Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO

[liam bartosiewicz]

That symbol tube is super cool, never seen a NIMO display anything other than numbers, must be orders of magnitude more rare than the normal onesOn May 13, 2024, at 3:02 PM, ZY  wrote:Oh doh, I didn't realize those pictures where already mentioned in the threadOn Monday 13 May 2024 at 17:47:11 UTC-4 ZY wrote:I'm not sure what is going on in this site, I think the "seller" is just posting the tubes to show off instead of them being for sale, but there is a blue colored one pictured? The description seems to only mention green with numbers, green with symbols, and orange, so maybe the blue is just some photoshop work:https://www.yoycart.com/Product/565022565965/On Monday 13 May 2024 at 11:07:22 UTC-4 Nicholas Stock wrote:https://www.ebay.com/itm/166758859027Not my auction Cheers,NickOn Sun, May 12, 2024 at 5:49 PM gregebert  wrote:I dont think IEE got their NIMO tubes into volume production, and I've never seen any photos of a real product using them. There is a photo of some kind of gizmo in the IEE sales literature, but that was probably a mockup. It's unfortunate that all the engineering effort and talent that went into their creation didn't get the recognition it deserved. Had they appeared 20 years earlier, perhaps nixie tubes would have been the rarities instead of NIMOs.On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 4:20:48 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote:Well, none of my green ones have the 'right' number on them either, so maybe they were all pre-production? On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 9:41 AM liam bartosiewicz  wrote:According to the datasheet, this tube should have the part/ordering number BA-0006-P27, though the tubes don’t actually get marked with that On May 9, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Nicholas Stock  wrote:Hi Greg, 
6000-93- on the side. So no P number as I've seen on others.On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 8:31 AM gregebert  wrote:Are there any markings, part numbers, etc that indicate this tube has a different phosphor ? I suspect it could be an ultra-rare engineering sample.Most of the NIMO tubes I've seen, which isn't very many, have 31 in the part number (P31 phosphor), though I have seen two with '92' in the part number that have a yellowish tint mixed with the normal green. I wasn't able to find any phosphor designated P92.On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote:I'm going to sell this Red NIMO tube. It's apparently unused (no phosphor burn at all) and all the digits work as you can see in the video. I'll be honest and upfront with everyone here, I'm looking for serious offers and will keep in mind that listing it on the bay incurs fees etc, so if interested, please send me an offer. All the other used green NIMOs sold.Best,NickOn Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 7:11 PM Nicholas Stock  wrote:I won't be trying that test :)Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 28, 2024, at 19:06, liam bartosiewicz  wrote:That’s super cool! I wonder if it’s better at resisting burn in than the normal green phosphor.On Apr 28, 2024, at 5:49 PM, Pramanicin  wrote:Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a regular green oneOn Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote:I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs. The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the bulbs.On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote:On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Yohan Park  wrote:I think these would fit nicely with the Nimo tubes.https://www.ebay.com/itm/195661812653The only problem is that these will work loose from vibration and thermal cycling. Use bayonet based bulbs instead. Trust me.Terry Bowman, KA4HJH"The Mac Doctor"https://www.astarcloseup.com"If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, Blade Runner



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Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO

[ZY]

Oh doh, I didn't realize those pictures where already mentioned in the 
thread

On Monday 13 May 2024 at 17:47:11 UTC-4 ZY wrote:

> I'm not sure what is going on in this site, I think the "seller" is just 
> posting the tubes to show off instead of them being for sale, but there is 
> a blue colored one pictured? The description seems to only mention green 
> with numbers, green with symbols, and orange, so maybe the blue is just 
> some photoshop work:
>
> https://www.yoycart.com/Product/565022565965/
>
> On Monday 13 May 2024 at 11:07:22 UTC-4 Nicholas Stock wrote:
>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/166758859027
>>
>> Not my auction 
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 5:49 PM gregebert  wrote:
>>
>>> I dont think IEE got their NIMO tubes into volume production, and I've 
>>> never seen any photos of a real product using them. There is a photo of 
>>> some kind of gizmo in the IEE sales literature, but that was probably a 
>>> mockup. It's unfortunate that all the engineering effort and talent that 
>>> went into their creation didn't get the recognition it deserved. Had they 
>>> appeared 20 years earlier, perhaps nixie tubes would have been the rarities 
>>> instead of NIMOs.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 4:20:48 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote:
>>>
 Well, none of my green ones have the 'right' number on them either, so 
 maybe they were all pre-production? 

 On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 9:41 AM liam bartosiewicz  
 wrote:

> According to the datasheet, this tube should have the part/ordering 
> number BA-0006-P27, though the tubes don’t actually get marked with that 
>
> On May 9, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Nicholas Stock  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Greg, 6000-93- on the side. So no P number as I've seen on 
> others.
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 8:31 AM gregebert  wrote:
>
>> Are there any markings, part numbers, etc that indicate this tube has 
>> a different phosphor ? I suspect it could be an ultra-rare engineering 
>> sample.
>>
>> Most of the NIMO tubes I've seen, which isn't very many, have 31 in 
>> the part number (P31 phosphor), though I have seen two with '92' in the 
>> part number that have a yellowish tint mixed with the normal green. I 
>> wasn't able to find any phosphor designated P92.
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote:
>>
>>> I'm going to sell this Red NIMO tube. It's apparently unused (no 
>>> phosphor burn at all) and all the digits work as you can see in the 
>>> video. 
>>> I'll be honest and upfront with everyone here, I'm looking for serious 
>>> offers and will keep in mind that listing it on the bay incurs fees 
>>> etc, so 
>>> if interested, please send me an offer. 
>>>
>>> All the other used green NIMOs sold.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 7:11 PM Nicholas Stock  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I won't be trying that test :)

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 28, 2024, at 19:06, liam bartosiewicz  
 wrote:

 
 That’s super cool! I wonder if it’s better at resisting burn in 
 than the normal green phosphor.

 On Apr 28, 2024, at 5:49 PM, Pramanicin  wrote:

 Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a 
 regular green one

 On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote:

> I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs. 
> The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the 
> bulbs.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote:
>
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Yohan Park  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I think these would fit nicely with the Nimo tubes.
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/195661812653
>>
>>
>> The only problem is that these will work loose from vibration and 
>> thermal cycling. Use bayonet based bulbs instead. Trust me.
>>
>>
>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
>> "The Mac Doctor"
>>
>> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>>
>> "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, 
>> *Blade 
>> Runner*
>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO

[ZY]

I'm not sure what is going on in this site, I think the "seller" is just 
posting the tubes to show off instead of them being for sale, but there is 
a blue colored one pictured? The description seems to only mention green 
with numbers, green with symbols, and orange, so maybe the blue is just 
some photoshop work:

https://www.yoycart.com/Product/565022565965/

On Monday 13 May 2024 at 11:07:22 UTC-4 Nicholas Stock wrote:

> https://www.ebay.com/itm/166758859027
>
> Not my auction 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nick
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 5:49 PM gregebert  wrote:
>
>> I dont think IEE got their NIMO tubes into volume production, and I've 
>> never seen any photos of a real product using them. There is a photo of 
>> some kind of gizmo in the IEE sales literature, but that was probably a 
>> mockup. It's unfortunate that all the engineering effort and talent that 
>> went into their creation didn't get the recognition it deserved. Had they 
>> appeared 20 years earlier, perhaps nixie tubes would have been the rarities 
>> instead of NIMOs.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 4:20:48 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote:
>>
>>> Well, none of my green ones have the 'right' number on them either, so 
>>> maybe they were all pre-production? 
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 9:41 AM liam bartosiewicz  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 According to the datasheet, this tube should have the part/ordering 
 number BA-0006-P27, though the tubes don’t actually get marked with that 

 On May 9, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Nicholas Stock  wrote:

 
 Hi Greg, 6000-93- on the side. So no P number as I've seen on 
 others.

 On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 8:31 AM gregebert  wrote:

> Are there any markings, part numbers, etc that indicate this tube has 
> a different phosphor ? I suspect it could be an ultra-rare engineering 
> sample.
>
> Most of the NIMO tubes I've seen, which isn't very many, have 31 in 
> the part number (P31 phosphor), though I have seen two with '92' in the 
> part number that have a yellowish tint mixed with the normal green. I 
> wasn't able to find any phosphor designated P92.
>
> On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote:
>
>> I'm going to sell this Red NIMO tube. It's apparently unused (no 
>> phosphor burn at all) and all the digits work as you can see in the 
>> video. 
>> I'll be honest and upfront with everyone here, I'm looking for serious 
>> offers and will keep in mind that listing it on the bay incurs fees etc, 
>> so 
>> if interested, please send me an offer. 
>>
>> All the other used green NIMOs sold.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 7:11 PM Nicholas Stock  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I won't be trying that test :)
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 28, 2024, at 19:06, liam bartosiewicz  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> That’s super cool! I wonder if it’s better at resisting burn in than 
>>> the normal green phosphor.
>>>
>>> On Apr 28, 2024, at 5:49 PM, Pramanicin  wrote:
>>>
>>> Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a regular 
>>> green one
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote:
>>>
 I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs. 
 The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the 
 bulbs.



 On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote:

>
> On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Yohan Park  
> wrote:
>
> I think these would fit nicely with the Nimo tubes.
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/195661812653
>
>
> The only problem is that these will work loose from vibration and 
> thermal cycling. Use bayonet based bulbs instead. Trust me.
>
>
> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
> "The Mac Doctor"
>
> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>
> "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, 
> *Blade 
> Runner*
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] IN-13 driver circuit resistor power rating

[Zachary]

Does anyone know what is the thickness of the leads on the IN-13? I haven't 
received the ones I ordered yet so I can't measure it and I couldn't find 
anything online.

On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 1:54:39 PM UTC-4 Mac Doktor wrote:

> On May 7, 2024, at 9:55 PM, Zachary  wrote:
>
> Yes that does in fact confuse me even more.
>
>
> I must be psychic.
>
>
> However I looked at the component list from the source of the image you 
> sent ("M. Moores' Nixie Thermometer Kit") and he does use 1/4W resistors 
> and not >1W like the Russian datasheet indicates so that's good.
>
>
> I have the thermometer. It's designed to only travel halfway up the IN-13. 
> Seeing as how 140V x 4.5mA = 0.63W, perhaps Mike's playing it safe with the 
> current. Or it may play nicer with "bad" ones.
>
>
> I'm not sure what I need for Q2 however. Should I use a second MJD340 
> (which is the SMD version of the MJE340 I've seen on many existing design) 
> or any transistor will do? Or do I need it at all? Many designs don't 
> include it for some reason. 
>
>
> Mike seems to be a fan of discrete circuits so there must be some magic 
> going on here. You should ask him.
>
>
> My understanding is that it's there for because of this from the Russian 
> datasheet:
>
> > "To avoid braking the light column when switching abruptly, we 
> recommend: When switching on, the main cathode should not be on, and there 
> should only be current on the auxiliary cathode."
>
>
> I'm not sure that I've ever seen it actually done that way.
>
>
> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
> "The Mac Doctor"
>
> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>
> "Every kid starts out as a natural-born scientist, and then we beat it out 
> of them. A few trickle through the system with their wonder and enthusiasm 
> for science intact."—Carl Sagan, *Psychology Today*, 1996
>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] NIMO

[Nicholas Stock]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/166758859027

Not my auction

Cheers,

Nick

On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 5:49 PM gregebert  wrote:

> I dont think IEE got their NIMO tubes into volume production, and I've
> never seen any photos of a real product using them. There is a photo of
> some kind of gizmo in the IEE sales literature, but that was probably a
> mockup. It's unfortunate that all the engineering effort and talent that
> went into their creation didn't get the recognition it deserved. Had they
> appeared 20 years earlier, perhaps nixie tubes would have been the rarities
> instead of NIMOs.
>
> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 4:20:48 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote:
>
>> Well, none of my green ones have the 'right' number on them either, so
>> maybe they were all pre-production?
>>
>> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 9:41 AM liam bartosiewicz 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> According to the datasheet, this tube should have the part/ordering
>>> number BA-0006-P27, though the tubes don’t actually get marked with that
>>>
>>> On May 9, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Nicholas Stock  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hi Greg, 6000-93- on the side. So no P number as I've seen on others.
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 8:31 AM gregebert  wrote:
>>>
 Are there any markings, part numbers, etc that indicate this tube has a
 different phosphor ? I suspect it could be an ultra-rare engineering 
 sample.

 Most of the NIMO tubes I've seen, which isn't very many, have 31 in the
 part number (P31 phosphor), though I have seen two with '92' in the part
 number that have a yellowish tint mixed with the normal green. I wasn't
 able to find any phosphor designated P92.

 On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-7 Nicholas Stock wrote:

> I'm going to sell this Red NIMO tube. It's apparently unused (no
> phosphor burn at all) and all the digits work as you can see in the video.
> I'll be honest and upfront with everyone here, I'm looking for serious
> offers and will keep in mind that listing it on the bay incurs fees etc, 
> so
> if interested, please send me an offer.
>
> All the other used green NIMOs sold.
>
> Best,
>
> Nick
>
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 7:11 PM Nicholas Stock 
> wrote:
>
>> I won't be trying that test :)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2024, at 19:06, liam bartosiewicz 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> That’s super cool! I wonder if it’s better at resisting burn in than
>> the normal green phosphor.
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2024, at 5:49 PM, Pramanicin  wrote:
>>
>> Bit speechless didn't know I had this, thought it was a regular
>> green one
>>
>> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7 jörg wrote:
>>
>>> I've programmed the PWM for the green-neon bulbs.
>>> The fading looks pretty okay for me. Same for the spacing of the
>>> bulbs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:43:02 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote:
>>>

 On Apr 4, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Yohan Park 
 wrote:

 I think these would fit nicely with the Nimo tubes.
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/195661812653


 The only problem is that these will work loose from vibration and
 thermal cycling. Use bayonet based bulbs instead. Trust me.


 Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
 "The Mac Doctor"

 https://www.astarcloseup.com

 "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, 
 *Blade
 Runner*

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