Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie Sockets (humor)
That makes sense. Although it could be a user entry mistake, I have seen recent multi-currency bugs on eBay. For example, on the auction page, I have the winning bid. At the same time, on the summary page, I was outbid. It was for an AU listing on eBay's US site. It appears that the summary page, for the purpose of turning red and alerting me of being outbid, was comparing my max bid in one currency and the current bid in the other currency. However, I have not seen the numbers move enough to be sure about that. On 03/09/2015 07:28 AM, Fabio Luiz wrote: Or the value is 2 forints. About U$71. Em 08/03/2015 02:58, Matt mc10...@matthewc.net mailto:mc10...@matthewc.net escreveu: I have seen other eBay sellers set an artificially high selling price and say wait for the invoice for the shipping. I have never seen it anywhere near this high before (maybe as much as $200.00 or something). When you get the invoice, you will pay that different amount for shipping. In the description, the seller is asking the buyer to contact them for shipping. It could still be . vs , thing. Different countries use them differently. Personally, I think that it makes more sense to use the one that lays down more ink for the more significant function (setting the decimal point vs. separating the thousands). On 03/07/2015 04:18 PM, Tidak Ada wrote: Or he made a mistake in typing and accidentally typed a comma instead of a decimal point... eric *From:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon D. *Sent:* zaterdag 7 maart 2015 21:44 *To:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [neonixie-l] Nixie Sockets (humor) Here's a reasonably priced set of 6 ceramic sockets (Chinese made) for $9 from Hungary. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nixie-tube-sockets-13-pins-Z560-etc-6pcs-China-made-/111615168649?ssPageName=ADME:SS:SS:US:1120 But the shipping is...wait for it...$20,000.00 !!! I guess he's hoping you won't notice the shipping fees. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/54FD87C5.5030009%40matthewc.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Steampunk
True. A *good* (and I stress good) switched mode power supply will become a constant current power supply when you exceed its capacity. So if you short a 12 volt, 2 amp power supply, you will get no more than 2ish amps. If the UL or CE listing is accurate, the power supply may get warm, but that should not be a problem. So to be safe, buy a switched mode power supply that can deliver no more than the amperage that you need. That way, if something shorts in the clock, that is all the power it is going to get, which is hopefully not enough to start a fire. To be sure, you may want to test this. Unfortunately, there are many power supplies on the market that are unsafe for various reasons. Make sure to get one from a reputable source, or have the power supply properly examined. Here are some articles and videos about unsafe power supplies: http://www.righto.com/2012/10/a-dozen-usb-chargers-in-lab-apple-is.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi-b9k-0KfE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_exfmbsPqEI http://hackaday.com/2012/10/10/raspberry-pi-foundation-looks-a-counterfeit-apple-power-supplies/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9wKjZXDPWIt=9m39s (USB power supply begins 9:39 in, ends at 17:52) Also, poorly designed power supplies can add noise to your A/C line or RF interference for nearby devices. Here is one power supply that mostly works, but poor power filtering prevents a specific device from working (while other devices work fine): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wkoxZw53Sk This video explains how a simple switched mode power supply works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmtW_oA1fRo On 02/21/2015 09:54 PM, Jeff Walton wrote: Regarding your concern about the wooden housing: I had an old nixie design that I did in college in the 1970 timeframe. It used voltage doubler circuitry for the nixies and housed a filament transformer for the main power supply, which were all mounted inside the housing. My old design with point to point wiring and discrete devices is dark ages compared to current designs. That clock ran perfectly for over thirty years with a wooden and plexiglass case and was no problem - until 2005 when the voltage doubler shorted and caught fire. It had far more power available inside the housing when things went wrong. I think that the designs from present day with the external power supply (and limited energy) are quite safe to run with wooden enclosures. The power supplies are quite safe and if there was a problem with something, it would most likely not be with the clock itself. On Saturday, January 25, 2014 at 12:10:21 AM UTC-6, Michel wrote: I would feel a bit anxious to leave a wooden clock switched on for say 24 hrs/day, especially if it is not my own design. Just worried it would catch fire at a moment I am asleep or not there. Is that just me or do other people have that same worry? I quite like the design though, not an immediate wow factor as some other clocks, but I wouldn't mind having a clock like this one. Michel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/54E9632D.8040400%40matthewc.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Dalibor's Nixie tube: R|Z568M
Hi Dalibor, Sounds great. I know enough about materials and manufacturing to appreciate what you are building and the prices involved, but for people growing up in today's world of cheap semi-disposable durable goods, that appreciation usually takes a bit of education. Your response sounds like you understood the meaning of that sentence. Basically, I prefer not to see you build a few things under budget, get burnout, and loose interest. I am glad that you are making this project sustainable. For the most part, the DVD option sounds good, but as the music industry has discovered, and the movie industry is discovering, people prefer the instant gratification that only Internet downloads can provide. Besides, 480p (assuming that you meant DVD video instead of DVD data) is awful for video resolution these days. I would think that most people would prefer to view this type of information on their laptop so that they can follow along in their shop. Not all of them have DVD drives these days. 1080p should be the minimum that you distribute. And you are right about crowdfunding being stressful. Most of the time, you need at least one person dedicated towards mangaging the campaign and social aspects of it. And that is not counting the contemptible contributors who take your best guesses for what can get done and when as some kind of pseudo legal commitment. The things I avoid doing just to avoid these type of people... Anyway... Best regards! On 02/14/2015 06:43 AM, Dalibor Farný wrote: Hi Matt, thanks for your time with such a long message, especially for overview of the crowdfunding platforms. First, I am going to make a low-cost documentary, no special effects, just simple, calm video. I have more reasons to make it - I also expect it to spread around the tube lovers (nixie tubes, hifi tubes and so..). It will also show the amount of work and skills needed to make working tubes and justify why few pieces of glass with bent metal sheet cost $1k. It can be said that I consider it a marketing instrument. I want to cover it from my pocket, I dont think it would be right to ask people either for donation or crowdfunding - it is commercial project. I will also make a DVD with more stuff on it then online, so if someone wants to support the work, he will have possibility to buy the DVD. It is your money, but I feel like you might be limiting your future willingness to continue making nixie tubes for others by continuing to subsidize the costs (parts + labor) using your gratefulness to the community. Well, I am not sure if I understand meaning of this sentence. But dont be afraid about this project from the financial point of view, I learned to be cost effective and I know where to set the price so that I can survive and save means for future development. About the money I already spent on it.. Well, I would be satisfied if I am allowed to do this work that I really love, I dont need them immediately back. However, I believe that this is promising project that will enable me to build a small viable company around it. About the crowdfunding in general, I know that it is great help how to sell a lots of products in short time and start the business. However, it is also very demanding to manage the campaign and manufacture this big amount of products in short time. Most of the funded projects ships with significant delay, that brings stress and I dont work much well under stress. If I want to stay motivated and creative, I cant work under stress, deadlines and so.. Best regards! Dalibor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/54DFD089.8010003%40matthewc.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Dalibor's Nixie tube: R|Z568M
It is your money, but I feel like you might be limiting your future willingness to continue making nixie tubes for others by continuing to subsidize the costs (parts + labor) using your gratefulness to the community. Granted, you may never be able to cover all of your labor costs, so this will likely remain a hobby, but if other people are willing to throw money towards a nixie tube documentary, then they should be able to. Then, hopefully, you will let the community enjoy the fruits of your hobby for a little bit longer. If you have the money for the video, then spending it as you see fit is going to be a lot easier than dealing with the general public via a crowd funding campaign. Putting up a donation page after a person watches the video is the least time consuming way to get compensated if all you count is the time spent on potential obligations and refunds. But asking for it beforehand might motivate people more and take advantage of the wide audience that some of these crowd funding sites have. In other words, there might be an opportunity to get more people interested in this viscerally gratifying display technology. To keep this technology alive, it would be advantageous to keep the community size stable or growing. My intention is not to convince you to do anything, but just to put this information out there. Kickstarter would be perfect for raising funds for a documentary. It focuses more on the arts than any other crowd funding site that I know of. The audience there generally expects entertainment, but a howto video might work there. The only problem with it is that it only offers all or nothing funding with an unlimited donation total and a strict deadline for when those donations have to be made. Indiegogo is a little better in that it offers extensions to deadlines when it makes sense to extend the deadline. It also offers flexible funding, which is useful if your project will go ahead regardless of the amount donated. Just to contrast the use of crowd funding: For hardware with multiple quantities, Kickstarter is the worst. Indiegogo is okay, but there are other crowd funding sites that specialize in hardware projects that plan on being sold after the fundraising period ends. crowdsupply.com allows pre-orders after the fundraising period ends and can become a regular store when items are in stock. This is great for ensuring cash flow between the different stages of product development and keeps you from getting distracted from running your own store front. Tindie does not deal with funding, but it is a store for hobbyists. People sell kits, finished products, and excess inventory of component parts. There are already a few people selling nixie stuff there, which many of you may already be familiar with. Although eBay does reach a wider audience. I am generally less hesitant to order from places like eBay and Amazon than small e-commerce sites unless I am more familiar with the company. Etsy has a good homemade crafts audience, which seems like a good fit for selling unique homemade nixie crafts. Anyway, I apologize for the lengthy e-mail. Congratulations on the auction! I was hoping that it would exceed the prices of the Z568M tubes given that these a fresh tubes with a warranty. Of course, the Z568M market may be a little saturated at the moment. Maybe after you get your video out and people start discussing it, you may do even better in your auctions! On 02/13/2015 02:41 PM, Dalibor Farný wrote: Thanks guys, I am just grateful to community for helping me with the start and so.. I want to pay back for it, and showing what I've discovered might be good idea.. Regards, Dalibor 2015-02-13 18:25 GMT+01:00 jb-electronics webmas...@jb-electronics.de: Well put, Nick, I completely agree! Jens Nick n...@desmith.net hat am 13. Februar 2015 um 16:29 geschrieben: On Friday, 13 February 2015 14:12:21 UTC, Dalibor wrote: ...As for the auction, the price exceeded my expectations and it would be good if it stays there for some time of course ;-) Hey - you deserve every last cent you can get - you've got several of us interested in the possibility of having a go, re-discovered and implemented the technology, and have produced wonderful work !! Cheers Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/f71ffc1f-9dd6-4841-a169-8beebef56ea4%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Itching to build...
There are three things that are stopping me from building my own clock: 1) I only like simple shinny metal and glass, neither of which I can build or design on my own. 2) I only would consider direct drive circuits. If I needed to reduce the brightness, I would PWM it myself, but I do not want the multiplex circuit limiting the maximum brightness. 3) Time. Creating a direct drive PCB from scratch is a bit much. I would prefer a simple Arduino shield or daughter board, but it is difficult to find something that is direct drive and in a form factor that is appropriate for a clock. I would prefer something using https://pinocc.io/ so that I can get time from NTP instead of GPS. On 02/08/2015 03:34 PM, blave wrote: Sorry to throw out a link, but I wanted to make sure you're aware of this nixie shield for the Arduino: http://arduinix.com/ I have built the kit (v1); it went together fine and I ended up debugging some of the crossfade code for the 6-digit daughtercard. I also used the Arduinix for a non-clock application: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kbrIwxNr9g cheers, Dave B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/7d120ea6-4086-4a8a-aca1-7f0f293c7162%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/7d120ea6-4086-4a8a-aca1-7f0f293c7162%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/54D7E62F.2060509%40matthewc.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] 5 x CD27s on eBay...
For the tube on the far right, how long does it take for tubes to darken this badly? http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODMwWDEzNjA=/z/~ywAAOSwGvhUKGl2/$_57.JPG At some point, artisan nixie tubes will be cheaper than some of the largest NOS tubes that rarely show up. Of course, to get a decent service life, either giver pills need to be found or created or there needs to be some other method for adding Hg vapor after the tube is sealed from the vacuum pump. Numeral height: Nixie Rex (panaplex) 457.2mm 18 CD47135mm 5.31 F9020AA 133mm 5.24 GR-311 70mm 2.76 B-7971 63.5mm 2.5 GR10N59.7mm 2.35 CD27 54mm 2.13 NEO-5000 (panaplex) 50mm 1.97 Z568M50mm 1.97 IN-1840mm 1.58 NL8091 35mm 1.38 On 09/29/2014 06:27 AM, Nick wrote: Not my auction - they are rare tubes though... http://www.ebay.com/itm/221561797737 http://www.ebay.com/itm/221561797737%C2%A0 Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/5429E538.80406%40matthewc.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] OT: ShellShock bash shell vulnerability...
On 09/26/2014 05:13 PM, Ben wrote:
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Nick n...@desmith.net
mailto:n...@desmith.net wrote:
its server-side only
Word of advice - don't rely on that. Bash is in a lot of things, from consumer routers to desktop software like Git, Cygwin
various terminal clients. I had three instances of vulnerable bash executables on my Windows desktop, and while the risk of attack
through those vectors may be slim, it can't be ignored.
I would consider a router to be server-side, although most people do not think of them as servers. They are just very tiny,
specialized servers. Some of them do more server stuff then usual, such as acting as print servers and network storage.
Keep in mind what the exploit does. It tricks Bash into running things by modifying the environment. For you to be at risk, you
must first have something untrusted modifying your environment before calling a Bash script. Then, that Bash script must be used in
such a way to have access to something that the original thing that modified the environment did not. Otherwise, this flaw is not
useful.
In other words, this exploit, by itself, does not leak any data. You must first have put Bash in a place of trust between an
untrusted environment and a trusted one. Experienced software administrators and software developers generally know better because
locking down shells requires knowing just about everything about them. Restricted shells exist for this purpose and should be used
for this reason. Unfortunately, not everyone got this warning.
CGI scripts and sudo Bash scripts are the first things that I think of that can place Bash between untrusted and trusted
environments, but sudo already filters the environment by default. For example:
Without sudo:
# env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c 'echo This is a test.'
vulnerable
This is a test.
With sudo:
# env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' sudo bash -c 'echo This is a test.'
This is a test.
If sudo was configured to let environment variables through, then any user that has sudo enabled (usually not on by default unless
you installed the operating system and generally requires your password to use) can run things as root.
So Bash scripts that are run as the same user that called them (and that user normally has access to a shell) are not at risk, which
is why I am not worried about desktop tools that happen to use Bash, such as git.
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[neonixie-l] 74HCT595 shift register in DIP package?
Hi all, My reacquaintance with Nixie's is progressing well and I'm looking at experimenting with driving them via a Raspberry Pi. I know this is complete overkill but it makes for a nice experimentation platform and I'm comfortable with Python (so eases the learning curve!). With this in mind and given the Pi's low GPIO pin count, I want to experiment with shift registers and I believe that the 74HCT595 is suitable for driving via from the Pi's 3.3v logic. However, I'm having difficulty finding this chip in a DIP package. Does anyone know of a source of these shift registers in DIP form (or indeed any equivalents)? Many thanks Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9f062d91-8dea-4061-a24a-325ea5e33b5f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] 74HCT595 shift register in DIP package?
Thanks all for the replies, Research on the web highlighted a couple of people who say they had trouble driving 74HC595 chips from the 3.3v logic outputs on the Pi however this may well be inaccurate - I am get hold of a few and give them a try. They are easily available from Farnell here in the UK. Thanks for the Digikey pointer - if it turns out that I do need 74HCT's then that's a good option although shipping to the UK is a bit of a killer. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/-8262369312823280610%40unknownmsgid. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] 74HCT595 shift register in DIP package?
On 29 Nov 2013, at 16:15, David Forbes dfor...@dakotacom.net Matt, You won't have a problem if you drive the 74HC595 from 3.3V also. It works down to 2V! -- David Forbes, Tucson AZ -- Thanks David, I just took a look at the spec sheets and you are of course absolutely right! That'll teach me to believe random stuff I read on the Internet - doh! Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/-5367200587241146022%40unknownmsgid. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Quick hello
On Wednesday, 27 November 2013 00:14:58 UTC, NeonJohn wrote: On 11/26/2013 06:06 PM, Matt Wetherill wrote: I thought I might try something driven by an Arduino - it'll be quite a learning curve but should keep me busy ;) Hi Matt, Welcome back. Mine may not be a real popular opinion but I do NOT like the Arduino. It's mangled sorta-C++ is a pain, though you can program in C except for some libraries. It's expensive for what you get and quite short on I/O pins. Incidentally, if you just want to play with the Arduino style of doing things, Digikey sells the programmed chip for $5. Just add 5 volts, a TTL serial interface and a clock and there you go. I suggest looking at one of the several chips that have battery-backed RTCs built-in. Get one in DIP format and assemble something on a proto board. BTW, in the next week or two I'm going to be open sourcing (hardware and software) a nifty little count-down counter that I designed for one of our products. It uses the ATmega8515 which isn't a very interesting chip but it has lots of I/O pins which is what I needed. I heavily document my code, especially that which gets released so it would be a good starting point. I'll announce here when I get it finished (boards to be here on Black Friday :-) John Hi John, Thanks for the reply - good to have your advice on this. I'm very new to electronic / microprocessor design - not so bad with coding (I come from an IT background) but I've got a lot of learning to do with regards to hardware :) I guess I'll look out some reference designs and try to build enough understanding to start hacking some stuff together on proto boards. The countdown counter you mention above sounds very interesting - I look forward to reading more about it. cheers Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/ae7f89c9-691f-4ce0-a23e-9e9e25db682b%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Quick hello
On 27 Nov 2013, at 14:03, John Rehwinkel jreh...@mac.com wrote: If I were you, I'd go a step at a time. Looks like you have all you need, aside from an HV supply. First, I'd grab a tube, anode resistor, and one of those driver chips, and try direct driving a single digit. Then I'd add more digits until I ran out of I/O pins. Then I'd either try a shift register as an I/O expander, or look into a multiplexed design using anode switches. But getting that first digit lit is a real thrill! Here's a pic of my first try with an Arduino: http://www.vitriol.com/images/tech/nixies/nixie-firstlight.jpg - John Many thanks John - sound advice about walking before I run! As you say, I'll find an HV powersupply design / schematic, get it built and work on that first digit! Cheers Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/-6785252363072483065%40unknownmsgid. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Fascinating ebay sale ... apparently IN-18 production gear!
It would be nice to see larger tubes put on Kickstarter or Indiegogo so that more people can enjoy them. Also, it would be nice to see other designs made. For example, lasermad.com has an induction powered nixie chess set that uses existing symbols for chess pieces, but how awesome would it be to have the actual chess shapes as in this rendering? http://nxt.flamingo3d.com/photo/nixie-chess-set?context=latest (I am not affiliated with anything mentioned, attached, or linked above) On 05/08/2013 06:18 PM, Adam Jacobs wrote: There definitely has to be a very limited sort of customer base for an auction such as this one. Kind of reminds me of the Polaroid film Impossible Project people.. They bought the old factory, all of the equipment, and even hired back a ton of the employees. I'm still floored that there is enough of a niche customer base for that business to stay afloat. -Adam On 5/8/2013 3:15 PM, Nicholas Stock wrote: Take a look at the question and answer section of the listing...the seller does say that the stamps for the bases are included.with pins This listing has been going for a while now...he's had a few offers that he's declined by the looks of it too.. Nick On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:59 PM, kay486 luckyl...@gmail.com mailto:luckyl...@gmail.com wrote: The tins contain getters actually. But the thing is that most likely they wouldnt be working by now. Also the most important thing that is missing there are the tube bases with the metal to glass seals. You can easily etch the anode grid and cathodes. But you wouldnt be able to make the bases. All in all, there is no wa you would make money on that. It would be just an interesting project to work on. On Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:50:22 UTC+1, bani wrote: What's in the tins? I don't see these in the pics: * grid meshes * digit wire * getters -Dan On Wed, 8 May 2013, dr pepper wrote: Looking at it you'd also need a air compressor and a power press for the press tooling. A visit to the seller would be a good idea to see what is included. Setting up producing those tubes might be profitable, however allthough not absolutely necessary you'd really need to speak to one of the setters or production workers that ran the original production line, so you'd need to speak russian. On 6 May, 11:23, Zedsquared ro...@cqr-ltd.com wrote: This is interesting! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261172534593 I've not got the cash or inclination to buy but would love to hear what people make of this, it's a great insight into what goes on in manufacture. Does anyone know what the green machine with flames does? What's in the cans? (I'd guess getter compound maybe ). Looking at the QA so far it implies that the digits have to be made with the supplied know how ... photo etching techniques and recipies perhaps? Cheers, � � � �Robin. P.S. � �I guess I should introduce myself :) Hi, I'm Robin from the UK, a software and hardware computer guy with a nascent ebay nixie acquisition habit but only a few breadboard rigs actually built yet. Here's hello world from my first PIC and nixie setup: �https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqxDZUYhl2s Day job is RD at a company fitting out emergency service command and control vehicles with tech, weekend job is pyrotechnician with skyburst. I'm currently spending most of my time in bed with a laptop due to a broken ankle, bah! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. attachment: nixiechess2-small.jpg
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sourcing Large Quantities of 5870s Nixies
Maybe you can buy this and manufacture your own nixie's :-) http://www.ebay.com/itm/TECHNOLOGY-for-IN-18-NIXIE-TUBE-PRODUCTION-MATERIALS-equipment-/261172534593 On 03/14/2013 04:53 PM, GastonP wrote: And of course after (and if) the project kicks the price of the IN12's will raise to IN18's levels... Just seeing the IN14 prices skyrocket is enough... Gaston On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:55:18 PM UTC-3, Adam Jacobs wrote: I think that (based on the current supply of nixies), if I was to design and build a new clock right now I would use IN-12's. -Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/pA6qtiAsyOkJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Black'n'Wood Nixie Clock is available
I think that Dieter's latest hobbyist kit is definitely within the scope of hobbyists discussion. He elicited our feedback, which I think that we are willing to discuss. If he did not post it himself, I imagine that another hobbyist would (am I wrong?). Someone who sells only components is not nearly as interesting for our discussion, although I have noticed a lot of posts about unique eBay finds (which I still find interesting). The fact that money will be changing hands shortly does not make it less interesting to someone like myself who enjoys the visceral warm glow of neon digits. That said, I do not speak for anyone other than myself. I am just saying that I welcome that post in my inbox for those reasons and more. You bring up an interesting point by labeling his products as ready built. Although the software on the provided PIC leaves little to be desired for most people, it would be nicer for a more software hobbyist person such as myself to be able to run my own code. But nothing is stopping me from using the case and essential components and substituting an Arduino or something for the brains. For example, I am very interested in using 8 digit Nixies with pinocc.io so that I can do more things with it than just showing the current date and time. A 8 digit version of the IN-18 Blue Dream with a pinocc.io inside would be a dream come true for me. Unfortunately, building enclosures is my weak spot (anyone want to help me with that?), so hearing about new ones is interesting despite that there are ready built electronics available. On 02/02/2013 07:39 PM, Lucky wrote: Hi have great respect for Dieter, even own some of his clocks/boards but for a hobbyists discussion group the words 'Overt' and 'Advertising' come to mind. Especially in light of this comment made before by Nick: Just a polite reminder that this forum is NOT a commercial marketplace - there are other sites for that. Occasional offers for sale, fine; Commercial operation. No. aimed at someone who is willing to supply only 'components' ie tubes And you can't get much more commercial than nocrotec.com/SHOP (Your account http://www.nocrotec.com/shop/account.php | Shopping cart http://www.nocrotec.com/shop/shopping_cart.php | Checkout http://www.nocrotec.com/shop/checkout_shipping.php)! Again no offence to you Dieter and you fine designs of ready built clocks, just saying. ;) Dave On Saturday, 2 February 2013 16:59:15 UTC, Nocrotec wrote: Hi Nixie Friends, The Black'n'Wood Nixie Clock is available now. Check it out: http://www.nocrotec.com/shop/product_info.php/info/p162_Black-n-Wood-Nixie-Clock.html http://www.nocrotec.com/shop/product_info.php/info/p162_Black-n-Wood-Nixie-Clock.html Hope you like it and your comments are welcome as ever. DIETER http://www.nocrotec.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/BRAf_DYTqgsJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[neonixie-l] Re: Fun new video on our work, w/ lots of beautiful Nixie shots
Thanks, Chris Definitely some smart sockets hidden away in the video as well. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/RNhU8svqe4oJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[neonixie-l] Re: Fun new video on our work, w/ lots of beautiful Nixie shots
Thanks, Chris Definitely some smart sockets hidden away in the video as well. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/wX_ykiWfqHoJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[neonixie-l] Fun new video on our work, w/ lots of beautiful Nixie shots
CTV and Ford recently did a short profile of the art+tech work my partner and I do, and within it we talk a bit about and show a couple of Nixie pieces. There's also a beautiful panning shot of the Cathode Corner nixie clock that sits on my desk... (thanks, David Forbes!). Enjoy: http://intersections.ctv.ca/mobile/vid/gorbet_vb500.mp4 (you can see a higher resolution version at http://intersections.ctv.ca but the interface is a bit hard to navigate and you have to watch Ford ads. However there are some other really great profiles on that site to explore.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/zKsL4fIhyLEJ. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
