Re: [NetBehaviour] colour to sound

2012-09-17 Thread Simon Biggs
There's a whole argument that can be had here as to how you might convert 
colour to sound, or vice a versa. As phenomena they are not linked by physic,  
their bandwidth and structure are of different ilk's (they have no spectral 
relationship). Any conversion system you come up with is therefore subjective 
and arbitrary. You could use amplitude to map to brightness but how do you 
account for harmonics? There are no harmonics in colour. If you can't deal with 
harmonics then the conversion of pitch cannot be resolved except for sine 
waves. It's a can of worms. You have to get your worms straight before you 
start to consider your mapping system and then the sort of software you need. 
It's not a simple question of 1:1.

best

Simon


On 17 Sep 2012, at 16:12, dave miller wrote:

> hi simon
> I could think of a way of doing it using php, but depends what
> technology you're using
> dave
> 
> On 17 September 2012 14:52, Simon Mclennan  wrote:
>> Yo netbehavours,
>> Does anybody know any dinky software programmes that convert colour
>> to pitch - open source, shareware or otherwise.
>> I could figure out a way to do it analogue (I'm not a programmer),
>> using a ruler, some leaves and a tuning fork.
>> For the Festival of Brown in Brighton this week.
>> 
>> By the way let's not forget THEZONE experimental film nights - coming
>> up during CINECITY in November. Programme to follow.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Simon
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Re: [NetBehaviour] colour to sound

2012-09-17 Thread Simon Mclennan
I don't have much technology I'm afraid - I'll go the Cage route this  
time.
Many thanks for the thought though...

Best wishes,
Simon
On 17 Sep 2012, at 16:12, dave miller wrote:

> hi simon
> I could think of a way of doing it using php, but depends what
> technology you're using
> dave
>
> On 17 September 2012 14:52, Simon Mclennan  
>  wrote:
>> Yo netbehavours,
>> Does anybody know any dinky software programmes that convert colour
>> to pitch - open source, shareware or otherwise.
>> I could figure out a way to do it analogue (I'm not a programmer),
>> using a ruler, some leaves and a tuning fork.
>> For the Festival of Brown in Brighton this week.
>>
>> By the way let's not forget THEZONE experimental film nights - coming
>> up during CINECITY in November. Programme to follow.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Simon
>>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] colour to sound

2012-09-17 Thread Simon Mclennan
Hey thanks Michael,
Looking at these I realise that it might be more fun to invent my own  
method with elastic bands etc.
I think a fluxus approach via the surrealists might be more up my  
street.
There is something about the term data that makes me want to go and  
splatter my ink pen all overr and swing on a lamp post while shouting  
something unintelligible about zen archery and croquet - zoquet?
Thanks very much however for the links - I will check them when I  
have a mo.
Best wishes,
Simon
On 17 Sep 2012, at 15:17, Michael Szpakowski wrote:

>
>
> Looks as though these do *more* than you want -"convert"  (*map*  
> would be a better word)  whole images to sound - (so, not just a  
> colour parameter but position &c too):
>
> http://rekkerd.org/virtual-ans-image-to-sound-converter/
>
> http://www.nicolasfournel.com/audiopaint.htm
>
> Here're  two discussions, one for processing and one for pure data:
>
> http://processing.org/discourse/beta/num_1200346739.html
>
> http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-5911-convert-colour-sound
>
> if it was me, I'd follow the Processing lead...
>
> cheers
> michael
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Simon Mclennan 
> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity  
> 
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:52 PM
> Subject: [NetBehaviour] colour to sound
>
> Yo netbehavours,
> Does anybody know any dinky software programmes that convert colour
> to pitch - open source, shareware or otherwise.
> I could figure out a way to do it analogue (I'm not a programmer),
> using a ruler, some leaves and a tuning fork.
> For the Festival of Brown in Brighton this week.
>
> By the way let's not forget THEZONE experimental film nights - coming
> up during CINECITY in November. Programme to follow.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Simon
>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] colour to sound

2012-09-17 Thread dave miller
hi simon
I could think of a way of doing it using php, but depends what
technology you're using
dave

On 17 September 2012 14:52, Simon Mclennan  wrote:
> Yo netbehavours,
> Does anybody know any dinky software programmes that convert colour
> to pitch - open source, shareware or otherwise.
> I could figure out a way to do it analogue (I'm not a programmer),
> using a ruler, some leaves and a tuning fork.
> For the Festival of Brown in Brighton this week.
>
> By the way let's not forget THEZONE experimental film nights - coming
> up during CINECITY in November. Programme to follow.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Simon
>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] colour to sound

2012-09-17 Thread Michael Szpakowski


Looks as though these do *more* than you want -"convert"  (*map* would be a 
better word)  whole images to sound - (so, not just a colour parameter but 
position &c too):

http://rekkerd.org/virtual-ans-image-to-sound-converter/

http://www.nicolasfournel.com/audiopaint.htm

Here're  two discussions, one for processing and one for pure data:

http://processing.org/discourse/beta/num_1200346739.html

http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-5911-convert-colour-sound

if it was me, I'd follow the Processing lead...

cheers
michael





From: Simon Mclennan 
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:52 PM
Subject: [NetBehaviour] colour to sound

Yo netbehavours,
Does anybody know any dinky software programmes that convert colour  
to pitch - open source, shareware or otherwise.
I could figure out a way to do it analogue (I'm not a programmer),  
using a ruler, some leaves and a tuning fork.
For the Festival of Brown in Brighton this week.

By the way let's not forget THEZONE experimental film nights - coming  
up during CINECITY in November. Programme to follow.

Best wishes,

Simon

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[NetBehaviour] colour to sound

2012-09-17 Thread Simon Mclennan
Yo netbehavours,
Does anybody know any dinky software programmes that convert colour  
to pitch - open source, shareware or otherwise.
I could figure out a way to do it analogue (I'm not a programmer),  
using a ruler, some leaves and a tuning fork.
For the Festival of Brown in Brighton this week.

By the way let's not forget THEZONE experimental film nights - coming  
up during CINECITY in November. Programme to follow.

Best wishes,

Simon

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