RE: [neonixie-l] Noble gas 'Neon' Chemical Sympols

[Tidak Ada]

Interesting, but € 75,- is a bit expensive……

 

If I ever could obtain Pb-210.

 

eric

 

 

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Please can somebody trell me where to get those 'neon'-letter chemical symbols 
of noble gases ? I gXeot the symbols for He, Kr and Xe, but are missing just 
those  for Ne and Ar. Futher tha He symbol is told me to be outgassed.

 

I'm guessing you're also missing Ra, but so is everybody else :).

 

Those letters are available from Max Whitby at

 

http://www.periodictable.co.uk/

 

and Jürgen Bauer at

 

http://www.smart-elements.com/

 

- John

 

 

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Re: [neonixie-l] Noble gas 'Neon' Chemical Sympols

[JohnK]

Build a Tesla Coil in the basement?

John K
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  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Noble gas 'Neon' Chemical Sympols


  Lots of basements with radon to spare...  Too bad you can't collect that. 


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  From: A_Nonamus <res0f...@verizon.net> 
  Date: 3/26/2016 10:17 PM (GMT-06:00) 
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  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Noble gas 'Neon' Chemical Sympols 


  I understand that with a half-life of 3.8 days, getting a discharge tube of 
any appreciable size full of it would be problematic to put it mildly. But is 
it possible to closely mimic its spectrum and thus make a "simulated" radon 
tube?

  On Saturday, March 26, 2016 at 11:10:28 AM UTC-7, NeonJohn wrote:
I did leave Rn out but not unintentionally.  I'm not sure enough Rn has 
ever been collected in one spot to fill the letters Rn.  If that was 
possible and the contents added to the tubing, viewing the "Rn" would be 
your dying wish!


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Re: [neonixie-l] Noble gas 'Neon' Chemical Sympols

[Jeff Walton]

Lots of basements with radon to spare...  Too bad you can't collect that. 

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Date: 3/26/2016  10:17 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
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I understand that with a half-life of 3.8 days, getting a discharge tube of any 
appreciable size full of it would be problematic to put it mildly. But is it 
possible to closely mimic its spectrum and thus make a "simulated" radon tube?

On Saturday, March 26, 2016 at 11:10:28 AM UTC-7, NeonJohn wrote:I did leave Rn 
out but not unintentionally.  I'm not sure enough Rn has

ever been collected in one spot to fill the letters Rn.  If that was

possible and the contents added to the tubing, viewing the "Rn" would be

your dying wish!




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Re: [neonixie-l] Noble gas 'Neon' Chemical Sympols

[A_Nonamus]

I understand that with a half-life of 3.8 days, getting a discharge tube of 
any appreciable size full of it would be problematic to put it mildly. But 
is it possible to closely mimic its spectrum and thus make a "simulated" 
radon tube?

On Saturday, March 26, 2016 at 11:10:28 AM UTC-7, NeonJohn wrote:
>
> I did leave Rn out but not unintentionally.  I'm not sure enough Rn has 
> ever been collected in one spot to fill the letters Rn.  If that was 
> possible and the contents added to the tubing, viewing the "Rn" would be 
> your dying wish!
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Noble gas 'Neon' Chemical Sympols

[NeonJohn]

I did leave Rn out but not unintentionally.  I'm not sure enough Rn has
ever been collected in one spot to fill the letters Rn.  If that was
possible and the contents added to the tubing, viewing the "Rn" would be
your dying wish!

Of course, one could sprinkle some Pb-210 into the tube.  That's the
first Radon daughter with a useful half-life (about 22 years.)

That would actually work pretty well, as the remaining daughters decay
with either beta or alpha particles.  Both are good for stimulating
phosphors and neither will penetrate the glass, though a little
Bremsstrahlung X-rays will be produced from the beta particles.

Of course, the tube would not fill with a uniform glow.  There would be
bright speckles everywhere a particle of Pb-210 landed.

John


On 03/26/2016 01:57 PM, gregebert wrote:
> I think you mean Rn (Radon), rather than Ra (Radium).
> 
> 

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Re: [neonixie-l] Noble gas 'Neon' Chemical Sympols

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> I think you mean Rn (Radon), rather than Ra (Radium).

You're right, I realized it after I posted it.

- John

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Re: [neonixie-l] Noble gas 'Neon' Chemical Sympols

[gregebert]

I think you mean Rn (Radon), rather than Ra (Radium).


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Re: [neonixie-l] Noble gas 'Neon' Chemical Sympols

[John Rehwinkel]

> Please can somebody trell me where to get those 'neon'-letter chemical 
> symbols of noble gases ? I gXeot the symbols for He, Kr and Xe, but are 
> missing just those  for Ne and Ar. Futher tha He symbol is told me to be 
> outgassed.

I'm guessing you're also missing Ra, but so is everybody else :).

Those letters are available from Max Whitby at

http://www.periodictable.co.uk/ 

and Jürgen Bauer at

http://www.smart-elements.com/ 

- John


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Re: [neonixie-l] Noble gas 'Neon' Chemical Sympols

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On 03/25/2016 05:33 PM, Tidak Ada wrote:
> Nice Photo's! What is the size of the signs? What I have is about 70×70 mm. 
> Tubing 7,5 mm dia. 
> 
> John:Thanks for the address! I'll contact them...

You're welcome.

In the US, tubing comes in 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 13, 14 and 17mm dia.  Those
are nominal and can vary a bit.  I've seen some weird sizes come out of
the orient and mexico.

Most of his stuff is 2 to 2.5' tall.  The free-standing signs rest on a
plastic base that contains the transformer.  Last year I bought my SIL
(who is ape-shit into flamingos) the cool-ray flamingo - the one with
the blue sunglasses.  It comes up to a little above my knees.

Incidentally, another bender in the same class is Tony Greer.
neongl...@aol.com.  I've begged him for years to put up a website but he
still displays on some general art site.  I think you can find it by
searching his name along with "neon".  He does a lot more blown stuff
than Bill does.

John


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RE: [neonixie-l] Noble gas 'Neon' Chemical Sympols

[Tidak Ada]

Nice Photo's! What is the size of the signs? What I have is about 70×70 mm. 
Tubing 7,5 mm dia. 

John:Thanks for the address! I'll contact them...

eric


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Van: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] Namens 
NeonJohn
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The best neon bender I know is Bill Buth. b...@neonstreet.com.  He can fix you 
right up.

His Etsy shop: https://www.etsy.com/shop/BillieBoi

He will stay in the tube if boro glass is used.  Bill can do that.

Kr is totally boring.

Xe you'll probably want filled to a high enough pressure that it snakes around 
in the tube.  Bill knows all this stuff too.

I'd fix you up but inconveniently, someone stole my neon plant several years 
ago and I haven't been able to replace it.

John


On 03/24/2016 12:50 PM, Tidak Ada wrote:
> Please can somebody trell me where to get those 'neon'-letter chemical 
> symbols of noble gases ? I gXeot the symbols for He, Kr and Xe, but 
> are missing just those  for Ne and Ar. Futher tha He symbol is told me 
> to be outgassed.
> 
> Thanks for any information
> 
> eric
> 

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Re: [neonixie-l] Noble gas 'Neon' Chemical Sympols

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The best neon bender I know is Bill Buth. b...@neonstreet.com.  He can
fix you right up.

His Etsy shop: https://www.etsy.com/shop/BillieBoi

He will stay in the tube if boro glass is used.  Bill can do that.

Kr is totally boring.

Xe you'll probably want filled to a high enough pressure that it snakes
around in the tube.  Bill knows all this stuff too.

I'd fix you up but inconveniently, someone stole my neon plant several
years ago and I haven't been able to replace it.

John


On 03/24/2016 12:50 PM, Tidak Ada wrote:
> Please can somebody trell me where to get those 'neon'-letter chemical 
> symbols of noble gases ? I gXeot the symbols for He, Kr and Xe, but are 
> missing just those  for Ne and Ar. Futher tha He symbol is told me to be 
> outgassed.
> 
> Thanks for any information
> 
> eric
> 

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[neonixie-l] Noble gas 'Neon' Chemical Sympols

[Tidak Ada]

Please can somebody trell me where to get those 'neon'-letter chemical 
symbols of noble gases ? I gXeot the symbols for He, Kr and Xe, but are 
missing just those  for Ne and Ar. Futher tha He symbol is told me to be 
outgassed.

Thanks for any information

eric

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