Re: [neonixie-l] The answer is a lemon
That must have been a lot of fun. I would have enjoyed doing that myself. Ira. On 3/8/2015 10:12 AM, 'Ian Vine' via neonixie-l wrote: In the late 70s as a ten year old, I spent a while drilling a spiral of holes into a12 vinyl album. I have no idea where the plans came from but the idea was to have one side the camera and the other side the output ie at 180 degrees. Did the drilling, got the meccano motor drive working got some light output but enthusiasm fizzled out about there. IanV On 8 Mar 2015, at 16:04, Instrument Resources of America iracosa...@hughes.net mailto:iracosa...@hughes.net wrote: It was easy, but became slightly more complicated when the 'video' from the P.E. cell was transmitted via 'radio' to a receiver at a remote point. At that time the two rotating discs were no longer on the 'same mechanical rotating shaft' but still had be held in sync with each other, therefore requiring an electronic syncronizing system. P.E. cells (some of the actual ones used I have here in my tube collection) were used at the the transmitting end to form the video, and 'neon lamps (some of which I also have here) were as far as I know always used at the receiving end to recreate the video. For those of you who may have even a mild interest in early television, including the Nipkow Disc system please avail yourself of the following site http://www.earlytelevision.org/ When you get there, click on the search button at the top of the page and type in either 'Nipkow' or 'disc'. You can spend literally hours and hours here. Over the years yours truly has collected around 150 vintage televisions, studio cameras and equipment, and more. Now that I'm retired I am actively restoring some of the more historic televisions that I have to operational condition. Hope that everyone enjoys the Early Television site. By the way the first picture ever transmitted via the Nipkow scanning disc system was of Felix The Cat. If anyone has any questions about the Nipkow Scanning Disc system you can ask me, perhaps off of the forum here, and I'll try to answer them as I have a basic knowledge of how it worked, although the Early Television site should answer most questions. The Early Television Site has a 'LOT' of other info and restored televisions to look at. They also are setting a shop to rebuild television picture tubes (C.R.T.'s), which if successful would be the ONLY place on the planet doing so.Ira On 3/8/2015 5:17 AM, Quixotic Nixotic wrote: Looks so easy, mime-attachment John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2BA52535-41A0-4E0A-83D6-0E386550571F%40jsdesign.co.uk https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2BA52535-41A0-4E0A-83D6-0E386550571F%40jsdesign.co.uk?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/54FC7328.5060104%40HUGHES.NET https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/54FC7328.5060104%40HUGHES.NET?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. IRACOSALES.vcf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/269E9BFC-0031-44A8-826D-56C4BBCAB0E1%40yahoo.co.uk https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/269E9BFC-0031-44A8-826D-56C4BBCAB0E1%40yahoo.co.uk?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit
[neonixie-l] The answer is a lemon
Looking through the Television Journal of November 1934, I came across this advertisement. 'May be used in place of any existing Neon Lamp without alteration' caught my eye. I guess that is in the context of a 1934 telly. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/09CEC854-C5D0-4EE9-BB3F-86BB11E5F6C2%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] The answer is a lemon
Look also here: http://www.nbtv.wyenet.co.uk/conv04.htm Dieter - Original Message - From: Tidak Ada To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 12:27 PM Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] The answer is a lemon Never heard about the neon lamps used in early mechanical television? The neon lamp (Neontron®) was used as a light source behind the Nipkow disc. I was in the local museum in Hastings (UK), where I saw that Bayrd TV-machine, that should have also one. But unfortunantely the lamp missed, ashame! http://lampes-et-tubes.info/dlgl/dl195.php?l=e Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Logie_Baird eric -- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Quixotic Nixotic Sent: zondag 8 maart 2015 11:05 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: [neonixie-l] The answer is a lemon Looking through the Television Journal of November 1934, I came across this advertisement. 'May be used in place of any existing Neon Lamp without alteration' caught my eye. I guess that is in the context of a 1934 telly. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/09CEC854-C5D0-4EE9-BB3F-86BB11E5F6C2%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/!%26!AAAYAPDddShx705MuX20yCpp0vvCgAAAEPDQYsTVG6BKuv0EXLc9S1kBAA%3D%3D%40zeelandnet.nl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/5EDEA5B4E0034202B6DD85E03534244B%40workstation. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] The answer is a lemon
On 8 Mar 2015, at 11:27, Tidak Ada wrote: Never heard about the neon lamps used in early mechanical television? The neon lamp (Neontron®) was used as a light source behind the Nipkow disc. No, never. Is it this thing, or is this mercury vapour? John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/7725993D-C53D-458E-85AC-25A2666F0F39%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] The answer is a lemon
Looks so easy, John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2BA52535-41A0-4E0A-83D6-0E386550571F%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] The answer is a lemon
It was easy, but became slightly more complicated when the 'video' from the P.E. cell was transmitted via 'radio' to a receiver at a remote point. At that time the two rotating discs were no longer on the 'same mechanical rotating shaft' but still had be held in sync with each other, therefore requiring an electronic syncronizing system. P.E. cells (some of the actual ones used I have here in my tube collection) were used at the the transmitting end to form the video, and 'neon lamps (some of which I also have here) were as far as I know always used at the receiving end to recreate the video. For those of you who may have even a mild interest in early television, including the Nipkow Disc system please avail yourself of the following site http://www.earlytelevision.org/ When you get there, click on the search button at the top of the page and type in either 'Nipkow' or 'disc'. You can spend literally hours and hours here. Over the years yours truly has collected around 150 vintage televisions, studio cameras and equipment, and more. Now that I'm retired I am actively restoring some of the more historic televisions that I have to operational condition. Hope that everyone enjoys the Early Television site. By the way the first picture ever transmitted via the Nipkow scanning disc system was of Felix The Cat. If anyone has any questions about the Nipkow Scanning Disc system you can ask me, perhaps off of the forum here, and I'll try to answer them as I have a basic knowledge of how it worked, although the Early Television site should answer most questions. The Early Television Site has a 'LOT' of other info and restored televisions to look at. They also are setting a shop to rebuild television picture tubes (C.R.T.'s), which if successful would be the ONLY place on the planet doing so.Ira On 3/8/2015 5:17 AM, Quixotic Nixotic wrote: Looks so easy, John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2BA52535-41A0-4E0A-83D6-0E386550571F%40jsdesign.co.uk https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2BA52535-41A0-4E0A-83D6-0E386550571F%40jsdesign.co.uk?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/54FC7328.5060104%40HUGHES.NET. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. attachment: IRACOSALES.vcf
Re: [neonixie-l] The answer is a lemon
There is a lovely pair of volumes of Television Today [1930s, after acorn valves] , Newnes, (probably weekly and then bound). I absorbed Dad's copies when I was a kid and started a disk Tx and Rx at school. Still have the pieces - waiting for the 'round tuit' I need to complete it. John K Australia [PS. Used bicycle rear sprockets ground down for the synch mechanism] - Original Message - From: Quixotic Nixotic To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] The answer is a lemon Looks so easy, John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2BA52535-41A0-4E0A-83D6-0E386550571F%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/BC0A9254CBFF4D9CA0B47DBEA499BCDF%40compunet4f9da9. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] The answer is a lemon
In the late 70s as a ten year old, I spent a while drilling a spiral of holes into a12 vinyl album. I have no idea where the plans came from but the idea was to have one side the camera and the other side the output ie at 180 degrees. Did the drilling, got the meccano motor drive working got some light output but enthusiasm fizzled out about there. IanV On 8 Mar 2015, at 16:04, Instrument Resources of America iracosa...@hughes.net wrote: It was easy, but became slightly more complicated when the 'video' from the P.E. cell was transmitted via 'radio' to a receiver at a remote point. At that time the two rotating discs were no longer on the 'same mechanical rotating shaft' but still had be held in sync with each other, therefore requiring an electronic syncronizing system. P.E. cells (some of the actual ones used I have here in my tube collection) were used at the the transmitting end to form the video, and 'neon lamps (some of which I also have here) were as far as I know always used at the receiving end to recreate the video. For those of you who may have even a mild interest in early television, including the Nipkow Disc system please avail yourself of the following sitehttp://www.earlytelevision.org/ When you get there, click on the search button at the top of the page and type in either 'Nipkow' or 'disc'. You can spend literally hours and hours here. Over the years yours truly has collected around 150 vintage televisions, studio cameras and equipment, and more. Now that I'm retired I am actively restoring some of the more historic televisions that I have to operational condition. Hope that everyone enjoys the Early Television site. By the way the first picture ever transmitted via the Nipkow scanning disc system was of Felix The Cat. If anyone has any questions about the Nipkow Scanning Disc system you can ask me, perhaps off of the forum here, and I'll try to answer them as I have a basic knowledge of how it worked, although the Early Television site should answer most questions. The Early Television Site has a 'LOT' of other info and restored televisions to look at. They also are setting a shop to rebuild television picture tubes (C.R.T.'s), which if successful would be the ONLY place on the planet doing so.Ira On 3/8/2015 5:17 AM, Quixotic Nixotic wrote: Looks so easy, mime-attachment John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2BA52535-41A0-4E0A-83D6-0E386550571F%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/54FC7328.5060104%40HUGHES.NET. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. IRACOSALES.vcf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/269E9BFC-0031-44A8-826D-56C4BBCAB0E1%40yahoo.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
