Re: [NetBehaviour] MoRe on A Visit from the Thought Police

2021-05-03 Thread Michael Szpakowski
Thanks Alan!


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On Thursday, April 29, 2021, 4:55 am, Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour 
 wrote:

Signed, and everyone should sign of course; you don't want to have England go 
the way of the U.S., it's absolutely ridiculous. And in a neighborhood with 
young students and people living around them? And even if they were utterly 
isolated - good grief!
- Alan


On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 5:33 PM Michael Szpakowski  
wrote:

What would be great is if people could sign the petition that an ex student has 
set up ( you don’t have to be in the UK , in fact the more international the 
signatures the more nervous the school will get) 
https://www.change.org/p/withdraw-cadets-btec-from-burnt-mill-academy-s-curriculum?recruiter=44975628&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=share_petition&recruited_by_id=2c72f820-7543-0130-23e4-00221968d0e0
 




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Hi Michael, Can you say more about this? As you know guns are a serious 
disease, perhaps even with Covid, the most serious disease here; at one 
point a few years ago I had to "clear" myself in western Pennsylvania with 
a 17-year-old white kid on a bike with a revolver who told me he was the 
best defense in an emergency until the police came... It's constant and 
it's frightening and along with covid contributing to everyone's anxiety - 
that, and the lack of universal healthcare. We are a country good at 
killing ourselves, probably the best among the industrialized countries. 
I'm scared out of my mind. What is going on in England? Good grief -

Best, Alan, be well

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021, Michael Szpakowski wrote:

> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:13:08 + (UTC)
> From: Michael Szpakowski 
> To: "netbehaviour ( new)" 
> Subject: [NetBehaviour] A Visit from the Thought Police
> 
> The other day my partner and I noticed that students in the school ( 11-16
> years) adjacent to our house were being drilled in the use of weapons. I
> took a photo, carefully anonymized it & posted it to twitter asking if this
> was acceptable...
> 
> https://twitter.com/mjszpakowski/status/1384981680444874756
> 
> A couple of days later we had a visit from Essex Police. I recorded it and
> you can see it here.
> 
> https://youtu.be/OBTM-ffxbJ4
> 
> Brits on this list might like to ask themselves that if this can happen
> before the government's proposed new legislation, just what life will be
> like if it goes through?
> Michael
> 
> 
>



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Re: [NetBehaviour] MoRe on A Visit from the Thought Police

2021-05-03 Thread Michael Szpakowski
Yes . I was genuinely shocked . Encouragingly so were all my neighbours... with 
warm wishes Michael


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On Thursday, April 29, 2021, 8:37 am, Annie Abrahams via NetBehaviour 
 wrote:

Shocked to learn it seems normal to learn to schoot at such a young age outside 
school in cadet associations. 

Le jeu. 29 avr. 2021 à 05:55, Alan So4ndheim via NetBehaviour 
 a écrit :

Signed, and everyone should sign of course; you don't want to have England go 
the way of the U.S., it's absolutely ridiculous.  in a neighborhood with young 
students and people living around them? And even if they were utterly isolated 
- good grief!
- Alan


On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 5:33 PM Michael Szpakowski  
wrote:

What would be great is if people could sign the petition that an ex student has 
set up ( you don’t have to be in the UK , in fact the more international the 
signatures the more nervous the school will get) 
https://www.change.org/p/withdraw-cadets-btec-from-burnt-mill-academy-s-curriculum?recruiter=44975628&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=share_petition&recruited_by_id=2c72f820-7543-0130-23e4-00221968d0e0
 




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On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 4:59 pm, Alan Sondheim  wrote:



Hi Michael, Can you say more about this? As you know guns are a serious 
disease, perhaps even with Covid, the most serious disease here; at one 
point a few years ago I had to "clear" myself in western Pennsylvania with 
a 17-year-old white kid on a bike with a revolver who told me he was the 
best defense in an emergency until the police came... It's constant and 
it's frightening and along with covid contributing to everyone's anxiety - 
that, and the lack of universal healthcare. We are a country good at 
killing ourselves, probably the best among the industrialized countries. 
I'm scared out of my mind. What is going on in England? Good grief -

Best, Alan, be well

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021, Michael Szpakowski wrote:

> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:13:08 + (UTC)
> From: Michael Szpakowski 
> To: "netbehaviour ( new)" 
> Subject: [NetBehaviour] A Visit from the Thought Police
> 
> The other day my partner and I noticed that students in the school ( 11-16
> years) adjacent to our house were being drilled in the use of weapons. I
> took a photo, carefully anonymized it & posted it to twitter asking if this
> was acceptable...
> 
> https://twitter.com/mjszpakowski/status/1384981680444874756
> 
> A couple of days later we had a visit from Essex Police. I recorded it and
> you can see it here.
> 
> https://youtu.be/OBTM-ffxbJ4
> 
> Brits on this list might like to ask themselves that if this can happen
> before the government's proposed new legislation, just what life will be
> like if it goes through?
> Michael
> 
> 
>



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Re: [NetBehaviour] MoRe on A Visit from the Thought Police

2021-04-29 Thread Annie Abrahams via NetBehaviour
Shocked to learn it seems normal to learn to schoot at such a young age
outside school in cadet associations.


Le jeu. 29 avr. 2021 à 05:55, Alan So4ndheim via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> a écrit :

> Signed, and everyone should sign of course; you don't want to have England
> go the way of the U.S., it's absolutely ridiculous.  in a neighborhood with
> young students and people living around them? And even if they were utterly
> isolated - good grief!
>
> - Alan
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 5:33 PM Michael Szpakowski <
> m...@michaelszpakowski.org> wrote:
>
>> What would be great is if people could sign the petition that an ex
>> student has set up ( you don’t have to be in the UK , in fact the more
>> international the signatures the more nervous the school will get)
>> https://www.change.org/p/withdraw-cadets-btec-from-burnt-mill-academy-s-curriculum?recruiter=44975628&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=share_petition&recruited_by_id=2c72f820-7543-0130-23e4-00221968d0e0
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone 
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 4:59 pm, Alan Sondheim 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Michael, Can you say more about this? As you know guns are a serious
>> disease, perhaps even with Covid, the most serious disease here; at one
>> point a few years ago I had to "clear" myself in western Pennsylvania
>> with
>> a 17-year-old white kid on a bike with a revolver who told me he was the
>> best defense in an emergency until the police came... It's constant and
>> it's frightening and along with covid contributing to everyone's anxiety
>> -
>> that, and the lack of universal healthcare. We are a country good at
>> killing ourselves, probably the best among the industrialized countries.
>> I'm scared out of my mind. What is going on in England? Good grief -
>>
>> Best, Alan, be well
>>
>> On Wed, 28 Apr 2021, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
>>
>> > Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:13:08 + (UTC)
>> > From: Michael Szpakowski 
>> > To: "netbehaviour ( new)" 
>> > Subject: [NetBehaviour] A Visit from the Thought Police
>> >
>> > The other day my partner and I noticed that students in the school (
>> 11-16
>> > years) adjacent to our house were being drilled in the use of weapons. I
>> > took a photo, carefully anonymized it & posted it to twitter asking if
>> this
>> > was acceptable...
>> >
>> > https://twitter.com/mjszpakowski/status/1384981680444874756
>> >
>> > A couple of days later we had a visit from Essex Police. I recorded it
>> and
>> > you can see it here.
>> >
>> > https://youtu.be/OBTM-ffxbJ4
>> >
>> > Brits on this list might like to ask themselves that if this can happen
>> > before the government's proposed new legislation, just what life will be
>> > like if it goes through?
>> > Michael
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] MoRe on A Visit from the Thought Police

2021-04-28 Thread Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
Signed, and everyone should sign of course; you don't want to have England
go the way of the U.S., it's absolutely ridiculous. And in a neighborhood
with young students and people living around them? And even if they were
utterly isolated - good grief!

- Alan


On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 5:33 PM Michael Szpakowski 
wrote:

> What would be great is if people could sign the petition that an ex
> student has set up ( you don’t have to be in the UK , in fact the more
> international the signatures the more nervous the school will get)
> https://www.change.org/p/withdraw-cadets-btec-from-burnt-mill-academy-s-curriculum?recruiter=44975628&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=share_petition&recruited_by_id=2c72f820-7543-0130-23e4-00221968d0e0
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone 
>
> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 4:59 pm, Alan Sondheim 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Michael, Can you say more about this? As you know guns are a serious
> disease, perhaps even with Covid, the most serious disease here; at one
> point a few years ago I had to "clear" myself in western Pennsylvania with
> a 17-year-old white kid on a bike with a revolver who told me he was the
> best defense in an emergency until the police came... It's constant and
> it's frightening and along with covid contributing to everyone's anxiety -
> that, and the lack of universal healthcare. We are a country good at
> killing ourselves, probably the best among the industrialized countries.
> I'm scared out of my mind. What is going on in England? Good grief -
>
> Best, Alan, be well
>
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2021, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
>
> > Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:13:08 + (UTC)
> > From: Michael Szpakowski 
> > To: "netbehaviour ( new)" 
> > Subject: [NetBehaviour] A Visit from the Thought Police
> >
> > The other day my partner and I noticed that students in the school (
> 11-16
> > years) adjacent to our house were being drilled in the use of weapons. I
> > took a photo, carefully anonymized it & posted it to twitter asking if
> this
> > was acceptable...
> >
> > https://twitter.com/mjszpakowski/status/1384981680444874756
> >
> > A couple of days later we had a visit from Essex Police. I recorded it
> and
> > you can see it here.
> >
> > https://youtu.be/OBTM-ffxbJ4
> >
> > Brits on this list might like to ask themselves that if this can happen
> > before the government's proposed new legislation, just what life will be
> > like if it goes through?
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [NetBehaviour] MoRe on A Visit from the Thought Police

2021-04-28 Thread Mark Hancock
Signed. As ever, thank you for raising this and raising my awareness. I
feel I live in a bubble sometimes where these things are an abstract
’other’ filtered through art’s lens. It’s important to be reminded where
the reality sits and that it’s there, edging towards us, along the bench
we’re placidly sitting on, distracted by the latest shiny thing.

M

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 22:31, Michael Szpakowski 
wrote:

> What would be great is if people could sign the petition that an ex
> student has set up ( you don’t have to be in the UK , in fact the more
> international the signatures the more nervous the school will get)
> https://www.change.org/p/withdraw-cadets-btec-from-burnt-mill-academy-s-curriculum?recruiter=44975628&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=share_petition&recruited_by_id=2c72f820-7543-0130-23e4-00221968d0e0
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone 
>
> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 4:59 pm, Alan Sondheim 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Michael, Can you say more about this? As you know guns are a serious
> disease, perhaps even with Covid, the most serious disease here; at one
> point a few years ago I had to "clear" myself in western Pennsylvania with
> a 17-year-old white kid on a bike with a revolver who told me he was the
> best defense in an emergency until the police came... It's constant and
> it's frightening and along with covid contributing to everyone's anxiety -
> that, and the lack of universal healthcare. We are a country good at
> killing ourselves, probably the best among the industrialized countries.
> I'm scared out of my mind. What is going on in England? Good grief -
>
> Best, Alan, be well
>
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2021, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
>
> > Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:13:08 + (UTC)
> > From: Michael Szpakowski 
> > To: "netbehaviour ( new)" 
> > Subject: [NetBehaviour] A Visit from the Thought Police
> >
> > The other day my partner and I noticed that students in the school (
> 11-16
> > years) adjacent to our house were being drilled in the use of weapons. I
> > took a photo, carefully anonymized it & posted it to twitter asking if
> this
> > was acceptable...
> >
> > https://twitter.com/mjszpakowski/status/1384981680444874756
> >
> > A couple of days later we had a visit from Essex Police. I recorded it
> and
> > you can see it here.
> >
> > https://youtu.be/OBTM-ffxbJ4
> >
> > Brits on this list might like to ask themselves that if this can happen
> > before the government's proposed new legislation, just what life will be
> > like if it goes through?
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] MoRe on A Visit from the Thought Police

2021-04-28 Thread marc garrett via NetBehaviour
Hi Michael,

I've signed the petition & donated.

Amazing! The policeman telling you should not be letting the world know
about it via the Internet.

You really should not be training kids how to fire rifles in a school
playground, on a school day.

These cadets or young trainees should be in a kind of cadet barracks. I
used to go to one when I was an army cadet.

Wishing you well.

Marc

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 22:31, Michael Szpakowski 
wrote:

> What would be great is if people could sign the petition that an ex
> student has set up ( you don’t have to be in the UK , in fact the more
> international the signatures the more nervous the school will get)
> https://www.change.org/p/withdraw-cadets-btec-from-burnt-mill-academy-s-curriculum?recruiter=44975628&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=share_petition&recruited_by_id=2c72f820-7543-0130-23e4-00221968d0e0
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone 
>
> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 4:59 pm, Alan Sondheim 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Michael, Can you say more about this? As you know guns are a serious
> disease, perhaps even with Covid, the most serious disease here; at one
> point a few years ago I had to "clear" myself in western Pennsylvania with
> a 17-year-old white kid on a bike with a revolver who told me he was the
> best defense in an emergency until the police came... It's constant and
> it's frightening and along with covid contributing to everyone's anxiety -
> that, and the lack of universal healthcare. We are a country good at
> killing ourselves, probably the best among the industrialized countries.
> I'm scared out of my mind. What is going on in England? Good grief -
>
> Best, Alan, be well
>
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2021, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
>
> > Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:13:08 + (UTC)
> > From: Michael Szpakowski 
> > To: "netbehaviour ( new)" 
> > Subject: [NetBehaviour] A Visit from the Thought Police
> >
> > The other day my partner and I noticed that students in the school (
> 11-16
> > years) adjacent to our house were being drilled in the use of weapons. I
> > took a photo, carefully anonymized it & posted it to twitter asking if
> this
> > was acceptable...
> >
> > https://twitter.com/mjszpakowski/status/1384981680444874756
> >
> > A couple of days later we had a visit from Essex Police. I recorded it
> and
> > you can see it here.
> >
> > https://youtu.be/OBTM-ffxbJ4
> >
> > Brits on this list might like to ask themselves that if this can happen
> > before the government's proposed new legislation, just what life will be
> > like if it goes through?
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
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[NetBehaviour] MoRe on A Visit from the Thought Police

2021-04-28 Thread Michael Szpakowski
What would be great is if people could sign the petition that an ex student has 
set up ( you don’t have to be in the UK , in fact the more international the 
signatures the more nervous the school will get) 
https://www.change.org/p/withdraw-cadets-btec-from-burnt-mill-academy-s-curriculum?recruiter=44975628&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=share_petition&recruited_by_id=2c72f820-7543-0130-23e4-00221968d0e0
 




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On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 4:59 pm, Alan Sondheim  wrote:



Hi Michael, Can you say more about this? As you know guns are a serious 
disease, perhaps even with Covid, the most serious disease here; at one 
point a few years ago I had to "clear" myself in western Pennsylvania with 
a 17-year-old white kid on a bike with a revolver who told me he was the 
best defense in an emergency until the police came... It's constant and 
it's frightening and along with covid contributing to everyone's anxiety - 
that, and the lack of universal healthcare. We are a country good at 
killing ourselves, probably the best among the industrialized countries. 
I'm scared out of my mind. What is going on in England? Good grief -

Best, Alan, be well

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021, Michael Szpakowski wrote:

> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:13:08 + (UTC)
> From: Michael Szpakowski 
> To: "netbehaviour ( new)" 
> Subject: [NetBehaviour] A Visit from the Thought Police
> 
> The other day my partner and I noticed that students in the school ( 11-16
> years) adjacent to our house were being drilled in the use of weapons. I
> took a photo, carefully anonymized it & posted it to twitter asking if this
> was acceptable...
> 
> https://twitter.com/mjszpakowski/status/1384981680444874756
> 
> A couple of days later we had a visit from Essex Police. I recorded it and
> you can see it here.
> 
> https://youtu.be/OBTM-ffxbJ4
> 
> Brits on this list might like to ask themselves that if this can happen
> before the government's proposed new legislation, just what life will be
> like if it goes through?
> Michael
> 
> 
>



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