Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Slightly OT: Where do I find the black woven tape used in electronics?

[Jeffry Portell]

Gaffer's tape usually works well.

On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 7:44 AM J Forbes  wrote:

> Pictures of what you are talking about are always helpful. I can't quite
> imagine what it might be.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 6:30:39 AM UTC-7 Dekatron42 wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to find the black woven tape used to tape connectors to
>> each other to keep them connected and it is also use to tape cables down to
>> the casing.
>>
>> I am restoring some old electronics equipment where this tape has been
>> used but the glue used on the tape has dried over the years and the tape
>> has come loose.
>>
>> There are thousands upon thousands of different tapes to be bought at
>> places like Digikey and Mouser but I just don't know where to start and I
>> hope that someone here can point me in the right direction.
>>
>> /Martin
>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Saturday give away!

[Jeffry Portell]

I have one of these as well. The digits will not settle on a number. If you
find a manual I'd love to have a look at it.

On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 8:48 AM martin martin  wrote:

> Greetings all,
> I was helping a client in a curios place in downtown Los Angeles called
> Fairfax. The 1966 vintage HP 3439A 4 digit meter was sitting on a shelf.
> He said "you can have it"
> I included three photos for all see, including the calibration tag!  Last
> used in 1987.
> Of course this old girl will need some caps and calibration.  Time to dig
> up a service manual!
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Nirvana update

[Jeffry Portell]

I have 7971's to trade.

want list:
GR414
CD47
ZM1047
ZM1049
XN27
NL-926
GA1
LL-557
LL-555

On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 2:38 PM Dekatron42 
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> So, what Nixies do you have that you are offering for trade and what are
> you looking for to add to your collection?
>
> /Martin
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie Nirvana

[Jeffry Portell]

There is a Burroughs tube that comes in a box you fit a BigMac in. I
haven't looked in the box yet- I'm never near a chair when it's nearby.

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 5:36 AM Bill Notfaded  wrote:

> Jeffrey-
>
> Where there any big Borroughs or NL tubes vertical or round?
>
> Bill
> On Wednesday, August 25, 2021 at 1:46:02 PM UTC-7 Jeffry P wrote:
>
>> Hi Nick,
>>
>> I've been lurking in this group since its creation.  Most of the
>> discussion is a bit beyond me but interesting nonetheless.  Some members
>> were asking where the pictures were- I was referring to the pictures listed
>> on the Facebook group. I have not posted any pictures anywhere. I'm about
>> halfway through sorting tubes into bins, so that all alike types are
>> together. Burroughs has the lead as far as variety with National right
>> behind.Valvo and Amperex are well represented. This coming weekend I should
>> be able to finish sorting. I'll post some pictures when the sorting is
>> finished. Thank you to all who have sent encouraging words. I was concerned
>> that some folks would be out of joint because I went in and got everything.
>> If you were planning on going to Huntsville for nixies this weekend I
>> apologize. There were some meters left that someone might be interested in.
>> I'm referring to the photos on the Facebook page (Harpers Home Estate
>> Sales). The collection came from Michael Seaton. He had a few posts here
>> and his name was in his email address.
>>
>> Jeffry
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 10:30 PM Nicholas Stock 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jeffry, welcome to the group!!!
>>>
>>> As a long time Nixie fan, clock builder, collector etc, I applaud you
>>> for keeping the treasure trove together. I noted a lot of highly sought
>>> after goodies in the photos (including a rather *excessive* number of
>>> old Axiris VU meters!). As a fellow nixie/neon nutcase and one of the
>>> moderators of the group, let me know if there's anything I(we) can do to
>>> help you with info, pricing etcthere are a lot of really knowledgeable
>>> and thoughtful folks on this list and whilst a lot of us are probably
>>> *agog* at the collection, deep-down we're happy that it is all in one
>>> place and with someone who knows its value (not just monetarily).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 6:16 PM Audrey  wrote:
>>>
>>>> You should give them to me :)
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:14 PM Jeffry Portell 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes he and I are the same age. I need to think about where all this
>>>>> should go in the event of my demise.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 3:27 PM Jeff Walton  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice to hear that someone from the group was able to make the trip.
>>>>>> You are fortunate to have your hands on such a treasure trove of
>>>>>> antiquities!  Looking forward to seeing photos of the collection.
>>>>>> Eventually we all have collections that will change hands, some sooner 
>>>>>> than
>>>>>> others...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Jeff *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Original message 
>>>>>> From: Jeffry P 
>>>>>> Date: 8/23/21 11:15 AM (GMT-06:00)
>>>>>> To: neonixie-l 
>>>>>> Subject: [neonixie-l] Nixie Nirvana
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good morning to all!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I joined the original Neonixie-l group on Yahoo many years ago when
>>>>>> Raymond W. was moderator. I had the privilege of paying him $100+ for a
>>>>>> ‘Four Letter Word’ kit that never arrived. Raymond was good at making
>>>>>> excuses ( waiting for parts, illness, earthquakes, no reliable help, 
>>>>>> etc.)
>>>>>> and always promised that no matter what I would get a kit. Meanwhile, the
>>>>>> time had run out for a refund. The (4) B7971’s were gathering dust while
>>>>>> waiting to broadcast their message as tame, colorful, or indecent per 
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> preferences! I think there was something in there about nuns blushing as
>>>>>> well. I still get a twinge while checking my postal mailbox and recalling
>>>

Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie Nirvana

[Jeffry Portell]

Hi Nick,

I've been lurking in this group since its creation.  Most of the discussion
is a bit beyond me but interesting nonetheless.  Some members were asking
where the pictures were- I was referring to the pictures listed on the
Facebook group. I have not posted any pictures anywhere. I'm about halfway
through sorting tubes into bins, so that all alike types are together.
Burroughs has the lead as far as variety with National right behind.Valvo
and Amperex are well represented. This coming weekend I should be able to
finish sorting. I'll post some pictures when the sorting is finished. Thank
you to all who have sent encouraging words. I was concerned that some folks
would be out of joint because I went in and got everything. If you were
planning on going to Huntsville for nixies this weekend I apologize. There
were some meters left that someone might be interested in. I'm referring to
the photos on the Facebook page (Harpers Home Estate Sales). The collection
came from Michael Seaton. He had a few posts here and his name was in his
email address.

Jeffry

On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 10:30 PM Nicholas Stock  wrote:

> Hi Jeffry, welcome to the group!!!
>
> As a long time Nixie fan, clock builder, collector etc, I applaud you for
> keeping the treasure trove together. I noted a lot of highly sought after
> goodies in the photos (including a rather *excessive* number of old
> Axiris VU meters!). As a fellow nixie/neon nutcase and one of the
> moderators of the group, let me know if there's anything I(we) can do to
> help you with info, pricing etcthere are a lot of really knowledgeable
> and thoughtful folks on this list and whilst a lot of us are probably
> *agog* at the collection, deep-down we're happy that it is all in one
> place and with someone who knows its value (not just monetarily).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nick
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 6:16 PM Audrey  wrote:
>
>> You should give them to me :)
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 9:14 PM Jeffry Portell 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes he and I are the same age. I need to think about where all this
>>> should go in the event of my demise.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 3:27 PM Jeff Walton  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nice to hear that someone from the group was able to make the trip.
>>>> You are fortunate to have your hands on such a treasure trove of
>>>> antiquities!  Looking forward to seeing photos of the collection.
>>>> Eventually we all have collections that will change hands, some sooner than
>>>> others...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Jeff *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Original message 
>>>> From: Jeffry P 
>>>> Date: 8/23/21 11:15 AM (GMT-06:00)
>>>> To: neonixie-l 
>>>> Subject: [neonixie-l] Nixie Nirvana
>>>>
>>>> Good morning to all!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I joined the original Neonixie-l group on Yahoo many years ago when
>>>> Raymond W. was moderator. I had the privilege of paying him $100+ for a
>>>> ‘Four Letter Word’ kit that never arrived. Raymond was good at making
>>>> excuses ( waiting for parts, illness, earthquakes, no reliable help, etc.)
>>>> and always promised that no matter what I would get a kit. Meanwhile, the
>>>> time had run out for a refund. The (4) B7971’s were gathering dust while
>>>> waiting to broadcast their message as tame, colorful, or indecent per your
>>>> preferences! I think there was something in there about nuns blushing as
>>>> well. I still get a twinge while checking my postal mailbox and recalling
>>>> the 2 years of looking for a package from ‘Indonesia’.
>>>>
>>>>  R.W took a lot of money from people and didn’t deliver. I believe many
>>>> of his unfortunate customers were, and still are, responsible for the
>>>> renewed interest in using nixie tubes. Kits were being designed by
>>>> hobbyists and enterprising individuals found and marketed tubes  that could
>>>> be used to build clocks. I had bought the (4)B7971’s for my FLW on eBay in
>>>> anticipation of the kit arrival.
>>>>
>>>> I love clocks-flip clocks, nixies, and electronic types especially.
>>>> Online auctions made access to these clocks easy and somewhat affordable. I
>>>> ordered another kit from a seller on eBay named Pete Hand. I actually
>>>> received the kit, built it, and I was now the proud owner of a Four
>>>> -Letter- Word. I’ve owned quite a few four letter words in my lifetime but
>>>> once they fall out of your mouth…..
>>>

Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie Nirvana

[Jeffry Portell]

Thank you Audrey for your kind words. I'm looking forward to sharing this
amazing collection.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 11:22 AM Audrey  wrote:

> You may type slow but you're a wonderful writer. I'm glad the tubes went
> to you, jeffry. Hope you are able to show some long-unseen tubes
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 12:15 PM Jeffry P  wrote:
>
>> Good morning to all!
>>
>>
>> I joined the original Neonixie-l group on Yahoo many years ago when
>> Raymond W. was moderator. I had the privilege of paying him $100+ for a
>> ‘Four Letter Word’ kit that never arrived. Raymond was good at making
>> excuses ( waiting for parts, illness, earthquakes, no reliable help, etc.)
>> and always promised that no matter what I would get a kit. Meanwhile, the
>> time had run out for a refund. The (4) B7971’s were gathering dust while
>> waiting to broadcast their message as tame, colorful, or indecent per your
>> preferences! I think there was something in there about nuns blushing as
>> well. I still get a twinge while checking my postal mailbox and recalling
>> the 2 years of looking for a package from ‘Indonesia’.
>>
>>  R.W took a lot of money from people and didn’t deliver. I believe many
>> of his unfortunate customers were, and still are, responsible for the
>> renewed interest in using nixie tubes. Kits were being designed by
>> hobbyists and enterprising individuals found and marketed tubes  that could
>> be used to build clocks. I had bought the (4)B7971’s for my FLW on eBay in
>> anticipation of the kit arrival.
>>
>> I love clocks-flip clocks, nixies, and electronic types especially.
>> Online auctions made access to these clocks easy and somewhat affordable. I
>> ordered another kit from a seller on eBay named Pete Hand. I actually
>> received the kit, built it, and I was now the proud owner of a Four
>> -Letter- Word. I’ve owned quite a few four letter words in my lifetime but
>> once they fall out of your mouth…..
>>
>> I bought and built another kit and was hooked on nixies. I watched prices
>> rise for certain tubes and bought them and others as my budget would allow.
>> The intention was to make clocks with them when I retired. I bought a few
>> kits that featured newer display types and learned about SMD’s through
>> trial and error.
>>
>> This past weekend I made a trip to Madison Alabama which is a suburb of
>> Huntsville AL. NASA and it’s supporting industries (Northrup, Intergraph,
>> Boeing, Dynetics, etc.) put Huntsville on the map as a hub for technical
>> and engineering products and services. The area has computer scientists,
>> mechanical and electronic engineers, Material Science PHD’s, and thousands
>> of really smart people.
>>
>> Please bear with me as I feel there is a story to be told here. A
>> computer scientist, whom I’ll call RS had a more than passing interest in
>> Nixes. Unfortunately he passed away suddenly while in his prime years. I
>> believe this person was personally known to members of the Nixie
>> community.  I am in possession of RS’s extensive collection of Nixie tubes,
>> built clocks, and collector's pieces. Technical documentation and assembly
>> manuals were kept in file folders.  Included is some correspondence related
>> to RS’s support of the art of manufacturing Nixie tubes.
>>
>> I arrived home yesterday after having flown to Huntsville, renting a
>> truck, packing the collection, and driving 12 hours. Saturday and Sunday
>> were one long day for me and I need to rest a bit and recover. If RS’s
>> brother reads this I want to say it was great to meet you and thank you for
>> giving (no it was purchased) myself and the world this fine collection to
>> enjoy. I plan on keeping this collection complete.
>>
>> Now for the good part………
>>
>> I believe RS was friends with engineers in the aerospace industry as a
>> lot of the tubes are NOS in original boxes with identical date codes. These
>> would have been backup replacements or engineering samples used by NASA .
>> Most of these were American manufactured and include the full range of
>> tubes from Burroughs, RCA, Amperex, National, AEG, etc. The items range
>> from 6 to 20 pieces of each model.
>>
>> There_is_a_ mouth_full_of_hen’s_teeth_here! That last sentence is a
>> matter of fact. I’ve seen the pages of Claus-Dieter, Cathode Corner, and
>> Sphere and a few others. Are these pages of tubes they actually own or just
>> reference info and sale availability? Does anyone have a complete list of
>> every type of nixie tube that was manufactured?
>>
>> RS’s collection contains some Russian and Chinese tubes but I think they
>> were extras for the clocks he built.
>>
>> Most of the shipping boxes for all the tubes he had were emptied in
>> preparation for the sale. I took me 5 hours to pack up everything and RS’s
>> brother and Estate agent were very gracious in the time they allowed me to
>> pack everything. I didn’t have time to wrap each tube that didn’t have a
>> box and I have a 3’x3’x4’ box of loose tubes. The egg cartons 

Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie Nirvana

[Jeffry Portell]

Yes he and I are the same age. I need to think about where all this should
go in the event of my demise.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 3:27 PM Jeff Walton  wrote:

> Nice to hear that someone from the group was able to make the trip.  You
> are fortunate to have your hands on such a treasure trove of antiquities!
> Looking forward to seeing photos of the collection.  Eventually we all have
> collections that will change hands, some sooner than others...
>
>
> *Jeff *
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Jeffry P 
> Date: 8/23/21 11:15 AM (GMT-06:00)
> To: neonixie-l 
> Subject: [neonixie-l] Nixie Nirvana
>
> Good morning to all!
>
>
> I joined the original Neonixie-l group on Yahoo many years ago when
> Raymond W. was moderator. I had the privilege of paying him $100+ for a
> ‘Four Letter Word’ kit that never arrived. Raymond was good at making
> excuses ( waiting for parts, illness, earthquakes, no reliable help, etc.)
> and always promised that no matter what I would get a kit. Meanwhile, the
> time had run out for a refund. The (4) B7971’s were gathering dust while
> waiting to broadcast their message as tame, colorful, or indecent per your
> preferences! I think there was something in there about nuns blushing as
> well. I still get a twinge while checking my postal mailbox and recalling
> the 2 years of looking for a package from ‘Indonesia’.
>
>  R.W took a lot of money from people and didn’t deliver. I believe many of
> his unfortunate customers were, and still are, responsible for the renewed
> interest in using nixie tubes. Kits were being designed by hobbyists and
> enterprising individuals found and marketed tubes  that could be used to
> build clocks. I had bought the (4)B7971’s for my FLW on eBay in
> anticipation of the kit arrival.
>
> I love clocks-flip clocks, nixies, and electronic types especially. Online
> auctions made access to these clocks easy and somewhat affordable. I
> ordered another kit from a seller on eBay named Pete Hand. I actually
> received the kit, built it, and I was now the proud owner of a Four
> -Letter- Word. I’ve owned quite a few four letter words in my lifetime but
> once they fall out of your mouth…..
>
> I bought and built another kit and was hooked on nixies. I watched prices
> rise for certain tubes and bought them and others as my budget would allow.
> The intention was to make clocks with them when I retired. I bought a few
> kits that featured newer display types and learned about SMD’s through
> trial and error.
>
> This past weekend I made a trip to Madison Alabama which is a suburb of
> Huntsville AL. NASA and it’s supporting industries (Northrup, Intergraph,
> Boeing, Dynetics, etc.) put Huntsville on the map as a hub for technical
> and engineering products and services. The area has computer scientists,
> mechanical and electronic engineers, Material Science PHD’s, and thousands
> of really smart people.
>
> Please bear with me as I feel there is a story to be told here. A computer
> scientist, whom I’ll call RS had a more than passing interest in Nixes.
> Unfortunately he passed away suddenly while in his prime years. I believe
> this person was personally known to members of the Nixie community.  I am
> in possession of RS’s extensive collection of Nixie tubes, built clocks,
> and collector's pieces. Technical documentation and assembly manuals were
> kept in file folders.  Included is some correspondence related to RS’s
> support of the art of manufacturing Nixie tubes.
>
> I arrived home yesterday after having flown to Huntsville, renting a
> truck, packing the collection, and driving 12 hours. Saturday and Sunday
> were one long day for me and I need to rest a bit and recover. If RS’s
> brother reads this I want to say it was great to meet you and thank you for
> giving (no it was purchased) myself and the world this fine collection to
> enjoy. I plan on keeping this collection complete.
>
> Now for the good part………
>
> I believe RS was friends with engineers in the aerospace industry as a lot
> of the tubes are NOS in original boxes with identical date codes. These
> would have been backup replacements or engineering samples used by NASA .
> Most of these were American manufactured and include the full range of
> tubes from Burroughs, RCA, Amperex, National, AEG, etc. The items range
> from 6 to 20 pieces of each model.
>
> There_is_a_ mouth_full_of_hen’s_teeth_here! That last sentence is a matter
> of fact. I’ve seen the pages of Claus-Dieter, Cathode Corner, and Sphere
> and a few others. Are these pages of tubes they actually own or just
> reference info and sale availability? Does anyone have a complete list of
> every type of nixie tube that was manufactured?
>
> RS’s collection contains some Russian and Chinese tubes but I think they
> were extras for the clocks he built.
>
> Most of the shipping boxes for all the tubes he had were emptied in
> preparation for the sale. I took me 5 hours to pack up everything and RS’s
> brother and 

Re: [neonixie-l] ebay DIY clock

[Jeffry Portell]

After not being able to get the proper instructions to build the kit I
asked to exchange for an assembled one. They replied they don't have one.

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 12:22 PM Nick Andrews  wrote:

> Wiat, that's not $180 for the unassembled kit surely...
>
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 10:08 AM Jeffry P  wrote:
>
>> Has anyone bought on of these clocks?
>>
>> Classic Vintage IN-12 Nixie Tube Clock Round Glass Case / Assembled W/
>> DIY Kit | eBay
>> 
>>
>> I'm trying to download the instructions/assembly manual and the links
>> they gave are in Chinese. Here are the links they sent.
>>
>> https://pan.baidu.com/s/19tw8c2bqBgjVECLHugX29A
>> extraction code: 41q3
>>
>> https://pan.baidu.com/s/1GjSAboxjCL1KZLUKqT-wKA
>> extraction code:TP4A
>>
>> Any help is appreciated. Thank you,
>>
>> Jeffry
>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: ebay DIY clock

[Jeffry Portell]

Yes I got the schematic but that's a far cry from the other steps needed
into making the parts into a functional clock.

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 10:59 AM Joe Croft  wrote:

> Looks very nice. If I didn't have other irons already in the fire, I would
> consider buying one.
>
> I suspect it will be painful to build. With that said, and not being able
> to download the PDF (it wanted to download and install acrobat), The
> schematic seems complete enough you could build it from that. The hard part
> will be all of those lovely bends!
>
> -joe
>
>
> On Fri, 2021-06-04 at 08:13 -0700, Paul Andrews wrote:
>
> If you use Chrome, you can use the google translate plugin on a PC. On an
> iPhone, Chrome will automatically offer to translate.
>
> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 11:08:56 AM UTC-4 Jeffry P wrote:
>
> Has anyone bought on of these clocks?
>
> Classic Vintage IN-12 Nixie Tube Clock Round Glass Case / Assembled W/ DIY
> Kit | eBay
> 
>
> I'm trying to download the instructions/assembly manual and the links they
> gave are in Chinese. Here are the links they sent.
>
> https://pan.baidu.com/s/19tw8c2bqBgjVECLHugX29A
> extraction code: 41q3
>
> https://pan.baidu.com/s/1GjSAboxjCL1KZLUKqT-wKA
> extraction code:TP4A
>
> Any help is appreciated. Thank you,
>
> Jeffry
>
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