Re: [NetBehaviour] Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves
thanks Curt On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Curt Cloninger c...@lab404.com wrote: Hi Annie (and all), I will inject (arf) on this one. Deleuze/Guattari's becoming animal seems relevant. DG are often accused of being unpragmatic and playing hard and fast with science, but of all the philosophers I read, I find them curiously pragmatic. To summarize: they suggest the existence of various planes/strata, some of which would be animal biology, human psychology, art, and symbolic language/iconography. At any time these planes can intersect. Such intersections are forms of deterritorialization and reterritorialization. The relevant question is -- what new emergent futures may result from these intersections, and where may they lead that is efficacious? The goal of all this de/re-territorialization is not that science (in this case, biology) should be utterly disregarded and merely mythologized. The goal is that science be seen as only one of many ways in which undifferentiated being/immanence has stratified/territorialized, rather than seeing science as *the* overarching plane through which all other being must necessarily be understood. Having said all that, the key to performoing Deleuzean experiments in de/re-territorializations is *rigor.* Many deterritorializations (forms of body modification, s+m) simply wind up reterritorializing in a whirlpool spiral that ends in death. So for instance (as in Cronenberg's Dead Ringers), you can only literally reconfigure your internal bodily organs for so long before your body rebels and you die. And death is not all that promising a place to wind up (at least for those of us who remain; it doesn' really lead anywhere new or efficacious). The other thing to be avoided is what seems to be happening in this particular art piece -- a bit of biological engagement coupled with a whole lot of human psychological [mis]interpretation (as Annie points out) and a whole lot of artistic symbology. What *actually* changes in the immanent/affective world? -- not a lot. Yes, the piece has pragmatically provoked us to have this theoretical conversation (happening on the plane of langauge), but a Rothko painting can (still) trigger a theoretical conversation, so that is nothing particularly new. This is why I like Stelarc's biological experiments (particularly as interpreted by Brian Massumi) better than Eduardo Kac's biological experiments. Because Stelarc's practice moves beyond mere symbology and on toward something more rigorous, something that actually modulates bodily affect (if only in a limited, prototypical way). For the same reason, the Porridge/Breyer pandrogyne expermients exert more agency (at least on a biological strata) than Orlan's surgery experiments (which are still admirable, but more on a symbolic strata). So even something like this: http://www.euroartmagazine.com/artUps/1177409414.jpg (Rebecca Horn's Finger Gloves), which just involves wood and not horse blood, actually alters a human body much more affectively/pragmatically than does an infusion of horse blood. Horn's entire physical posture and her way of being in the world is changed. So the stilts with horse hooves are doing way more than the blood. The horse blood is like vampire or cannibal mythology -- working on the plane of symbolism , ritual, theater, spectacle. Of course, symbolism and ritual are strata in the world that do actually change the world. No doubt. But again, as Annie observes, the piece is doing something other than what its artist is claiming -- the blood infusion is more like Beuysean shamanism and less like Deleuzean becoming animal. (Makes a good viral youTube video, though.) cf: http://www.amazon.com/When-Species-Posthumanities-Donna-Haraway/dp/0816650462/ http://www.orlan.net/works/performance/ http://www.genesisbreyerporridge.com/pandrogyne-images.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2MntBUwUxY http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075995/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094964/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Pankejeff http://www.massmoca.org/event_details.php?id=310 http://squarewhiteworld.com/2009/12/10/stop-screaming-ideas-are-the-voids-of-the-body-penetrating-connexions-self-serving-excerpts-from-stephen-barbers-the-screaming-body/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdxRPavquIQ [4:14-6:40] Best, Curt Message: 15 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:08:45 +0200 From: Annie Abrahams bram@gmail.com Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves May the horse live in me Interesting experiment, interesting storytelling, but far beyond reality She explained to Centre Press http://www.centre-presse.fr/article-145011-dans-les-veines-de-l-artiste-coule-le-sang-de-cheval.html that the whole process made her feel ?hyper-powerful, hyper-sensitive and hyper-nervous.? She added: ?I had a feeling of being superhuman. I was not normal in my body. I had all
Re: [NetBehaviour] Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves
I've been drinking a glass of horse blood every morning for the last 34 years. But my penis still hasn't grown any larger... From: Ana Valdés agora...@gmail.com Date: 11 August 2011 00:19:30 BDT To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Nice someone remember the old gifted writer Cordwainer Smith. I read it when I was quite young and became impressed with his theory of making people with animal qualities, people similar to cats who could see in the dark, people strong as lions, fast as leopards... He was a weird person, worked for FBI or the CIA. Ana On Aug 10, 2011, at 21:08, Annie Abrahams bram@gmail.com wrote: May the horse live in me Interesting experiment, interesting storytelling, but far beyond reality She explained to Centre Press that the whole process made her feel “hyper-powerful, hyper-sensitive and hyper-nervous.” She added: “I had a feeling of being superhuman. I was not normal in my body. I had all of the emotions of a herbivore. I couldn’t sleep and I felt a little bit like a horse.” Interpretation, wishful thinking - bullshit. Anyone who had medical tests done in an hospital to check out the heart and who has been injected with chemicals knows it needs little (these chemicals) to make you feel a completely different person. (anxious, calm, nervous etc) Chemicals have a deep impact on our being (all drug users know this too), feelings, experiences of ourselves, so it's no wonder horse proteins make you feel changed, anything would. I like the experiment, the discussion it triggers, but I abhor the biased language used by these artists. In my opinion it doesn't take science serious, only uses it for something else. Yours Annie On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 10/08/11 18:17, marc garrett wrote: Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves By Olivia Solon Laval-Jeantet and her creative partner Benoit Mangin (working as collective Art Orienté Objet) were keen to explore the blurring of boundaries between species in the piece, entitled May the Horse Live in Me. Laval-Jeantet prepared her body to accept the horse blood plasma by getting injected with different horse immunoglobulins over the course of several months. http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/08/horse-blood-art ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves
Hi Annie (and all), I will inject (arf) on this one. Deleuze/Guattari's becoming animal seems relevant. DG are often accused of being unpragmatic and playing hard and fast with science, but of all the philosophers I read, I find them curiously pragmatic. To summarize: they suggest the existence of various planes/strata, some of which would be animal biology, human psychology, art, and symbolic language/iconography. At any time these planes can intersect. Such intersections are forms of deterritorialization and reterritorialization. The relevant question is -- what new emergent futures may result from these intersections, and where may they lead that is efficacious? The goal of all this de/re-territorialization is not that science (in this case, biology) should be utterly disregarded and merely mythologized. The goal is that science be seen as only one of many ways in which undifferentiated being/immanence has stratified/territorialized, rather than seeing science as *the* overarching plane through which all other being must necessarily be understood. Having said all that, the key to performoing Deleuzean experiments in de/re-territorializations is *rigor.* Many deterritorializations (forms of body modification, s+m) simply wind up reterritorializing in a whirlpool spiral that ends in death. So for instance (as in Cronenberg's Dead Ringers), you can only literally reconfigure your internal bodily organs for so long before your body rebels and you die. And death is not all that promising a place to wind up (at least for those of us who remain; it doesn' really lead anywhere new or efficacious). The other thing to be avoided is what seems to be happening in this particular art piece -- a bit of biological engagement coupled with a whole lot of human psychological [mis]interpretation (as Annie points out) and a whole lot of artistic symbology. What *actually* changes in the immanent/affective world? -- not a lot. Yes, the piece has pragmatically provoked us to have this theoretical conversation (happening on the plane of langauge), but a Rothko painting can (still) trigger a theoretical conversation, so that is nothing particularly new. This is why I like Stelarc's biological experiments (particularly as interpreted by Brian Massumi) better than Eduardo Kac's biological experiments. Because Stelarc's practice moves beyond mere symbology and on toward something more rigorous, something that actually modulates bodily affect (if only in a limited, prototypical way). For the same reason, the Porridge/Breyer pandrogyne expermients exert more agency (at least on a biological strata) than Orlan's surgery experiments (which are still admirable, but more on a symbolic strata). So even something like this: http://www.euroartmagazine.com/artUps/1177409414.jpg (Rebecca Horn's Finger Gloves), which just involves wood and not horse blood, actually alters a human body much more affectively/pragmatically than does an infusion of horse blood. Horn's entire physical posture and her way of being in the world is changed. So the stilts with horse hooves are doing way more than the blood. The horse blood is like vampire or cannibal mythology -- working on the plane of symbolism , ritual, theater, spectacle. Of course, symbolism and ritual are strata in the world that do actually change the world. No doubt. But again, as Annie observes, the piece is doing something other than what its artist is claiming -- the blood infusion is more like Beuysean shamanism and less like Deleuzean becoming animal. (Makes a good viral youTube video, though.) cf: http://www.amazon.com/When-Species-Posthumanities-Donna-Haraway/dp/0816650462/ http://www.orlan.net/works/performance/ http://www.genesisbreyerporridge.com/pandrogyne-images.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2MntBUwUxY http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075995/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094964/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Pankejeff http://www.massmoca.org/event_details.php?id=310 http://squarewhiteworld.com/2009/12/10/stop-screaming-ideas-are-the-voids-of-the-body-penetrating-connexions-self-serving-excerpts-from-stephen-barbers-the-screaming-body/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdxRPavquIQ [4:14-6:40] Best, Curt Message: 15 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:08:45 +0200 From: Annie Abrahams bram@gmail.com Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves May the horse live in me Interesting experiment, interesting storytelling, but far beyond reality She explained to Centre Presshttp://www.centre-presse.fr/article-145011-dans-les-veines-de-l-artiste-coule-le-sang-de-cheval.htmlthat the whole process made her feel ?hyper-powerful, hyper-sensitive and hyper-nervous.? She added: ?I had a feeling of being superhuman. I was not normal in my body. I had all of the emotions of a herbivore. I couldn?t sleep and I felt a little bit like a horse.? Interpretation, wishful thinking - bullshit
Re: [NetBehaviour] Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves
How about your consumption of hay? M -Original Message- From: netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org [mailto:netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org] On Behalf Of Richard Wright Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 4:56 AM To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood,Wears Hooves I've been drinking a glass of horse blood every morning for the last 34 years. But my penis still hasn't grown any larger... From: Ana Valdés agora...@gmail.com Date: 11 August 2011 00:19:30 BDT To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Nice someone remember the old gifted writer Cordwainer Smith. I read it when I was quite young and became impressed with his theory of making people with animal qualities, people similar to cats who could see in the dark, people strong as lions, fast as leopards... He was a weird person, worked for FBI or the CIA. Ana On Aug 10, 2011, at 21:08, Annie Abrahams mailto:bram@gmail.com bram@gmail.com wrote: May the horse live in me Interesting experiment, interesting storytelling, but far beyond reality She explained to Centre Press http://www.centre-presse.fr/article-145011-dans-les-veines-de-l-artiste-cou le-le-sang-de-cheval.html that the whole process made her feel hyper-powerful, hyper-sensitive and hyper-nervous. She added: I had a feeling of being superhuman. I was not normal in my body. I had all of the emotions of a herbivore. I couldnt sleep and I felt a little bit like a horse. Interpretation, wishful thinking - bullshit. Anyone who had medical tests done in an hospital to check out the heart and who has been injected with chemicals knows it needs little (these chemicals) to make you feel a completely different person. (anxious, calm, nervous etc) Chemicals have a deep impact on our being (all drug users know this too), feelings, experiences of ourselves, so it's no wonder horse proteins make you feel changed, anything would. I like the experiment, the discussion it triggers, but I abhor the biased language used by these artists. In my opinion it doesn't take science serious, only uses it for something else. Yours Annie On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Rob Myers mailto:r...@robmyers.org mailto:r...@robmyers.org r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 10/08/11 18:17, marc garrett wrote: Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves By Olivia Solon Laval-Jeantet and her creative partner Benoit Mangin (working as collective Art Orienté Objet) were keen to explore the blurring of boundaries between species in the piece, entitled May the Horse Live in Me. Laval-Jeantet prepared her body to accept the horse blood plasma by getting injected with different horse immunoglobulins over the course of several months. http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/08/horse-blood-art http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/08/horse-blood-art http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/08/horse-blood-art ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves
For a second forgetting D/G, it seems to me that if it were shamanic, it would in fact be a form of becoming-animal; I've read a fair amount into Inuit and Native American shamanism at times, and this is paramount. But the artist is working within the art-world, and the real content of the piece it seems to me is one of risk - a foreign blood presenced within what we assume is a natural order of fluidity. What I miss btw in Stelarc is precisely the shamanic, the becoming - it's attachments, no matter how organic, and while he puts his body at risk (as does the artist here), the mind is busy with the theorization of prosthesis. In this way, it's kind of a 19th-century approach: to become-X means to combine (human, X) in a formal manner... Anyway, when one speaks of 'rigor,' I do think of the long and endless philosophical discourse on scientific experimentation; I tend not to think of exempla. But that's probably just me. - was going to make a pun about hoarse blood, too much speaking and theorizing... but thought better of it .. but then . - - alan == email archive http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ webpage http://www.alansondheim.org music archive: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ current text http://www.alansondheim.org/rd.txt == ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves
On 10/08/11 18:17, marc garrett wrote: Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves By Olivia Solon Laval-Jeantet and her creative partner Benoit Mangin (working as collective Art Orienté Objet) were keen to explore the blurring of boundaries between species in the piece, entitled May the Horse Live in Me. Laval-Jeantet prepared her body to accept the horse blood plasma by getting injected with different horse immunoglobulins over the course of several months. http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/08/horse-blood-art Oh I was going to post that later. :-) I wish I knew enough immunobiology and medical ethics to be able to evaluate the reality of it a bit better... - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves
May the horse live in me Interesting experiment, interesting storytelling, but far beyond reality She explained to Centre Presshttp://www.centre-presse.fr/article-145011-dans-les-veines-de-l-artiste-coule-le-sang-de-cheval.htmlthat the whole process made her feel “hyper-powerful, hyper-sensitive and hyper-nervous.” She added: “I had a feeling of being superhuman. I was not normal in my body. I had all of the emotions of a herbivore. I couldn’t sleep and I felt a little bit like a horse.” Interpretation, wishful thinking - bullshit. Anyone who had medical tests done in an hospital to check out the heart and who has been injected with chemicals knows it needs little (these chemicals) to make you feel a completely different person. (anxious, calm, nervous etc) Chemicals have a deep impact on our being (all drug users know this too), feelings, experiences of ourselves, so it's no wonder horse proteins make you feel changed, anything would. I like the experiment, the discussion it triggers, but I abhor the biased language used by these artists. In my opinion it doesn't take science serious, only uses it for something else. Yours Annie On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 10/08/11 18:17, marc garrett wrote: Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves By Olivia Solon Laval-Jeantet and her creative partner Benoit Mangin (working as collective Art Orienté Objet) were keen to explore the blurring of boundaries between species in the piece, entitled May the Horse Live in Me. Laval-Jeantet prepared her body to accept the horse blood plasma by getting injected with different horse immunoglobulins over the course of several months. http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/08/horse-blood-art Oh I was going to post that later. :-) I wish I knew enough immunobiology and medical ethics to be able to evaluate the reality of it a bit better... - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- *Touchée Manipilée* Photos, vidéo, texte de la performance du 7 mai à la Tapisserie, Paris http://aabrahams.wordpress.com/2011/05/08/touche-manipule/ ** *La coopération n’est pas toujours, ne démarre pas toujours au quart de tour *. http://bram.org/huisclos/moustic ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
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Some background: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ballad_of_Lost_C'Mell Future perspectives from the recent paste Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On Aug 10, 2011, at 21:08, Annie Abrahams bram@gmail.com wrote: May the horse live in me Interesting experiment, interesting storytelling, but far beyond reality She explained to Centre Press that the whole process made her feel “hyper-powerful, hyper-sensitive and hyper-nervous.” She added: “I had a feeling of being superhuman. I was not normal in my body. I had all of the emotions of a herbivore. I couldn’t sleep and I felt a little bit like a horse.” Interpretation, wishful thinking - bullshit. Anyone who had medical tests done in an hospital to check out the heart and who has been injected with chemicals knows it needs little (these chemicals) to make you feel a completely different person. (anxious, calm, nervous etc) Chemicals have a deep impact on our being (all drug users know this too), feelings, experiences of ourselves, so it's no wonder horse proteins make you feel changed, anything would. I like the experiment, the discussion it triggers, but I abhor the biased language used by these artists. In my opinion it doesn't take science serious, only uses it for something else. Yours Annie On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 10/08/11 18:17, marc garrett wrote: Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves By Olivia Solon Laval-Jeantet and her creative partner Benoit Mangin (working as collective Art Orienté Objet) were keen to explore the blurring of boundaries between species in the piece, entitled May the Horse Live in Me. Laval-Jeantet prepared her body to accept the horse blood plasma by getting injected with different horse immunoglobulins over the course of several months. http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/08/horse-blood-art Oh I was going to post that later. :-) I wish I knew enough immunobiology and medical ethics to be able to evaluate the reality of it a bit better... - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- Touchée Manipilée Photos, vidéo, texte de la performance du 7 mai à la Tapisserie, Paris http://aabrahams.wordpress.com/2011/05/08/touche-manipule / La coopération n’est pas toujours, ne démarre pas toujours au quart de tour. http://bram.org/huisclos/moustic ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves
Just in case you (networked behaviourists) lost the tracks: Cordwainer Smith's Instrumentality of Mankind: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumentality_of_Mankind Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On Aug 11, 2011, at 0:04, Andreas Maria Jacobs aj...@xs4all.nl wrote: Some background: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ballad_of_Lost_C'Mell Future perspectives from the recent paste Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On Aug 10, 2011, at 21:08, Annie Abrahams bram@gmail.com wrote: May the horse live in me Interesting experiment, interesting storytelling, but far beyond reality She explained to Centre Press that the whole process made her fee l “hyper-powerful, hyper-sensitive and hyper-nervous.” She added: “I had a feeling of being superhuman. I was not normal in m y body. I had all of the emotions of a herbivore. I couldn’t sleep and I felt a little bit like a horse.” Interpretation, wishful thinking - bullshit. Anyone who had medical tests done in an hospital to check out the heart and who has been injected with chemicals knows it needs little (these chemicals) to make you feel a completely different person. (anxious, calm, nervous etc) Chemicals have a deep impact on our being (all drug users know this too), feelings, experiences of ourselves, so it's no wonder horse proteins make you feel changed, anything would. I like the experiment, the discussion it triggers, but I abhor the biased language used by these artists. In my opinion it doesn't take science serious, only uses it for something else. Yours Annie On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 10/08/11 18:17, marc garrett wrote: Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves By Olivia Solon Laval-Jeantet and her creative partner Benoit Mangin (working as collective Art Orienté Objet) were keen to explore the blurring of boundaries between species in the piece, entitled May the Horse Live in Me. Laval-Jeantet prepared her body to accept the horse blood plasma by getting injected with different horse immunoglobulins over the course of several months. http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/08/horse-blood-art Oh I was going to post that later. :-) I wish I knew enough immunobiology and medical ethics to be able to evaluate the reality of it a bit better... - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- Touchée Manipilée Photos, vidéo, texte de la performance du 7 mai à la Tapisserie, Paris http://aabrahams.wordpress.com/2011/05/08/touche-manipule / La coopération n’est pas toujours, ne démarre pas toujours au quart de tour. http://bram.org/huisclos/moustic ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves
Nice someone remember the old gifted writer Cordwainer Smith. I read it when I was quite young and became impressed with his theory of making people with animal qualities, people similar to cats who could see in the dark, people strong as lions, fast as leopards... He was a weird person, worked for FBI or the CIA. Ana On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Andreas Maria Jacobs aj...@xs4all.nlwrote: Just in case you (networked behaviourists) lost the tracks: Cordwainer Smith's Instrumentality of Mankind: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumentality_of_Mankind http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumentality_of_Mankind Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.comhttp://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nlhttp://burgerwaanzin.nl On Aug 11, 2011, at 0:04, Andreas Maria Jacobs aj...@xs4all.nl wrote: Some background: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ballad_of_Lost_C%27Mell http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ballad_of_Lost_C'Mell Future perspectives from the recent paste Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com http://www.nictoglobe.com http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl http://burgerwaanzin.nl http://burgerwaanzin.nl On Aug 10, 2011, at 21:08, Annie Abrahams bram@gmail.com bram@gmail.com wrote: May the horse live in me Interesting experiment, interesting storytelling, but far beyond reality She explained to Centre Presshttp://www.centre-presse.fr/article-145011-dans-les-veines-de-l-artiste-coule-le-sang-de-cheval.htmlthat the whole process made her feel “hyper-powerful, hyper-sensitive and hyper-nervous.” She added: “I had a feeling of being superhuman. I was not normal in my body. I had all of the emotions of a herbivore. I couldn’t sleep and I felt a little bit like a horse.” Interpretation, wishful thinking - bullshit. Anyone who had medical tests done in an hospital to check out the heart and who has been injected with chemicals knows it needs little (these chemicals) to make you feel a completely different person. (anxious, calm, nervous etc) Chemicals have a deep impact on our being (all drug users know this too), feelings, experiences of ourselves, so it's no wonder horse proteins make you feel changed, anything would. I like the experiment, the discussion it triggers, but I abhor the biased language used by these artists. In my opinion it doesn't take science serious, only uses it for something else. Yours Annie On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.orgr...@robmyers.org r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 10/08/11 18:17, marc garrett wrote: Artist Injects Herself With Horse Blood, Wears Hooves By Olivia Solon Laval-Jeantet and her creative partner Benoit Mangin (working as collective Art Orienté Objet) were keen to explore the blurring of boundaries between species in the piece, entitled May the Horse Live in Me. Laval-Jeantet prepared her body to accept the horse blood plasma by getting injected with different horse immunoglobulins over the course of several months. http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/08/horse-blood-arthttp://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/08/horse-blood-art http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/08/horse-blood-art Oh I was going to post that later. :-) I wish I knew enough immunobiology and medical ethics to be able to evaluate the reality of it a bit better... - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviourhttp://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- *Touchée Manipilée* Photos, vidéo, texte de la performance du 7 mai à la Tapisserie, Paris http://aabrahams.wordpress.com/2011/05/08/touche-manipule/http://aabrahams.wordpress.com/2011/05/08/touche-manipule/ http://aabrahams.wordpress.com/2011/05/08/touche-manipule/** *La coopération n’est pas toujours, ne démarre pas toujours au quart de tour*. http://bram.org/huisclos/moustichttp://bram.org/huisclos/moustic http://bram.org/huisclos/moustic ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.orgNetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- http://anavaldes.wordpress.com http://passagenwerk.wordpress.com http://caravia.stumbleupon.com http://www.crusading.se Gondolgatan 2 l tr 12832 Skarpnäck Sweden tel +468-943288
