Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on?

[Dylan Distasio]

Wow, I guess I should dig out my stock of those (although I think I only
have 6-10) and get listing!  I like the flat tops, but am willing to part
with them for that kind of money.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 10:11 AM Nicholas Stock  wrote:

> 9 x NL900 tubes just sold for $609 on eBay. That is insane. They're
> literally NL840's with a flat top. $609.
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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on?

[Richard Nicewonger]

I absolutely agree and would like to extend that sentiment to Panaplex display 
calculators.

> On Sep 7, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Audrey  wrote:
> 
> Yeah. Especially nixie calculators. I absolutely hate to see those destroyed.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021, 8:09 PM Trumpeter  > wrote:
> Hopefully they don't catch on to all the test equipment with nixies in 
> them...nothing will be spared.  
> 
> On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 9:51:52 AM UTC-7 nickja...@gmail.com 
>  wrote:
> Haha, that was a joke referring to overblown hype.  But construction 
> materials and labor are in short supply in the real world.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 11:46 AM Audrey > wrote:
> I dont think covid is increasing rhe prices of that one tube so 
> dramatically...
> 
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021, 12:45 PM Nick Andrews > wrote:
> It's the new covid math.  Inflated perceptions and values for everything!  
> Seriously, we are estimating construction costs at +40% right now, especially 
> in VA hospitals.  It's insane.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 9:12 AM Nicholas Stock > wrote:
> 9 x NL900 tubes just sold for $609 on eBay. That is insane. They're literally 
> NL840's with a flat top. $609. 
> 
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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on?

[Paul Andrews]

I been buying a Tesla :)

On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 9:24:43 AM UTC-4 Bill Notfaded wrote:

> I did bid on these tubes but the price went way too high.  It's the asian 
> buyer that want to build the "anime clock."  I think I'm going to start a 
> new thread called "What have you been buying lately."  I search still for 
> some deals out there.
>
> Bill
>
> On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 8:24:03 PM UTC-7 Terry Bowman wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Audrey  wrote:
>>
>> Yeah. Especially nixie calculators. I absolutely hate to see those 
>> destroyed.
>>
>>
>> What I'd like to know is what they're pulling all of the used IN-14s out 
>> of.
>>
>>
>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
>> "The Mac Doctor"
>>
>> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>>
>> “...the book said something astonishing, a very big thought. The stars, 
>> it said, were suns but very far away. The Sun was a star but close 
>> up.”—Carl Sagan, "The Backbone Of Night", *Cosmos*, 1980
>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on?

[Bill Notfaded]

I did bid on these tubes but the price went way too high.  It's the asian 
buyer that want to build the "anime clock."  I think I'm going to start a 
new thread called "What have you been buying lately."  I search still for 
some deals out there.

Bill

On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 8:24:03 PM UTC-7 Terry Bowman wrote:

>
> On Sep 7, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Audrey  wrote:
>
> Yeah. Especially nixie calculators. I absolutely hate to see those 
> destroyed.
>
>
> What I'd like to know is what they're pulling all of the used IN-14s out 
> of.
>
>
> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
> "The Mac Doctor"
>
> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>
> “...the book said something astonishing, a very big thought. The stars, it 
> said, were suns but very far away. The Sun was a star but close up.”—Carl 
> Sagan, "The Backbone Of Night", *Cosmos*, 1980
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on?

[Mac Doktor]

> On Sep 7, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Audrey  wrote:
> 
> Yeah. Especially nixie calculators. I absolutely hate to see those destroyed.


What I'd like to know is what they're pulling all of the used IN-14s out of.


Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
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https://www.astarcloseup.com

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said, were suns but very far away. The Sun was a star but close up.”—Carl 
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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on?

[Nick Andrews]

Not when they think they are worth $3-900 on ebay!

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021, 7:11 PM Audrey  wrote:

> Yeah. Especially nixie calculators. I absolutely hate to see those
> destroyed.
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021, 8:09 PM Trumpeter  wrote:
>
>> Hopefully they don't catch on to all the test equipment with nixies in
>> them...nothing will be spared.
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 9:51:52 AM UTC-7 nickja...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Haha, that was a joke referring to overblown hype.  But construction
>>> materials and labor are in short supply in the real world.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 11:46 AM Audrey  wrote:
>>>
 I dont think covid is increasing rhe prices of that one tube so
 dramatically...

 On Tue, Sep 7, 2021, 12:45 PM Nick Andrews  wrote:

> It's the new covid math.  Inflated perceptions and values for
> everything!  Seriously, we are estimating construction costs at +40% right
> now, especially in VA hospitals.  It's insane.
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 9:12 AM Nicholas Stock 
> wrote:
>
>> 9 x NL900 tubes just sold for $609 on eBay. That is insane. They're
>> literally NL840's with a flat top. $609.
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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on?

[Audrey]

Yeah. Especially nixie calculators. I absolutely hate to see those
destroyed.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021, 8:09 PM Trumpeter  wrote:

> Hopefully they don't catch on to all the test equipment with nixies in
> them...nothing will be spared.
>
> On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 9:51:52 AM UTC-7 nickja...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Haha, that was a joke referring to overblown hype.  But construction
>> materials and labor are in short supply in the real world.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 11:46 AM Audrey  wrote:
>>
>>> I dont think covid is increasing rhe prices of that one tube so
>>> dramatically...
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021, 12:45 PM Nick Andrews  wrote:
>>>
 It's the new covid math.  Inflated perceptions and values for
 everything!  Seriously, we are estimating construction costs at +40% right
 now, especially in VA hospitals.  It's insane.

 On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 9:12 AM Nicholas Stock 
 wrote:

> 9 x NL900 tubes just sold for $609 on eBay. That is insane. They're
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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on?

[Trumpeter]

Hopefully they don't catch on to all the test equipment with nixies in 
them...nothing will be spared.  

On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 9:51:52 AM UTC-7 nickja...@gmail.com wrote:

> Haha, that was a joke referring to overblown hype.  But construction 
> materials and labor are in short supply in the real world.
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 11:46 AM Audrey  wrote:
>
>> I dont think covid is increasing rhe prices of that one tube so 
>> dramatically...
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021, 12:45 PM Nick Andrews  wrote:
>>
>>> It's the new covid math.  Inflated perceptions and values for 
>>> everything!  Seriously, we are estimating construction costs at +40% right 
>>> now, especially in VA hospitals.  It's insane.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 9:12 AM Nicholas Stock  wrote:
>>>
 9 x NL900 tubes just sold for $609 on eBay. That is insane. They're 
 literally NL840's with a flat top. $609. 


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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on?

[Nick Andrews]

Haha, that was a joke referring to overblown hype.  But construction
materials and labor are in short supply in the real world.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 11:46 AM Audrey  wrote:

> I dont think covid is increasing rhe prices of that one tube so
> dramatically...
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021, 12:45 PM Nick Andrews  wrote:
>
>> It's the new covid math.  Inflated perceptions and values for
>> everything!  Seriously, we are estimating construction costs at +40% right
>> now, especially in VA hospitals.  It's insane.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 9:12 AM Nicholas Stock 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 9 x NL900 tubes just sold for $609 on eBay. That is insane. They're
>>> literally NL840's with a flat top. $609.
>>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on?

[Audrey]

I dont think covid is increasing rhe prices of that one tube so
dramatically...

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021, 12:45 PM Nick Andrews  wrote:

> It's the new covid math.  Inflated perceptions and values for everything!
> Seriously, we are estimating construction costs at +40% right now,
> especially in VA hospitals.  It's insane.
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 9:12 AM Nicholas Stock  wrote:
>
>> 9 x NL900 tubes just sold for $609 on eBay. That is insane. They're
>> literally NL840's with a flat top. $609.
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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on?

[Nick Andrews]

It's the new covid math.  Inflated perceptions and values for everything!
Seriously, we are estimating construction costs at +40% right now,
especially in VA hospitals.  It's insane.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 9:12 AM Nicholas Stock  wrote:

> 9 x NL900 tubes just sold for $609 on eBay. That is insane. They're
> literally NL840's with a flat top. $609.
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[neonixie-l] What is going on?

[Nicholas Stock]

9 x NL900 tubes just sold for $609 on eBay. That is insane. They're
literally NL840's with a flat top. $609.

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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on with IN18 tubes?

[Greg P]

Make your clock, Terry.  IN-18 prices haven't stopped Pete of PV 
Electronics from selling a boatload of his kits.  And Dieter has sold out 
of his IN-18 clock as well.  


On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 4:38:51 PM UTC-5, Terry S wrote:
>
> Actually, if you watch ebay, very few are selling. Lots of auctions but 
> few close with a sale. The price may come back to something more reasonable.
>
> The dollar is very strong right now, it should translate to lower prices.
>
> And of course, the IN-18 is not a commodity. It's a scarce resource that 
> is not in production. Over time the price can only average up. Demand can 
> drive the price up, but supply can never really drive it down, unless a 
> huge hoard is revealed. 
>
> I started designing my Arduino based IN-18 clock a year ago. Tubes were 
> about $30 then. I took a hiatus from that design and recently picked it up 
> again, but it may not be worth finishing. I have my own personal stash of 
> tubes, but not enough to sell kits. Do I make the PCBs and write code for 
> just a few clocks? I'm not sure if the market will bear the cost of clocks 
> with a $350 tube price.
>
> Terry
>
> On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 3:27:00 PM UTC-6, gregebert wrote:
>
>> On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 1:15:30 PM UTC-8, William Lee wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, if we're talking about US dollars, it has been going up 
>>> against other currencies for the most part.
>>>
>>>
>> I think it's more a matter of supply vs demand; people are apparently 
>> willing to pay $350 US for six IN-18's on Ebay. There has been a roughly 
>> 20% drop in the value of  Hryvnia versus the dollar over the past few 
>> months, so the cost of IN-18's should actually be *decreasing* rather 
>> than increasing.
>>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on with IN18 tubes?

[Michail1 via neonixie-l]

Wow,
 
Guess it's time for me to start posting them although I only have a  box.  
:)
 
RE: Few being sold?
I see one auction that has sold 4 sets of the $350 batch and another sold  
18 sets at the $350 price.  So, seems strong the price has gone up.
 
Michail 
 
 

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I think  it's more a matter of supply vs demand; people are apparently 
willing to pay  $350 US for six IN-18's on  Ebay.

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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on with IN18 tubes?

[kosbo.com]

On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 9:34:02 PM UTC, Greg P wrote:
>
> Or maybe the supply is finally drying up after all these years?  I doubt 
> it as there seems to be unlimited supply of these.  I'd assume it's more 
> price fixing by the (to quote the late Jeff Thomas) "Ukrainian Tube Cartel".
>
>
>
Yes, looks like you are right. I regular buy IN-18 tubes for my clocks, but 
within last 3-4 month, I can not find good  (NOS) IN-18 tubes in Russia or 
Ukraine, spoke to a few Ukrainian  suppliers, they said IN-18 tubes are not 
easy to find...

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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on with IN18 tubes?

['Terry S' via neonixie-l]

Actually, if you watch ebay, very few are selling. Lots of auctions but few 
close with a sale. The price may come back to something more reasonable.

The dollar is very strong right now, it should translate to lower prices.

And of course, the IN-18 is not a commodity. It's a scarce resource that is 
not in production. Over time the price can only average up. Demand can 
drive the price up, but supply can never really drive it down, unless a 
huge hoard is revealed. 

I started designing my Arduino based IN-18 clock a year ago. Tubes were 
about $30 then. I took a hiatus from that design and recently picked it up 
again, but it may not be worth finishing. I have my own personal stash of 
tubes, but not enough to sell kits. Do I make the PCBs and write code for 
just a few clocks? I'm not sure if the market will bear the cost of clocks 
with a $350 tube price.

Terry

On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 3:27:00 PM UTC-6, gregebert wrote:

> On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 1:15:30 PM UTC-8, William Lee wrote:
>>
>> Actually, if we're talking about US dollars, it has been going up against 
>> other currencies for the most part.
>>
>>
> I think it's more a matter of supply vs demand; people are apparently 
> willing to pay $350 US for six IN-18's on Ebay. There has been a roughly 
> 20% drop in the value of  Hryvnia versus the dollar over the past few 
> months, so the cost of IN-18's should actually be *decreasing* rather 
> than increasing.
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on with IN18 tubes?

[Greg P]

Or maybe the supply is finally drying up after all these years?  I doubt it 
as there seems to be unlimited supply of these.  I'd assume it's more price 
fixing by the (to quote the late Jeff Thomas) "Ukrainian Tube Cartel".



On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 4:27:00 PM UTC-5, gregebert wrote:
>
> On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 1:15:30 PM UTC-8, William Lee wrote:
>>
>> Actually, if we're talking about US dollars, it has been going up against 
>> other currencies for the most part.
>>
>>
> I think it's more a matter of supply vs demand; people are apparently 
> willing to pay $350 US for six IN-18's on Ebay. There has been a roughly 
> 20% drop in the value of  Hryvnia versus the dollar over the past few 
> months, so the cost of IN-18's should actually be *decreasing* rather 
> than increasing.
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on with IN18 tubes?

[gregebert]

On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 1:15:30 PM UTC-8, William Lee wrote:
>
> Actually, if we're talking about US dollars, it has been going up against 
> other currencies for the most part.
>
>
I think it's more a matter of supply vs demand; people are apparently 
willing to pay $350 US for six IN-18's on Ebay. There has been a roughly 
20% drop in the value of  Hryvnia versus the dollar over the past few 
months, so the cost of IN-18's should actually be *decreasing* rather than 
increasing.

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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on with IN18 tubes?

[Instrument Resources of America]

A wheelbarrow, full of $$,  just might buy you one loaf of 
bread  Ira.


On 2/1/2016 1:15 PM, chuck richards wrote:

Yep, it's currency devaluation.  Welcome to hyperinflation.
Weimar Republic, ca 1935, here we come!




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To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on with IN18 tubes?
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 16:06:19 -0500


Yeah!

The problem is that the value of the dollar is going down faster

than the

price of the tubes going up.   So, it's about the same.:)

Michail


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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on with IN18 tubes?

[Nicholas Stock]

I haven't noticed a similar increase in other tubes from Russia/Ukraineit's 
more than just currency fluctuations perhaps?

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> On Feb 1, 2016, at 13:06, Michail1 via neonixie-l 
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> Yeah!
>  
> The problem is that the value of the dollar is going down faster than the 
> price of the tubes going up.   So, it's about the same.   :)
>  
> Michail
>  
> In a message dated 2/1/2016 1:04:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on with IN18 tubes?

[Dylan Distasio]

Actually, if we're talking about US dollars, it has been going up against
other currencies for the most part.

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> Yeah!
>
> The problem is that the value of the dollar is going down faster than the
> price of the tubes going up.   So, it's about the same.   :)
>
> Michail
>
> In a message dated 2/1/2016 1:04:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on with IN18 tubes?

[chuck richards]

Yep, it's currency devaluation.  Welcome to hyperinflation.
Weimar Republic, ca 1935, here we come!


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>>Yeah!
>> 
>>The problem is that the value of the dollar is going down faster
>than the  
>>price of the tubes going up.   So, it's about the same.:)
>> 
>>Michail  
>> 
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>>In a message dated 2/1/2016 1:04:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
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Re: [neonixie-l] What is going on with IN18 tubes?

[Michail1 via neonixie-l]

Yeah!
 
The problem is that the value of the dollar is going down faster than the  
price of the tubes going up.   So, it's about the same.:)
 
Michail  
 

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[neonixie-l] What is going on with IN18 tubes?

[Nicholas Stock]

Anybody else noted that the prices of IN18's are going north in a hurry?

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