Re: [NetBehaviour] Attestation: Thinking the Period of Inser(r)sections

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Hi Paul,

Ironically, I subscribe to the Nation. The difference I think, which I
emphasize (although I'm not writing a theoretical discourse, I don't have
one), is that 9/11 was a clarity, almost a clarification; the current
situation in Gaza/Hamas/Israel is much messier, a history which bleeds,
which has never been containable (when I was in Israel in 1960 or so, our
boat on the Galil was shot at by Syrians from a distance which rendered the
shooting useless), which is blurred and potentially violent (elsewhere I've
written about an Arab friend of ours in 1962 or 63, when he took us to
Nazareth as a kindness, and disappeared in a violent situation) -- this
'pumping up beyond hysteria' in a sense I think is almost the opposite,
something that was simmering for decades, that was always already
incontrovertible, that portends/ed inconceivable tragedy, and so forth. I
saw this, had a letter published in the Jerusalem Post at that time about
this.. I never felt anything about the hysteria, it was always or never
pumped up, it was always already there (I was living in the  Hebrew
University dorms, my roommate was an Israeli spy, when something occurred -
a house being blown up in the distance, I asked him what was going on, he
said Where, I pointed to the house in question, he said Where, there's
nothing there, and so forth, and in a dark sense what's occurring now
almost has to have occurred, it was always there (as far as I could tell,
as far as I can tell)). The cutting off of essentials in Gaza is horrible,
the massacres are horrible, the rockets are horrible, the hatreds have been
increasing - Netanyahu/Trump, Netanyahu and anyone, his continuing
provocations (re for example El Aksa Mosque), I have always expected
better. Fwiw, my mother was VP of International Hadassah and made
diplomatic trips to Russia, to Egypt, all through Israel, arguing for peace
all the way back (met with Sadat's wife, Israeli Prime Ministers I believe
as well, Refusniks, etc., I have her documents here), and nothing came of
it. Hatred is everywhere and everyone is reaping the results. The liberal
Judaism in NYC for example, seemed to have disappeared when I lived there;
Brooklyn Jews were migrating to Israel, the Ultra-Orthodox, I could go on
but  - anyway I feel hopeless about the situation, this was always ready to
explode and explode it has, and it's inconceivably tragic for everyone, as
I said above, the fury a long time coming... My god (not literally),
Netanyahu and the far Israeli right, a marriage made in hell, dragging
everything down with it, fertile ground for Hamas... I have no answers, I
see no answers (a highschool friend of mine btw is a career diplomat who
has been dealing with the situation for real, not like my bull), what's
happening in a way is a 'pure or impure occurrence' that will play out. and
out and out in violence and brutality beyond exhaustion. Apologies for the
length of the reply, and I may well be wrong here of course, or on the
wrong track. - I'm far too distraught over all of this, the Nation
notwithstanding -

Best, Alan

On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 10:14 PM Paul Hertz via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> Reading your text on NetBehaviour ++ wondering at 'absolute terror on both
> sides' yes but also the locking out of consideration that it could be
> otherwise, the contrasting of opinions theirs and ours, supposedly, pumped
> up beyond hysteria. Remembering what a calamity the reaction to the attack
> on the WTC brought.
>
> https://www.thenation.com/article/world/israel-us-911-lessons/
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2023, 5:35 PM Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Attestation: Thinking the Period of Inser(r)sections
>>
>> mung: http://www.alansondheim.org/mung.jpg
>>
>> I'm sitting here wondering whether this is This were a moment to
>> take or to pause and to look at what's going on around us I
>> wonder how far we would get and thinking through what is
>> occurring elsewhere in the world and who's at fault going to
>> take or not. Take it doesn't seem it's going to take it all. It
>> doesn't look like voice. does seem to take into And how does one
>> assign fault how can fault be assigned when what is occurring is
>> absolute terror absolute annihilation on all sides . It is not a
>> question at this point about who is to blame, it is a question
>> of what can be done so that people can live in peace everywhere
>> at least for a little bit of the time we have left.  account
>> everything that I'm writing and how I'm writing. It period when
>> I'm worried about is the way that I am having gaps. Excuse me,
>> excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. Excuse me, the way I'm having
>> gaps in the day that I cannot account for period The gap was
>> usually just a few seconds or a minute. But I'm wondering if
>> this has to do with the decay of plaques I am a selfish person,
>> I am an inconceivably selfish person I don't know how to 

Re: [NetBehaviour] Attestation: Thinking the Period of Inser(r)sections

[Paul Hertz via NetBehaviour]

Reading your text on NetBehaviour ++ wondering at 'absolute terror on both
sides' yes but also the locking out of consideration that it could be
otherwise, the contrasting of opinions theirs and ours, supposedly, pumped
up beyond hysteria. Remembering what a calamity the reaction to the attack
on the WTC brought.

https://www.thenation.com/article/world/israel-us-911-lessons/



On Wed, Oct 11, 2023, 5:35 PM Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

>
>
> Attestation: Thinking the Period of Inser(r)sections
>
> mung: http://www.alansondheim.org/mung.jpg
>
> I'm sitting here wondering whether this is This were a moment to
> take or to pause and to look at what's going on around us I
> wonder how far we would get and thinking through what is
> occurring elsewhere in the world and who's at fault going to
> take or not. Take it doesn't seem it's going to take it all. It
> doesn't look like voice. does seem to take into And how does one
> assign fault how can fault be assigned when what is occurring is
> absolute terror absolute annihilation on all sides . It is not a
> question at this point about who is to blame, it is a question
> of what can be done so that people can live in peace everywhere
> at least for a little bit of the time we have left.  account
> everything that I'm writing and how I'm writing. It period when
> I'm worried about is the way that I am having gaps. Excuse me,
> excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. Excuse me, the way I'm having
> gaps in the day that I cannot account for period The gap was
> usually just a few seconds or a minute. But I'm wondering if
> this has to do with the decay of plaques I am a selfish person,
> I am an inconceivably selfish person I don't know how to respond
> and I want to do something that would make a difference. But all
> I can do is defer that making a difference. Going back to some
> antiquated version of deconstruction that no longer holds
> anywhere at all.  or the presence of plax in my brain, which is
> something that has never occurred before, but might be the
> result of COVID period. I'm searching for answers and I have a
> great deal of fear period part of this is due to the conflict
> now going on It's no longer what can be done or what is there to
> do but it is what can be transmitted and what can be received.
> How we can transmit or receive anything in this situation which
> is occluded by so many violent and the absolute ideologies
> everywhere.  in the Middle East which I cannot get my head
> around. There are too many elements in it too many things that I
> believe in too many people that I believe in one way or another
> and they all are in conflict with each other. Are they or are
> they not. The mind is attempts to deal with these sorts of
> contradictions and is falling far short of it period I have
> friends everywhere, and Violent ideologies everywhere when the
> temperature is rising across the entire planet when refugees are
> becoming streams and rivers from one or another country to
> another country or dispersions everywhere. What can be done when
> populations are going beyond the carrying capacity of local
> communities of governments of the world as a whole period what
> can be done when for example annihilation is always already to
> the limit.  this kind of thing is destructive period it doesn't
> take much for the mind to destroy the mind period. I wonder if
> I'm lying to myself. I'm not just forced to alling yet another
> piece of music or another ragged video tape that I would do
> period I find my mind is extraordinarily CLEAR in terms of
> philosophical Questions to the extent that I've ever been able
> to inhabit those realms PERIOD but now things seem Different
> PERIOD Now things seem as It's as if nothing can be done not
> that there is nothing to be done but nothing can be done. We are
> surrounded by the brackets in our lives that we ourselves have
> created. We are surrounded by occlusions by travesties by
> railroad tracks going nowhere. We are living in the midst of the
> debris of that civilization which we alone have created we are
> living in the midst in other words of our own debris it's just
> that our own debris.  if none of that matters anymore period but
> I do know it matters period I know I'll go on period I will go
> on by Golly. I will go on period I will go on forever period!!!
> I will sign out now leave you with the ruins. The ruins of
> our culture and what can be said and what can't be said. What
> can be said is what I said decades and decades ago and I attest
> to now ;: annihilation to the limit. That is what there is
> that's what can be said until the limit is reached and we are
> already surpassing our own expectations in that regard.  Thank
> you period.  Tap to Pause. Subjunctive.
>
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[NetBehaviour] Attestation: Thinking the Period of Inser(r)sections

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Attestation: Thinking the Period of Inser(r)sections

mung: http://www.alansondheim.org/mung.jpg

I'm sitting here wondering whether this is This were a moment to
take or to pause and to look at what's going on around us I
wonder how far we would get and thinking through what is
occurring elsewhere in the world and who's at fault going to
take or not. Take it doesn't seem it's going to take it all. It
doesn't look like voice. does seem to take into And how does one
assign fault how can fault be assigned when what is occurring is
absolute terror absolute annihilation on all sides . It is not a
question at this point about who is to blame, it is a question
of what can be done so that people can live in peace everywhere
at least for a little bit of the time we have left.  account
everything that I'm writing and how I'm writing. It period when
I'm worried about is the way that I am having gaps. Excuse me,
excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. Excuse me, the way I'm having
gaps in the day that I cannot account for period The gap was
usually just a few seconds or a minute. But I'm wondering if
this has to do with the decay of plaques I am a selfish person,
I am an inconceivably selfish person I don't know how to respond
and I want to do something that would make a difference. But all
I can do is defer that making a difference. Going back to some
antiquated version of deconstruction that no longer holds
anywhere at all.  or the presence of plax in my brain, which is
something that has never occurred before, but might be the
result of COVID period. I'm searching for answers and I have a
great deal of fear period part of this is due to the conflict
now going on It's no longer what can be done or what is there to
do but it is what can be transmitted and what can be received.
How we can transmit or receive anything in this situation which
is occluded by so many violent and the absolute ideologies
everywhere.  in the Middle East which I cannot get my head
around. There are too many elements in it too many things that I
believe in too many people that I believe in one way or another
and they all are in conflict with each other. Are they or are
they not. The mind is attempts to deal with these sorts of
contradictions and is falling far short of it period I have
friends everywhere, and Violent ideologies everywhere when the
temperature is rising across the entire planet when refugees are
becoming streams and rivers from one or another country to
another country or dispersions everywhere. What can be done when
populations are going beyond the carrying capacity of local
communities of governments of the world as a whole period what
can be done when for example annihilation is always already to
the limit.  this kind of thing is destructive period it doesn't
take much for the mind to destroy the mind period. I wonder if
I'm lying to myself. I'm not just forced to alling yet another
piece of music or another ragged video tape that I would do
period I find my mind is extraordinarily CLEAR in terms of
philosophical Questions to the extent that I've ever been able
to inhabit those realms PERIOD but now things seem Different
PERIOD Now things seem as It's as if nothing can be done not
that there is nothing to be done but nothing can be done. We are
surrounded by the brackets in our lives that we ourselves have
created. We are surrounded by occlusions by travesties by
railroad tracks going nowhere. We are living in the midst of the
debris of that civilization which we alone have created we are
living in the midst in other words of our own debris it's just
that our own debris.  if none of that matters anymore period but
I do know it matters period I know I'll go on period I will go
on by Golly. I will go on period I will go on forever period!!!
I will sign out now leave you with the ruins. The ruins of
our culture and what can be said and what can't be said. What
can be said is what I said decades and decades ago and I attest
to now ;: annihilation to the limit. That is what there is
that's what can be said until the limit is reached and we are
already surpassing our own expectations in that regard.  Thank
you period.  Tap to Pause. Subjunctive.

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Book release Being Human . een bloemlezing . an anthology (Annie Abrahams)

[Johannes Birringer via NetBehaviour]

Yes, congratulations to you, Annie, for the book and for exhibiting in the
show "Reboot" (ominous title!)
Is your book in English or in Dutch? How is the contents of the book (the
poems) related to your
telematic performance work?

with regards
Johannes


>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 13:02:40 +0200
>> From: Helen Varley Jamieson 
>> To: netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org
>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Book release Being Human . een bloemlezing
>> . an anthology
>> Message-ID:
>> <25ebcdb9-abe0-4db4-8af6-8424c1879...@creative-catalyst.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>>
>> congratulations, annie! ?
>>
>> On 02.10.23 12:05, Annie Abrahams via NetBehaviour wrote:
>> >
>> > *Can the essence of a website called /Being Human/ created between
>> > 1997 and 2007, be translated into a book in 2023?*
>> >
>> > I am very happy and proud to announce the release of my book
>> > /*Being Human . een bloemlezing . an anthology*/**
>> > The book is part of the exhibition /REBOOT
>> > :
>>
>> > Pioneering Digital Art/ at the Nieuwe Instituut in Rotterdam.
>> >
>> > It contains *44 poems*, a *Fore Words* by Erika F?l?p, an *Ad Verbs*
>> > by me. The graphic design is by Alexandre Leray.
>> >
>> > A book as a derivative of something that is gone, which at least, now
>> > can no longer be experienced as in the time when it was made. ...
>> > /Being Human/ has always been a linguistic universe, in which
>> > different voices, languages, poems, codes and variables mingle into a
>> > labyrinthine whole. And so it appeared a challenge and logical to me
>> > to try to capture /Being Human/ into a book, into a collection of
>> poetry.
>> >
>> > "/A fantastic and fascinating semiotic mess.
>> > It is text. Type undefined.
>> > We bounce back and forth between languages that we understand and
>> > others we don't, between ourselves and others, between humans and the
>> > space between them, caught in the interface that connects and
>> > separates them and us/." *Erika F?l?p*.
>> >
>> > The book costs *24 euro* and will be *for sale* at NAI Booksellers
>> > (NAi Boekverkopers) in Rotterdam (next to the Nieuwe Insttuut). You
>> > can also order one with me for 24 euro + porto.
>> > ISBN: 978909037631, 160 pages, A5, hardcover.
>> >
>> > With thanks to: LI-MA, Amsterdam; the Nieuwe Instituut, Rotterdam and
>> > the Jaap Harten Fonds, Den Haag.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Opening /REBOOT
>> > :
>>
>> > Pioneering Digital Art,/
>> >
>> > *Saturday October 7 *
>> > Nieuwe Instituut, Rotterdam.
>> > Free entrance, Sign up HERE
>> > <
>> https://www.eventbrite.nl/e/tickets-opening-reboot-baanbrekende-digitale-kunst-713722331707
>> >.
>> >
>> > Exposition *8/10/2023 ? 1/04/2024*
>> > Twenty ground-breaking digital artworks from the Netherlands, which
>> > helped define our societal relationships with technology, are on
>> > display, alongside new works by ten makers who take inspiration from
>> > them in looking towards the future.
>> >
>> > Works by *Annie Abrahams*, Livinus and Jeep van de Bundt, Driessens &
>> > Verstappen, Edward Ihnatowicz, JODI, Bas van Koolwijk, Lancel/Maat,
>> > Jan Robert Leegte, Yvonne Le Grand, Peter Luining, Martine Neddam,
>> > Marnix de Nijs and Edwin van der Heide, Dick Raaijmakers, Joost
>> > Rekveld, Remko Scha, Jeffrey Shaw, Debra Solomon, Steina, Peter
>> > Struycken, and Michel Waisvisz. *Contemporary responses* by Janilda
>> > Bartolomeu, Cihad Caner, Dries Depoorter, Swendeline Ersilia, Ali
>> > Eslami, Jonas Lund, Luna Maurer and Roel Wouters, Katja Novitskova,
>> > Ekim Tan, and brui5er.
>> >
>> > Curators: *Sanneke Huisman* of LI-MA and *Klaas Kuitenbrouwer* of
>> > Nieuwe Instituut.
>> >
>> > *Being Human* will be presented as:
>> > A projection of /BramTV/, *2005* (*online* version)
>> > Three screens with /BramTV/ /special Collection 1, 2 and 3/, *2006*
>> > (*offline* stand alone version)
>> > And a poetry *book*: /Being Human . een bloemlezing . an anthology/,
>> > *2023*.
>> >
>> >
>> > Best
>> > Annie
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
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>>
>> helen varley jamieson
>>
>> he...@creative-catalyst.com
>> http://www.creative-catalyst.com
>> http://www.upstage.org.nz
>> https://mobilise-demobilise.eu
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>> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 14:45:46 +0200
>> From: Annie Abrahams 
>> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
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>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Book 

Re: [NetBehaviour] Book release Being Human . een bloemlezing . an anthology (Annie Abrahams)

[Suzon Fuks via NetBehaviour]

Great! will be happy to read it!
love,

Suzon
+32 489 55 24 34 (while in Europe)   +61439929028 (Australia)


*ASSEMBLE *- installation performance - Prague National Gallery for PQ2023 with
the generous support of the ASEKOL for lending e-waste
https://suzonfuks.net/assemble-pq2023/
*HOST TO HOST* - includes ARCHEO-GALAXY installation, closing event of the
Magdalena Montpellier Festival
*VOICES OF HAKKA WOMEN* - Finalist of Her Vision Film Festival, Toronto's
Asian Feedback Film Festival, Women's International Film Festival and
Special Mention from Asia South East Short Film Festival - trailer
https://youtu.be/ZAQYmRFaskM


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> congratulations, annie! ?
>
> On 02.10.23 12:05, Annie Abrahams via NetBehaviour wrote:
> >
> > *Can the essence of a website called /Being Human/ created between
> > 1997 and 2007, be translated into a book in 2023?*
> >
> > I am very happy and proud to announce the release of my book
> > /*Being Human . een bloemlezing . an anthology*/**
> > The book is part of the exhibition /REBOOT
> > :
>
> > Pioneering Digital Art/ at the Nieuwe Instituut in Rotterdam.
> >
> > It contains *44 poems*, a *Fore Words* by Erika F?l?p, an *Ad Verbs*
> > by me. The graphic design is by Alexandre Leray.
> >
> > A book as a derivative of something that is gone, which at least, now
> > can no longer be experienced as in the time when it was made. ...
> > /Being Human/ has always been a linguistic universe, in which
> > different voices, languages, poems, codes and variables mingle into a
> > labyrinthine whole. And so it appeared a challenge and logical to me
> > to try to capture /Being Human/ into a book, into a collection of poetry.
> >
> > "/A fantastic and fascinating semiotic mess.
> > It is text. Type undefined.
> > We bounce back and forth between languages that we understand and
> > others we don't, between ourselves and others, between humans and the
> > space between them, caught in the interface that connects and
> > separates them and us/." *Erika F?l?p*.
> >
> > The book costs *24 euro* and will be *for sale* at NAI Booksellers
> > (NAi Boekverkopers) in Rotterdam (next to the Nieuwe Insttuut). You
> > can also order one with me for 24 euro + porto.
> > ISBN: 978909037631, 160 pages, A5, hardcover.
> >
> > With thanks to: LI-MA, Amsterdam; the Nieuwe Instituut, Rotterdam and
> > the Jaap Harten Fonds, Den Haag.
> >
> >
> >
> > Opening /REBOOT
> > :
>
> > Pioneering Digital Art,/
> >
> > *Saturday October 7 *
> > Nieuwe Instituut, Rotterdam.
> > Free entrance, Sign up HERE
> > <
> https://www.eventbrite.nl/e/tickets-opening-reboot-baanbrekende-digitale-kunst-713722331707
> >.
> >
> > Exposition *8/10/2023 ? 1/04/2024*
> > Twenty ground-breaking digital artworks from the Netherlands, which
> > helped define our societal relationships with technology, are on
> > display, alongside new works by ten makers who take inspiration from
> > them in looking towards the future.
> >
> > Works by *Annie Abrahams*, Livinus and Jeep van de Bundt, Driessens &
> > Verstappen, Edward Ihnatowicz, JODI, Bas van Koolwijk, Lancel/Maat,
> > Jan Robert Leegte, Yvonne Le Grand, Peter Luining, Martine Neddam,
> > Marnix de Nijs and Edwin van der Heide, Dick Raaijmakers, Joost
> > Rekveld, Remko Scha, Jeffrey Shaw, Debra Solomon, Steina, Peter
> > Struycken, and Michel Waisvisz. *Contemporary responses* by Janilda
> > Bartolomeu, Cihad Caner, Dries Depoorter, Swendeline Ersilia, Ali
> > Eslami, Jonas Lund, Luna Maurer and Roel Wouters, Katja Novitskova,
> > Ekim Tan, and brui5er.
>