Re: [neonixie-l] How many push-buttons for settings?

2017-10-12 Thread Nicholas Stock
The more twiddly bits the better in my opinion..but it's just that, an
opinion!

Looks good to me.

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 6:40 AM, Andy Tefft <dryd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> For increasing or decreasing a value, as a user I prefer a knob over
> buttons - it's generally quicker and you don't have to think about schemes
> such as speeding up the increment of change as you hold down the button.
>
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:11 AM, JohnK <yend...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>
>> An aside:  If that board gets buried in a hard to open box, consider
>> "gluing" the clear plastic sides on those 3mm sockets. It sometimes doesn't
>> take very much angled force on the plug [like a cable pull] to pop the side
>> off.
>>
>> John K
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* newxito <axta...@gmail.com>
>> *To:* neonixie-l <neonixie-l@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 12, 2017 10:26 PM
>> *Subject:* [neonixie-l] How many push-buttons for settings?
>>
>> My first clock did not have any buttons because there was nothing to
>> adjust. For my next clock I plan to use 6 buttons. I already made a
>> prototype of the connector PCB.
>>
>> button Menu: navigates through menus, menu numbers are shown on the left
>> nixies
>>
>> button Set: navigates through possible values for a menu, value numbers
>> are shown on the center nixies
>>
>> button Esc: always returns to clock mode
>>
>> button Red, Green and Blue: directly set brightness level if in rgb
>> colors menu. The current level (0-16) is shown on the right nixies.
>>
>>
>>
>> Example:
>>
>> Menu 8 = led mode:
>>
>> Value 1 = off, 2 = constant, 3 = hour, 4 = transition
>>
>> Menu 9 = led colors:
>>
>> Value 0 – 23 = hours, 24 = constant color
>>
>> Level Red 0-16 (shown on right nixies if button
>> Red pressed, press button Red again to adjust to next level)
>>
>> Same for button Blue and Green.
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you think about this? Too many buttons?
>>
>> It’s just a hobby, I don’t sell the clocks but maybe I will give some
>> away to friends and relatives. My experience is that older people (like me)
>> have problems with multi-functional or timed buttons. I think that the Esc
>> button is important if I must give “remote support”.
>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] How many push-buttons for settings?

2017-10-12 Thread Andy Tefft
For increasing or decreasing a value, as a user I prefer a knob over
buttons - it's generally quicker and you don't have to think about schemes
such as speeding up the increment of change as you hold down the button.

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:11 AM, JohnK <yend...@internode.on.net> wrote:

> An aside:  If that board gets buried in a hard to open box, consider
> "gluing" the clear plastic sides on those 3mm sockets. It sometimes doesn't
> take very much angled force on the plug [like a cable pull] to pop the side
> off.
>
> John K
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* newxito <axta...@gmail.com>
> *To:* neonixie-l <neonixie-l@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 12, 2017 10:26 PM
> *Subject:* [neonixie-l] How many push-buttons for settings?
>
> My first clock did not have any buttons because there was nothing to
> adjust. For my next clock I plan to use 6 buttons. I already made a
> prototype of the connector PCB.
>
> button Menu: navigates through menus, menu numbers are shown on the left
> nixies
>
> button Set: navigates through possible values for a menu, value numbers
> are shown on the center nixies
>
> button Esc: always returns to clock mode
>
> button Red, Green and Blue: directly set brightness level if in rgb colors
> menu. The current level (0-16) is shown on the right nixies.
>
>
>
> Example:
>
> Menu 8 = led mode:
>
> Value 1 = off, 2 = constant, 3 = hour, 4 = transition
>
> Menu 9 = led colors:
>
> Value 0 – 23 = hours, 24 = constant color
>
> Level Red 0-16 (shown on right nixies if button
> Red pressed, press button Red again to adjust to next level)
>
> Same for button Blue and Green.
>
>
>
> What do you think about this? Too many buttons?
>
> It’s just a hobby, I don’t sell the clocks but maybe I will give some away
> to friends and relatives. My experience is that older people (like me) have
> problems with multi-functional or timed buttons. I think that the Esc
> button is important if I must give “remote support”.
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] How many push-buttons for settings?

2017-10-12 Thread JohnK
An aside:  If that board gets buried in a hard to open box, consider "gluing" 
the clear plastic sides on those 3mm sockets. It sometimes doesn't take very 
much angled force on the plug [like a cable pull] to pop the side off.

John K
  - Original Message - 
  From: newxito 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 10:26 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] How many push-buttons for settings?


  My first clock did not have any buttons because there was nothing to adjust. 
For my next clock I plan to use 6 buttons. I already made a prototype of the 
connector PCB.

  button Menu: navigates through menus, menu numbers are shown on the left 
nixies

  button Set: navigates through possible values for a menu, value numbers are 
shown on the center nixies

  button Esc: always returns to clock mode

  button Red, Green and Blue: directly set brightness level if in rgb colors 
menu. The current level (0-16) is shown on the right nixies. 



  Example: 

  Menu 8 = led mode: 

  Value 1 = off, 2 = constant, 3 = hour, 4 = transition

  Menu 9 = led colors:

  Value 0 – 23 = hours, 24 = constant color

  Level Red 0-16 (shown on right nixies if button Red 
pressed, press button Red again to adjust to next level)

  Same for button Blue and Green.



  What do you think about this? Too many buttons?

  It’s just a hobby, I don’t sell the clocks but maybe I will give some away to 
friends and relatives. My experience is that older people (like me) have 
problems with multi-functional or timed buttons. I think that the Esc button is 
important if I must give “remote support”.


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[neonixie-l] How many push-buttons for settings?

2017-10-12 Thread newxito
 

My first clock did not have any buttons because there was nothing to 
adjust. For my next clock I plan to use 6 buttons. I already made a 
prototype of the connector PCB.

button Menu: navigates through menus, menu numbers are shown on the left 
nixies

button Set: navigates through possible values for a menu, value numbers are 
shown on the center nixies

button Esc: always returns to clock mode

button Red, Green and Blue: directly set brightness level if in rgb colors 
menu. The current level (0-16) is shown on the right nixies. 

 

Example: 

Menu 8 = led mode: 

Value 1 = off, 2 = constant, 3 = hour, 4 = transition

Menu 9 = led colors:

Value 0 – 23 = hours, 24 = constant color

Level Red 0-16 (shown on right nixies if button Red 
pressed, press button Red again to adjust to next level)

Same for button Blue and Green.

 

What do you think about this? Too many buttons?

It’s just a hobby, I don’t sell the clocks but maybe I will give some away 
to friends and relatives. My experience is that older people (like me) have 
problems with multi-functional or timed buttons. I think that the Esc 
button is important if I must give “remote support”.

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