Re: [NetBehaviour] Découvrez Form@ts
That does not compute. On 16 Mar 2012, at 18:32, Annie Abrahams wrote: no ladies in the show at all can't they format? On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: My Balloon Dog (commissioned by Furtherfield) is in a show at the Jeu de Paum's virtual space along with work by Vuk Ćosić, Slub, FAT Lab, and others: http://espacevirtuel.jeudepaume.org/formts-2-1388/ Balloon Dog est une modélisation en trois dimensions, téléchargeable gratuitement sous la licence Creative Commons, modifiable et imprimable sur une imprimante 3D... :-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- 29 12 2011 Annie Abrahams on Greek television http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eE36dwhLgg 4'26'' http://www.bram.org ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk http://www.littlepig.org.uk/ @SimonBiggsUK skype: simonbiggsuk s.bi...@ed.ac.uk Edinburgh College of Art, University of Edinburgh http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ http://www.elmcip.net/ http://www.movingtargets.co.uk/ ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Découvrez Form@ts
of course I am glad, happy for Rob to be in this show I posted because I was thinking, am thinking about gender and power, influence, attention, - feel quit confused about it, but noticed form@tdidn't include female formats and made me think about if these exist yes they must, they do *Can we find good examples*? And why they are omitted? does form@t mean control? is the show a formalistic exposure? I know that the initiator of the online art presentations in Jeu de Paume is a women - she invited Christophe Bruno - an artist I know and appreciate - she is having a lot of difficulties defending online art. Does the institution need a strong male presence to try to be convincing? Is it a sign of times not changing? Are we still at the Three Guineas time of Virginia Woolf yours Annie *Can we find good examples of fem@le Form@ts?* On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 16/03/12 18:32, Annie Abrahams wrote: no ladies in the show at all can't they format? Some are in the Magic Ring project, although none are mentioned on the front page, no. :-/ - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- 29 12 2011 Annie Abrahams on Greek television http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eE36dwhLgg 4'26'' http://www.bram.org ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Découvrez Form@ts
On 17/03/12 10:14, Annie Abrahams wrote: of course I am glad, happy for Rob to be in this show Thank you! I didn't for a moment think that you weren't. :-) I posted because I was thinking, am thinking about gender and power, influence, attention, - feel quit confused about it, but noticed form@t didn't include female formats and made me think about if these exist yes they must, they do *Can we find good examples*? And why they are omitted? does form@t mean control? is the show a formalistic exposure? I know that the initiator of the online art presentations in Jeu de Paume is a women - she invited Christophe Bruno - an artist I know and appreciate - she is having a lot of difficulties defending online art. Yes my contacts from the gallery were female, and I didn't think to ask further about other people in the show. Does the institution need a strong male presence to try to be convincing? Is it a sign of times not changing? Are we still at the Three Guineas time of Virginia Woolf Hello my unexamined male privilege. :-/ I'm grateful to you for raising this, and embarrassed on my part that I didn't consider it. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Découvrez Form@ts
On 17/03/12 00:20, Mark Hancock wrote: Well done Rob. Thank you! On 16/03/12 22:45, manik wrote: ...congratulations Rob!...IMO,we could see in that selected work one well define part of NMA...it's important as way ...that could define space for different thinking about society,tecnology and artist as 'Subject in new epoch of computing' ...MANIK...MARCH...2012... Thank you! It is meant to sit uncomfortably in relation to exactly those things. Imagine a world in which it doesn't look strange... - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Découvrez Form@ts
Super happy to see Rob's Balloon Dog getting seen as part of this exhibition : ) Annie... Well perhaps Format (technical) stands for Form (artistic) I'm not sure I could (or would want to) find and define a female format but v. disheartened by what is either an unfortunate oversight or just a pure evil exclusion of work by women. There are many many many examples - these are just a tiny sliver of women who could have contributed a format to the project. I hesitate to make a list because of all the brilliant things that will then be excluded but just to show that this isn't just hot air. De Geuzen (Renee Turner, Riek Sijbring and Femke Snelting)- Female Icons and Anxiety Monitor Mary Flanagan - many many many, including Domestic - personal history told around the flaming walls of a gamespace Helen Varley Jamieson and Paula Crutchlow - Make-Shift - participatory (audiences of two physical spaces) linked by artists' dramaturgy Upstage - Avatar Body Collision - cyberformance software platform and performance programme Annie Abrahams - The Big Kiss, Huit Clos, Angry Women +many many- networked performance Liz Sterry - Kay's Blog, real-world reconstruction of social life online Ele Carpenter - Embroidered Digital Commons - stitching together of Craft and Code cultures of knowledge sharing and politics. Alison Craighead Amy Alexander Kate Armstrong Kate Rich Francesca fa Rimini Coco Fusco Natalie Jeremijenko Laurie Anderson Mez Breeze Kelli Dipple Nina Pope and Karen Guthrie :) R On 17/03/2012 10:14, Annie Abrahams wrote: of course I am glad, happy for Rob to be in this show I posted because I was thinking, am thinking about gender and power, influence, attention, - feel quit confused about it, but noticed form@t didn't include female formats and made me think about if these exist yes they must, they do *Can we find good examples*? And why they are omitted? does form@t mean control? is the show a formalistic exposure? I know that the initiator of the online art presentations in Jeu de Paume is a women - she invited Christophe Bruno - an artist I know and appreciate - she is having a lot of difficulties defending online art. Does the institution need a strong male presence to try to be convincing? Is it a sign of times not changing? Are we still at the Three Guineas time of Virginia Woolf yours Annie *Can we find good examples of fem@le Form@ts?* On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org mailto:r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 16/03/12 18:32, Annie Abrahams wrote: no ladies in the show at all can't they format? Some are in the Magic Ring project, although none are mentioned on the front page, no. :-/ - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org mailto:NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- 29 12 2011 Annie Abrahams on Greek television http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eE36dwhLgg 4'26'' http://www.bram.org ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Découvrez Form@ts
That's a great and broad list of women artists! Most of my favourites are in there and I'd also want to include Cosey Fanni Tutti, but obviosly the lsit could expand. Has there been any collected writing about or by woman in digital arts? It would be a really interesting collection. I'm thinking something like RE/Search publication's Angry Woman (see link below.) Interesting but at the same time complex in the stand point that it should. would take? Cheers M http://researchpubs.com/Blog/?page_id=13category=15product_id=35 On 17 Mar 2012, at 17:18, ruth catlow wrote: Super happy to see Rob's Balloon Dog getting seen as part of this exhibition : ) Annie... Well perhaps Format (technical) stands for Form (artistic) I'm not sure I could (or would want to) find and define a female format but v. disheartened by what is either an unfortunate oversight or just a pure evil exclusion of work by women. There are many many many examples - these are just a tiny sliver of women who could have contributed a format to the project. I hesitate to make a list because of all the brilliant things that will then be excluded but just to show that this isn't just hot air. De Geuzen (Renee Turner, Riek Sijbring and Femke Snelting)- Female Icons and Anxiety Monitor Mary Flanagan - many many many, including Domestic - personal history told around the flaming walls of a gamespace Helen Varley Jamieson and Paula Crutchlow - Make-Shift - participatory (audiences of two physical spaces) linked by artists' dramaturgy Upstage - Avatar Body Collision - cyberformance software platform and performance programme Annie Abrahams - The Big Kiss, Huit Clos, Angry Women +many many- networked performance Liz Sterry - Kay's Blog, real-world reconstruction of social life online Ele Carpenter - Embroidered Digital Commons - stitching together of Craft and Code cultures of knowledge sharing and politics. Alison Craighead Amy Alexander Kate Armstrong Kate Rich Francesca fa Rimini Coco Fusco Natalie Jeremijenko Laurie Anderson Mez Breeze Kelli Dipple Nina Pope and Karen Guthrie :) R On 17/03/2012 10:14, Annie Abrahams wrote: of course I am glad, happy for Rob to be in this show I posted because I was thinking, am thinking about gender and power, influence, attention, - feel quit confused about it, but noticed form@t didn't include female formats and made me think about if these exist yes they must, they do Can we find good examples? And why they are omitted? does form@t mean control? is the show a formalistic exposure? I know that the initiator of the online art presentations in Jeu de Paume is a women - she invited Christophe Bruno - an artist I know and appreciate - she is having a lot of difficulties defending online art. Does the institution need a strong male presence to try to be convincing? Is it a sign of times not changing? Are we still at the Three Guineas time of Virginia Woolf yours Annie Can we find good examples of fem@le Form@ts? On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 16/03/12 18:32, Annie Abrahams wrote: no ladies in the show at all can't they format? Some are in the Magic Ring project, although none are mentioned on the front page, no. :-/ - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- 29 12 2011 Annie Abrahams on Greek television http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eE36dwhLgg 4'26'' http://www.bram.org ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Découvrez Form@ts
My Balloon Dog (commissioned by Furtherfield) is in a show at the Jeu de Paum's virtual space along with work by Vuk Ćosić, Slub, FAT Lab, and others: http://espacevirtuel.jeudepaume.org/formts-2-1388/ Balloon Dog est une modélisation en trois dimensions, téléchargeable gratuitement sous la licence Creative Commons, modifiable et imprimable sur une imprimante 3D... :-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Découvrez Form@ts
no ladies in the show at all can't they format? On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: My Balloon Dog (commissioned by Furtherfield) is in a show at the Jeu de Paum's virtual space along with work by Vuk Ćosić, Slub, FAT Lab, and others: http://espacevirtuel.jeudepaume.org/formts-2-1388/ Balloon Dog est une modélisation en trois dimensions, téléchargeable gratuitement sous la licence Creative Commons, modifiable et imprimable sur une imprimante 3D... :-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- 29 12 2011 Annie Abrahams on Greek television http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eE36dwhLgg 4'26'' http://www.bram.org ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Découvrez Form@ts
On 16/03/12 18:32, Annie Abrahams wrote: no ladies in the show at all can't they format? Some are in the Magic Ring project, although none are mentioned on the front page, no. :-/ - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Découvrez Form@ts
...congratulations Rob!...IMO,we could see in that selected work one well define part of NMA...it's important as way ...that could define space for different thinking about society,tecnology and artist as 'Subject in new epoch of computing' ...MANIK...MARCH...2012... - Original Message - From: Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 7:02 PM Subject: [NetBehaviour] Découvrez Form@ts My Balloon Dog (commissioned by Furtherfield) is in a show at the Jeu de Paum's virtual space along with work by Vuk Ćosić, Slub, FAT Lab, and others: http://espacevirtuel.jeudepaume.org/formts-2-1388/ Balloon Dog est une modélisation en trois dimensions, téléchargeable gratuitement sous la licence Creative Commons, modifiable et imprimable sur une imprimante 3D... :-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Découvrez Form@ts
Well done Rob. M On 16 Mar 2012, at 18:02, Rob Myers wrote: My Balloon Dog (commissioned by Furtherfield) is in a show at the Jeu de Paum's virtual space along with work by Vuk Ćosić, Slub, FAT Lab, and others: http://espacevirtuel.jeudepaume.org/formts-2-1388/ Balloon Dog est une modélisation en trois dimensions, téléchargeable gratuitement sous la licence Creative Commons, modifiable et imprimable sur une imprimante 3D... :-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
