-s/34.

I once got an earlier model (some 3 years ago I think it was) of the 
DE-5000 and then it didn't measure MLCC capacitors correctly.

/Martin

On Wednesday, 7 August 2019 21:09:34 UTC+2, Bill Notfaded wrote:
>
> For many things that's alright but most meters like that only test at one 
> set lower frequency... often 100Hz or less.  The meter I posted is unique 
> for the money because it can test in the high frequencies previously only 
> expensive test gear would.  For the reason why this and also frequencies 
> like specifically 120Hz are important TRX Bench can explain much better 
> than I ever could:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivVSq0IiZGo=24s
>
> I'm not an EE but a CIS major so I can really appreciate this explanation.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Bill
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?

2019-08-07 Thread Bill Notfaded
For many things that's alright but most meters like that only test at one 
set lower frequency... often 100Hz or less.  The meter I posted is unique 
for the money because it can test in the high frequencies previously only 
expensive test gear would.  For the reason why this and also frequencies 
like specifically 120Hz are important TRX Bench can explain much better 
than I ever could:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivVSq0IiZGo=24s

I'm not an EE but a CIS major so I can really appreciate this explanation.

Best Regards,

Bill

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?

2019-08-07 Thread Paul Andrews
I bought the meter he linked to. It is really quite amazing. You can connect 
the component being tested, to any of the leads in any orientation. It figures 
out what it is and which way round it is, then measures it.

> On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:16 PM, Bill Notfaded  wrote:
> 
> Not as cheap but this is the LCR meter I use and it's highly respected on the 
> EEVBlog (one of my fav EE sites):
> https://www.deree.com.tw/de-5000-lcr-meter.html
> 
> You can buy the bundle on ebay and amazon for around a C note.  I picked a 
> spare TL-21 and then hacked it to add longer kevin clip cables... there are 
> many videos on the internet showing it:
> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/de-5000-lcr-tl-21-mod/
> 
> These larger, longer kelvin clips have made testing things like these... I've 
> upgraded some Hafler DH-500 amps recently with new filter caps:
> 24000UF 100V
> 
> 
> 
> Until recently I had always thought a really good LCR meter was kinda too 
> pricey and out of reach for me.  Well like many other things technology has 
> improved and reduced the price for very accurate testing gear.  One thing 
> really nice is it's auto mode.  When testing surface mount components 
> sometimes I've found it's hard to tell what's what.  Is that a resistor or an 
> inductor?  It's not perfect but most of the time it's spot on.  The ability 
> to change the test frequency up to 100kHz is really nice.  Most spec sheets 
> for parts in the US use 120 Hz and it's got that too.
> 
> Bill
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[neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?

2019-08-07 Thread Bill Notfaded
Not as cheap but this is the LCR meter I use and it's highly respected on 
the EEVBlog (one of my fav EE sites):
https://www.deree.com.tw/de-5000-lcr-meter.html

You can buy the bundle on ebay and amazon for around a C note.  I picked a 
spare TL-21 and then hacked it to add longer kevin clip cables... there are 
many videos on the internet showing it:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/de-5000-lcr-tl-21-mod/

These larger, longer kelvin clips have made testing things like these... 
I've upgraded some Hafler DH-500 amps recently with new filter caps:

[image: E36D101LPC243UDA5M.jpg]24000UF 100V


Until recently I had always thought a really good LCR meter was kinda too 
pricey and out of reach for me.  Well like many other things technology has 
improved and reduced the price for very accurate testing gear.  One thing 
really nice is it's auto mode.  When testing surface mount components 
sometimes I've found it's hard to tell what's what.  Is that a resistor or 
an inductor?  It's not perfect but most of the time it's spot on.  The 
ability to change the test frequency up to 100kHz is really nice.  Most 
spec sheets for parts in the US use 120 Hz and it's got that too.

Bill

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